Does a redirect change the target?

I’m a little embarrassed that I’m don’t know this one exactly, but here we go.

When a redirect changes the recipient of damage, is the recipient of the damage then the target? This would matter – significantly – for those powers that damage multiple targets. For example, if Wraith is using throwing knives against a flipped Adv. Iron Legacy, and “The first time Iron Legacy would be dealt damage each turn, redirect that damage to the hero target with the highest HP” happens, could he be hit by the second instance of damage from the power?

I’ve taken it to be the case that you can, on the same general principles as “Taiaha killing the zombie created by the cultist killed by Taiaha” and "Damage dealt equals hit points reduced". The "damage dealt" clarification doesn't directly apply, but points to thinking along the lines of "the results drive the narrative" and the redirect changes the target just as the damage resistance decreased the damage dealt. The "Taiaha targeting" clarification derives from the non-instantaneousness of the game.

From those two lines of thinking, the second knife can hit Iron Legacy, at the cost of first hitting a team mate. How far off base is the thinking?

In order for Iron Legacy to be able to redirect, he has to take at least 1 point of damage.

My theory on target selection is that whenever you're finished dealing with the first target, you could choose the next target based on what actually took damage. You couldn't, for instance choose Iron Legacy twice if you somehow redirected it with something like Mister Fixer's driving mantis. My thinking is that you would simply choose the new target based on what took damage already.

The target you tried hitting is what is important when you can deal "Up to X targets". This is why Kismet's Inconceivable Obstruction is such a pain, though greate for taking out those pesky Envirionment targets that may come out because of it!

I don't think so. Wraith's power allows her to choose three targets. Although the first attempt to deal damage was redirected to a differet target, Wraith still chose Iron Legacy as her first target.

I think the second target of Taiha can be the zombie simply because it's a different target than the cultists.

There is a difference between damage dealt and damage taken, just as there is a difference between the chosen target and the target that eventually takes damage.

If this is the case, could someone who was hit due to redirection still be targetted? I'm assuming it can be done, but making sure, as it would suck to have two targets no unable to be targetted after ONE attempt at a strike.

Generally not. You can only target each thing once with most attacks. My question was whether a redirect changes the target.

Wraith would lose an attack if there were only two available, reasonable targets.

My question was if one of those targets caused a redirect, would it be then eligible for the second attack. It's either that or you could hit the subject of a redirect with the second projectile. Either way it opens up possibilities, although it appears that the target doesn’t change, just the target hit. This interpretation opens up some Synaptic Interruption and Driving Mantis shenanigans.

Definitely.  One of the awesome things about Mr. Fixer is using Mantis to turn hit 2 targets into hit that one target twice.

Take Nightmist with a card that damages herself and a villain target, if she uses amulet to redirect the damage to herself to a villain, it still fills the requirement that she deals damage to herself, it doesn't count as the villain target part of the damage.

In the same way if Haka uses Taiaha and hits a villain and Mr. Fixer with wrench+Mantis, Fixer redirecting the damage can choose any target he wants, including the same one the other instance of Taiaha damage hit.  It would work the same whether Fixer or the Villain was hit first.

I once hit the same target twice with one Assault Rifle and One round of Liquid Nitrogen.

I once it the same target 3 times with Rampage and a punish the weak.

Was that target a hero?

I can't remember who it was these days, but sadly it was not a hero.

Hmmm, I always choose the targets at the time of activation, not each target one after the other, is that 'wrong'?

Si, because you can Taiaha a Cursed Acolyte to death, then kill his Zombie.

Ah yes, I had forgotten about things where things can into play due to things, I guess I don't do it that way at all!

My best was a 4-3 oblivion with Tachyon & Synaptic, Fixer with Wrench/Mantis, Nightmist with Amulet and Omnitron-X with Temporal Plating and Reactive Plating.

We held the oblivion for three rounds to get the cards all set up, but it was cool.

Another such situation is the End Of Days / Forced Deployment interaction.  If EOD first chose all its targets, then destroyed them, then at the end of it, Voss would have lots of minions in play.  In fact, what EOD does is more like

1. Destroy an eligible card

2. Are all eligible cards destroyed?

2a. No, return to step 1.

2b. Yes.  First sentence is therefore complete.

3. Destroy End Of Days.

Similarly, anything that damages multiple targets can be "unpacked" to be a set of single-target damages, each of which gets evaluated individually.  If that damage is based on a variable (e.g. Electro-Pulse Explosive, Drawn To The Flame (against Omnitron), etc.), then the amount being dealt can change between targets as the underlying variable changes.

Another example of multiple redirects to the same target is when Apostate has out his Orb and a bunch of other Relics - if you're using an attack that targets a bunch of stuff, you can target the Orb directly, but then also target the other relics and have that damage redirected to the Orb and thus hit it a bunch more times >:).