Sentinels Wiki

Updates list for major updates:

Jan 17 2104- Updated Format

Feb 1st 2014, will be posting Vengeance stuff.

March 27th 2014, Tactics stuff updated.

Aug 5th, 2014, Prime Wardens added  from Wrath Event

Aug 13, 2014, Added EA Labs and RevoCorp Pages. Also previously added an Iterations of Omnitron page, all three can be found here http://sotm.wikidot.com/the-multiverse.

Aug 14 20114, Sentinel Tactics infromation added, about members of The Organization and the Citizens of the Sun

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It was mentioned in another thread that there was surprise there is no wiki for SotM. Given all the tidbits of information we find, the insane backstory that weaves through all the expansions, and bits and pieces here and there that will mean something much later on...

We simply -must- have one.

So i started one!

http://sotm.wikidot.com/

Its nothing special. It needs images, but I do not know how much we are allowed to post regarding infromation on this sight and images. If you have ever worked with MediaWiki (the most popular version of the wiki, pretty much with Wikipedia uses) then wiki dot is similar, but a slightly different coding scheme. It doesnt take long to get the hang off for basic editing, and ive already formated the majority of pages so all that needs to be done is intesert the information!

SO Whats needed is for the Sentinels to go forth and add what we know (Since I don't actually own the game yet (dont worry my money is in the kickstarter :P) and just play with my friends version when i get over there) and add as much info as we can find.

And then I'd also love to get some permission or guidelines from >G on what kind of images we're allowed to post. I am pretty sure full cards are out, but maybe it would be OK for full hero cards to be posted, given what spiff has on his website I think its ok? 

Anyways this is the product of me getting the energy for a project and staying up way to late, so if you find oddities either let me know or fix it yourself if you can (the glory of Wiki's) But its started, now it needs the rest of you to help flesh it out.

Suggestions:

1) Add a section for Have strategies.Heroes, villains, environments. You can ask the users online for thier permission to sue thier posts.

2) Good synergies with characters.

3) Can you chnage "The Game" to the Multiverse? I can't 

4) Fanart, costumes, stories

5)Podcasts, youtube videos, etc...

I will give more suggestions, and I can help out with some articles, etc...

EDIT: explained my third point. Also explained myself more. SOunded less dickish

There is a secton on each heroe page for general strategies, and the idea for more detailed strategies to be linked to their own pages from that section. If you look at AbZero's page, i linked Firewalkers abzero guide, but yes I should get permission.

And General Strategies would be a good place for Synergies

I will certainly change it to Multiverse. Good idea.

And i had some fan created section on the game page, but ill make its own page given that there is so much more that could be added.

Perfect. This looks great!

This is an excellent site.  And you say that you don't even own the game yet?  That's dedication.  I'll definitely try to get my group to help me come up with some good additions!

I don't own a physical copy myself yet :P I have 200 dollars in the kickstarter for playtesting status, all the boxes, and Vengeance, and the two mini expansions. Im going to try to foget I paid for vengeance, so it will be WHOA FREE STUFF! day when it arrives XD

I play weekly with my buddy Smafdi, who does own all the current game. But I don't have direct access to the card to go adding the cool little tidbits and stuff that others have fun. Not until may that is. o.o

You have permission to link to any of my guides.  Just make sure my name is on them. 

Are we still unable to use >G art?

Never had a call from >G one way or another. Id love to hear back to say if we can or cannot - I /believe/ it falls under Fair Use but I am not certain (i am not a copyright lawyer:P) 

As they are already going up on the wiki, if it becomes a problem as owner of the wiki ill remove them, but I don't think it will be. 

Probably best to not post official art without explicit permission you can point to.  Have you tried emailing them?

We will be releasing a Creative Commons art pack after this kickstarter is done. We are very interested in supporting the wiki, but right now, 100% or our time is being spend on the Kickstarter, Shattered Timelines, Vengeance, and [redacted]. But we will get art to you soon. 

I'm sorry, didn't quite catch it, what was that last one after Vengeance?

Oh, sorry. I must have misspoken. The last one was [redacted]. It's a [redacted], [redacted]-[redacted] game that we're very excited about. We think you'll really enjoy [redacted].

Hope this helps!

Very helpful.

What would the funniest thing ever is if the game was actually called [redacted]. I really hope it is. 

I thought I would create some fanart for the pages, but it sounds like there will be some free-to-use art soon.  I went ahead and uploaded my Fanatic picture to her page.  http://sotm.wikidot.com/fanatic

Hahah greatest Response evar [Redacted]

Im adding a Rumors page and putting that quote in it << >>

And thanks, on the creative commons art pack. Unfortunately I know so very little about copyright law that I do not know if what we have up there or not is useable or not << >> (basically the promo cards from the kickstarter have shown up there - Not sure how legal that is yet :/)

But looking forward to the createive arts pack!

Oh and Dypaca, great on the artwork. When we get the pack mentioned above, ill move that to the Fan Created page.

EDIT

Spiff, duh. You're a genius. I just emailed Paul. I'll get some answers soon!

Since the first time I saw the word used here, I've been wondering - is the whole "[redacted]" thing a GLaDOS reference? :D

Oh, and Dypaca - wow that's a really cool pic :D.

Nice drawing, Dypaca! Love it.

And I'd love to help with hunting for bits of information for the wiki. There's a few things I can remember I should find. I can even do one right now!

EDIT: I think it's important that everyone doesn't try to flood the wiki pages with their own personal speculations about characters. We'll keep all that here. But I think it's okay if we post things that are heavily hinted at and we all agree on, like how Bunker: Engine of War is almost certainly Fright Train in a Bunker suit. Any objections to this method?

On BGG I've been trying to keep the Additional Info section updated for all the extras this game contains as well as keeping a long post updated explaining to people where various characters come from in the game and such (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/878224/the-sotm-family-of-games-the-whos-who-of-expansi) I was looking to see what might cross over from the resources I've tried to maintain to the Wiki but it looks like its mostly covered already. Just organized differently.

[redacted] is obviously what the government does to text it doesn't want made public in otherwise public documents, but the use of it like we do probably stems from Jonathan Coulton's "Chiron Beta Prime", where the narrator is about to say something the robot overlords won't like but the audio cuts out and a robot voice says "message redacted".

You can see it here in my excellent machinima video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5M9UTlDb10

Haha! Johnathan Coulton, eh? Okay, so it sort of is a GLaDOS reference, since Coulton wrote the songs sung by GLaDOS (voiced by Ellen McLain) in which "[redacted]" appears :D. Never heard of Chiron Beta Prime, myself, though. I know Chiron was a centaur in Greek mythology, but somehow I don't think there's much of a connection ;).

Exactly Evan

Anything that goes on the main wiki pages themselves should be quoted either by referencing Cards (for flavor text support) or with links to Forum Posts (as I've seen you've done with Tachyon)

Anything else that is pure speculation  - we could create a Rumors page for each character? Or use the Discussion page for rumors.

I'd say we have a section for priority rumors, those things I said that we're pretty much all in agreement with. Like Fright Train being Engine Bunker, or the guy on Expatriette's Shock Rounds being Kismet's nemesis. We can cite the evidence showing these things, even though they might not be officially confirmed.

I also took care of info on Expatriette's dad.

I’ll look into tonight when I get home updating the format and perhaps making a template for new pages in the future ad making it easier to update the site. I’ll be making a cited info section, practically confirmed rumors and a wild speculations

For those of you with the 'email me changes' on... I apologize for blowing the hell out of your mailboxes tonight :p

Ive gone and converted all the Hero and Villain pages to a templated version. This has several benfits

1) Allows much quicker updating of the format, update one page and all are done

2) Much easier for newbie types to edit the pages - there is not a mess of code to work around, just clear lines for each section.

3) In that same vein new pages are much easier to make now too

4) I will be getting to the Environments but its 530am and ... ah hell who am i kidding im off to do those now.

I've decided to make a few contributions to the wiki, namely digging through the bios from the enhanced edition rulebook to incorporate info from those bios into the hero and villain bios that were copy and pasted from the multiverse page onto the wiki. In some cases, I'll be adding a separate section to the character's biography for the rulebook bios. In other cases, I'll just slightly reword the descriptions already on the wiki, depending on how much overlap there is between the rulebook bios and website bios. For example, Bunker's bio in the rulebook is mostly about the history of the suit, while his bio on the website is mostly about Lt. Vance's personal history, so I'll be posting the rulebook bio as an add-on to the bio already there. Legacy's rulebook bio, on the other hand, is basically a condensed version of the website bio, with the only nonredundant info being the fact that he is the founder of the Freedom Five. As a side note, I do not have Rook City or Infernal Relics, so if those rulebooks have bios in them as well, I think it would be a good idea for someone else to edit the expansion hero and villain bios in the same way.

Those rulebooks are availble in our Downloads section, by the way.

Thanks, that'll help a lot.

EDIT: Okay, I went through the three rulebooks and made whichever additions and modifications to the wiki bios that I felt were appropriate. I also added information to the Multiverse page, as well as the Confirmed and Extracted Information sections for a few of the heroes, villains, and environments. Lastly, I added lists of all the promo hero and promo villain character cards to the Heroes and Villains pages. I hope people like the changes I made.

I was poking around the wiki and went to the Contents page, where I saw duplicates for some pages (Baron Blade and Apostate, for instance).  Looks like the Contents are showing a normal page (villain:Apostate) and a deleted page (deleted:Apostate).  That probably shouldn't be.

that’s cause instead of deleting them directly I just moved them to save the Content for now. Contents literally shows every page on the wiki. after a bit and the template pages are fully underway ill go through and properly delete those duplicates

Another structure update (not as extensive as the last one :O)

Split the Mulitverse page into The Game and The Multiverse - the game contains the real world data (Expansion information, Erratta, >G info) and The Multiverse is for story information. It currently links to the Comic List found here on the forums and Freedom Four Anual #1, as well as a place for various organizations to be fleshed out as we find out more information.

I added the members for the Freedom 4, 5, and 6 (at least as far as I aware, is correct) But information is lacking in those pages, as well as the Prime Wardens page. If anyone has anything they know about those organizations, please add to the pages!

or link the information here (if its a forum post, or just tell me the card for the information if not) and ill update them :)

Sadly, I don't think much is known about the Prime Wardens. I wish there was. If there's not already a part on this, right now I've got some time to type up the evidence that Fright Train is Engine Bunker.

Oops, just saw there is, but it could use a few more points, also some (I think) conclusive evidence that it's him. Mainly, think about heights.

I added the following. If you want to revise this and compress it, that's fine. And I have no clue about any of the formatting techniques on the wiki, so if you'd like to rework some of the keywords into links to other pages, that'd be great, since I have no idea how to do so.

Added up the Chronology that has been put up here in this sub form. And messed with the side nav a little. 

man i wish I was getting my decks already! :( I want to be scouring the cards for tidbits and putting stuff up :p

I think flavor text from artwork that was publically released would be a good addition (Tachyon's Fleet of Foot, Legacy's Lead from the Front, etc.)

Hopefully we'll get that artpack/web development kit soon!

http://sotm.wikidot.com/fan-created

i started adding Reviews, podcasts, other things - unforutnately i'm also lazy. If anyone wants to jump in there and help find all the awesome reviews and link them up in chronological order, that would be great :P

I know I should be doing this myself since I'm the one who thought of it, but I'm working on the Shattered Timelines accessories and am unlikely to get to it anytime soon.  In any case, here's a suggestion for something to add to the wiki:

Iron Legacy has a rack of nemesis icons, and I was pretty sure the third one from the left was Tempest, but I figured I should check before I added that to Iron Legacy's oversized villain card.  I thought the wiki would be the perfect place to be able to find that info, but there's nothing there showing each hero's icons.  I eventually double-checked by pulling out the card itself, but this seems like exactly the kind of info that should be on the wiki, no?  If anyone has the time and inclination, perhaps they could add that info.

Yeah we do need graphics for the icons for nemisi -  But ive been warry of just scanning cards and using the graphics due to copyright reasonings - ive used whats been available on the internet already, but not sure how far that goes (so far havent had any negative response...)

kinda hoping that those are included in the fan site art pack theyre going to be releasing ... soon... i hope... :P

I drew all the icons for the known heroes using Inkscape so I could use them to decorate the box I use to store Sentinels, not sure if that falls under blatant copyright infringement, or just "fanart". 

I have them available in vector and bitmap format, so if you want to use them , PM me and I can send them to you.  They are not super exact copies, but they are as close as I could get them with the info I had.  I put one up as my avatar as an example.

