120 posts · 106264 views · started 2012-09-18 06:10 UTC
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Pydro
2012-09-18 06:10 UTC
#1
New additions, and new intro! This is where all of the disparate bits of strategy advice that myself and others have composed come to live.
I intend to publish a guide on every hero. We'll see if I'm up to the villains after that. Let me know if you see any issues, or if you'd like me to add anything, or if you have any general thoughts. If you have a bit of strategy you would like to see linked here, let me know, and I can add it.
Flamethrower's made it to the big time now. Grats. :)
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flamethrower49
2012-10-18 19:39 UTC
#6
Wraith has been added to the list.
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Viking_God
2012-10-19 12:33 UTC
#7
These guides are a great idea and you have done some excellent work writing them up. Looking forward to your futher instalments! I am interested to see your take on Fanatic and one of my sons cannot get enough of Bunker so he will be reading with interest any hints he can on how to play him best :)
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Flex_Apollo
2012-10-19 16:28 UTC
#8
Great guides all around! You not only explain what makes each hero tick in clear language, but you really seem to understand what makes each hero fun to play.
I second the request for a Fanatic guide next. I tend to play her quite a lot, but likely haven't found all the uses and combos that her varied deck has to offer.
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Hex_Enduction_Hour
2012-10-20 13:54 UTC
#9
Wonderful resource, Flamethrower49. Thanks for your effort, insight, and getting this stickied.
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flamethrower49
2012-10-27 17:07 UTC
#10
I added awp832's guides to my growing compendium. People that want a Fanatic guide are probably much better off listening to him than to me - she is an Avatar of Death in his hands. I'll still probably do a guide for her in my own way, so I can claim the complete set, but I still need to work on five more heroes in the meantime. You can benefit from his information today!
And as long as I was reposting his guides without permission, (he'll probably be okay with it...) I thought I would point people to his excellent Matriarch guide.
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flamethrower49
2012-11-02 22:40 UTC
#11
My guide to defeating villains has begun construction, starting with Spite.
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ketigid
2012-11-05 02:39 UTC
#12
Remember there was a thread where Christopher shared his strategy of Fanatic? Would be great to have that in this list as well.
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EvanDan55
2012-11-08 14:58 UTC
#13
This is awesome. I've actually been wanting to do something like this for a while, but in video format.
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flamethrower49
2012-11-18 21:04 UTC
#14
Expatriette has been added to the list. Happy hunting!
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flamethrower49
2012-11-26 23:00 UTC
#15
Citizen Dawn has been added to the list.
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lynkfox
2012-11-27 14:32 UTC
#16
hey flame, if you want to duplicate your guides on the wiki we're building, we can set up individual pages for each there? Don't know if you want to or not, might be more work than its worth :P
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flamethrower49
2012-11-30 01:52 UTC
#17
That comment, and the thread that led up to it, can be found here.
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flamethrower49
2012-12-01 00:35 UTC
#18
Bunker has been added to the list.
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lynkfox
2012-12-01 06:14 UTC
#19
Hey i noticed a link in your bunker post to kickstarter - given that those links may not be around as long as this sticky thread might (and Is that possibly a Baker only post too?) If you would like why dont you link to the wiki instead?
Your guides have been great so far. Made me rethink some Heroes that were hard to understand at first.
Is it possible to update your other guides to include the other Promo heroes too. Like for your older guides - Tempest, Vissionary, Tachyon,etc ( since I notice you were using the Bunker and AZ promos I assume you also have tried the others).
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flamethrower49
2012-12-01 06:47 UTC
#21
Visionary has already been updated to include Dark Visionary. I'm getting around to the others. All in good time. I have to update a bunch of nemesis information as well.
Edit: I'll see about linking to the Wiki. If people are interested in strategy guides, they're probably interested in the Wiki too. Kickstarters don't seem to vanish, and my others are linked to BoardGameGeek already - also a valuable resource for gamers. I should probably pick one and go with it.
