Adam Art Stream PSA

Putting this here I suppose since it’s partly Sentinels-related?

As alluded to in the Editor’s Note, Adam’s been doing more art streaming on his Twitch lately, some of which is Sentinels, some of which isn’t. So you all should come gawk with us, as it’s often a good time.

https://www.twitch.tv/comicsandcoffee

Right now his schedule is:

Mondays: Writers’ Room covers, or catching up on covers for pre-Writers’ Room episodes that told Writers’ Room-esque stories.

Tuesdays: Redesigning characters from a non-Sentinels property into “Adam style”

Wednesdays: Playing a game then drawing a cool scene from the game.

Thursdays: Drawing tasteful pinups of Sentinels characters.

He often will also do things like draw Sentinels sticker designs when there’s enough time left after any of the above.

Some examples of what he’s all been doing:

https://twitter.com/GtGAdam/status/1749545579267665987

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Thanks for posting. Somehow Twitter keeps not showing his stuff, and I don’t do Twitch. So seeing the art from the streams and posts here is welcome.

If you have the TikToks, he’s also been posting his timelapses there: TikTok - Make Your Day

Though you don’t need a Twitch account simply to watch a Twitch stream, though it’s a bit harder to keep track of the go lives obvs. He usually streams around 12 EST or so.

I do not use tiktok. And I really, REALLY don’t like livestreams in general. Rather just see the finished product, not the process.

He always streams a couple of hours before I’m in a position to sit and watch, or I’d attend more often.

If you have Twitter set to “Following” instead of “For you” as your default screen, you should be able to find them more easily on there.

The only reason I didn’t post more of them here is it’s mostly the pinups, which while they’re tasteful they’re also still a bit more risque than I wanna post here.

And to add to MindWanderer’s comment, if you add people to a list you can read that list and get a plain old list of their tweets.

Oh, I never use the "for you’ tab. But Twitter has become even more of a dumpster fire than it was even a year ago, so… yeah.

i have watched some of them on YouTube.
I have the DITL Unity on another tab right now. I was going to post a link on the Editor’s Note thread, but this thread is better.

Yeah some of them are also on the YouTube shorts, just not as many as are on Tik-Tok near as I can tell.

I will say that the best way to look at the finished products is to either keep an eye on Adam’s Twitter account directly, or put Adam in a list and view the list.

Both will let you straight up see a plain chronological list of his tweets, even now.

(And I tend to operate purely from lists on Twitter in general; plain old following isn’t worth it.)

Here’s the most adorable bit of yesterday’s stream.

If you’re of OddballPaladin’s mindset and just want to see the finished results, check out https://youtu.be/XKlWu3fKDXQ?t=4200 for the Freedom Five and https://youtu.be/XKlWu3fKDXQ?t=9480 for Dark Watch.

And the dude opened his own website today, too.

He’s been going all in on this.

I just ordered 3 prints, will update upon receipt to show off for others to make their own decisions.

I think they’re printing in-house, so it should be the same.

But they do come out wonderfully!

What are the dimensions on those?

8.5”x11”

Sonvar beat me to it before I got up this morning, lol. And they’re basically that thick stiff photo paper type paper.

anyone know what his general price for commissions is?
I do not want to start filling out an online for just for curiosity.

When me and Amelia commissioned pics of Manga Anthony and Pretty Boy Hippo it was $200 I want to say? In that ballpark, at least.

thanks
my birthday was 2 weeks ago maybe a Bday present for myself next year

Only about fifty grand to get all the villains on my blog illustrated. Another time, perhaps.

After a bit of chit-chat on Adam’s server, Adam says it’s totally OK to use the form just out of curiosity/getting a ballpark of how much a given idea might cost.

Is there a link to the server somewhere, and does he post all of the art from the streams there?

I may lurk just to look at the pretty art.

he doesn’t post his own art much, it’s mostly just a community space for the stream viewers to chat, but still a fun space

Oh dang, the one and only churro is posting art in there too!?! I might lurk in just the art channel and hope to one day find time to make art as well

Anyone want to pool resources to commission Adam to draw a mash-up character combining Citizen Hammer from Sentinels and Mechaneck from Masters of the Universe?

As promised, a follow up. From order placement to delivery via USPS, 8 days in the continental US.

They are 8.5x11 inch, on heavier paper stock. Colors look good, satisfied with the final product. I wound up framing them for display, will figure out where in our game room they will be hung later.

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I feel like you could get a pretty good feel for any person as a fan by asking them which three pics they’d pick, lol. I belatedly realized I coincidentally picked “my favorite three characters in their happy place” pics.

If I ever get another go round I’d probably get all covers this time, ADITL: AZ, Freedom Four 1776, and the La Comodora Saturday Evening Post pastiche.