As long as you're not selling them for profit, you should be alright.

thanks to jagarciao ive got all the nemisi icons up on the Hero and Villian pages (Not counting promo, doesnt seem to be needed)

They are -really- awesome looking, and despite me sizing them down to 75x75 they are about 2inches wide in actuallity. those are just friggin awesome jagarciao

Yeah, those look great.  Great job.

Ive updated the Wiki with the Incapacitated powers of the Promo Heroes, and the Shattered Timeline heroes, the other titles of the new villains, and the complexities/difficulties (Scholar and Miss Information are still not officially printed anywhere)

On the wiki, Eternal Haka's power says: "Haka of Knowledge - Draw 1 card. Discard 1 card with "Haka" in the title. If you do, draw 2 cards".  Is that missing the words "you may", as in "You may discard 1 card with Haka in the title..."?  That's an important distinction, and since I don't have my cards yet, I'm not sure what the final wording ended up being.

Also, is the wording on Price of Freedom Wraith's innate power what's actually printed on her card?  I'd heard the wording would be "The Wraith deals up to 2 targets 1 melee damage each", but the wiki doesn't have the "up to".  What's the final card say?

Yep. Both of those got updated since the info was put on the wiki, as you so point out - ill go update the wiki now.

The Bio information (mostly Stat blocks) for all the Shattered timelines and new promo decks has been added. 

If anyone is intersted, the Deck sections still need to be done for each of the Shattered Timelines stuff, and those sections need to be expanded in general across the entire wiki :p

We still need some artwork for the front page too!

Yes we do.  I volunteer for the front page art.  I'll see what I can throw together.

UPDATE:  Done.  I don't think anyone will mind me using tiny versions of some of the official art, but if they do, we can remove it.

those rock. Thanks!

Added a few more Guides that have popped up. I haven't had the time to browse this forum much lately, so if you have and you want to contribute, please feel free to add the tidbits that are being uncovered!

Bumping this thread, as I did some massive revisions to the wiki.

Turned the Card References into a massive [[include]] list - and then updated all the hero/villain/environment pages to use the same include. Now when you update information in terms of References (all the fun stuff, the theorycrafting, the interesting tidbits, ect) it will update both pages. This also allows for easier use of said information later - for instance if we wanted to put all the Freedom Fives information together on the Freedom Five page, it would just use all the includes.

And created a Nemisis Chart, listing all the Nemisis icons and who they corrleate too.

if interested, you can see that here: http://sotm.wikidot.com/nemesis-chart

Again, if you have something to contribue to the Wiki, don't be afraid too! I may adapt or change some things depending on need, formating, ect, but thats what Wiki's are for, crowd sourcing information! <grins>

http://sotm.wikidot.com/

Why not include La Capitan's and Kismet's nemesis icons?

yeah, we DO already know Setback and the Sentinels' nemesis icons.

I think the other evidence for La Capitan and the Sentinels being nemeses is the design of the Nemesis icon on La Capitan's card. Same for Kismet and Setback: the die is Setback's symbol.

it has a Chain (Mainstay), light (Medico), darkness (Writhe), and blue/green psychic waves (Idealist). Plus it's established in their backstory that La Capitan is their nemesis.

Also Parse. She is Miss Information's nemesis, so you could put her symbol there as well.

I made the images of the nemesis icons that were used on the wiki and when I made them we didn't have those three available. 

I just emailed the images for Parse, Setback, and The Sentinels to lynkfox so they might be up in the next update. 

jagarciao nailed it. Thats why. I am no artist and have no talent in this area :p But he made the /very most awesome/ icons, and i was going to PM him today (Because i stopped working on the wiki at like... 3am and kinda crashed) and when I got up he had already done it!

So they are up and added, for Sentinels, Setback, and Parse. 

lynkfox,

I am consistently excited and impressed by the wiki. Thank you so much to all the work you and the other contributors put into it. It is awesome!

*toes dirt* 

awww shucks.

Added to the front page a list of everything that still needs to be done to various pages to get them to 'Finalized' status. If you want to help, chip in.

Added a 'Minor Character's page for listing all targets like Warden Hoefle or Char. 

Added F.I.L.T.E.R. and the Hayes brothers to the organizations

always more to be added. There have been many many guides posted that I never got linked if someone wants to go through and update all the guide links

Jan 17 - Updated Formating. Preparing for Vengeance.

There's something about that line that just sounds awesome…

I'm totally preparing for Vengeance. That makes me awesome too, right?

You were awesome already, so that just makes you doubley so. ;3
On a side note, I’d like to point out something that could be added to the reference section of Tachyon’s page(I’d do it myself, but I don’t trust my internet connection or myself to not mess something up somehow… ).
On the incapacitated side of Tachy’s card there are two silhouettes of what could be presumably villains. I believe these two to be female counterparts to Flash villains Captian Cold and the Top(I THINK thats his name…) The one rider of the ice bridge seems to be holding a pistol of some kind just like the good captain uses, and the other seems to be spinning at a high velocity to create a mini tornado like the other.
If anyone has info to prove me wrong then I welcome your criticism, but if not then I think this bit of info would fit right in the reference section.

We have nothing yet to prove or disprove who those are. (not even as a playtester do I have that information!)

but speculation is always welcome :)

I ll throw something up on her reference page as 'Unconfirmed' :)

My (completely uninformed) conclusion was that they were pretty much exclusively that; references to The Flash's villains and nothing more. I can't see them appearing in any significant fashion; they seem too small time (also unoriginal). And that's saying something, when Friction gets her own deck.

Hey, Christopher told me a few things in London that I could add to the wiki. Is "Christopher told me" enough or do you need him to hgave confirmed it here?

If he told you and didn't mind it being shared, I think it's good enough.

Christopher is so notoriously short worded when it comes to giving away spoilers if he told you something, then generally its cause he wants to put it out there.  - Your call though if you felt it was in confidence or not. :)

But yeah, thats fine -thats how half our stuff is gotten, because there are no other spoilers than what Christopher allows us to see (through the cards or his own words)

And Mc, nothing is put into the art that doesn't have a purpose. I mean hell, we saw Setback 3 sets before he came out, remember? There will be /something/ that uses an ice bridge and something that spins like a top. May not be a straight up villain deck but somewhere those two will make an appearance.... 

(ie, also, Jim was in Akash  deck as a Sillhouette long before we had an inkling of who he'd be) 

On the other hand, Captain America's shield, among others, appears on Reclaim From The Deep. While we can' discount these guys' later appearance, it's also entirely possible that they are just an allusion.

What I told Silverleaf was absolutely meant to find its way here. I'll attempt to be vigilant about anything she posts to make sure that time and memory didn't change any of my intentions.

Christopher is so notoriously short worded when it comes to giving away spoilers if he told you something, then generally its cause he wants to put it out there.

I'm going to take this as a compliment. *grin*

Jim was seen in Plauge Rats deck long before Akash was released. Flavor text even has a direct quote from Chrono-Ranger

I’m not saying that the two I mentioned will get their own decks or anything, just that they could belong under Tachy’s references in the wiki.

it entirely was grin

We've seen some elemental looking characters about, and I wouldn't be surprised if they showed up as a team, ala the Vengeance system.  One-dimensional villains are perfect for that style.

Sigh.  Can't wait to play Fright Train.

There is a little group of misfits on Chrono-Rangers bounty. I am not saying that that they are the ones on Tachyons incap side, but just reminding that there are a few groups of small time villains runing around. <Vengeance> I have a feeling Vengeance will raise more questions than answers in this regard</Vengeance>

How bout dem tags?

I think he meant Omnitron-X, not Chrono-Ranger. He appears in Disrupt the Field.

And Ronway... Well played.

WHAT DID CHRISTOPHER TELL YOU SILVERLEAF

And Chrono-Ranger appears on Living Rockslide.

Oh, I always thought that was Argent Adept.

*cough*

Spoilers

Heroes updated with their Powers/HP/Incap

Gah...Want to look...so...BAD...

But I think I'll try to hold out for my copy to come in the mail...Though I don't think I'll make it. :/

*cough two*

Spoilers

Villains updated...

Vengeance Party here:

http://sotm.wikidot.com/vengeance-release-party

How did I not see that? I was THERE?! And I asked Christopher if there was an Argent promo laying around, and he said no! That lying bastard!

... I wonder if that's Anthony Drake. It looks like him, and he IS a bartender, but it also looks like a different time period. Plus his name isn't Kvothe.

Interesting power, though...

I'm assuming this is a fake, and if not it's lame.  Even if Christopher and Rothfuss are besties, I tend to disapprove of such acts of stream-crossing; random crossovers between unrelated works are seldom worthwhile, and are best confined to the realm of teenagers writing fan-fiction as a stepping-stone to someday achieving originality.

I, for one, love the crossover of that promo, even if it never actually shows up

Crossover Promos are great. (And yes, this is a PROMO.) Legacy is a promo character in BattleCon: Devastation of Indines, which is why I bought it in the first place. And I'm glad I did, because I like it even better than Sentinels! 

Although, I guess this isn't PRIME WARDEN Argent Adept, which is what I asked about, so it's not technically lying...

Maybe he's an earlier Argent Adept - Anthony Drake is only the current Argent Adept. Actually wait, it's Virtuoso of the Void, isn't it, the actual title - this particular one (Drake) is called the Argent Adept. Either way, if that's a promo for his deck, I want it!

…as opposed to adults that write fanfic?

I can't believe that would be a legit alternate card, as it is an upgrade over Omnitron-X's power.

Adults that write fanfic are artists expressing themselves, and should be encouraged and respected.

Especially when they write fanfic about superheroes from a card game.

Bunker and Team Leader Tachyon?

as i understand its entirely legit, some other forum members may have overheard the crossover discussions

It's no less legitimate a power than Tachyon compared to TLTachyon, it helps the team but it slows your setup.

As an aside I thought the general forum consensus was that comparing decks to decks was deemed a waste as not every hero wants to play the same way.

It seems like a good power, but I can see some drawbacks.

If both cards are not helpful (or outright hurtful, like inventory barrage/self sacrifice/know when to turn loose) you HAVE to play one of them.  its not optional.  more often than not, its going to be useful- but it could bite you.  Another potential area is that the base power has no ways of activating his songs, which makes him MUCH more reliant on his instruments.  So he's going to be a bit more of a slow burn in order to get those wonderful combos, and he has even less HP to get things going.

OX is a lot sturdier than the adept, and has a lot more ways to do things automatically (IE: start of turn) that aren't dependant on his power.  so he can get a LOT of stuff done and still use his base power to help the group (or further his own setup).  This version of the Adept would have a much quicker start (in that he can start letting other people do stuff) right away, but sacrifices some of his long term flexibility to do it. 

My Muse writes a lot of fanfic about a lot of different topics. She's a decent writer.

More people should write, just to improve their spelling and grammar usage. My number one peeve about the interwebz.

Inside of his own deck I love the base power.

Inventive preparation and his base power?  Awesome.

Vernal Sonata and his Base Power?  Awesome.

My negative reaction comes from Omnitron-X's power being so cheesy powerful vs. certain villains and situations, and now Adept gets to do that and put a hero card in play at the same time.

I know you could get a bad card, but there are a lot of decks that can take a DDA and know they aren't going to get burned, now you can do that with Adept too.

I'd just prefer it were limited to hero decks.

I've always hated power creep, and sometimes I think I am seeing it in this game.

Mostly I'm wrong, I hope I continue to be.

5 cards, much longer set up time than just going from the get go, like the promo but super slow!

Nemises chart page is updated and mini vengeance nemesis added to hero pages.

*cough* keep this thread for the wiki please, take the argent adept discussion to the thread in the rules forum about him :)

…I fell off the Self-enforced wagon, guys.

heh

Updated the Reference page to have links to edit references pages directly.  Will make it easier to get to and add new information for less wiki savy folks.

Added Reference pages for all of the Vengeance stuff

Updated the Vengeance Release party page a little

Added Special mechanics rules for Setback, The Naturalist, and The Sentinels.

Updated Nemesis Chart.

EDIT:  Apologies, Lynkfox, I posted before reading your request to not post.  Admins, please move this post to the appropriate thread.

Precisely.  And anyway I never said that teenagers shouldn't write fanfic, only that they shouldn't expect it to be taken seriously as real art.  By now it's pretty well confirmed that "Kvothe" is a real Sentinels character now, which depresses the fuck out of me.  It's not as bad as Darth Vader being in Soul Calibur, but it's close.  I thought >G had more artistic integrity than that.  At least I know he's doing it because he likes Rothfuss, rather than because Rothfuss paid him to do it; being a goober who lacks what I consider "standards" (or at least one standard) is more noble than being a sell-out, but I'm still bummed knowing that this crazy weird promo character exists, and would be fun to play, but is disappointing on a conceptual level.