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Koey
2012-12-01 16:47 UTC
#22
Flame thanks Did not notice that, since I last read Vissionary's guide last week.
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lynkfox
2012-12-01 18:58 UTC
#23
makes sense! Pick the best you you feel is right and go for it!
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NAL0781
2012-12-29 02:05 UTC
#24
FlameThrower,
Your guides are excellent, but as a beginner in the interest of fairness, I need to wait until you post the guides to the missing heroes Mister Fixer, Argent Adept, Unity, and Fanatic (the hero that whose story I like the most (have yet to play the game, researched it, should be getting a set of all in about a week)).
From behind the curtiain...: Never mind that guy above, you do a teriffic job, and as a lurker on the boards for a bit, I can thank you for all of your contributions.
-NAL
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flamethrower49
2012-12-29 09:44 UTC
#25
Slowly but surely, man. Slowly but surely. Though for Fanatic, awp's advice is the way to go.
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NAL0781
2012-12-29 20:11 UTC
#26
No worries man, I'll have to check out awp's guide. For some reason I missed it before. Thanks again for all your contributions.
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flamethrower49
2013-01-13 21:24 UTC
#27
Argent Adept hadn't been added to this list. He is now.
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flamethrower49
2013-01-15 22:03 UTC
#28
Chairman is up now. Thanks for 3000 views, everybody!
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SunnyvaleTrash
2013-01-24 13:51 UTC
#29
These are great. Thanks!
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flamethrower49
2013-02-09 08:40 UTC
#30
The links to Wraith, Expatriette, Citizen Dawn, and Spite were kinda broken. I blame nemesis tomfoolery. Next up, updating more of the heroes for their new incarnations.
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Koey
2013-02-18 22:35 UTC
#31
Flame great guides. Especially helpful at learning tricks and tips about Heroes I do not know before.
Seeing as there is constant talk about Mr. Fixer would it be possible for you to have that as your next one. I for one am still trying to figure out how to use his cards properly. Like only recently learning how he could be effective against Plague Rat's infection.
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Ameena
2013-02-19 00:34 UTC
#32
He's good against Apostate too, using Alternating Tiger Claw to rip through any soak on the relics (lol Runes of Malediction :D). And being able to one-shot some stuff with a Tyre Iron and a few damage buffs - good agsint Citizens and Voss's Minions :).
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flamethrower49
2013-03-02 23:54 UTC
#33
Unity has been added to the list.
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Shatner
2013-04-02 16:48 UTC
#34
@Flamethrower49 I really enjoy your guides and have found them quite handy, both for my own use and for pointing fellow players towards when they tried a hero that didn't really "click" for them. For the fans at home, can you say what guide(s) you have in the pipeline? There's all the new Shattered Timeline content, and with the Mister Fixer debates, a guide on him has been hotly anticipated...
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flamethrower49
2013-04-02 17:02 UTC
#35
Well, I'm done with my graduate school application, so I can finally think about other things. My drive to complete the series, if evolving strategy can ever truly be completed, is strong. I do have a couple of guides in the works. I don't like talking about what's next, though, as it kinda changes according to my whims. There's only five heroes to do, though, so it'll be one of them!
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Drakossozh
2013-04-03 03:36 UTC
#36
Flamethrower, I have a question. Would you be, ah, amenable to other people *cough*me*cough* er, submitting guides they've written? D:
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Chaosmancer
2013-04-03 03:56 UTC
#37
I shouldn't speak for him, but we do have guides by awp832 linked above, so he'll probably say yes
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flamethrower49
2013-04-03 05:28 UTC
#38
Post away! I'll add them to the list.
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Drakossozh
2013-04-03 16:36 UTC
#39
Ah, by post away you mean... post it here? Or should I send it over to you via PM or something? My exams just finished, so I actually do have some time on my hands to get around writing.
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flamethrower49
2013-04-03 16:48 UTC
#40
Post it on the Gameplay forum, and I'll add it to this list. (And probably change the name of the list…)
As much as I might like to, one simply can't have a monopoly on strategy advice. The more the merrier, here!