That Fanatic cover was a 100% first choice for this. Citizen Dawn is one of our favorite fights (wife likes a “target rich environment”), and Nightmist is a favorite character for both of us. Sadly, a “Nightmist being badass” cover was not available. So I took the next best option for her.

Both Starshield Invocation and Tendril of Talontus are pretty good “Badass Nightmist” ones from her deck art (though honestly I think Master of Magic is my favorite art from her deck overall).

Never registered on it before but Nightmist appears to be doing some Polly Hedron-style geometry magic with her right hand there…which probably means nothing to anyone who didn’t buy the Guise Book.

Sorry, should have clarified, was only looking at “covers”, for the vibes.

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for the badass whilst unpowered or

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for badass sacrifice at the end of the Multiverse,

but I get that you might not want her to be overshadowed by other characters.

That darkwatch one is on the shortlist for future covers.

I had a feeling that the ARG comics might not be available for prints due to being too old, and a quick ask confirmed, only Podcast and DE art.

That Fanatic cover is THE reason I will be ordering prints. After that it’s a matter of “do I want anything else while I’m at it?”

Eh, guess we’ll wait for Definitive OblivAeon to get that then.

Yeah, my challenge is that I need 27 to replace all my EE prints, but I don’t want them all to come from Core and RCR, so I have to be patient…

Okay, now I’m going to have to go through my DE cards and all the episode arts to find my three. Curse you!

This may be helpful for going through card art: Card Gallery

Helpful, but not helping.

I started to go through this exercise, but quickly realized 1) that there are too many great choices to pick from, and 2) I’d rather wait for more Parse and Scholar content to be released anyway. In particular, there’s not much good “modern” Parse (as opposed to her First Appearance murdery look).

Creating a new Synthwave world (youtube.com)

I hope Adam develops this into an actual product. I sounds like the type of game I would back on Kickstarter at a PDF level download into a games folder and possible never look at.

Kind of putting it out there I regret finding out Adam has a lot of openly far right libertarian views that were not at all what I had been expecting before going to his server.

After sleeping on it, I decided, screw it, I’m not going to be vague here.

I’ve dealt with too much abusive, inappropriate crap from this fandom, but being told that my mother and the other elderly people I know are stealing from everyone if they need Social Security to live? And that people like myself are stealing if we need some sort of safety net help because we have no other options?

And then not walking it back when I pointed out that was my situation?

That was just a real line that was crossed. One I had never expected to have to put up with from this community, let alone one of the people I’ve supported all these years.

He’s stated a bunch of other very uncomfortable things as well. Things like using the term “autistic” as a slur, or repeating what were explicitly Comicsgate narratives. Posting videos from people who write for the Babylon Bee.

And so I feel stupid having created this thread, because if I had known any of this I would not have created this thread. That’s not the kind of person I personally would want to promote. Which is why I wrote this, so I can make that clear to any people who come along later that, no, I didn’t know this at the time I made the thread.

I know this fandom has a “go along to get along” mentality, but, that’s not how I work. I’m still into Sentinels itself because so far Christopher and Paul, and the people at Critical Hits, have not done anything to disappoint me, but man, I’m not doing this.

Thank you for sharing. It troubles me that this has happened, and I only hope your statements help others understand the pain that they are causing.

You could edit the thread title and your initial post if you wanted to reach people who haven’t been following along since the beginning, rather than new readers having to get 45 posts in for this information. I only follow the Letters Page so all of this is news to me.

I mean… yeah. There’s a sizable amount of people in this community who have caused pain to other people. Not just to me, but to other fans, and to GTG employees.

I’ve personally been mocked, harassed, verbally abused, had endless amounts of false accusations thrown at me, and gotten retaliatory actions aimed at me. And typically this sort of treatment was done in response to my expressing sincere concern about similar hostile behavior that was initially being aimed at someone else, which just makes it all the more hurtful.

I’m particularly currently banned from the Sentinels Reddit solely because MigrantP had me retaliated against for calling out him mocking another Sentinels fan. Complete with false accusations that other people engaging in abuse and harassment campaigns was really me bothering those other people, and that me asking the mods to deal with that behavior was “harassing the mods”.

And even after other Sentinels people went to bat for me corroborating everything I said was true, the accusations and bans still were not retracted. So if anyone’s wondered why I’ve been AWOL over there, that’s why.

That’s the kind of thing I’ve been dealing with.

But, you know, at least I guess up to this point it’s still always been about my opinions/behavior to some degree.

This was a number of derogatory takes on people just living their lives and existing. That’s a whole other level. It’s one thing for people to say they don’t like my attitude, because trust me, feeling’s typically 100% mutual for the type of people who make that sort of complaint at me. It’s another thing to be told that my living situation that I had no real other choice in, makes me somehow a problem just for existing in it.

