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64 posts · 2693 views · started 2015-02-07 17:17 UTC
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kitmehsu
2015-02-07 17:17 UTC
#1

while I love tactics, it has unfortunately fallen into the dangerous hole of not going over well with my game group (I put the blame on one of the players picking prolitariat twice and a mistake rulling on Aim and automisses from the Omnitron scenario) so I'm looking for other venues to play.  Do people play online and what mediums do they use for it?  I imagine using a site like roll20.net could be for the board.   I'm anxiously looking forward to playing it more.

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Silverleaf
2015-02-07 17:35 UTC
#2

I've been thinking that it would work on roll20. The only problem might be the map tiles.

But yeah, I'd definitely play it online.

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Donner
2015-02-07 17:40 UTC
#3

Mistakenly picking Proletariat?  Proletariat is awesome!  Just remember to clone often (start with Share the Burden and the other auto-clone one) and get rid of Share the Burden once you have 3 clones (swap for Overwhelm).  And keep one clone safe at all times.

 

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kitmehsu
2015-02-07 17:51 UTC
#4

Yes, but he is not a good pick for a first time play, since he lacked mobility and was stuck at melee range, leaving the player feeling like he couldn't do anything. 

 

I've thrown together some basic tiles, using color for elevation/cover the other day, I'll post them when I'm off work. 

 

EDIT:

A bit later than intended, but attached now is a quick screencap of Insula Primalis Tile set in super simple tiles.  The worst was getting them to line up on the grid, I'll admit.  I tried scanning, but it looked really bad.  The colored lines corispond to elevation, with thicker lines for boarders between tiles and different elevations. Black is height 1, Gold is Height 2, brown is height 3 and Grey is Height 4.  Filled tiles are either cover, with green, or lava, with red.  Also, the tiles are transparent, so they can be updated to have the actual tile scans/images placed beneith them.

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lynkfox
2015-02-10 23:15 UTC
#5

i wonder if this is something we could adapt into Tabletop Simulator (on Steam)

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Silverleaf
2015-02-10 23:50 UTC
#6

Probably, it looks ideal for this kind of thing. But that's less accessible, since it's kinda expensive. I can't really afford it anyway…

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Ronway
2015-02-11 00:09 UTC
#7

Sounds like we should totally get it setup for Tabletop Simulator! Yay, no Silverleaf!

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Silverleaf
2015-02-11 00:11 UTC
#8

:(

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phantaskippy
2015-02-11 01:48 UTC
#9

Libre los Pantalones!

 

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kitmehsu
2015-02-11 04:22 UTC
#10

So before a derailment occurs due to a lack of pants... again... here's a quick and dirty render of the tiles I just modeled tonight for future use in tabletop simulator, for those who have it.  http://youtu.be/kwa4flnpJQw  the texture is just the same as the tiles I made for roll20 thrown on for a guide and for simple looks.

I'm favoring roll20 right now though, as it's easier to work in 2d plus it's free to use.

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morph147
2015-02-11 17:05 UTC
#11

I rather have the guys at Handelabra make us an iPad app. That would be super fun. Especially since they probably can use the same engine for multiplayer as SotM.

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Silverleaf
2015-02-11 20:11 UTC
#12

That would be awesome, but it would be a while before they get to that. I'd like something to play in the meantime!

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Paul
2015-02-12 15:40 UTC
#13

Definitely feel free to tell Handelabra that they should make a Tactics app and that you all would pay for it. :)

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Silverleaf
2015-02-12 16:09 UTC
#14

Handelabra, you should make a Tactics app and we would all pay for it.

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phantaskippy
2015-02-12 16:18 UTC
#15

 

This!

Yes!

(Rook City first though)

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Donner
2015-02-12 16:28 UTC
#16

I would totally pay for a Tactics App!

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Krayden006
2015-02-12 16:28 UTC
#17

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Handelabra, you should make a Tactics app and we would all pay for it.

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morph147
2015-02-12 17:15 UTC
#18

If Handelabra made a Tactics app I would buy it day 1. Especially since I hope by that point they can use the same engine for multiplayer as SoTM (once its done) and we can do day one multiplayer

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MigrantP
2015-02-12 19:07 UTC
#19

We should make a Tactics app and you all should buy it.

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Rabit
2015-02-12 19:43 UTC
#20

Tease.

:wink:

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Lateralis
2015-02-12 19:50 UTC
#21

You know what would be awesome - if Handelabra made a tactics app, and you all paid for it.

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Krayden006
2015-02-12 20:04 UTC
#22

Deal.

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phantaskippy
2015-02-12 20:48 UTC
#23

I have some money.

 

What screen should I throw it at?

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McBehrer
2015-02-13 00:50 UTC
#24

I would totally do that.