With Christopher asking that it be taken down, it is quite possible that that is a custom promo, and not a final version they will release.

It is possible that the Argent Adept was influenced by the character, or maybe just similar enough that they made a card like that.

We won't know until we see a final version if that is where they are officially going with it.

OK -- after a quick skim, I believe the following assertion to be true, but want somebody to check me:

I believe that Vengeance contains a nemesis card for every hero known to date, and a few others besides. These hint and, and possibly give names for, future heroes. (I didn't count carefully, but assuming the final two expansions have the standard two heroes each, we might have nemeses for every hero in the game.)

I personally think that it would be an awesome addition to the game.

It isn't like we haven't had cross-overs in the game before(Nightmist and the whole Archam Horror franchise), so I don't really see to much of a problem if that particular promo turns out to be official or not.

This is true for the nemeses - between the V% and the nemeses in their decks, there is one for each existing hero + 3 additional heores who have not yet shown up.  That's 26 hero decks.

If we are assuming that the heroes who don't have unique nemesis decks (outside of the V5 format) will get them, then the current heroes without nemeses are: AbZero, Bunker, Unity, Scholar,KNYFE, The Naturalist.  Assumign the two heroes in the next expansion get their nemeses in that one, then we would have two additional nemeses for the above group (I'm betting on the Naturalist for one based on card art).  We would still have 4 heroes needing a unique nemesis, which would still leave us short with another normal sized expansion.  If Fight Train and Prole and supposed to be the main nemeses of Bunker and AbZero, then the numbers work out.

There could still be mini-expansions or a different size expansion.

Battle in Megalopolis? Which room was that in? I completely missed it. Damn my need to film everything and not pay attention! I only saw that promo card BECAUSE I was filming something! I saw the forest, but not the trees!

One of those 3 new hero names will be a mini-expansion hero during the Cosmos cycle most likely. In my estimation, that mini-expansion hero will turn out to be the little girl from Blighted Streets and Vigilance. Tons of supporting evidence for that one once you break into your Vengeance cards. 

Bunker and AZ will get true nemesis fights. Most likely in Cosmos to be honest. I had always thought this expansion would be a space/tech theme, having Bunker, AZ, KNYFE, and Unity get big bads in that expo seems appropriate. This would leave our 2 new heros from Comso, Naturalist, and Scholar to have big bads in the final expansion who will be joined by the ultimate big bad. 

Not the Scholar, unless there's something I don't know.

There are many things you don't know. Scholar has the most interesting one in my opinion (from a narrative sense)

this might help

http://sotm.wikidot.com/nemesis-chart

Yes, Vengeance does have a nemesis for all known heroes +3 more. Currenly without 'Main' Nemesis (I'm not counting the V5 as main yet) is AZ, Bunker, KNYFE, The Naturalist, Nightmist, The Scholar, Unity, and of course the 3 names we just found out.

That makes 10 villains that still need to be released. If we consider that Vengeance may have been (MAY) the halfway point, that turns 3 expansions + 1 more mega expansion. That will be likely 12+5? 17+ villains? 11+ Heroes as well though. I have no idea how this is going to work out. You guys do the math it hurts my head.

Ouch, poor GloomWeaver.

There's only supposed to be one more non-mega expansion, unless they've changed their plans.  (Which I kinda hope they haven't, as it would delay my access to the promo pack they won't publish until they're completely done.)

being a goober who lacks what I consider "standards"

Hey, Envisioner. I've got plenty of standards. Sorry you're disappointed.

Not really sorry.

Though, yeah, I'm most likely a goober. Anyone who was here this weekend can probably confirm that.

I will confirm that, and I wasn't even there this weekend!

Someone care to translate "goober" for an English person? I've never heard that one. 

Can confirm–I may have acquired a flash drive full of footage of Christopher being a goober. Will be uploading said footage very soon.

Anna: "Goober" = silly person

Have you not studied your enemy?

Goober can be defined as a person from the south-eastern US, especially Georgia or Arkansas

but I'm more inclined to believe that it was referring to a kindhearted, rather oblivious goofball

A "goober" is a peanut.

Colloquially calling someone a goober is saying that they have the intelligance of a peanut. Its similar to Chinese people calling idiots potatos in slang.

Meh, I'm the one that spilled two drinks at once.

But yeah, I have a feeling many of us are "goobers".

Know what's irritating? I knew that. I immediately thought "peanut" and then decided I was wrong and that my brain had made one of those stupid connections that make no sense. And not realising that peanut could be used as an insult, I thought goober had to mean something else.

Not trusting my own brain when it's correct makes me a goober, right?

Best food-based idiot word has to be my dad's. I don't know if it's exclusive to the little mining village he grew up in, but I've only ever heard it from his family - duck egg. As in, "Christopher? He's a right duck egg," - right in this case meaning real, or proper. 

Back on topic, I agree out the mini-expansion, but think it very likely that at least one if not both of the WotC heroes will get their presumedly cosmic nemeses in the same expansion and the Naturalist's presumed nemesis has at least one appearence in a cosmic series (and looks alien-ish).  I certainly hope AZ and Bunker get their true nemeses, however it happens.

I'm a Goofy Goober, YEAH!

You're a Goofy Goober, YEAH!

We're Goofy Goobers, YEAH!

GOOFY GOOFY GOOBER GOOBER, YEAH!

Vengeance Spoilers

There is no reason to think Bunker and AZ wont get true nemmys at all. It is pretty much a given it will happen. A spacey-techy expansion seems a fantastic place to put them. Knyfe and Unity just seemed to fit from a theme point of view, but I could see Sky and Naturalist be in that slot as well. KNYFE may very well be saved for the final expansion since it will most likely tie up the FILTER story, and Unity/Scholar could easily be interchanged.

Edit:The thing with Naturalist's nemmy is that the shadow on his incap bears a STRONG resemblance to Thor in both color pallete and costume. I have outlined connections to Norse Mythology to Matriarch and the Cosmic Entity, so my money is on that nemmy being in the final expansion.

But there is a bigger question.

Even if the nemmy/hero combos dont work out like I predicted, they are still all accounted for (minus mini-expansions). 4 villains in Cosmos and 4 in the final expansion plus the cosmic entity. AZ,Bunker,KNYFE,Unity / Naturalist,Capt,Sky,Scholar are it. 

So…if you see where I am going with this…will there even be more hero decks in the final mega expansion? With all the nemmy combos accounted for, unless the mega expansion plans to add more than 5 villains (which is where the math works out to), whats left?

If the final mega expansion is the "ultimate showdown", wouldn't some of the universes Villains have a bit of a stake here as well? If the universe goes boom, so do they. Could some Villains see hero deck alternatives?! You could keep the nemmy symbols the same. Matriarch instantly jumps out as a solid candidate for a hero deck based on her back story, the themes her deck deals with (as noted in my big Matriarch thread), sly comments from Christopher, and some art found in Parse's deck. How about Ambuscade? If there is any big hunting game in town bigger than Haka, it would be the cosmic entity right?  He doesnt hunt heros because of some vendetta, its because he just simply enjoys hunting powerful things. What about Baron Blade? The Lex to Legacy's Superman. Those two DC characters have had to team up on countless occasions to address bigger threats, might this be the time to set aside differences?

Been cleaning up the http://sotm.wikidot.com/character-references page today. 

Look at Naturalists deck for Indomitable force for what I think is his nemsis, based on the sillouhette on his incap side. Not very Thor-y or norse-y to me, more alien.

The final expansion could also be a sort of "next generation" thing.  that way, they could have new decks and takes on characters as their sidekicks take over, someone new stepping into the shoes of a deceased mentor or even someone completely new who inherits a nemesis.  Or both!

For instance, Thiago could become Legacy, but his nemesis symbol would be the Chairman/operative. Or he could become Mr Fixer's apprentice (and thus the symbol would inherit).  

Expatriette could gain powers to rival Dawn...and that that point, would she even play the same?  you could make an ENTIRE new deck based around an Expatriette who was manipulating death energy (Since Dawn manipulates life force/energy) with the tactical insights and training she learned as a merc.  same symbol, entirely different character playstyle.

Red cape. Blue chest with silver circles on breast. Yellow head. Yes he is an alien, but the I think the resemblance is there

Ambuscade and Matriarch would make sense.  I would also think Dawn could easily be transformed into a hero deck.  Any of the non-IL Shattered Timelines villains could be written that way too, I would think

Uneasy Alliances would make a great theme for the final expansion.  

eh? Yes, but those are typical alien villain colors/effects in comics anyways, not just Norse. I can see the connection, but think its rather dubious.

Wiki Update 

http://sotm.wikidot.com/character-references

Page is finished. All the current decks are posted there. If you see something I missed or have wrong or didn't have the answer too, feel free to update.

My favorite are these 3 multiple appearing unknowns

The guy on Reset is not the electric guy you are thinking of. Looks more like Tempest charging an attack while Legacy holds Voss off.

I disagree. But the sillouhette is not clear enough to determine one way or the other in my opinion. 

Arguable, but I'm going to agree with Foote on this one.  In all the other pics of the electric guy, his chest and belt are very clearly "lit up", and on Reset, it appears that the glow is emanating only from his hand.  Again, arguable though.

Who do we think the Neo-Elf villain's nemesis will be? I was thinking she'd be Sky's nemesis, though I don't have any grounds for that--just that they're both aliens, and that the Sulph-Orc lookalike is most likely Naturalist's nemesis.

What about Guise? We need to account for him too, right? Would his nemesis just be a mini-expansion?

Team Fancy had a very long discussion about how the Matriarch will come into play in the end, and here's my take on her: she is, in fact, the "vessel" for the cosmic being. CosBe needs Lillian for some particular reason in order to gain full power. "The child is the center." So Matriarch is very, very important. However, I don't see her receiving her own separate hero deck. Rather, I think Lillian will be a card in CosBe's deck, and directly influence CosBe's flip mechanic. Maybe CosBe possesses her. Who knows. But I think rather than be her own hero, she'll play a major role in CosBe's deck.

Who's Sky? One of the mini-nemesis guys from a Vengeance deck? I don't recall coming across him/her yet (but I've only fought the Vengeance Five about three times so probably haven't seen all their cards yet ;)).

hahah. Im so glad you called him a Sulph-Orc too. I said that to Adam this weekend and he gave me his patentend Artist smile and 'I dont know what you mean' line :p

Sky-Scraper = Thorathian girl

Are you sure Sky-Scrapper is an alien? I personally think that she may have been human that had her DNA spliced with Thorathian DNA. Take a gander at Blighted Streets and her side by side.

Since you asked, I'm not sure, but that never really crossed my mind. I'll go look at the card right now.

EDIT: Which one? Young girl or older woman? I don't see a striking resemblance between either.

The little girl, they both have a strand of hair going over the face. And Christopher said the little girl on Blighted Streets will be returning in a significant way. What's more significant than a giant woman with Thorathian DNA?

Huh. Fair enough. I see your thoughts, and I give you a "it could be true."

Could it be possible that the young girl is "The Center", rather than the Matriarch like we've been speculating on other topics? Because really, who would take a young girl and just decide "You know what? She could use some alien DNA."

But I'm not dismissing your thoughts.

If someone accurately guesses who the little girl on Blighted Streets is in the next five posts, I will verify the accuracy of your guess.

Guise

Edit: Back to the drawing board on that theory.

Nope! (This does not count as one of the five posts.)

Only four left? Hang on guys, don't waste these guesses. Let's discuss things before we submit our answers for approval. Don't jump the gun. We can't let this opportunity go by.

EDIT: We need to discuss things in another thread so we don't lose guesses! Meet me somewhere else!

And fine! She is "The Center!"

You realize that totally counts as the five post! Three left, 2 after this one. I am guessing Sky-Scrapper.

She is not The Center. 

She is not Sky-Scrapper.

I am going to go have dinner, but you have two guesses left. Best of luck to you.

Alrighty- heres a formal guess!

I submit that she is a young Cassandra Lilya, later to be known as Ermine!

the reasoning:

She appears to have affluent parents, so she could be from high society.

The flavor text suggests that this is from the past, as Mr Fixer (Slim) walked away.  This makes me believe that this happened during his self-imposed retirement from being a hero.

Being robbed could have turned her hair white? (OK, thats weak)

Being robbed could have taught her that anyone can take from anyone else, and that maybe she should be the one doing the taking...

The red-haired woman is wearing a black and white speckled fur.  Ermine fur is white, often with black bits.