I know you don’t care, but FWIW he did not say any of those things. His points (which I do not agree with) were as follows:

• Taxation primarily goes to things that are not social services. Initially he says it’s mostly war, then he says it’s mostly “the pockets of unelected bureaucrats”
• He is against his tax money going to public education or police, because he and his family do not directly benefit from those things.
• Mandatory taxation is theft. People should be able to opt out if they want to receive no social services.
• Social security was badly designed and is collapsing due to being underfunded, which was inevitable because the cost of it is growing faster than any reasonable amount that can be taken from taxes.
• “I have nothing against people on social services, my beef is entirely with the government”

Again, to be clear, I disagree strongly with most of those positions. He’s right that Social Security was poorly designed, and we won’t get as much benefit from it as our parents did. He’s dead wrong about not personally, if indirectly, benefiting from public education or law enforcement. But please criticize him for things he actually said, which do not include accusing Social Security recipients of theft.

Correct, I don’t care about your claim here because he did say those things.

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Since Adam’s server is public, here.

Which is provably false. And in fact my pointing that out is what led the convo down the path I complained about.

As I was expecting my pointing out that most of the debt goes to Social Security to be the end of the conversation, or at least a defusing of the situation. Instead I was blindsided.

I will indeed criticize him for this because that’s what he said, thank you, as there is obviously literally no other possible way to interpret him literally saying “oh great also stealing by Boomers” in response to my bringing up Social Security. Certainly multiple other people agreed with my interpretation when they PMed me afterwards, because, duh. That’s what he said.

This is why I’m increasingly fed up with this fandom’s nonsense. Someone explicitly, blatantly says a thing and people rush to pretend they magically really said something else and I’m just being unreasonable if I’m bothered by it, versus telling the truth and taking responsibility for what they very clearly obviously said. Why is that? Why is that a thing I’m forced to constantly put up with?

And I mean, I also explained how all his other points that you listed were factually incorrect, and in response I just got accused of being “willfully ignorant” and a bunch of similar brushoffs.

I want to add some context to this, since I was there when it happened.
As Jeysie pointed out, this happened on Adam’s server, in his Meme channel of all place, and not on the stream, so only those who interact with both might have noticed it. Adam also has a rule on his server that states “No politics”, yet it is a rule he repeatedly breaks if it is a subject he feels strongly about and it is never “DEGENERATE”-style “STICK IT TO THE MAN!” things he talk about.
Adam also has this frustrating trait there if something isn’t of interest, or value, to him, he has absolutely no idea why it would be to anyone else.

I am not adding to this because I want some kind of Twitter-style witch hunt and try to get Adam #cancaled, but rather because he was a man I looked up to, and admired, and this kind of behavior has soured my view on him considerably, to the point where I find it hard to interact with his streams, as well as Sentinel Comics as a whole.

Yeah, to be clear, I was not intending my initial post as a “Cancel Adam” type thing either, because I’m not going to tell people how to react to things.

It was that I feel if I make posts promoting someone, that puts me on the hook for that, so I wanted to say now I retract that promotion and why. It’s my own personal feelings.

Right now I’m more just upset at the whole “Adam didn’t say that” approach being taken here.

MW, if you want to argue what Adam said wasn’t that bad, we can have that discussion. (Granted, I’d kinda rather not as this isn’t really the place for it, but, we can.)

Or if you want to argue “well he phrased it poorly, I think this is what he really meant”, we can have that discussion too.

But if you’re going to take the “he didn’t say that” approach, then I’m sorry, but he did in fact phrase it exactly that way and I don’t think I was at all unreasonable to initially interpret it that way.

Addendum post just because there’s some things I skipped over to stay laser focused, but realized honestly maybe I should comment on them as well.

Yeah, this got really annoying. I initially joked in DMs that for someone who claims to avoid politics because it made him angry, he sure has a lot of hot takes/firebrand “this makes me angry” takes on everything else that’s technically not political.

But then that bled into also actually discussing politics, and after a while his rules started feeling less like a way to avoid discord on the server and more like a way to say controversial things but then discourage disagreement about them.

Which, obviously not my style, especially if something is said that’s just flat out factually incorrect, as I don’t like incorrect information being what’s out there versus everyone having the accurate information available.

As I will certainly agree to not discuss certain things at all, as there’s a time and place, but I do not like “I get the soapbox and you can’t comment at all” type scenarios, especially when there’s no openness about that being the actual situation.

Yeah this came up not just in the political discussion as outlined, but also in discussions of things like comics and Magic Story. Where Adam would give off the attitude that just because he didn’t like something, that meant it wasn’t good at all period for anyone.