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Wrest the Mind, Twist the Ether and Cryo Bot.

6 posts · 746 views · started 2013-08-30 17:58 UTC
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phantaskippy
2013-08-30 17:58 UTC
#1

Cryo Bot says that whenever he takes damage, he deals each non-hero Target 1 damage.

We know that returning damage effects (like Flame Barrier) can interrupt the effect of deal all ___ damage and potentially end the chain if it is destroyed.

So if you Wrest the Mind on Cryo Bot, and he gets hit for 1 damage, he would deal all non-hero targets 1 damage.

Use wrest the mind to redirect the last instance of damage to Cryo Bot.  See where I am going with this?

You just have to change the damage type to non-cold and make sure it deals at leasst one damage to Cryo.

Cryo triggers and interrupts the follow-thru on Wrest the Mind to deal all non-hero targets one damage.

Just repeat until he is at one health, then let him deal damage to all the targets, wrest the mind will then kill him and deal no damage to Visionary.

If you have a +1 damage on Cryo (other than TtE) you can deal three damage to all but one Non-hero target, then deal one non-cold damage to Cryo to set him off again.

That's an easy 18 damage to all but one non-hero target.

If you want you can then use Mental Divergence (twice) and Robot Reclamation to set it up again.

If you can raise damage by 2 and get a -1 damage taken on Cryo you can up that to 24 to each target.  Worth the effort to set up.

Is there anything wrong with this?

All three cards use the text whenever damage, so I imagine this would work.

FO
Foote
2013-08-30 18:04 UTC
#2

I am going to have to sit down and think that one through a bit when I get home hahaha. Brain melter there.

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Matchstickman
2013-08-30 18:05 UTC
#3

After a cursory glance the only thing I see wrong with it is not suggesting doing it while Fixed Point is out to do infinite damage to all non-hero targets.

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phantaskippy
2013-08-30 18:53 UTC
#4

Wow, that would be broken, but then when you finished you'd have to deal all the damage to Vis, so she'd be dead (outside of cocoon) when the point went away.

 

But really something this broken can't be allowed.

AW
awp832
2013-08-30 19:26 UTC
#5

I don't think you can get out of Visionary taking damage via Wrest the Mind by having the damage from WtM kill off WtM's target first.   Am I wrong here?   If I'm correct then yes, you could do this, but it would almost certainly kill visionary in the process.

 

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Pydro
2013-08-30 19:31 UTC
#6

This was in the debated ruling thread. If the target dies from the damage from WtM, Visionary takes no damage.

#5 https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/answers-to-debated-questions-3871