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zelink551
2013-04-04 01:44 UTC
#41
Insert Boromir Meme?
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flamethrower49
2013-04-09 17:11 UTC
#42
Two Mr. Fixer guides are now linked, one by Drakossozh, and one by me.
I'm looking into changing the name of this post. Does anybody know if changing the name would make the page impossible to find for the numerous people that have been linked to this topic on this site or others?
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Chaosmancer
2013-04-09 18:43 UTC
#43
I think it would mess up the bookmarks people have created, since the link they would be trying no longer exists, but they'd be able to find it since it would still be stickied
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arenson9
2013-04-17 16:26 UTC
#44
Don't know. If you test it out, perhaps on a new/test topic, please let us know.
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Spiff
2013-04-17 18:05 UTC
#45
I could make a page on my site that links to Flamethrower's guides, if we think that would be helpful. That way people could link to it and if the underlying links change, it wouldn't affect things. Let me know if I should do that.
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lynkfox
2013-04-17 18:39 UTC
#46
I also have each individual guide linked on the Wiki under each hero - can make a general all of the guides page too
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flamethrower49
2013-04-29 17:13 UTC
#47
I added ewokalypse's guide to the Scholar and Kharnel's analysis of the advanced modes.
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Hilgendwarf
2013-05-16 16:44 UTC
#48
Will you be adding guides for Chrono Ranger and Omnitron X in the future?
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flamethrower49
2013-05-17 22:32 UTC
#49
Yes!
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flamethrower49
2013-05-29 03:41 UTC
#50
Added burningneuron's guide to Chrono-Ranger.
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flamethrower49
2013-06-03 20:24 UTC
#51
Added Platinum Warlock's Omnitron-X guide. We now have how-tos for every hero!
Thanks to all those who are stepping up while I'm distracted and busy.
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waedens
2013-06-06 02:54 UTC
#52
Wait where is Fanatic?
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fba827
2013-06-06 05:18 UTC
#53
It's linked in the first post – it's just done by a different person than the group at the top, which is why you have to scroll down a bit to see it.
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Phantom5613
2013-06-11 02:51 UTC
#54
I'm loving these guides, but I have one question: Any chance we can get an How-to-defeat Akash-Bhuta guide?
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Foote
2013-06-11 02:55 UTC
#55
Don't play in the wasteland. Or any environment with a lot of targets.
And you win.
Guides by Foote.
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Nielzabub
2013-06-11 03:15 UTC
#56
You can win in those environments. It will probably just involve using End of Days a couple of times.
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Spiff
2013-06-11 05:46 UTC
#57
He's just saying that if you play in an environment without lots of targets, AB is easy to beat. I concur. We always specifically choose target-rich environments to make her more challenging.
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Phantom5613
2013-06-11 06:36 UTC
#58
I ask because each and every time I've fought her, I've lost. She's now the enemy we avoid, even more so than the Matriarch or Chairman.
What areas make her easier? I guess Pike Industrial works, but that's all I can think of for low-target enviroments.
Also what's the best team-ups to go against her? Strategies? Stuff like that.
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Nielzabub
2013-06-11 06:44 UTC
#59
She's not too strong in Megalopolis, andthe Realm of Discord doesn't have too many targets. Atlantis only has the Krakens and the Mystical Defenses. I don't think she'd be too hard in the Time Vortex, but I haven't done that combination a lot.
Fanatic is a good choice against her because End of Days can wipe out all of her limbs and do serious damage if you're overrun. Haka can also be great because Savage Mana lets you destroy limbs twice, effectively doubling your damage against her. Characters like Nightmist and Tempest can also be very good since they have very effective attacks that hit multiple targets.
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ketigid
2013-06-11 10:19 UTC
#60
Can't find the thread where I read it but cards under Savage Mana has no text and will not trigger on destroyed the second time.
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Nielzabub
2013-06-11 11:16 UTC
#61
You are correct on the cards not doing damage a second time because the card text is blank, but the card type remains, and so you can still do things like have Bunker draw twice from Ammo Drop. Savage Mana is still good against Akash though, you can get some limbs temporarily out of the way, and so some decent damage with them.