This one's not a guess, but a question: Has she appeared -- with a name attached, so we could actually POSSIBLY guess her -- in the game up through Vengeance?

Welp, you might as well guess now because the post still counts.

No, it wasn't a guess.

Fine... If I HAVE to make a guess along with that, then let me know before you answer and I'll take the question back.

I'm too late to get in on the guessing, but in case Christopher is feeling generous, I'll throw in a guess anyway (which one of the last five posters may steal and edit into their post anyway, so that it counts).

Is she Tantrum?

More specifically, someone who geeks out intensely over ridiculous things.

That did indeed help.  Going and making a thread now…

Braithwhite is one hundred percent correct. For several of the correct reasons.

Celebrate!

Okay, can you confirm whether or not this white-haired girl is the same one seen on Vigilance?

Nope.

No she's not, or no you cannot confirm?  (Please don't answer "yes" or "one of those" or something comparably smartass.)

Narp?

Yarp?

I'm beginning to believe Christopher is part Vorlon or Aes Sedai.

Greywind, are you saying someone needs to make a custom Kosh deck where all the flavor text is cryptic, obscure quotes from Christopher?

Its rather unsettling that you call the creator of this game an effective smart ass. Its also unsettling that you ever believe he will do anything other than be infuriatingly vague to keep us guessing, because us discovering things for ourselves is one of his favorite passtimes

Also, given the way you phrased that, that will pretty much put Christopher off answering any further questions at all in this thread, so…  yeah. 

Hooray for guessing correctly! We are totally awesome!

I love us. We are great. Let's just enjoy ourselves.

Commence celebration.

Celebration complete.

Hey, why would you celebrate without me?

You were supposed to celebrate during the time it took you to reach the last line in that post!

Damn it, Ronway.

Hint. Ermine is older than Wraith. Wraith is an adult by the time Legacy becomes Iron Legacy.

Im guessing most likely that girl is The Idealist.

Telling someone "Don't be a smart ass" (with a "please" even) is the exact opposite of saying they currently are a smart ass.

Also, given the way you phrased that, that will pretty much put Christopher off answering any further questions at all in this thread, so…  yeah.

He could answer "I refuse to answer" or something to that effect easily enough; I'm just asking him not to be coy about it with cutesy non-answer answers.

Yarp

The little girl on Blighted Streets is not the same little girl on Vigilance. But, seriously, you all know that. I mean, there's a huge pile of time between those two arts. 

So, there's your non-cutesy answer.

Which is a shame, because I do cutesy DAMN well.

(don't guess the Idealist, he's already said it isn't her!)

Cuter than a frilly pink princess dress adorned with sugar canes, sparkles, and teddy bears (which may or may not be the End of All, as teddy bears tend to be).

Now that is how I will imagine your online persona.

This shall be ingrained unto the minds of all.

Cutesy please.  I was holding onto the hope that they were the same.

As for Huge Pile of Time, when is Rook City set?  I was thinking at most 5 years between them.  Pauline is 18 in the Legacy Bio, when is the time where one of them dies?

Even if she is 21 when she dies, how many years does it take Legacy to go down hill, the flavor text makes it seem pretty quick, at least to me.

I was thinking the start was a year or two from the event that would kill a Parsons, and Iron Legacy would have consolidated power within 2 years.  The girl would be 3 years older at that point, which with the visions we are given of her, they could be.

This is just my thought process, letting you know that I have no clue how time is apparently moving in this game's progression.

Card Art wise time doesnt matter - some are from earlier and some are from later  - the comic progression charts this comic progression over 50+ years of comics, with probably most comics happening within a 5 year  span in-comic timeline, and a couple of flashbacks (like Blighted Streets) from before, and many forward marches (Mists of Time, Precog, ect)

The picture from Blighted Streets is from the past.

Is Golem Unity's incap side Con?

I always read these answers a bit snarky (have never met Christopher so I can't know if that is how I should) but it always amuses me.

PAX East will fix that.

Or will it?  Mwahahahaha!

Ha. Be prepared. Also, come say hi to me and my bf at PAX! I'll be the exhausted Sidekick.

I understand everyone is super hush-hush about this non-promo promo, and I get that nobody wants to share the photo (ala Christopher's intructions,) but can I at least know what property the cross-over was supposed to be with?

Kingkiller Chronicle

Thanks!

I've actually never heard of it; time to do some research with Prof. Wikipedia, lol.

They're really fantastic books. If you haven't read them yet, you're in for a treat.

Wiki Update

http://sotm.wikidot.com/edition:sentinel-tactics

and

http://sotm.wikidot.com/edition:sentinel-tactics-uprising

are created and populated. Young Legacy (Beacon), Visionary, and The Operative pages have been updated with Sentinel Tactics information, and the edition section of all ST heroes has been updated to link to Tactics FoF and Uprising. 

As more information is released, ill update the pages. I can't wait for Omnitron V information.

Updated with Prime Wardens

THere is a LOT of artwork speculation and comic book references that could be added, that I simply do not have the geek reference cred to know. If you guys know, please update those reference pages!

Added EALabs and Revo Corp to the group pages. Help update those reference pages folks!

http://sotm.wikidot.com/the-multiverse

I got my copy of tactics today and spent the evening getting Things Sorted.

Well there are a TON of new information about established characters on the SoTM universe. If you do not want this info spoiled then I recommend you stay away from the wiki, as starting tomorrow I’ll be updating!

Fair warning!

http://sotm.wikidot.com/group:the-citizens-of-the-sun

The Citizens got a lot of information about them in Tactics! Added to the Wiki!

And so did The Organization Underbosses!

http://sotm.wikidot.com/group:the-organization

I TOLD YOU DAWG

I TOLD YOU ABOUT REVOCORP

(it keeps happening!)

Fun updates.  Thanks, lynkfox.

Got the incap art I have up on the wiki.

Still waiting for WotC heroes, Prime Wardens, Kvothe, SST, and KNYFE Rogue (i know many of those are already up and available, but Adam was kind enough to send me good quality images (without the incap cells) on them to put on the wiki, so he should hopefully send me more soon!

Not so sure about that. The guy on Final Dive doesn't really look much like The Seer. Not to mention the markings on his face are not there.

yeah only put it up because of the achievement, but ... with a kinda ...e h?

I don’t know how or when the prime wardens and KNYFE incap art finally got up, but to whoever put it there thank you.

Lynkfox put it up yesterday after the confirmations that people were receiving preorders started to come in. Kind of like I did with the spoiler sheet.

You’re welcome!

Style updates to Hero and Villain pages. Environments will follow, eventually. Sleepy.

I saw that.  They look good!  (That said, it's weird when you refresh the page and the style changes out from under you.)

Updated the Character References page. Anyone got time, check it over and let me know if I made any mistakes (or just fix em :P) or if i made any mistaken connections

I like what you've done with the heroes page. Any chance anyone can make thicker lines to separate each hero? Or shade every other hero row slightly?

That... should be possible. Ill look into it.

The Haka Row is messed up

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You caught me in the middle of updating it. Should be fixed already.

Okay

Doing some work on the wiki today, I didn't like how Blade was in 2 places, and yet we've got the Tactics information only in one place.

So i combined the two Baron Blade pages into one, 

http://sotm.wikidot.com/villain:baron-blade

Question for form goers (as I will be doing this for Ambuscade, Plague Rat, and The Operative, and in the future the new version of Aminia Twain)

should it also be done with the Promo's? - Should i combine promo cards onto the main hero page to keep all the information centralized with less spread? Like move the Mad Bomber Blade bio info onto the Baron Blade page as well? Perhaps just leaving a listing of promotional versions on the 'Villains' listing page, but no seperate page for each?

and the same for Heroes?

I would certainly like main bios, promo bios , and tactic bios on the same page.   Not sure how you want to arrange the images for those.  

I think keeping the promos with the characters they are for would be best.

You can take a look at what it looks like on the Baron Blade page

http://sotm.wikidot.com/villain:baron-blade

ill get the villains done today, but hero promo combining will have to wait, i think

I like everything in one place as well.

Awesome job as always man

I like the setup on one page as seen on the Baron Blade page.   Great job as always

That looks excellent!

Does the wiki mention if the card art is based on a Sentinel fan? 

This is brilliant, and it also helps to provide a clearer timeline of the multiverse!

For some of the cards, yes it does mention if it’s based on a fan, in the references sections. I left it up to people whose card art it is if they wanted that known or not .

Thanks all, I’ll work this weekend on moving promo heroes over to the main pages as well.

Some remarks for the wiki:

-K.N.Y.F.E.'s incapacitated art seems to be a reference to X-Men (2nd run) #25, by Scott Lobdell and Andy Kubert, when Magneto removes the adamantium from Wolverine's skeleton. Since Citizen Dawn is Sentinels Comics' Magneto...

-Am I the only one who sees the Sentinels as a mix between the Fantastic Four and the original Doom Patrol (rather than the Avengers, as stated on the wiki)? The family pattern was found in the Doom Patrol too (Beast-Boy being adopted by Mento and Elasti-Girl), and the Patrol was much more of a band of misfits that the FF (which seems to fit with Writhe, who also looks a bit like Negative-Man, or with the Idealist's somehow disturbing origin)...

Who knows, for what we know, Caleb could be a Chief-like bearded man in a wheelchair mentoring the team... 

Or he could be some technical genius, about to invent some gadget which will allow him to join the team (like Mento)... In Tactics timeline!

Go forth and add your thoughts my friend! If you need help with wiki syntax just let me know!

All the hero promo's have been moved onto their appropriate hero pages. This means Beacon gets her own hero pages now!

Also, 

http://sotm.wikidot.com/promos

linked from the sidebar, for easy printing purposes of all the promo's

Though I haven't been able to find images for Skinwalker or Agent of Gloom...

Try here.

How about the incap side for the hero promos?

They are there, on the right side. Under the other incap.

You may need to hard refresh the page.

I believe he was asking if you had the incap sides on the promos page.

oh duh. Duh duh duh.

Ill get that up this weekend

Incaps up for what I could find. Could not find individual good images for KNYFE Rogue agent or the Prime Wardens, if you know where they are I'll put em up!

Killswitch, you beautiful bugger you! Keep up the great work! I'm very busy today with wedding planning stuff, so thanks for updating the wiki allday! I added some images, fixed some links, and I still can't figure out where the hell that extra --] is coming from on the villains page, but I'll find it eventually!

You are AWESOME and thanks for helping out!

I tried to help out a little bit as well, but I'm not as good at it as Killswitch is.

No problem! It's a code I'm not familiar with so I made some rookie mistakes (a Bugbear page with the wrong address) and a few formatting errors, but I did my best to get everything similar to existing pages! I also don't know how to handle image uploading, or else I would have done that as well.

I'm learning HTML at the moment, so that's what I know the most. This code is similar, but not quite what I'm used to.

took care of that extra page, glad you figured it out!

And Arcanus, thank you very much as well! I love it!

So long have I been the major updater I'm glad to have others helping out. Looks like someone figured out the image uploading. I may do a few formating updates to keep things all in line with every page, but ive got a lot of that to do anyways across all the pages (i'm a sticker for that :P)

I'm not a huge fan of Wikidot's syntax. If it wasn't a huge huge project I'd convert it all to a Media wiki and see about hosting it somewhere else other than wikidot. I don't like the way wikidot handles images or other such things, and it's limited in some of CSS/HTML coding you can actually do,  but when you need something free...

someday I'll have time to convert the whole shebang to a custom Mediawiki format... someday... (and get GtG to host it on their site! :P)

I literally just figured out image uploading. It's all sort of a wonky system, I'll agree. I don't think the code bothers me too much at this point. Heck, if we changed to another format I'd probably already get used to this haha. It's just a matter of looking at what's already there and applying it to other places.

I'm just glad to help! :)

There's image uploading?

I just copied the urls of the images in the reveal pages, and pasted them into the page where the images went.  Should I have been doing something else?

Well, that was what I would have eventually resorted to but I wanted to find a way to host them on the site and link them internally.

To upload, go to the top right corner where it says "other tools > manage files" and click "upload from your computer." I think this only works for its own page, but it's possible you could use the same image elsewhere.

Yeah, and I fixed the ones of yours that I found that were externally linked. Better to keep it all internal just in case!

I may slowly start fiddling with mediawiki on my own system to set it up, the syntax is just so much more elegant than This crap. but that may be because I first learned wiki edditing on that system!

So, I looked at the Nemesis Chart page (http://sotm.wikidot.com/nemesis-chart) and noticed the Nemesis were added for VotM. Are they speculation (based on bios), or confirmed?

