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Team Leader Tachyon

32 posts · 4746 views · started 2013-03-25 15:54 UTC
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Drakossozh
2013-03-25 15:54 UTC
#1

Is it just me, or is TL Tachyon just crazy? Allowing all her teammates to draw a card every turn (more or less)....crazy. I just played a game with TL Tachyon, Bunker, and Haka, and we absolutely wiped the floor with Dawn; she never even got the chance to flip. Set up was crazy fast, as was charging up the Omni and Haka of Battle. Of course, TL wasn't all there offensively, but the support she provided more than made up for it.

Now of course, the team I had was heavily dependent on card draw, etc, but drawing more cards would benefit ANY hero.

Again, Team Leader Tachyon is just crazy.

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Spiff
2013-03-25 16:49 UTC
#2

She's my wife's new favorite.  We hardly ever play a game where she's not in it, handing out cards like candy.  Is nice.

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Reckless
2013-03-25 20:34 UTC
#3

She sacrifices her own ability to mill Burst cards in her own deck to support the team, much like how Legacy Galvanizes everyone else and sacrifices his chance to use a damage dealing power.  It's quite beautiful on a thematic level.

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zelink551
2013-03-25 20:49 UTC
#4

It does however make TLT great for cards/villains/environments which force one hero to discard a bunch of cards.

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Tegulus
2013-03-26 01:03 UTC
#5

My wife has played her in every game since the expansion. Granted, we haven't played too many games recently, what with chasing the baby around and all. 

Still, TLT makes having the right card almost guaranteed after a couple of rounds. It does make discarding your entire hand more annoying…until TLT gives you more cards. Sometimes I go to play with our daughter while my wife takes her turns and I come back with a bunch of new cards in my hand. :slight_smile:

i love how she plays differently with the promo card. It really makes a difference for many characters. 

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Nielzabub
2013-03-26 01:07 UTC
#6

I personally find it easier to unload the Lightspeed Barrages with TLT than the original. The innate extra draw allows you to get your Pushing the Limits, HUD goggles, and Research Grant a lot faster.

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Drakossozh
2013-03-26 14:15 UTC
#7

Reckless, I hadn't noticed that. Seems like team leaders have a common shtick, sacrificng your own plays for the good of the team :D

Tegulus, I totally agree. Normally, I'd be concentrating on dumping bursts, preparing for a triple Lightspeed Barrage to end the game, all the while plinking damage and trying to keep everyone safe with Hypersonic. But with TLT, I end up not, er, saving up bursts in the trash anymore. She really becomes almost a *pure* supporter. Same goes for Legacy and YL: Legacy is primarily a support character, but YL turns him into a damage-dealer. Amazing how just changing one card (though of course, its the main one) can change the play style of certain heroes :))

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BlueHairedMeerkat
2013-03-26 18:50 UTC
#8

And who's the only other character we know who leads a superhero team?

The Argent Adept :smiley:

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zelink551
2013-03-26 19:12 UTC
#9

I thought the AA sacrificed helping the rest of the team to start singing and banging on instruments?

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Benhimself
2013-03-27 01:28 UTC
#10

I find her a little crazy too, yeah. I mean, everyone effectively drawing two cards a turn and usually playing only one means everyone ends up with HUGE hands. Some character like Haka or Nightmist or such have reliable and repeatable ways to discard cards for extra effect, but a lot of the others I've played in games with Team Leader Tachyon will end up with ludicrously sized hands in only a few rounds barring environment or villain forced-discarding.

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flamethrower49
2013-03-27 03:18 UTC
#11

Shoot, even INCLUDING villain or environment forced discarding.  I've found my heroes miles more willing to discard their hand for Toxic Seaweed or Crushing Hallway if Team Leader Tachyon is in the game.  They'll have more options soon.  It's refreshing.

Yeah, she's really good, perhaps too good, but unlike some broken situations, I don't find I mind playing with her.  Go figure.  I expect her to make a huge impact in the statistics.

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Drakossozh
2013-03-27 05:06 UTC
#12

So... I just played another game with the same team, Haka, Bunker, and TLT. I was able to get Omni and Haka of Battle in my opening hands, so I just spent the rest of the fight charging both of them up. Again, TLT helped a whole load. Long story short, I was able to blast Voss to kingdom come in one round, more or less. Dayummmmmmm

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Melonball
2013-03-29 16:06 UTC
#13

TLT against advanced apostate didn't go so well for me last night...until the tomb is destroyed, you really cant use your power unless you want to walk into 4 villain cards.  ugh.

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Drakossozh
2013-03-30 03:45 UTC
#14

Melonball, that...is true. Ugh. Advanced Apostate is beast. I hate that tome.

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Katsue
2013-03-30 09:40 UTC
#15

I actually think starting with the Tome usually makes Advanced Apostate easier than having the Tome inevitably come out mid game along with the Runes of Malediction and the Orb of Delirium.