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Drakossozh
2013-06-11 11:52 UTC
#62
Akash'bhuta can be easy to destroy: all you have to do is focus on her limbs. She basically ends up killing herself. Choose high-damage characters like Ra, Haka, Tempest, etc. The MVP against Akash is, as has been mentioned, Fanatic. End of Days just kills her. In the case of Haka, Rampage works wonders, expecially when used in conjunction with Savage Mana. Just resign yourself to a long hard slog; don't fix for one big shot. You gotta plink >___< At least, until you End of Days her away.
Hmm. I've also often found Nightmist to be very useful against her. Oblivion!
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Spiff
2013-06-11 14:22 UTC
#63
This is not a topic to discuss general AB strategies, it's for discussing Flamethrower's guides. If we want to continue discussing AB strategy, we should probably take it to its own topic so this one doesn't get too gummed up.
(I shouldn't have tossed in my comment about AB strategy either ;)
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Phantom5613
2013-06-12 07:16 UTC
#64
Well, a guide for her should be written up then...
Not so subtle hint.
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flamethrower49
2013-07-19 17:31 UTC
#65
Pydro's amazingly in-depth Bunker guide has finally been added to the first post. Amazing work, good sir.
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flamethrower49
2013-07-19 18:01 UTC
#66
I'm not looking forward to revising my guides to account for ruling 15. :) Nonetheless, it will happen.
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Drakossozh
2013-10-05 17:00 UTC
#67
A question. Would there be space or interest in a new NightMist guide? See, I've been thinking about writing one since she's my favorite hero (thus far anyway), but since she's been around a long while, I'm worried that writing one would be...superfluous. Thoughts?
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Envisioner
2013-10-05 23:41 UTC
#68
Misty is my favorite as well at the moment; I haven't read the existing guides, and might not read yours either, but in general I think a hero as complex as her deserves a good bit of talking about. So put me down as one vote in favor, but of course you'll want to hear multiple opinions before you decide. Ultimately, it's your time and trouble that you'll be investing, so I'd say wait for an uproarious degree of approval before committing.
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Pydro
2013-10-06 01:29 UTC
#69
Don't be worried about the game being "too old." IR is being reprinted, so there will be a large influx of new NM players. As long as you have the time and are willing to write it, write it. Even if you know everything, pyutting the words down could make you a better NM player. I originally wrote the Bunker guide for myself. I wanted to see what his options really were. While I am still confused, just putting the words down did help me understand him a little better.
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Kingofsouls
2013-10-06 05:06 UTC
#70
I'm working on a guide for Baron balde (and his alternate form Mad Bomber Blade) I know Baron Blade is the easiest villain but Baron Blade can still pull victories out of his Hammerspace if your not careful.
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Envisioner
2013-10-06 05:21 UTC
#71
I might enjoy writing one of these guides (especially since doing the necessary research would give me an excuse to play more, without it being an entirely self-serving exercise). Who's a hero that you think deserves more attention than they've gotten in the existing guides? Preferably a hero who isn't in RC or IR, since I don't have those and can only play those heroes at my friend's house. (Those are admittedly the heroes most likely to need such guides for the reason Pydro mentions, but perhaps The Scholar would work since he's also not in the EE?)
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Drakossozh
2013-10-06 06:50 UTC
#72
King of Souls, I think a BB guide would be a perfect addition to our growing collection of guides. Baron Blade is often the entry point villain of most, if not all, people, so a guide on how to beat him would really come in handy.
Also, I have lost against old BB more times than I would care to admit, so yeah, a guide would be great :D
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Envisioner
2013-10-06 07:41 UTC
#73
I still think that at least Advanced BB is more dangerous than Advanced Omnitron (at least outside of environments that play villain cards...Rook City and Ruins of Atlantis are probably places Omnitron is dangerous even on regular, and I can't think of any like that for Blade).
