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Are multiple targets unique?

21 posts · 1639 views · started 2011-12-27 20:45 UTC
JO
johncraven
2011-12-27 20:45 UTC
#1

Consider Hoarfire which deals 2 targets some damage, and then deal AZ some damage:

  1. Can I choose the same target twice?
  2. Can I choose AZ as a target on top of the “himself” damage?

Is the fact that the card instructions are written in three sentences make a difference compared to say, Wraith’s Throwing Knives, where it says “3 targets 1 damage each?” (implying uniqueness)

PA
Paul
2011-12-27 21:29 UTC
#2

Absolute Zero deals 1 target 2 cold damage. Absolute Zero deals a second target 2 fire damage. Absolute Zero deals himself 1 cold damage and 1 fire damage.

When this card is played, Absolute Zero must deal damage to 2 different targets: one of them is dealt 2 cold, and the other 2 fire. Because the word “target” is not further restricted (e.g. Villain target, non-Hero target, etc), Absolute Zero is free to select himself as one of the two targets. Uniqueness is explicitly stated here when it says that AZ “deals a second target” the fire damage.

On Wraith’s Throwing Knives, the 3 targets must also be unique (because she must select 3 targets). A card allowing the selection of the same target twice would not specify a set number of targets, and would be worded something like this:

[quote=““Fake Card””]
Invincible Jones deals a target 2 lightning damage. Invincible jones deals a target 2 infernal damage.
[/quote]

TH
TheJayMann
2011-12-27 22:32 UTC
#3

So is he in the next expansion? or the one after that? heheheh

CH
Christopher
2011-12-28 00:51 UTC
#4

What makes you think Invincible Jones is a “he”?

TH
TheJayMann
2011-12-28 09:24 UTC
#5

I believe Invincible Jones to be a he due to both my informal grammer training and my Spanish language training which specify that unknown genders should be reguarded as masculine.

WR
WriterRyan
2011-12-28 14:41 UTC
#6

And I believe him to be a he due to the fact that I’m unable to mentally divorce the surname Jones from the given name Indiana.

CH
Christopher
2011-12-28 16:37 UTC
#7

Er, Ryan… you know my wife, right?

PA
Paul
2011-12-28 17:04 UTC
#8

Invincible Jones is female in her primary timeline.

WR
WriterRyan
2011-12-28 17:08 UTC
#9

Oh, right!

starts singing
Drivin’ that train! High on co-
takes an arrow to the knee

JO
johncraven
2011-12-28 17:17 UTC
#10

[quote=““Fake Card””]
Invincible Jones deals a target 2 lightning damage. Invincible jones deals a target 2 infernal damage.
[/quote]

AFAIK, the base game does not contain any such card, right?

TH
TheJayMann
2011-12-28 17:21 UTC
#11

AFAIK, the base game does not contain any such card, right?
[/quote]

Read where the quote comes from.

WR
WriterRyan
2011-12-28 17:45 UTC
#12

AFAIK, the base game does not contain any such card, right?
[/quote]

I don’t have it in front of me, but I think Voss might have that sorta thing on his reverse side. I think Baron Blade’s “Slash and Burn” may read like this, too.

TH
TheJayMann
2011-12-28 18:04 UTC
#13

Slash and Burn is lowest, then highest, mainly to prevent the same card targeted twice.

WR
WriterRyan
2011-12-28 18:37 UTC
#14

This is true. I just doublechecked the wording on Slash and Burn to make sure I wasn’t making things up, and if there were only one hero left, Baron Blade would damage the same hero twice with it.

TH
TheJayMann
2011-12-28 19:03 UTC
#15

Well, yeah… but if it did the lowest first, then the highest, there would be many more cases of the same hero hit twice.

JO
johncraven
2011-12-28 22:16 UTC
#16

Read where the quote comes from.
[/quote]

I meant such as in similar effect. I know the example mentioned is fake.

And I wanted to know about hero cards, not villain or environments. Voss can hit the same target twice if he’s alone.

CH
Christopher
2011-12-28 22:27 UTC
#17

At this point, there are no cards worded that way in the game. It seems unlikely that there will be, as that is a rather vague wording, and we don’t tend to like vague wordings.

KE
ketigid
2011-12-29 02:10 UTC
#18

[/quote]

Is this the first ever instance of Infernal damage? (yea… i know it is a fake card)

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Veet
2011-12-29 02:16 UTC
#19

OK now I want some concept art for Invincible Jones. ;D

CH
Christopher
2011-12-29 04:01 UTC
#20

Nope! Spite has infernal damage!

KE
ketigid
2011-12-29 08:12 UTC
#21

:o

Hooray! ;D