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flamethrower49
2013-03-30 15:55 UTC
#16

I've never thought about it like that.  Here I am, cavalierly killing Advanced Apostate, and you're very possibly right.  The Tome thrives with those other relics, and it's far more likely to happen with a mid-game Profane Summons.  Furthermore, it's also supposed to bring Condemnation back, something I've never seen it do in an Advanced game, since it's dead long before Condemnation dies.  In a basic game, though, it could.

I'll have to try "Basic" Apostate.

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Drakossozh
2013-03-31 03:49 UTC
#17

So... you're saying that in some ways, Advanced is easier than Basic Apostate? Hmmm... I think I'll have to play them both soon...

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smafdi
2013-04-01 16:38 UTC
#18

It may be that way, from what I've seen advanced chairman is easier than basic due to him flipping much earlier. At least in our experiences that is.

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Katsue
2013-04-01 22:23 UTC
#19

To be honest, I don't like bringing forward the moment the Chairman flips and gives the Hired Gun a +4 damage buff.

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lynkfox
2013-04-02 01:16 UTC
#20

On Topic:

TL Tach has 169 games (most of allt he promo heroes cards, though less than any standard hero card) and an 85% win rate, easily topping the spread (excluding Greatest Legacy which only has 20something games)

 

Yes. She is /powerful/ for winning the game by boosting her teammates. Card Draw=Superior

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Zalrus9
2013-04-02 02:44 UTC
#21

That makes sense! She, much like the Legacies, is a force multiplier. Since a lot of heroes have really cool combos, Team Leader Tachyion allows that to happen on a massive scale. Then, once those engines are out, then she can start dealing damage. 

 

Also, I kind of like that promo art better…

SHE SUPPORTS THE OCULUS RIFT!!!

 

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ketigid
2013-04-02 03:33 UTC
#22

She needs a nerf. "Each player other than you draws a card."

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Spiff
2013-04-02 04:03 UTC
#23

Ketig, do you play with that house rule?

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Belteshazzar
2013-04-02 04:23 UTC
#24

In our house, the joke is that playing with Legacy (any form) is cheating at Sentinels. "Oh, the randomizer brought up Girl Power Legacy? I guess we'll use her, if we feel like cheating." Maybe we should add TLT to the list :-p

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Drakossozh
2013-04-02 07:15 UTC
#25

The fun part is, even if playing them feels a bit like *cheating* you (that is to say, I) still feel so darn heroic that I let it slide.

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ketigid
2013-04-02 07:18 UTC
#26

Sadly, not yet, I have not played Tachyon since receiving the 3 shiny new heroes. :smiley:

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celette482
2013-04-02 12:46 UTC
#27

Oh, I played as grandpa legacy last night with my bf and I felt so useful. On the one hand, it kinda feels like cheating. On the other hand, he doesn't have as many cool things. He makes other people cool. (and yeah, sure AA is also all about the support, but when you've got a good set up, he's just chaining performs and accompanies and things are happening all over the place). So, you get the benefit to all the other characters (and their players) by making them feel awesome, but you lose out on your own awesomeness because you focus on helping others and being all inspiringly present.

BUT that is sooooooo within in the theme of the game, that i appreciate it on a meta-textual level. Legacy COULD spend his time dive-bombing things, but he's got 2-4 other people with him and, gosh darn it, they're heroic too. So he helps them instead. (and his player gets to take on his job and make everyone else look good)

So game-play wise, yes, he feels like cheating if you're just treating the game like a game. Experience-wise? He fits riiiight in. (Of course, we usually play more than one hero, and whoever gets legacy gets their next pick)

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Belteshazzar
2013-04-02 14:19 UTC
#28

Oh, don't get me wrong, we still play Legacy when he/she comes up. It's just hilarious when you get your first and and go, "Well shoot, all 4 of these are great plays," and you feel bad for not playing the three you left in your hand.

Then there was the time when Grandpappy Legacy, Eternal Haka, and Dark Visionary were taking on the Chairman, and we were taking quite the beating. Visionary went down, and Legacy and Haka both had around 5 HP left, when Legacy got a second Next Evolution out and could make himself immune to melee and projectile (most or all the damage they do) and regain a hit point each turn. The next turn Haka got Haka of Restoration, so we won handily after that. (And then Haka and Legacy proceeded to tease Visionary for getting incapacitated. 'Twas quite silly.)

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jchavez
2013-04-05 17:46 UTC
#29

I agree that she's a little overpowered. Another idea to tone her down a little bit: "You and another hero draw a card."

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j1hopki1
2013-04-06 02:10 UTC
#30

I like it.

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ketigid
2013-04-06 04:56 UTC
#31

I've just tried out TLT for the first time. I've got to say it's a very strong supporting power for the rest of the team. None of the team members were in any danger or running out of cards. Tachyon herself was another story. Because she was drawing so many cards, it enhanced her ability to find and play Push the Limits and HUD Goggles and Lightning Reflexes, which in turn consume her cards much faster than before. Tachyon finished the game with only 1 card in hand while the rest of the heroes had tons.

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Belteshazzar
2013-04-06 13:51 UTC
#32

And I bet her Lightspeed Barrages were hitting like trucks.