They got confirmed on twitter by Christopher 

Do you have a link(s)? I might have missed them…

If need be we can cite the confirmation via links to his Twitter. I didn't even know that page existed! I'll keep that in mind.

That would be great! I was just confused, and maybe missed something due to a brain lapse or just not being a devoted enough fan! But I'll look through his twitter, scouring for the information.... !

https://twitter.com/xTheKillswitch/status/570709948675571712

Here is the source for the six that I asked about.

Thanks! You are awesome!

So, I have Mangrove (Tactics) and Renegade  listed on the Villains page under the Tactics section. Craig in his update post had them under the Heroes. Anyone good at poking Christopher (or at PAX right now and reading in downtime) want to find out which they are for certain? They both strike me as villinous with restrictions, but maybe they are considered heroes?

They're obstacles to the For Profit team so out of that set they would be considered heroes.

The thing about Tactics I see

Is that instead of two sides there are three

There's the bad and the good

and the misunderstood

It's much less a dichotomy

I agree that since they seem to be in opposition to For Profit, that makes them heroes, since there really isn't a third category (unless we want to make one).

The Good, The Bad, and The Awesome.

That last category contains all characters.

Except Siegebreaker and Cursed Acolyte, they refuse to be in the same category.

Wasn't Proletariat already in the third category of what he feels at the moment, he was announced that way at least

I added Deck Information for all the Heroes that were missing it.   I'm not the best at describing the art so feel free to rewrite the art description for the cards

I added a description to Major Slay. I hope it's alright for me to jump in. There's a few other card references referencing obscure comic characters I like that I want to add mentions to-- should this be vetted before I add input? I've never participated in a wiki before.

I think you're fine with adding information.  I'm pretty sure the main page of the wiki asks for people to add any information they can.  

Deck information for all of the villains have been added.  Once again if you have a better art description feel free to update it.  

I've added deck information for the environments that were missing it.    Again, if anyone wants to update the description of the artwork feel free to do so.   

*sniff*. You guys are awesome.

I hope you guys don't mind me adding the deck info for the villains in the WotC expansion. :P

Nope.   I had been meaning to put them in.   So thanks for getting those.  

I got the basic stuff all added for Villains.

99.9% done

All the titles/hp/incap/nemesis stuff for promo's and new villains.

All the new mini-nemesi

All the art references page updated.

Minor HP Targets and Minor characters updated

Nemesis Chart updated (though don't have an icon for Greazer yet)

environments updated

some group pages updated.

Anything else... well i probably missed a few things here or there and of course, tons of pages still need Deck Information. As always, feel free to contribute!

Thanks Lynkfox.   

http://sotm.wikidot.com/edition:oblivaeon

This added.

Villains, Heroes, Environment, Game pages added to have the OblivAeon subsections. 

http://sotm.wikidot.com/sotm-arg

The Summary of the ARG reveal. Still needs a few bits added if anyone has the time to crawl that Tim Cosing thread and finish added some of the parts.

OblivAeon villain page linked, but not yet created.

Oh, and if anyone has the time / desire to head through the stories revealed with the ARG and add them to the appropriate hero / villain pages as needed that would be awesome.

Added a central page for all storyarcs

http://sotm.wikidot.com/the-comics

Added Deck Information for every deck in VotM and the mini expansions Chokepoint and Celestial Tribunal

changed 'Promo' To 'Variant'

Added Scholar of the Infinite, Desperate Prey Naturalist, Best of times Chrono Ranger, and the Adamant Sentinels to the Promo page (now the Variant page)

Is someone recording the weekly scenario storylines from the digital game? I can't access the long versions from inside the game itself. The link doesn't work.

What long versions?

Do you mean the flavour text on the side of the screen when you click the green/red weekly one shot link? It's still there (on PC).

This week there was a link to a longer version of the flavor text. Sadly, I couldn't click on it on my iPad.

That post links to this https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/wraith-razors-edge-8193 which is fan fiction by Braithwhite

oh! That's awesome! Congratulations to Braithwhite!

Added environment descriptions that are posted in the Video Game for Wrath of the Cosmos.  Also, F6 members were given bios and I have updated AZ, Bunker, Tachyon, Tempest, Unity, and Wraith pages with that info but keep in mind it is not a great future considered Iron Legacy took over.  

Hm. I didn't see the F6 bios when I went looking the other day.

If you're on the iPad you need to download the 1.8.1 update for it and redownload the season one pass.   Other platforms should have had it when Wrath of the Cosmos was released.  

Is there anyone who has all the info Christopher recently gave out on the art streams and AMAs that could put them on the wiki? I feel like there is a ton of information there that isn't on the wiki. Like who Guise and Con are. 

Just a quick question. Did we ever put all the AMA's and Twitch answers in one document or location? I was gonna dig up the Guise identity and add that to the wiki (my first wiki anything) but I'm having trouble finding the answer in question.

Just a heads up. Im working on a major overhaul of the wiki, migrating it to mediawiki (the wiki formst used on wikipedia, which i have more experience with and feel is much more powerful than wikidot)

Hopefully this wont take me too long, but im doing some formating and design changes as well to clean it up and make it prettier.

If you update anything on the wiki over the next couple of weeks, ill try to make sure i snag it before i open up the new version, but if i miss it just be aware that you might need to copy it over yourself.

Excited about the move, cause mediawiki is far more design powerful, and having fun doing it!

The new hero promos from obliveon ill get onto the new wiki, so dont worry about that if you were thinking about it.

Is this still free of charge to you or is this costing you money?  I assume I'll have to make a new account with mediawiki to edit pages once it's up.

Just 4 bucks a month, which I have no trouble swallowing. I still have some lovely passion for this wiki project, and MediaWiki is far more prevalant and popular as the defacto 'standard' wiki, which is why I want to get it onto that platform, plus so much more I can do with it.

4 bucks gives 10k hits a month (if we hit that, i'll be surprised) and 10g of storage (over the 300mg the free site gave - which we had almost hit. With all the new artwork it have to be upgraded one way or another, so might as well go to the better software.

Once the site is up (it will be independant) you'll need an account on the site itself to edit, yeah. Media wiki's are independant of each other, most of the time. (though there are a few services that host them like wikidot did for the wikidot syntax)

You are awesome, lynkfox -- greatly appreciate it! 

I second that motion

I call the motion to a vote.

I move the vote be by acclamation.

I vote for Harvey Dent

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

Anyone want a sneak peak?

Looks good.  

Yeah, that listing screen has a cool layout. :D

Beautiful!

I was going to make the OblivAeon nemesis logo for the wiki, but I was looking at the foil cards and noticed that all the logos were reworked slightly. They no longer have the bit of shiny glare drawn on the upper left corner (which makes sense since they are foils with built-in shine), and the graphics were reworked slightly. 

Lynkfox, do you want me to make the OblivAeon nemesis symbol in the old style so it matches the other ones? (It might be slightly different to the real one once it is released) or wait until OblivAeon comes out?

Are we also configuring the wiki for mobile devices? It's still desktop mode when looking on my phone

Either one, as you wish and feel is easier/better - I'd go with whats whatever you like best.

Also, if you have time / ability to do a Greazer Clutch one, we're missing his special nemesis icon. Thanks for all your hard work!

It should work much better once it's moved to Media Wiki. I don't know if there is a specific bit of code for mobile on Media Wiki or not, but I will look into it. That is a very good thing to bring up. 

(edit update: I looked into it. Media Wiki still doesn't have built in mobile viewing functionality, though there is an extension that has been released that might work. I'll fiddle around with it and see if I can get it to work or not.)

As for it still being in desktop mode, yep, sotm.wikidot.com will continue to be in desktop mode because I'm not updating that, I'm making a brand new one, hosted privately

 It should work much better once it's moved to Media Wiki. I don't know if there is a specific bit of code for mobile on Media Wiki or not, but I will look into it. That is a very good thing to bring up.  As for it still being in desktop mode, yep, sotm.wikidot.com will continue to be in desktop mode because I'm not updating that, I'm making a brand new one, hosted privately :)

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Answered my quetsion perfectly! CAn't wait!

I'd love a version that matches the older ones for when I'm making Oblivaeon accessories, if possible. 

Will do!

working hard on the transfer. Heroes done. Major Villain Characters done (omg so many minor villain characters). Lots of the group pages done, and other pages done. Its like i have that damn data entry job again. 

sneak peak!

Looking good so far. 

Looks beautiful. 

Thanks, lynkfox! 

when will the wiki be done ?

Never? kidding, because a wiki is never really done.

The migration… Probably another week to 2, depends. Minor villians are quicker to move, cause there is less to fix/upload/change, environments will be the same. Then the group pages need to be finished, and all the random little pages that have ended up in there somewhere. Things like the ARG page, the comis pages, ect.

The meat of it is done though, in the Heroes and Major Villains.

Lynkfox you are truly the hero deck we deserve and need.

Poking the Forumites.

I need some information:

What date did the Villains preorder event start?

Mini Expansions: When where they revealed and for what stretch rewards?

(Ie: Chokepoint, Villains of the Multiverse Pre Order at x preorders)

This is stuff that i've always ment to dig for, and never really remembered too xD

It was 1/19/2015 and seen here https://greaterthangames.com/content/the-villains-of-the-multiverse-battle-for-broken-city-and-for-profit-preorder-is-live

Mini Expansions: When where they revealed and for what stretch rewards? (Ie: Chokepoint, Villains of the Multiverse Pre Order at x preorders) This is stuff that i've always ment to dig for, and never really remembered too xD

The mini expansions weren't revealed yet but were already included for preorders of VotM from the start.   This is the snippet from the same page https://greaterthangames.com/content/the-villains-of-the-multiverse-battle-for-broken-city-and-for-profit-preorder-is-live

On 2/25/2015 Christopher announced that they were doubling the environments from two to four in VotM https://greaterthangames.com/content/eighth-reveal-environments-of-the-multiverse

sweet, thanks powerhound

and in case i wasnt clear (cause i probably wasnt) i mean alllllll the mini expansions. From Unity through Benchmark. xD

and update on progress. I have the day off (dentist appointment in a few hours, ugh) so minor villains are finished, box editions are done (including Prime War and Rise of the Ennead). Left to do:

Environments, ARG Event, Comics, random other pages. Update Hero/Villain pages to include notice they have a Prime War or Rise of the Ennead slot.

getting a bit tired of it right now (Been doing it for the last 3 hour or so) so going to break, probably will work on Environments tomorrow night (when the wife is at class) and finish up this weekend perhaps. Maybe next week. Depends on how much Deus Ex sucks me in.

After environemnts, arg, and comics are done I'll probably open it up to any and all to start getting the bugs fixed - broken links, miss spellings, ect. And adding anything else that needs/is found. 

Benchmark and Stuntman are easy they were revealed  2/9/2016 on the first KS update for OblivAeon https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-oblivaeon/posts/1487593

Chokepoint and Celestial Tribunal were officially revealed 3/2/2015 https://greaterthangames.com/content/an-environment-and-a-villain-mini-expansion

Guise was officially revealed with 1500 preorders for Wrath on 8/11/2014 here https://greaterthangames.com/content/an-environment-and-a-villain-mini-expansion

Wager Master was revealed with 1000 preorders for Wrath on 8/6/2014 here https://greaterthangames.com/content/over-1000-copies-preordered-introducing-wager-master

Omnitron IV was revealed with 500 preorders for Wrath on 8/6/2014 here https://greaterthangames.com/content/well-over-500-copies-preordered

For the others I'll likely have to dig through prior KS I assume. 

Unity reveal was on 4/27/2012 during Infernal Relics KS https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-infernal-relics-and-en/posts/216073

$75K for Infernal Relics KS was Ambuscade revealed 5/2/2012 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-infernal-relics-and-en/posts/219338

$175K stretch goals for ST KS was Final Wasteland revealed on 11/29/2012 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-shattered-timelines/posts/358518

$100K stretch goal for ST KS was the Scholar revealed on 11/19/2012 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-shattered-timelines/posts/352248

$80k stretch goal for ST KS was Silver Gulch revealed on 11/14/2012 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-shattered-timelines/posts/349282

$60K stretch goal for ST KS was Miss Information ( revealed as the the Assistant) on 11/4/2016 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-shattered-timelines/posts/342367

This should be the last one.   The Void Guard mini expansion revealed 2/10/2016 as the $500K stretch goal for OblivAeon here https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-oblivaeon/posts/1488366

Awesome work Powerhound! thanks!

omg. omg... omg... IT'S DONE!!

http://sentinelswiki.com/

http://sentinelswiki.com/

http://sentinelswiki.com/

Go forth and fix all my mistakes!