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dshields
2015-02-13 05:38 UTC
#25

Put me Down for a Tactics Game, DLC Miniture Artwork Packs, Season Pass for DLC, DLC Uprisings, DLC Profit and Broken City. DLC Serneros (You caould make alot of these), DLC Music, DLC Turnament mode, DLC Multiplayer.

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phantaskippy
2015-02-13 17:57 UTC
#26

DLC Ronway's Pants

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Rabk
2015-02-13 19:25 UTC
#27

Ooohh, ooohh... I have an idea!

 

 

 

 

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How about if Handelabra made a Tactics app and we all bought it? Wouldn't that be cool? [I would definitely buy it.]

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Ronway
2015-02-13 19:58 UTC
#28

I'm all for Sentinel Tactics: The Video Game! Sounds like you folks will need to brush up on programming some AI.

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lutherbellhendricksv
2015-02-13 21:04 UTC
#29

 

Nah, me and Christopher will play the other side. Response times might be a little long though.

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Donner
2015-02-14 04:36 UTC
#30

They just need to learn to translate human thought patterns into AI and put you guys in that way.  May need to upgrade the iPads a bit first.

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Paptimus
2015-02-14 04:50 UTC
#31

I would totally pay for a Tactics app made by Handelabra. And by the way (derail alert!!), I'd pay double for a GSF app...

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Silverleaf
2015-02-14 05:09 UTC
#32

Christopher has human thought patterns?

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kitmehsu
2015-02-14 13:16 UTC
#33

Christopher is CON?

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Donner
2015-02-14 14:59 UTC
#34

They were right!  That provides both the connection to the Freedom V and Haka!  And it means Unity IS a part of CON.  Why did we never think of this before?

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Reckless
2015-02-15 08:30 UTC
#35

That would definitely be worth some looking into.  Most of my frustrations with GSF is the excessive amount of tokens, the long set-up time, cards (with tokens on them) moving around the board constantly, and how much crap you have to put on the board when the opposition (quite consistently) gains a lot more ships.

95% of my frustrations with the game would disappear if it was all handled by an app.

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kitmehsu
2015-02-17 23:50 UTC
#36

I too would love to have an offical app for Tactics, particularly with online, infact, I would be fine without AI as it would both expand my options for teammates and opponents and allow for more ease of play.

But until that day arrives, I have finished the inital work on a virtual table via roll20, as seen in my attachment.  Eventually I plan on making a kit that contains the images and intructions on how to set it up but before that, I need to run things through their paces and make sure that my ideas are not the fever fueled delerium.  My prototype playtest plans on using the same skirmish scenario from PAX south, and I need volunteers to play.  I run off Eastern time, but other than monday and saturday nights, am free most afternoons/evenings, and I can accept up to 6 players for the playtest (I will play if their is an odd number of players, but otherwise I will just supervise and run the games for the test)

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Rabk
2015-02-18 04:47 UTC
#37

I’m willing to help out - looks great so far!

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Silverleaf
2015-02-18 19:39 UTC
#38

I'll volunteer! This looks awesome!

I can totally run on US time(s).

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arenson9
2015-02-18 20:27 UTC
#39

Happy to play. Available this Thu (probably), Fri,  and possibly tonight

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Silverleaf
2015-02-18 20:49 UTC
#40

You guys will have to excuse me making stupid haven't-played-for-a-while mistakes... ;)

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kitmehsu
2015-02-18 23:15 UTC
#41

Okay, just sent links to my board to the test subjects volunteers.  I haven't added anything for the power cards since I'm a bit parinoid about this ending up as a complete replacement for actually owning the game.  Plus, that means a lot more scanning if I wanted to do that.  So it's just the board, tokens and dice rolling being handled in the page.

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godzilla999666
2015-02-23 23:06 UTC
#42

I would suggest Vassel as the place of choice. Several miniatures games have been adapted to this quite successfully as well as many board games. Plus it is free to use.

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kitmehsu
2015-03-02 20:41 UTC
#43

Okay, first off, I checked out Vassal, and even played around with it's module making tools.  Honestly, I find it a pain to work with, as it's one of those oddly assembled messes.  As a programer, I shudder anytime some drops the phrase "No programing required."  Other than making any work more shareable than what I'm attempting in roll20, their really isn't any feature there that, to me, make it worth losing the web-based client from roll20.

As for roll20, I've started adding a few character panels and cards, based upon the shared in Luther's behind the scenes thread on BBG, as my scanner is not the best.  When all is said and done, Unity, Ra, Legacy, Baron Blade, Bunker, and Absolute Zero will have built in cards/panels.

No testing has occured yet, and their is still openings.  If you already volunteered, I have sent you all links to the roll20 page via PM on the forum.

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arenson9
2015-03-10 14:50 UTC
#44

Any update? If I was sent a link via PM, I missed it.

