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Guise and the Sentinels?

15 posts · 545 views · started 2015-02-03 19:26 UTC
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Arcanist_Lupus
2015-02-03 19:26 UTC
#1

How does Guise's copying and stealing work with the Sentinels?

 

Specifically their signatures and Sentinel Tactics.  Are both the individual heroes' names and "the Sentinels" replaced by "Guise", or just one of those?

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Powerhound_2000
2015-02-03 19:32 UTC
#2

Those instances would all be replaced by Guise instead.   It would require some setup but he wouldn't often get much use out of Sentinel Tactics.  Edit:  Though with Blatant Reference out he would be able to use his base power each hero turn.  Hmm..... guess I have another Shenanigan to add. 

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Koga
2015-02-03 19:42 UTC
#3

Or any other power he was given, such as Cosmic Weapon. Combine with Barbarbarian for even more damage.

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Arcanist_Lupus
2015-02-03 20:36 UTC
#4

The other shenanigan is Caliginous Form + Human Shield.  Caliginous Form isn't as good as Total Beefcake, but it doesn't cost you an extra play like Total Beefcake does.

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Koga
2015-02-03 20:59 UTC
#5

Just thought about thist, if the card for Medico is out, Guise won't be dealing any damage, instead he'll be healing people.

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McBehrer
2015-02-03 21:42 UTC
#6

Here’s a good one: guise the barbarian, blatant reference, and I’m that guy, while the sentinels have Hippocratic oath. 3 healing every turn.

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phantaskippy
2015-02-03 23:18 UTC
#7

Beefcake and Caliginous form should stack.  (we won't find out for sure until a ruling is passed down)

If they do Guise can really rock the Sentinel's setup.

Also consider Sentinel Tactics.

The first time one of Guise deal damage each turn you may use a power.

Uh, yes please.

 

For Clarity:

The Sentinels

Idealist

Writhe

Mainstay

Dr. Medico

These are all names of heroes, all would changed to Guise.

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Foote
2015-02-03 23:29 UTC
#8

Wait, what? Their character cards wouldn't change at all. Not sure if thats what you meant.

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phantaskippy
2015-02-03 23:43 UTC
#9

No, I mean on an ongoing card.  If an ongoing card says "when The Sentinels" and Guise uses "Uh Yeah, I'm that guy" on the Sentinels, the text copied to "Uh, Yeah" would change "The Sentinels" to "Guise."

 

 

And for Hippocratic, why not go ahead and borrow a Jackhandle before attacking. . .

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Foote
2015-02-03 23:56 UTC
#10

This goes without saying. But I like the way you think!

KI
kitmehsu
2015-02-04 00:21 UTC
#11

but wouldn't guise heal all non-hero targets if he stole the jackhandle while copying hipocratic oath? 

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Arcanist_Lupus
2015-02-04 00:32 UTC
#12

Nope!

 

 

The real question is what would happen if you stole Jack Handle, and then copied say… Tempest's base power?

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eugeneruss
2015-02-04 00:49 UTC
#13

And even if that didn't blow up the world, how about copying grenade launcher? 3 distinct hits.

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phantaskippy
2015-02-04 01:22 UTC
#14

Jackhandle + Squall:

 

You would deal damage to all non-hero targets (Squall), so you choose the first target to be hit, and turn that damage into all target damage.

Then you pick the second target for Squall to hit, and turn that into all non-hero target damage.

Then you pick the third target for Squall to hit. . .

and so on until Squall runs out of targets to aim at.

I actually mark which ones I've aimed at in these cases.

The first time I ran across it was with Writhe's attacka  target, that target attacks all non-hero targets. (Writhe Attacks Fixer, who goes crazy)

 

Similarly Jack Handle you would pick a target for Squall, then Crowbar would hit a second, repeat the same way.

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McBehrer
2015-02-04 06:18 UTC
#15

And, because of hippocratic oath, all of that turns into healing...

OOOOOHHHH MAN.