Skipping your turn for multiple effects?

We played on Mars (well, we were in my living room, not really Mars, but you know what I mean…) and both “Meteor Storm” and “Self-Destruct Sequence” were in play at the same time. Both cards have a “at the start of their turn, a player may skip the rest of their turn to…” effect. In the case of “Meteor Swarm”, skipping your turn will destroy the card, and for “Self-Destruct Sequence”, skipping your turn puts a new environment card under it to extend the sequence. The question is, when a player skips their turn, do you get to apply the skip to both cards, or do you only get to apply it to one?

We played it where you had to choose which of the cards you were apply your skipped turn to. My reasoning was that the text on the card says the player can (paraphrasing here) skip their turn to have an effect. It doesn’t say “if you turn was skipped, this effect will happen”, it says that you may skip your turn to get the effect, which tells me that you have to specify which effect you’re going for when you choose to skip your turn.

Did I play it right, or do all “skip your turn” effects happen whenever you skip your turn?

Each effect is a different trigger.
If you were facing Spite and discarded (H)-2 cards would you save 1 Innocent Bystander or all of them in play?
What if 1 fowl card was destroyed? Is suffering 1 damage enough to satisfy both the Carrion Fields in play?

Are you saying destroying 1 Fowl card WOULD trigger both Carrion Fields, or that it WOULD NOT? (I think it would).

Agree about the skipping and choosing which card you’re effecting with the skip (not both at once), and I agree about Spite and his victims (have to discard for each sperate victim).

Whoops! That was probably a bad example as I was using suffering the damage (the effect of the trigger) and not the bird dying (the cost of the trigger) to illustrate my point. (And I agree that it would trigger once for each field)

Please ignore that second example!

Perhaps it would be clearer to say involuntary/automatic triggers can happen multiple times from different sources for a single action but triggers which require you to choose to pay a cost happen only if the cost is applied to that particular trigger. And in this particular question you can’t pay the cost (skip a turn) more than once per turn as you have only one turn to skip.

IGNORED, SIR !

Yes, that sums it up rather nicely. So Spiff you played it right. ;D

Side note: Played a game against Baron Blade today, and at one point he had 2 Personal Force Fields and 2 Backlash Fields out at once. VERY nasty.

Ouch, I lost my most recent game against Baron Blade because of Double Personal Force Field, Double Biometic Plasma Vats.

Actually, we’ve played this differently – that you could save both Innocent Bystanders with the same discarded cards. Though I see the logic of your argument that one would have to pick which Innoncent Bystander is saved, it’s not the only possible interpretation of the wording.

Would love to have a ruling on this.

I, too, play by arenson9’s way.

The precedence is Omnitron’s weapons, the ones where you need to deal 7 or more damage to destroy.

Those are involuntary/automatic triggers, not costs you chose to pay.

But we await official word from above

Was there ever a ruling on this?  I have been playing arenson9's way.  Thought I would check to make sure it was right.

I'm pretty sure there are more recent threads on this subject than two years ago!

If you can pay multiple costs with a single 'sacrifice' then you need discard only one card to keep all The Scholar's forms in play, does that sound like a reasonable expense to keep all his cards around?

Yep.

Anyways, according to the app you can’t skip your turn once to get rid of two Meteor Storms.

Any start of turn or end of turn effects will happen in order they entered play.

So any "Start of turn you may. . ." abilities will trigger one at a time, you would choose whether to discard/skip turn/destroy something/take damage etc. or not, then move to the next one.  If the same option came up twice, the second would not care what you had chosen and done before, it is a completely different instance of a choice.

Is this a thing? I've always just ante'd up and discarded four cards to keep two elementals…

I'm pretty sure it was meant as a reductio ad absurdum.

No, because that's a logical phallacy and not a real argument. His was a real argument. You can't just discard one card for multiple effects. I've asked Christopher about it (I don't remember which card it was about, but if it applies to one it applies to all of them. Probably The Scholar's forms during playtesting.) and he said so.

I thought as much. My online sarcasm detector must be broken.

Yep, that is what I was doing.

Sorry what? Why are you discarding 4 cards to keep 2 forms out?

Sorry, I was mis-remembering the card text. It would only be one card for each elemental. So 2 for 2, or 1 for 1.

I'm pretty sure there are more recent threads on this subject than two years ago!

Hey, with no search option on this board, you get what google gives ya.

Any start of turn or end of turn effects will happen in order they entered play. 

 

So any "Start of turn you may..." abilities will trigger one at a time, you would choose whether to discard/skip turn/destroy something/take damage etc. or not, then move to the next one.  If the same option came up twice, the second would not care what you had chose and done before, it is a completely different instance of a choice.

That explains it very well.  Thanks.

You mean apart from the one on the top right of the page?

Sure, the search function isn't the best (and Google is likely better in most cases) but it certainly exists.

Oh, that search option.  I tried it.  It says I have to enter key words or something like that.

I got in the habit of using google and forgot about it.

Each effect is its own thing and has to be paid for individually.

Discussed this with Christopher today and this is correct.