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phantaskippy
2013-10-06 14:26 UTC
#74
I still have never lost to Blade. He has all those great cards, but it never seems to avail him when I am involved in a game, even when I just run the villain deck and boost him up to ridiculous toughness. Curse you Freedom 5!
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Ameena
2013-10-07 01:31 UTC
#75
Blade has beaten us what feels like an embarrassing numebr of times lately - he even achieved Moonfall against us once. The main bane of our existence? Devious Disruption. And one time he managed to play it three times (due to trash-into-deck shuffle on flipping)! Bah :P.
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logan_mann
2013-12-15 16:43 UTC
#76
I have seen requests for this sort of thing over on BGG. I know you've linked these there in a thread before. Any chance of finishing the series? These are THE BEST How Tos I've ever seen. I've directed several people to the BGG page about these.
Awesome work Flamethrower.
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Powerhound_2000
2014-03-15 00:14 UTC
#77
Has anyone put together strategies for the new vengeance heroes?
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PlatinumWarlock
2014-03-15 01:45 UTC
#78
There's a great Setback guide that's just been posted on the SotM wiki.
I'm debating writing one on KNYFE and possibly The Sentinels or Parse after that, but I'd like to get some more games with all of them under my belt before I feel qualified in writing a guide.
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Edwin
2014-03-16 03:12 UTC
#79
I'm just about to start work on a Naturalist guide, though I expect it will require improvement since I've never written such a thing before, and have played Natch only twice (plus seen him played in a third game), one of those being a solitaire game (which I lost). I'm quite surprised that some of the Kickstarter backers, who've had Vengeance for like two months, haven't done this already. But since a void exists, I figure I might as well take my best stab at digital immortality. And it's convenient that my favorite of the five new hero decks is also, apparently, the one that neither Donner nor PW has any plans regarding.
Is it possible (seeing as Flamethrower has gone dark for over 10 months) that one of the Moderators could move these to the first post on this thread? Flamethrower offered to do it himself back in the day, as you can read there, so I don't think it would go against the Thread's initial intentions.
I have to admit that less than a week after people start receiving WotC, I'm surprised we're already getting guides about the WotC heroes. Doesn't seem like enough time has passed for non-playtesters to get enough experience with the characters to actually be able to tell others how best to play them. Must be a lot of Captain Cosmic games going on out there in the world. :)
Also, is Flamethrower's guide topic the place we announce other people's guides now, or should those be in their own topics?
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Ronway
2015-01-09 14:41 UTC
#89
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Spiff
2015-01-09 14:42 UTC
#90
That's the answer to my question then. :)
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Killswitch
2015-01-09 15:57 UTC
#91
Has there been one for Scholar yet? If not, I'd like to try my hand at it. I didn't see a Flamethrower guide, but wasn't sure if there was one I missed.
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Foote
2015-01-09 16:35 UTC
#92
I wrote a Scholar guide, but it was never added to this thread. I've seen one or two though. Gotta search for them.
Can't wait for a propper guide to Guise and Sky-Scrapper :)
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Greywind
2015-01-17 04:01 UTC
#94
What's wrong with the improper guides we have now?
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Phantom5613
2015-01-20 07:05 UTC
#95
I haven't seen ANY guide for either of those two yet on this forum. I might be nearsighted, but I don't think I'm totally blind yet. But if I'm wrong, then feel free to point me in the right direction to those guides
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arenson9
2015-01-20 17:23 UTC
#96
My guess is there is some confusion around the use of the word 'proper' in the phrase 'proper guide', as American and British meanings are not precisely the same.
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Arcanist_Lupus
2015-01-20 19:53 UTC
#97
I didn't realise that there was a difference. Can you explain it for me?
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kitmehsu
2015-01-20 21:24 UTC
#98
I think was was meant was proper as opposed to informal vs proper as opposed incomplete
Thanks for updating that Pydro. The only hero left is Void Guard Writhe. If anyone recalls a guide already made please post it as I didn’t find one. Optionally you could make your own guide too.
