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Setback and redirection.

6 posts · 253 views · started 2015-01-09 23:47 UTC
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phantaskippy
2015-01-09 23:47 UTC
#1

An event came up that hadn't for a while, and with recent discussions I looked at it in a new light.

Cause and Effect + Wrong Place and Time.

Setback has a ton of unlucky, and no bonus damage.  So he deals the damage to the 1 target, then when he deals it to himself he discards all his tokens to redirect it.

Is he redirecting 0 damage now?

He is, because X would recheck for the new target and find that the amount being dealt is 0.  Right?

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Arcanist_Lupus
2015-01-09 23:52 UTC
#2

I want that to work, that you could use this combo do deal lots of damage to the villians, but I think that you are correct and that it would deal no damage.  

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Happy_Thoughts
2015-01-10 00:37 UTC
#3

I haven't played Setback much--I think just once. But I'm not following how you're getting 0 damage redirected.

Cause and Effect does X damage to both the target and Setback. Assuming it's the first time this turn a hero target would be dealt damage, Wrong Time and Place activates. If Setback spends the tokens to redirect that damage to a villain target, how does it get reduced to 0 damage redirected?

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Matchstickman
2015-01-10 00:42 UTC
#4

Because it's now 0 tokens in his pool.

I have to say I have no evidence but as things do recheck when they deal damage I beleive that it would that it would be 0 damage.

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phantaskippy
2015-01-10 01:30 UTC
#5

Damage rechecks itself when redirection changes targets.

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BlueHairedMeerkat
2015-01-10 13:28 UTC
#6

And we have plenty of precedent for attacks that deal X damage to multiple targets changing that X mid-attack. Sounds legit to me.