 

Edit: Belay that. Found the link. Looks great. When are we playing?

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kitmehsu
2015-03-10 18:14 UTC
#45

okay, just got the last of the cards/panels uploaded today, as I've been a bit busy of late with getting my first physical prototype for my first board game.  But now I have a streach of four days off so I'm completely free.  You're also the first one to actually follow the link i've sent at this point, sothere is still plenty more room for people who want to join up to test this out.

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metlarcturus
2015-03-10 18:30 UTC
#46

Ooh, ooh! Pick me!

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kitmehsu
2015-03-10 19:05 UTC
#47

Link sent, wellcome to the group

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cmschex
2015-03-10 19:19 UTC
#48

I'll have an extended block of time next week starting Sunday and have some time in the evenings this week if you're willing to pm me the invite.  

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dshields
2015-03-10 19:48 UTC
#49

I would love to help, Lots of time free

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Medic-Tank
2015-03-10 19:55 UTC
#50

Sadly as much as I would like to participate my schedule would be quite a constraint

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kitmehsu
2015-03-10 20:28 UTC
#51

more links sent out.  Also, don't worry about it, this is manly just a few games to run this set up through it's paces before I start compiling a file kit for people to build their own.

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Silverleaf
2015-03-10 21:15 UTC
#52

Ooh, I forgot about this. Will check out the link when I get to the PC.

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Donner
2015-03-10 22:38 UTC
#53

I am interested but won't be home this week.

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kitmehsu
2015-03-13 19:38 UTC
#54

So we are pulling the first test tonight at 6pm EDT and there is a chance that I may be streaming it over twitch.  I still need make sure that all particpants are okay with it, but if so, it will be showing live on http://twitch.tv/kitmehsu .  I may be monkeying around before hand, making sure everything is working even if it turns out I will not be streaming the test.  If the test is streamed, I'll eventually be exporting it to youtube for a demo to use for the file pack I will eventually make to help other people (Who own the game) host their own online boards.

EDIT: RL issues have delayed it by an hour to 7pm EDT

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Silverleaf
2015-03-14 00:20 UTC
#55

Can I join in the next one?

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kitmehsu
2015-03-14 01:18 UTC
#56

Mission one was a success, and I shall now begin my laberous process of creating a creation kit to replicate my setup.  And yes silverleaf, you may join the next one, I have already sent you a link for it from earlier, so feel free to post availability on the discussion threads.

 

And I just discoverd that I forgot to save the settings on archiving the footage from the stream, so there will not be a youtube video showing how this works until another game happens.

 

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kitmehsu
2015-03-14 16:53 UTC
#57

Normally I don't double post, but this is a big enough that I can't justifiy a simple edit.  Through some playing around with roll20, I've figured out a way that, while i can't create a "Module" to load in for the set up, I can duplicate the campaign internally, then promote another person to co-gm of the campaign, effectly letting me instantly create and host virtual boards for people to use.  The only thing that you can't control is the internal next game time feature, which is locked to the true-gm, not a co-gm.  I will be open for requests once I have fully finished out and tested the board template.  Due to the nature and intention of the project, I do ask that at least one player involved in the game actually own the game, as this is meant to allow for people to play the game without being in person, not to substiute for actually having the game (Not that I think it will happen here, but just being on the safe side).  

 

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lutherbellhendricksv
2015-03-26 22:38 UTC
#58

I probably wouldn't play, but I'd be interested in watching some of these games -- does roll20 have a spectate feature?

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Donner
2015-03-26 23:16 UTC
#59

They were on twitch tv last time.

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kitmehsu
2015-03-26 23:32 UTC
#60

In fact, I've just finished uploading them to youtube, if you'd like to check it out: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQs-bv8J74hWYgETAwQ-S0gWJgmRqLnXX

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payprplayn
2015-05-03 21:53 UTC
#61

Is this still a thing? how do I play?  I'd love to play some tactics with some folks who are as into it as I am.  Is there a way to allow a single player to control multiple characters?  I also have a hard time finding players, mostly because my local gaming community is fairly small, so I often wind up playing 2 player games with each of us controlling a whole team, or scenarios with one or more hero players controlling multiple characters.

 

 

P.S. I would totally pay for a Handelabra app, though I'd probably play it on steam, since my tablet's been broken for a while.

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zestage
2015-05-11 20:06 UTC
#62

I activated an account just to reply to this thread to give a +1 that Handelabra should make an app and I'd totally pay for it!! 

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Rabit
2015-05-11 21:24 UTC
#63

Ha! That's awesome. Well, welcome to posting! :grin:

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morph147
2015-05-15 17:13 UTC
#64

Will agree handelabra needs to get on this. Sadly I don't see it happening until they get sentinels of the multiverse done just due to logistics or if we r lucky after season 1, since multiple villains means they r going to have to redo a lot of the interface