(oh, the Variants page with pictures of all the variants still needs done)

Cool beans.  I'll give it a look tonight.   

aw yeah! :D Thanks for all your hard work!

It seems Adam and GtG were pretty generous with the images as I don't recall seeing a lot of these before.  

Nicely done. :)

Well, the one major problem with a domain of our own, means we combat spammers.

It was going OK, but last night we got hit hard by a spam bot creation, and had over 10000 script executions, our daily limit. The site wont be affected until we hit 150% then it would be temporarily shut down for the day for exceeding limits.

Well, thats not good that its spam doing that. So I shut off account creation. There is a note on the front page on how to create an account ont he Wiki if you want one.

In other news, if anyone has the time and motivation, please contact me to discuss becoming a mod on the wiki to help clean that stuff up, and to be available to create new accounts.

That's terrible.  Glad it didn't take the site down altogether.  

Yeah, I was going to recommend something about that; there's extensions and settings out there to do things like force new accounts to require admin approval, allow only users to create or edit pages, add CAPTCHAs, and such.

I’ve added the captcha already (or thought I did… The settings are in there and the script in the right folder… I think…)

Site got suspended for the day for overage anyways, so that’s that. It will be back at 00:10 CDT.

For now account creation will be limited to admins and I’ll keep looking into extensions once it comes back up

In the battle against SPAM on the wiki, the following manuevers have been performed.

Play: Disable Account Creation - For the time being, all accounts can only be created by Admins. At the time of this post, that is Lynkfox and Powerhound (Sonvar), but UMX will be joining those ranks as soon as the site is back up.

Power: CAPTCHA! I thought I enabled it. The settings are all there.... except the one that tells the wiki to run the captcha script.... *headslam* well, ok. Thats been added. It is set for the time being as edits all require a captcha to process, but we are using the new google reCaptcha - which is, for the most part, invisible if you are already proven to google. You may or may not see it. We'll see how much it helps

Draw: New attempt: dns spam blacklisting, through a honeypot - I've enabled the DNS blacklist, which runs whenever an edit is made, and if the address of the editor is on a DNS honeypot blacklist, then it returns a 403/forbidden. 

When the site comes back up we'll see how that helps, and go about cleaning up the crap from the spambots. 

If any users experience difficulties in editing the site, let me know.  Honestly, the account creation disable is something I don't want, because it means a lot of extra work for moderators of the wiki, plus a lot of waiting for the people involved. But it is the first line of defense, because spam bots/users won't attempt to contact any of us to get an account created. However, hundreds upon hundreds of accounts were created last night, and not all of them have been blocked. They can still edit pages until they are blocked, and will be a potential threat - hence the captcha and the dns blacklisting.  Hopefully we'll get through cleaning up the site, and then move on and be able to remove a few of the restrictions (the account creation is the one I'm hoping for... but feel like it is a lost cause)

Such is the world we live in on the internet. 

When the site comes back up, in the morning I'll be adding a bit to the front page to direct potential new wiki users to this thread for processing of a new account.

Keep in mind that you can actually block entire ranges of IPs, which might help in quickly blocking more than one bad user until you can finish individually blocking everyone.

If you want to buy even more time at the cost of locking out legit edits for a time, you can also temporarily change user group permissions so only admins can edit anything at all until you're done, do all the blocking and deleting and reverting you need to do, then change things back.

Also, I might recommend switching to account confirmation, which might make things easier in that then the user does all the work of creation while you just confirm it once you're certain they're legit.

the dns honeypot block should help with that in a more automatic fasion. (ip range blocking)

also, account confirmation is enabled, or at least the setting that says 'require confirmation to edit' is there. And some spam bots have the ability to do that - that would explain why only about half of the bogus accounts actually create a page. ( $wgEmailConfirmToEdit = true; - is in the settings, just double checked to make sure it wasn't like the captcha!)

Sorry, I mean a setting that requires the admins to confirm an account, not the email confirmation (though the email thing at least helps a little).

Can you create an account for me on the Wiki? I can work on the Sentinel Tactics info. Username: neoadvent email: neoadvent89@gmail.com

You should get an email about it. 

I did, thanks. I’ll work a bit on it tonight after work.

Updated Sentinel Tactics Stats and Power Cards for AZ. Please take a look and let me know what you think.  If everything looks good I'll begin working on adding the other Hero and Villain information.  Link below.

http://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Absolute_Zero#Sentinel_Tactics:_Absolute_Zero

Look sgreat Neoadvent! Keep up the great work!

I keep meaning to figure out a good way to do the Tactics hit die charts.... I have a few ideas in mind, but I'll need time to think about it. Probably not till after christmas because of how busy work is around here.

A graphic may be the way to go. I was thinking about looking into that once I have all the heroes and villains updated.

if you want, I did some scans from the roll20 tactics board with hit and miss version of each number based upon scaned and spliced images from the cards themselves.

Awesome! If I have time this weekend (on six days thru Christmas) I’ll look into figuring out a template for ease of use. Something like {tactics:1,3} automatically puts out 1-6 with 1 and 3 as misses. That’s my idea for it anyways

oh. Wow. that was super easy to do, at least far easier than I expected.

Here's the instruction of how to use it

http://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Template:TacticsHit

Oh, and account creation is temporarily re enabled. Hopefully we'll see an improvement with the other improvements.

cool. I got the amount of die thrown for the Tactics attack to be included in that template. Check out AbZero's tactics cards for example

Sweet!

I thought I'd take a stab at adding clarification information to a hero's page on the wiki. I did Bunker, because he was on the first page and seemed pretty straightforward. Before I do any more, I figure'd I'd show this one and see what you thought about format: http://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Bunker#Clarifications

Two thoughts right away:

1. The hero pages are definitely going to need a table of contents at the top with all these sections now!
2. When we do this for a hero, villain, or environment, we're going to have to remember to search the Fireside Chat thread not just for that hero, etc.'s name, but also all the cards in their deck.

I saw what you did, and love it!

I made a few changes, upped the level of the Clarifications header, dropped it below the Sentinel Tactics Power cards level. Seems to make sense. Also, pulled the clarifications onto their own page that is included into Bunker (like the References) and adjusted the formating.

Yeah. ToC is something I'm working on, on the side. I'm learning more about wiki code than I ever have before (which is totally a blast) and I'm close to being able to do a Character Template, that will work for any setup. I think I know what to do, and how to code it, I just need to have the time to do so.

When I do template the character pages, a) thats a ton of work to convert them, but eh, that's life :P and b) there will definitely be a ToC involved. They certainly have gotten much weightier since I started this project. 

The design is the tough part, but something will be found! There was a Redditor who was working on a alternate design for the Character pages, but seems to have dropped off. I'll probably be appropriating some of those ideas when I get into this fully, sometime after christmas.

If anybody else wants to consolidate clarifications onto individual pages, I pasted AAAAAALLLLLLLL of the Fireside chat items onto this wiki page:

http://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Clarifications

When you put a clarification onto an individual page for a character, if that clarfication did not involve any other characters, delete it from the to-do page. I did that for one of the Bunker items I moved (other Bunker items involved other characters!)

...I moved clarifications on the heroes from the start of the alphabet through Fanatic to their individual pages.

Expatriette needs some editing. She has three clarifications about Shock Rounds.

Whew! I just finished moving hero-specific clarifications onto their individual hero pages. That means, if you have a question about whether there was a Fireside Chat clarification on any particular hero (or card in their deck), you can now go straight to the wiki page for that hero!

Guise and Mister Fixer had a lot.

Villains and Environments are still to be done. I am gradually moving them off of this page to the individual pages. 

Many thanks, Trajector! Greatly appreciate it. 

Woohoo awesome

Ahh, the in-laws are watching football...

So, I'm basically done. I just need to make sure I didn't miss any on the general clarifications page and then reorganize that one to be a little more friendly for general clarifications, but I'm tired.

I have also not gone through all Spiff's rule notes yet.

But, at this point, every Hero, Villain, and Environment page should have a list of Fireside Chat clarifications at the bottom!

great! now were going to move all those individual pages we made (charactername/Clarifications) onto the same page with the same code thats on the character page... . just all of them at once. (Like the Master References Page). That way people can look at them either by character, or all at once, and we only have to edit one page if anything changes in the future

Yeah, something like this: http://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Clarifications

I did a little organizing today. With the whole list available at once, I'm not 100% sure about the formatting now, but I think this is at least good for collecting everything together by deck. Is there a wiki-way to keep level 3 headings out of the TOC?

Anybody want to incorporate Spiff's work? :)

I can try but I'm not sure when I'll have a huge amount of time to go through it yet.  

great!

And ... Great! we hit the monthly limits last night on executable commands on the server...

and not because of Spam... because you guys are just awesome! doing all that work is awesome!

Since the limits reset on the 1st, I'm not to worried about it at the moment, but if need be we'll upgrade. :)

Items that are still seemed valid from Spiff's FAQ are added as part of clarifications now for the various decks.   I did not add references to card changes in the Enhanced Edition though. 

I didn't see citations for the various rulings (i.e. links to how we know it's true directly from the designer's mouths).  I didn't include them in my clarifications initially but regretted it because people inevitably asked for proof that what I was saying was true.  Would be a shame to lose that traceability with the shift to the wiki.

If you had a citation in the FAQ on the individual deck rulings it's there.

Awesome.  I don't know what citationless section I was looking at before, but I found them.  Looks great.

The "Fireside Chat" sections come directly from that forum thread, and the section header is a link. There were so many bullets, I thought that was most efficient.

That was awesome work, Powerhound! This wiki is a great gameplay resource with all this info at our fingertips.

I've added the general items, Naturalist, Guise, and Setback stuff from the latest chat.

What do you think we should do with the Sentinels? They only have collective clarifications, but individual pages.

They probably should have one just for their group deck. 

what powerhound said. They have only 1 reference page that is shared between the four, they can have only 1 clarification page as well. When Fireside Chat stuff starts showing up for their Void Guard versions, they can each have one of their own for that.

All decks lists have been formatted. There may be some errors (some cards had the wrong text, there could be more). The Sentinels deck and Omnitron IV are missing the art.

I think I finished copying the Vengeance Fireside Chat updates to the wiki. I would appreciate some double-checking, though, if anyone has the inclination!

Got the Podcast pages up:

http://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Podcasts

Lot of work still needed on them, probably going to mess with the formating a bit and the colors, but I used a template so that will be easy.

If anyone wants to start doing Transcripts of the episodes and putting them up, feel free!

Christopher said they would find a way to make a transcript https://twitter.com/scletterspage/status/821499628478722052

Yep, but until that time if someone wants to do it themselves, they certainly can feel free too :)

Not sure if this is the right place to report an error, but in the references for Omnitron, the S-83 and S-84 appear to be reversed

I made the correction but you can make accounts to correct mistakes or add information.

LynkFox, it appears you have somehow logged into Powerhound’s account.

I disagree. 

Oh no! Moderator abuse!
I’m just happy my words are finally being repeated!

Lol

Just so its posted somewhere someone can see,

http://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Formatting_Guidelines

has a bunch of new ways to put up the various symbols for the game. H, Croc/Rhino/Gazzelle, Alien head, Spell Icons - just a simple easy little bit of wiki text and you have that symbol wherever you need it.

This is awesome that you all are doing this! I don't honestly see us being able to provide transcripts for the forseeable future (it is actually quite difficult and labor intensive!), so this is awesome for people who don't like to / can't listen.

FYI: I ran a script to block all accounts that have not made an edit (which is 1000s, 99.99% of them are attempted spammers). I whitelisted all that I knew were good accounts that hadn't made edits (like Rabit, MindWander, DPT, and a few others) but if you try and log in and find you are blocked, please just PM me your username or post here and one of the mods will get you unblocked.

Congrats lynkfox!

There was a subtle hint that it was official back in January when Paul made an edit to the Main Page.   He altered the title from "Welcome to the Unofficial Sentinels of the Multiverse Wiki!" to "Welcome to the Sentinel Comics Wiki!"

Seriously, how awesome is this?! 

To lynkfox and everyone else who has put so much time into the wiki, many thanks! I think this is a great recognition of all the work you've put into this. And it's well deserved! 

I am super excited about it too! Good work you all! And thanks for all of your support over the years :)

Thanks guys. Lots of work to be done, and lots of interesting ideas to implement, as I learn how to do them... oh boy. Hah! Thanks all

So you all know, we are working on a major overhaul of the layout. I got the group pages done tonight (or at least a version of it) and you can see what some of our ideas for the new format are on the hero group pages.

