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28 posts · 2118 views · started 2013-06-17 19:53 UTC
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Spiff
2013-06-17 19:53 UTC
#1

It's clear that >G likes to populate the Multiverse with unusualness in various forms, which is generally quite nice.  However, while unusualness when it comes to names is fine (heck, who doesn't know a kid named Thiago, amirite?), in a couple of instances, they've slipped past unusualness directly into near-unpronounceability, to me at least.  How am I supposed to pronounce:

  • Hoefle (warden of The Block).  Maybe it's "huffle".  Maybe it's "how-fle".  Maybe it's "how-flee".  No idea.
  • L'epeiste (musketeer in La Capitan's deck).  Maybe it's "lay-epistay".  Maybe it's "laypistay".  Maybe it's "laypeest". Maybe it's something else even Frencher that hasn't occurred to me yet.

Are there any other unpronounceables I've forgotten?

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Ameena
2013-06-17 19:57 UTC
#2

I tend to pronounce the Warden's name as "HER-ful" ("oe" as in "oesophagus").

L'Episte seems straightforward to me - "leh-PEEST".

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arenson9
2013-06-17 20:51 UTC
#3

Hoefle and L'epeiste are names from German (I believe) and French, respectively. I would expect anyone who speaks those languages to be able to pronounce them.

 

I know little of how to pronounce German and am rather rusty with how to pronounce French. That being said, I'm willing to take a stab[1] on how to pronounce L'epeiste: LA pA Est' .  http://www.infoplease.com/pronkey.html

 

[1] Stab, get it?! See, it's funny because L'epeiste translates to one who uses the epee, which is a sword! Oh, never mind.

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arenson9
2013-06-17 20:54 UTC
#4

Akash'bhuta?

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Greywind
2013-06-17 22:08 UTC
#5

Ah-kash-boot-ah

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Reckless
2013-06-17 22:21 UTC
#6

With Ambuscade, is it Ahm-Boo-Skahd or Ahm-Boo-Skayd?

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Ameena
2013-06-17 22:59 UTC
#7

Well, seeing how he's French, I pronounce his name "AM-bus-KAHD" (with the "u" sound as in "push").

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Reckless
2013-06-17 23:11 UTC
#8

That's roughly how we've been pronouncing it, but I've heard people pronounce it "-Skayd".

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Rabit
2013-06-17 23:46 UTC
#9

Per Christopher:

  • Mere - Mer'-ae
  • Taiaha - Tie-a'-ha

 

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Phantom5613
2013-06-18 00:05 UTC
#10

I always just call the warden "Warden Hasselhoff". :stuck_out_tongue:

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Silverleaf
2013-06-18 05:27 UTC
#11

L'épéiste - lay-pay-eest. The "ay" vowel sound is a little shorter than I'd use in my Derbyshire-ish English accent, and the "pay" syllable is slightly stressed. Although it takes me a while to get out of the habit of sounding out French words as if I'm singing them, which is my primary use for French at the moment. If you're singing it sounds more like lay-pay-ees-tuh, so now you can sing the name correctly as well. ;)

Hoeffle - according to Google Translate, her-fl, accent on the first syllable. My German is practically non-existant though, so I'm trusting Google on that one.

Also, Schertzo of Frost and Flame. Italian. Skairt-zoh, stressed "air", last syllable rhymes with "no" . Approximately, since it's hard to write out sounds that are slightly "foreign" without using the IPA, which is not known to most people.

 

But Google Translate's your friend for at least approximate pronunciation.

 

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Theta_Sigma
2013-06-18 05:52 UTC
#12

After some discussion while playing with friends, we renamed  L'epeiste "Le Pete" because we couldn't agree on pronunciation. :P

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Silverleaf
2013-06-18 07:52 UTC
#13

Some of the Ennead/Tomb of Anubis guys are a bit weird as well. I still can't make my head believe that Nuit isn't pronounced as in French, ~nwee, rather than nut.

Anyone have thoughts on Urshe and Shamise? Does the final E make a sound? I'm currently using a schwa sound (a kind of "uh" like at the end of my name, Anna) but I have no idea if that's correct or not.

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Vyolynce
2013-06-18 13:44 UTC
#14

I actually picked this one up from playing Mark of Kri (PS2). :slight_smile:

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Greywind
2013-06-18 18:47 UTC
#15

Ur-shae

Sham-eece

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Ameena
2013-06-18 20:34 UTC
#16

Here are how I tend to pronounce stuff...

Mere = "MEER"

Taiaha = "ty-AH-ha"

Scherzo = "SHER-zo" (or possibly "SHAIR-zo")

Nuit = "NOO-it"

Urshe = "URSH"

Shamise = "sham-EESS"

 

Incidentally, in case anyone brings it up, it was confirmed some time ago by Christopher that LIlian's cohorts' names are pronounced "HEW-gin" and "MEW-nin". I always pronounce the former with a hard G which I hope is right, but I can't remember, now whether this was confirmed as well.

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Silverleaf
2013-06-18 20:36 UTC
#17

Thanks, that makes sense.

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Silverleaf
2013-06-18 20:43 UTC
#18

The "ch" is a hard C sound like in kick, and the "z" like in pizza, kind of a tz.

I'm pretty sure it's a hard "g" too, like in gin.

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Ameena
2013-06-18 20:51 UTC
#19

"Gin" is a soft G. A hard G would be as in "grab".

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Christopher
2013-06-18 23:54 UTC
#20

I should do an open Google Hangout some time and just go through and pronounce any word you folks have questions about.

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Pydro
2013-06-18 23:55 UTC
#21

Great....so when is it?

It might be a little hard to have all the cards in front of your and just read them off. I suggest you take your notebook out and just start reading.

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Ronway
2013-06-19 00:08 UTC
#22

Better yet, do an open hangout and allow people just to ask all questions!

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Phantom5613
2013-06-19 02:20 UTC
#23

...If he did that, when would he sleep?!

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Foote
2013-06-19 02:31 UTC
#24

I think, if you did do such a hangout, that we be playing a game of sentinels at the same time. 

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arenson9
2013-06-19 04:14 UTC
#25

http://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/others/hugin-and-munin/

http://www.ourbabynamer.com/meaning-of-Shamise.html

 

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Silverleaf
2013-06-19 08:38 UTC
#26

Yeah. Apparently I was a sleep-deprived idiot when I wrote that. :wink:

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Rabit
2013-06-19 12:03 UTC
#27

Christopher? Oh, he doesn't sleep, anyway… :wink:

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razor831
2013-06-22 19:57 UTC
#28

Huh, seen no straight answer on Hoefle yet.

 

My German IS a little rusty, but if I'm not mistaken, the e at the end wouldn't be silent.  The oe is a stand-in for ö, which isn't QUITE pronounced like "er," but that's a good approximation for native English speakers.  To actually get the right sound, you need to purse your lips like you're going to make an "oo" sound, but then make an "oh" sound through that pursing.  The -le at the end would be "luh."