It's gonna be a slow process, but it's gonna look -awesome-

Awesome things are worth waiting for!

This is terrific, lynkfox! I’m happy I got to contribute a little.

Because jgarcia is so friggin awesome, we now have the Greazer Clutch icon and the OblivAeon icon that matches the rest of them (that he made, so that makes sense)

He also sent some really cool expansion custom logo's he uses for dividers, so I put them up on a page of their own for others to dl and use!

http://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Nemesis_Icons_and_Expansion_Dividers

these are HIGH QUALITY images, very large, very good.

Those expansion logos are really cool! :D

Thank you. I'll be working on some Villain logos too, namely Baron Blade and the Citizens of the Sun. 

I might try my hand on doing something for Dark Watch and Prime Warden even though they don't really have official logos like the Freedom Five. 

Just an FYI for everyone, I'll be out of town from thurs-the following weds (3/2/17-3/9/17) (gettin my suntan in the BAHAMAS!) so I won't be doing any wiki editing. I trust that Powerhound and the other moderators will keep the spam down, and hopefully nothing will go wrong when I'm out of internet connection.

Hopefully you guys can figure out the template for putting up new podcasts too :p

Sure nothing will go wrong while you're gone…

Hey,

I have few thoughts.

1)    Should we have a section for fan-art? There is at least one thread on the forums that feature this. We have a section for fan-created decks, Spiffs accessories, but nothing or the art. It could be nice.

2)    Since the Cauldron decks take up a lot of this section, could we potentially give its owns section on that page?

3)    Sotmwiki.com still exists, and unfortunately it shows up before sentinelswiki.com. Is there a way to fix this?

3) No, there is no way to change the google sorting. Time will change it, eventually. I did setup sotm.wikidot.com to only be a page that links to the new wiki.

2) Cauldron on CCGDrive thru is linked on the Fan Created page, but because this has become the Official Sentinel Comics Wiki, not the Sentinels of the Multiverse, that probably won't happen, unless Christopher et all decide they want to do that. Probably not, as they are approved, but not official content. The wiki is not for the card game anymore, but for the lore of the Sentinel Comics universe, and Cauldron isn't part of that. (actually, if you look on the Cauldron stuff, they were asked not to use the SentinelComics logo that is used on Hero Cards (right above health) and instead use their own, Action Comics logo. (A stylized A) - another reason why they probably wont ever been on the Sentinel Comics Wiki.

By the by, if someone wanted to set up their own wiki for Cauldron stuff, I would have no issue with helping that get started (even though I don't have or have ever used any of those cards, but they look interesting) and even linking to it.

1) Fan art - I'm... a bit warry about that. Mostly because of space. It can become really problematic really fast and cause a lot of bandwidth and hosting space issues quickly. If GtG wants to support that then we can certainly set it up, but that is in their pocket book now, not mine :P For the time being the Fan Created page links to the fan art thread here on the forums, which is acceptable I believe.

The exception is jagarcia's stuff, but thats cause it is in use on all the pages already.

good thoughts though!

Deleted 1777 spam accounts that had been cluttering up the system.

Unfortunately, in the process, one or two valid accounts might have been caught in the swing. This would be because the script used looks for accounts that have 0 edits.

If you've ever made an account on the Wiki and did not make any edits to any pages, your account has been removed from the database. Sorry!

When you make a new account, simply edit your user page (by clicking on your user name in the upper right hand corner, adding some things to the edit box, and saving the page) and that will do the trick, if you don't have some other edit you're doing already.

Next major project. Localization for different languages.

Suggestion for the Wiki:

Include the unlock conditions for the variants in the video game. Obviously, only when they are discovered or revealed.

Something we're definitely working on!

Got a new look for the Achivements and Challenges pages, plus a nifty Template for your User page to track your Achievements.

http://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Scorekeeping

Hi there! 

Sorry to pop in with something minor, but Wraith's page lists her Freedom Six variant as having 29 HP instead of 25. 

Thank you for your hard work! The wiki looks fantastic. 

You should "refresh" it never had 29......

This is just a thought, so feel free to ignore it, but would it be easier to read the character pages if the information from the 'Future' section of the podcast was included in the general character bio at the top of the page?

The Future stuff is generally the RPG and Tactics, which are going to be their own separate little tabs. Basically at some point every character will have a tab for each variant with full info (cards, bio, stats, cutscenes), RPG and Tactics tabs if applicable with their own info, and Deck/References/Clarifications tabs.

It's just been slow getting the template and CSS fully worked out because I've been kinda burnt out on... life in general, honestly. Also because it's seriously complicated.

It's eventually going to look something like this: https://twitter.com/jeysiec/status/826492733766369281/photo/1

Looks great, Jeysie!

Sweet! Thanks for the update.

Hi there! The Lonely Sand Person here. I'd like to help out on the wiki, if I may. (Using The Lonely Sand Person or TheLonelySandPerson as my user name, if possible.)

You can PM lynxfox or me with your email address to get an account made.  

I had a moment listening to The Naturalist's episode of The Letters Page when I was surprised and marvelling that he was running around with Akash'Thriya before the Omnitron IV fight event. I started to think of timelines - always dangerous with this game!

So I started in on reformatting and adding to the timeline page: https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Timeline I figured that, in the spirit of The Letters Page, I wouldn't put any dates on it, but just list events in order. As we learn more things from more episodes, we can add to it.

Lynkfox, can I get some help putting one of those awesome header bars with buttons, like on the Achievements page?

Fanaka, I didn't want to get rid of your hard work, but I also don't really have time tonight to reformat it all, so you just get your own section for now.

Anyone else, care to add material from prior episodes?

Chryaetoseagel, sorry about the delay - there was a snafu with the settings. Powerhound should now have the proper permissions, and will get you set up if you've already sent him your email. If not, he'll drop the email for me in the wiki moderator forum and I'll get to it tonight. So sorry about that! The things we do to combat spam, sigh

Its actually, surprisingly easy! xD

put this at the very top of the page
 

<div id="grouppageHero">

For all the sections you want to be their own tabs, use just 1 =, so like this:

=Card Game Timeline=

and at the very bottom of the page put (or at least, at the end of everything you want in tabs. Everything after this will be outside the tabed section

<headertabs />

thats it!

You should have an email with your credentials.   

I just realized that for the My Turn spreadsheet, I linked to the pictures in the old wiki, and now they are gone.

I wondered what happened to those. :O

My Turn 2 is close to done, but if you want to use the images I have ( The Multiverse - Statistics), I've already done all the work of resizing them and giving them a consistent naming scheme.

I'll add VotM images later today, though they won't appear on my page until after the next VG stats update.

Thanks! Not sure if I will add them now, but now I know they are there for the next event.

Thanks! The headertabs tag is what I was missing.

… Didn’t mean to embed that in the quote.

After the Chrono-Ranger episode, I was thinking about how the Timeline wiki page should have a way for us to indicate how sure we are that events are in the right order. So I invented a new column headed "Anchor," and we put a mark in that column when we are certain that two events are in the right place relative to each other.

So far this page really includes Naturalist through Chrono-Ranger stuff, because I haven't gone back to listen to all the previous Letters Pages - fun as that might be. I'd welcome additional contributions!

Thats nice!

Hey lynkfox, I was wondering if you or someone else could help me set up an account for the wiki. Thanks!

no problem. PM me an email address and I'll get you set up.

So, the Letters page is getting a lot of Spoiler stuff, that is making its way onto the wiki: Here is some code that will let you make a collapsible section on the wiki

https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Formatting_Guidelines#Spoilers

if that is too confusing, there is an extension I can install that basically lets you do <spoiler> - But I haven't installed it yet. If others want that more than the built in code, let me know

Thanks for including the spoiler stuff code. I'll use it in my initial LP summary section entries from here on.

I've been meaning to do it for a while, cause it is going to be needed a lot!

A very requested feature has been Mobile friendly:

So 've added a mobile friendly extension. I say 'friendly' but its not perfect. It helps for mobile views of the site, but some stuff is still off and we'll be working on fixing it as we can - some of that may take a while. you can always switch to the desktop version of the site by scrolling to the bottom of any page.

Because we have been using the Tabs format for a lot of new pages, that doesn't seem to translate well to the mobile version. I'm working on solutions, but I'm not sure what the best options are yet. We'll figure it out where we can. 

I just found this page. Holy crud! Lynkfox, was that you?

Also, where'd that Legacy cover come from?

Its in the Villain Challange pdf, along with other cool covers here.

Actually, no it was originally done by another forumgo-er, unfortunately I don't remember who and the name was lost when I moved the wiki. It still needs a lot of work, but it has some good start stuff on it.

I want to join your Crusade (I wanna help edit all the La Comodora's none sence) How Do I sign up.

While visiting the Wiki, I noticed that the Letters Page Podcast lists a 'transcript' tab for each episode, and not of them read NYR. Not yet ready?

Was the idea for someone to create on a word-for-word transcript of each episode? If so, I was planning on re-listening to all of the podcasts very soon, and I would be more than willing to transcribe them for the Wiki, if that was not already being done. 

The intent is to have a transcript but nothing is set for generating those.  If you are able to do so it would welcomed.  

Yep, that was the idea. Word for word transcripts. Big job, but you ar emore than welcome to do so!

speedyolrac, if you haven't yet, PM one of the wiki mods (Say, myself! Or Powerhound!) with an email address and your desired username. We'll get you set up

Tried to update the Podcasts page a smidge: https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Podcasts

Mostly I wanted to put an upcoming schedule somewhere on the page and make the lists of episode pages sortable by topic and hero/other/villain categories.

Jeysie is tribute to wiki!

Looks good!

I'm working on redesign. Its a slow process. If you want to comment, you can do so on the discussion page for this wiki page: https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=User:Lynkfox/Sandbox or you can here xD

Notes: Formatting of Meta/Comic Books page still to be decided.  Somethings (like the different types of legacy pictures (just character, full card, just title and character) ) are there for experimental purposes. 

Looking for comments like: Text color is too light! The boxes for the Tactics page are all over the place!

So, Ambuscade's page says that he's an amalgamation of Kraven, Cable and Bishop. About Bishop, it says he can "absorb, store and project energy."

Except he doesn't do any of those things. His Letters Page quicknotes says nothing about absorbing and specifically says he can't project it. What he does is charge objects with energy that then explode -- which is Gambit's power, not Bishop's. Could someone go in and fix that?

You could make an account and do it yourself 

Looks like someone already has.

‘Twas me

We couldn’t tell it was you at first, because you have a new image!

Yeah… I was trying to figure out who this guy with Powerhound's username was!

Okay folks! I'm in the process of updating to the new style! There will be bugs along the way, so if you come across some horribly mangled pages in the next few weeks don't worry, I'm probably aware and currently working on whatever bug caused it.

You can see the first conversion to the new style at 

https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Absolute_Zero

and

https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Akash%27Thriya

Some things to note:

Each Charachter page will now has a dynamic updated listing of what podcasts they've been in! Click on the purple Meta tab to see.

You can mouse over the images on the first two tabs of character cards for their Powers/Incaps.

There is a base image we can use for cards that there isn't an image for (and that lets me easily find what images I still need to go get from Adam...)

This is all in preperation for getting to OblivAeon. My hope is to have every character page converted over by the time OblivAeon starts to ship. We'll see if that happens or not... *laughs*

Let me know if you find any bugs or what not.

Oh, that looks cool. :D I was a little confused as to why F5 AZ wasn't on that first page, but that's because we don't have a good view of his non-foil art, right?

thats exactly right.  

I was looking for the blurb on Supply and Demand Benchmark, and it seems to have disappeared with the new format?  I can't find it anymore.

You can find it here https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Benchmark/Lore

Hm, the main Benchmark page should be pulling from that, but it's not showing up.  I assume it's an error in the templating, but it's a complicated template and I'm no expert in them.

No it’s not pulling from there anymore. I probabaly forgot to move it when I made the new setups. I’ll look into it in a few hours

I've been reading wiki pages, and was curious if someone could help me set up an account.

Also, what are wiki rules? Can someone give me a link or something.

PM myself or Powerhound your desired username and a Email and we'll get you set up with a temp password and an account.

There aren't really any rules, per say? There are format guidelines on the left nav column, they give an example of what a specific thing should look like. Is there anything in particular you were hoping to add or just want to help?

( https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Formatting_Guidelines )

There is always lots of work to be done - No one has started transcribing podcasts yet (hah) and that information in the podcasts needs to be integrated into the rest of the wiki as well (The new format has kind of a place for it, under the Comics tabs of the character pages)

A couple of Tactics characters still need their Power Cards put in (again, the format for such is on the left nav bar under Formatting Guidelines). Some decks still need their artwork descriptions added or their flavortext descriptions added.

And the Category:Stub has all the pages that have very little information on them. Most of those there isn't yet any information -to- put on them, but some of them could be expanded.

And strategy guides! Those need to be linked (see Setback or Guise pages)

I'm in the middle of transitioning the wiki to the new format, but Heroes are all done! You can edit anywhere you'd like, just know that as I go through the Villains/Environment it may get changed/overwritten (though probably just incorporated)

Daybreak added to the wiki.

Hero page is now sortable. It is also, backend wise, MUCH easier to add a new line to the chart. MUCH easier.  However, most people won't ever have to do that.

(haven't updated the Villan or Environment list pages yet, tho I will in the near future)

Also, I think the latest post worth of Fireside Chat clarifications isn’t integrated into the wiki pages yet.

Every single Stuntman, Benchmark, Void Guard, and OblivAeon expansion decklist is now typed up and on the wiki in appropriate spots. Phew.

Thank you so much for this.  I spent some time reading the decks, while I wait for my copy, and I can't wait for Luminary.

got the artwork all up or ready to go from what is in the Video Game (that was a long night last night unlocking S&D Benchmark and Action Stuntman :P)

And a huge shout out thanks to Powerhound2000 for getting fireside chat stuff added! Thats awesome and a huge weight off my shoulders

And another shout out for Jeysie adding the Daybreak RPG sheets. Tedius entry work there, but they're going up! (I'll get to a custom Meruto Aux Sheet soon...)

Only a few more Villains to update to the new format, and then the minor villains and environments are next. I migth finish before my copy of OblivAeon arrives ... might... xD

Whew!

All major pages are converted to the new format!

(Ie: that means all Heroes, major and minor, all Villains, major and minor, and all Environment pages are now on the new look)

There is still lots to do: I am standardizing all the Variants with Text images (it was very very hodgepodge before) using the Video Game images - Thats the next major project. And the Podcast information still needs to be moved in general for lots of characters to their Comics pages and their reference pages under the Questions section.

and lots of other little things.

I am certain I made transcribing errors while moving everything to the new format. If you find anything weird please either don't hesitate to fix it yourself (if you ahve an account - if you don't and want to help, just ask here and we'll get you set up!) or let us know here in this thread and we'll fix it. (but we highly encourage you to ask for an account and start adding/fixing/moving stuff on your own! :p)

Besides the variants redo, the other major project will be to get peoples various Strategy Guides up on the wiki.

All variants currently available in the Video Game are now also available on the wiki (image wise)

(other than Super Sentai and Cosmic Inventor, cause I haven't unlocked them yet, surprise)

Can I have edit access to the wiki, please? I have a couple of typo edits to make. 

I would like a Wiki account please :) The link on the Wiki sent me here, so I assume this is the right place to ask?

I feel like I should update this thread with recent major wiki developments.

One, between myself and WalkingTarget we now have a spiffy gallery of all the Faux Comics Covers that have been made for the Multiverse:

https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Comic_Covers

Two, WalkingTarget's been working on creating some summary pages for the major ongoing titles in the Multiverse:

• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Tome_of_the_Bizarre
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Mystery_Comics
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Freedom_Five_Annual
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Freedom_Five_(Comic)
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Justice_Comics

Three, I did a major redesign of the individual Podcast Episode pages. Example here:

https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Podcasts/Episode_19

I basically wanted to do a few things:

1. Put the Summary front and center instead of hidden behind a second click. Because I mean, pretty much the whole reason to go to the episode pages is to read the summaries.
2. Make everything more clean, tidy, and readable.
3. Make it more modular since different episodes contain different subsets of information.
4. Make it flow and look better on mobile and other smaller screens.
5. Make it more comic book-y looking.

I'm now going through all the old episode pages to do some copyediting and clean them up a bit, add some images where we can, and so on, but the redesign should still already work on every episode page right now.

Next projects in progress for me: Redesigning the Main Page and adding info from the Sentinels of Freedom video game to the character pages.

This sure is spiffy! :D

Figures I was just showing friends the comic covers by scrolling through endless pages on Libsyn. :P This is so much cooler!

Many thanks for all the work on this, folks! Greatly appreciated! :-D 

Great work on this.  

Thumbs up!

Latest work: Full redesign of the Podcast Episode Index Page: https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Podcasts

There's now two different views: One with the episodes separated out into categories, and another that's just a straight listing of everything in chronological order. Also just a general overhaul to try to make everything a little cleaner looking.

Nice part is we editors can just tack episodes onto the end of the giant list in the code each month and the wiki autosorts it all, including auto-generating the Schedule too.

(Aside: It's kind of insane how much you can do solely in CSS nowadays.)

That index page looks really good; as someone who usually falls asleep listening to podcasts, this is going to make my evenings much easier.

Your hard work is certainly appreciated!

That's super awesome. My one nitpick is that I expected to find the OblivAeon episodes under "Story Arcs" instead of "Villains," because those episodes are more about telling the story of the crossover event than about describing the big bad himself.

Fortunately that’s easy to tweak. It keys off the “Type” in each episode line, and there can be more than one Type. So I tweaked it.

Since Rabit was so kind to alert me to an eBay for the First Edition during the Gen Con livestream, I finally got around to scanning and uploading the remaining Character Cards that were different to go with the wiki already having the two Hero Incaps that were different (AZ and Bunker).

So here's the whole list, including the ones the wiki already had:

• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=File:Absolute_Zero_Original_Standard_Front.png
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=File:Absolute_Zero_Original_Standard_Back.png
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=File:Bunker_The_Indestructible_Standard_Back.png
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=File:Haka_Original_Standard_Front.png
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=File:Ra_Original_Standard_Front.png
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=File:Visionary_Original_Standard_Front.png
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=File:Wraith_Original_Standard_Front.png
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=File:Citizen_Dawn_Original_Standard_Front.png
• https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=File:Citizen_Dawn_Original_Standard_Back.png

Apologies for any quirks in the quality; had to "scan" with my phone camera because my actual scanner sucks. :P

Adam is going to take down the Wiki now =P

What’s hilarious is that I asked Lynkfox and apparently Adam himself gave us the two First Edition incaps we already had.

Also don’t tell Adam but I actually kind of like the First Edition AZ better than the Enhanced Edition AZ (although I think the Anniversary one is better than both).

Yeah, I kinda like that pose for Haka better - it's a little more dynamic than the EE - and it's cool to have the pyramid behind Ra.

There's something ineffably charming about that old art. :D

FWIW, I've attached here some pics of the rest of the First Edition artwork that seemed different, just for informal kicks.

And then one last one since apparently there's an attachment limit per post. :P

Oh yeah, I'd heard the environment cards used to be... weird. c.c I'm glad they went with text boxes for those, too.

I dearly love those old card backs though, oh my gosh.

Tempest sparkling otherworldly resilience go! :D And the old version of Coolant Blast really tells you a lot more about what's going on with it.

Wow. :B

Okay, Number A, is that Revenant or the Celestial Tribunal on Impale? I'm leaning toward the Tribunal, which is a pretty early appearance.

And Letter 2, who is The Wraith's exclamation-point-guy?

Also, I notice that Zealous Offense was much more powerful. It's not limited to targets.

You're right, that totally looks like a Celestial Executioner! :O

My latest overhaul has been the Heroes, Villains, and Environment indexes:

https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Heroes
https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Villains
https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Environments

I feel like I still have to revisit these, since... I did achieve making the portraits more consistent (basically borrowed from the video game), cleaning up the underlying code (we used to have tables inside of tables!), and making it more compact horizontally... but at the cost of making it longer and less quickly scannable vertically. Probably need to just split the names off into their own column again either literally via table code or visually using CSS. But I'm also a bit tired of looking at the pages for the time being (while the output code is simpler, the wikicode for these needed a bit more insane conglomerate of #if blocks, especially the Villains one) and it hopefully looks OK-ish for now, so...

Also updated the Environments with the actual official difficulties and plan on working through the Letters Page episodes to add in the minor characters to the Heroes and Villains sections that are currently missing.

Aw, that looks real good though! :D

Well, the Definitive Edition sure is going to be a headache for you wiki’ers. I do not envy you. Good luck, though!

I can’t seem to find the different comic covers easily through the wiki. How would I go about doing that?

I actually suggest just going to the Letters Page and going back through all the pages to find them. I did that once recently, and they only started so long ago. It’s pretty quick to skim the site looking for images since they’re 99% comic covers.

Two places.

One, the main category which I reformatted into an actual nice gallery: Category:Comic Covers - Sentinel Comics Wiki
Two, I recently added a tab with just the Writers’ Room covers specifically to the Podcasts page itself: Podcasts - Sentinel Comics Wiki

I think at some point I want to make it so when you hover over the listings on the Podcasts index you get some relevant context for that episode that shows in a pop-up including things like the covers, but this at least adds the covers somehow which I probably should have done way before now.

Well there is a page with all of them gathered on the same page, but I have trouble finding it easily.

Yeah, the wiki’s structure in general needs a serious overhaul. Me, Lynkfox, and WalkingTarget have been discussing it off and on.

Edit: Oh right, I forgot Lynkfox was silly and thought it was a good idea to give me admin powers, so I flexed and edited the sidebar to add/remove a few things. Mostly adding Adam’s various art things like the Covers and Inktober galleries.

This is the page I was talking about: Category:Comic Covers - Sentinel Comics Wiki

If you search the wiki for Comic Covers it does not show up, and I don’t know how I even accessed it in the first place.

It’s because I repurposed a category page rather than making a page proper. Only things in the “Main” namespace show up in the wiki search, things like the Category namespace do not.

One of the (many) reasons the wiki structure could use an overhaul is to find better homes for these sorts of things. It’s one of the things I added to the Sidebar for now, though.

So, it looks like there are maybe some people still working on the Sentinels Wiki. One thing the wiki had that I always thought was useful and cool was a card list.

Well, I’ve been making a card list for my own use in Play-by-Post games, and I was wondering if anyone was interested in getting a link to it if they were planning on adding the DE cards to the Wiki in some way.

I did not include Character cards or the Villain set-up card. I also did not include any flavor text, or issue numbers. But, I figured if anyone was going to tackle that sort of update project, this could be a massive time-saver to just copy what I already was doing for a separate purpose.

I thought about posting it here directly, but I wasn’t sure if that would upset people, so just hit me up in DMs or PMs or whatever we call them on this site, and I can forward you the Link.

Thank you for all you guys do keeping this thing going, and I hope you are all doing well.

I have a copy of WalkingTarget’s own database for his card lookup bot, but because the update to the wiki software broke our existing templates they have to be rewritten before we can actually properly add anything to them, and I’ve been dealing with a bunch of health issues making it difficult to work on such things at more than a snail’s pace.

I’m going to try to kludge something together for DE as a stopgap. In the mean time, WT’s said he’s put his bot on the RoD Discord server (it’s also already on the LP server).

I really wish we had followed my suggested procedure of updating a test wiki setup and only migrating the updates over once we had everything up and running properly, but instead Lynkfox updated the live wiki, so here we are.

Hey, I’m not complaining. You guys do amazing work, I just wasn’t sure who was active or if there was a plan.

If you have health issues, focus on those. Way more important than this. I was just offering a “hey, I’ve written all this stuff, is this something that will save you guys time and effort”

If it would be helpful to you guys, I could try and do something. But I also work at a snail’s pace, have a dozen other projects, and just pushed myself to get this excel sheet library finished. But the offer of giving you guys what I got, so that when you get to the stage of typing them all you just have to copy and paste what I wrote, maybe a few edits for formatting purposes, is still on the table.

Sorry, I didn’t mean that to sound like a castigation, more just an explanation. (Well, OK, I’m still a little salty at the wiki update bit, but not at what you said.)

We already have all the information from the cards themselves, as WT typed it all up for his bot, it’s just a matter of my getting it proofread and then the wikicode… coded.

Well, and also I wanted to promote that WT programmed a really cool card lookup bot for the Discords. It also looks up the various comic issues as well.

Naw, it’s fine. I just wanted to make sure there wasn’t any miscommunication. I can’t help with coding unfortunately, it is a skill I distinctly lack.

Good luck to you, and again, your health is more important than the database for a card game. So don’t work too hard or worry too much over it.

Hi. So, the main page for the Wiki says to post in this thread to request a editor account. So, I’m doing that. Can @lynkfox or another Admin set that up for me, please? Thanks!

Sure can. PM me here or on reddit ( u/lynkfox ) an email address and a desired username.