Editor’s Note #49

They try to break tradition with these but it always comes back to that topic

Upcoming schedule:

• Tuesday, November 2nd: Episode #193 - Writers’ Room: Disparation: Oni Mr. Fixer
• Tuesday, November 9th: Episode #194 - Writers’ Room: A Mr. Jitters story
• Tuesday, November 16th: Episode #195 - Creative Process: Underworlds — hells, demon dimensions, and more!
• Tuesday, November 23rd: Editor’s Note #50
• Tuesday, November 30th: Episode #196 - Writers’ Room: Haunted Fanatic

Recording schedule:

• Friday, October 30th: Episode #193 - Writers’ Room: Disparation: Oni Mr. Fixer
• Friday, November 5th: Episode #194 - Writers’ Room: A Mr. Jitters story
• Friday, November 12th: Episode #195 - Creative Process: Underworlds — hells, demon dimensions, and more!
• Friday, November 19th: Editor’s Note #50
• Friday, November 26th: Episode #196 - Writers’ Room: Haunted Fanatic

I agree, Adam’s Italian accent is hilariously awful.

Also, wow, you gotta be careful what you say in these letters, otherwise they’ll flag them for Miss Information and then… I have to assume you’re just done at that point! :B

00:20:03 - Wait, wait, whoa whoa whoa. I thought it was very thoroughly canonically established, going all the way back to Guise’s episode and then repeatedly re-emphasized since then, that Guise does not actually see into the meta-verse, nor into the meta-metaverse (aka our reality), but simply delusionally thinks he does. Now, all of a sudden, Guise does have transdimensional sight AND therefore the metaverse is part of the multiverse? This does not compute! I’m going to need to get Omnitron 3.14159 on this case…

Oh hey, Maglev got a letter on. While my interest in that individual’s RPG project was short-lived, I’m always happy to see a new fan getting recognition. I’m not done listening to the answer to their question, about what to call the refugees who are stuck in the “lynchpin” universe by Vossaeon’s “sandwich bag” (god I hate that we don’t have a better name for that), but I have already thought of an appropriate name, perhaps not from the in-universe viewpoint (although La Capitan might have tossed off the word within earshot of someone), but definitely from the perspective of the metaverse comic readers. The obvious term for these “disposessed” people who came from Disparation universes is “The Disparossessed”.

I have a vested interest in figuring out what to call the Mist portal-displaced in the Sentinel Comics universe, since one of my players is one of those and I have had even less luck coming up with a term than C&A did! :’)

Mistplaced

Though I cant take credit for it as it is from this Reddit user Far Wanderer

Here’s my two cents on the names:

“Universal Seal?”

(Although I’m personally fine with “sandwich bag.” Not everything has to be so serious.)

“Multiversal Refugees?”

I don’t think we need to overcomplicate things with catchy titles, although they are fun if they’re right.

Wait, are we talking about the Animalverse here?

Universal Seal isn’t bad, but it isn’t very Voss. I think something along the lines of “Dimensional Exclusion Zone” is more suited to his general vibe.

I agree with c&a that Multiversal Refugees or the like is what they’d be called on government forms and NGO reports and such, but there should be a few other names for various levels of normal people, from the average college students to snooty intellectuals to the man on the street to “the hood”. At least two different names ought to come to mind for any of these populations, though they can overlap, and simple terms like “offworlder” or “weirdo” would fill some of those slots.

I’d suggest “Dimensional Being” or something, but Palladium Books doesn’t even like jokes of their stuff appearing in other company’s works.

Ha, yeah, I thought of that when I was posting it.

Huh, it hadn’t occured to me that the names we were coming up with were Voss’s.

I don’t think any of these names are going to appear in any of GTG’s products.

How about “Parallelies” or “Outtimers?”

Technically the Letters Page podcast is a GTG product. If someone wanted to sue them for misusing IP, it wouldn’t have to be in a physical product. This is probably the basis of the “shmarvel shminematic shmuniverse” jokes, though these have thankfully dropped off a bit.

The basis of doing that was entirely a running gag and I’m sure at some point it’ll come back.

I know it will, but I wish it wouldn’t.

How about “Alters”? Is that a thing? I think that already be a thing. Hold on, going to check.

Ah, never mind, it’s a psychological term. Pass.

I think since the original question also referred to dimensional travelers like Visionary and KNYFE, and not just people that came from the mist-portals, the name shouldn’t reference “mist” if we want to apply it to the broadest possible demographic (Though maybe this distinction doesn’t matter if it only applies to a single-digit number of people).

Could also use abbreviations:

Dimensional Refugee → DR (Dee Are)
“We’ve got a couple DRs joining the academy this year.”
Or MR for Multiversal Refugee

Do we know it’s a single digit number of people? I’d have thought it’d be a lot higher. The mist portals could have opened all over the world, bringing people into various scion battles in a hundred different locations. Subtract the casualties, you could still easily have several dozen members of this group.

Dil_Ninja was referring to the number of folks who were from a different dimension but did not get to the Sentinels timeline via the mist portals, such as KNYFE and Visionary. That number is likely pretty small, but we probably don’t have a full count of them.

(Do we count the drawer full of KNYFEs on Mars? )

There’s also Omnitron-X who is a dimension hopper.

Along those lines, Dimensional or Multiversal Refugee could be something like Di-Ref or Multi-Ref.

Unrelatedly, what about Alt-Aliens?

A-You’s (Alternate You)

That was actually a secondary question of whether or not people who retroactively apply the term to them even though they’re a slightly different, but ultimately very similar, category. Then whether or not the term would also apply to Miss Information is an even bigger question

Off the top of my head, all the non-mistportal dimensional travelers would be: KNYFE, Visionary, Omnitron-X, and an unknown number of ex-FILTER agents.

Miss Information and Darkmind also probably count, but I don’t think anyone knows Miss Info’s origin and I doubt the government is going to try to classify and civilize an incorporeal ex-Scion.

I just listened to Aminia’s episode, and she literally explains her deal in her monologue when they confront her about Parse saying she’s Miss Information

Christopher is wrong here, a countable infinity times another countable infinity is not an uncountable infinity. It is simply a much, much larger countable infinity. The amount of time needed to count it is also countably infinite, and both of these remain smaller than a truly uncountable infinity, such as the number of times units within literally forever.

I honestly think the two Wagers Master might just play games with each other forever and leave everyone else alone. Maybe that’s just me being an introverted only child who always wanted another me so I wouldn’t be alone; I’m giving them a happy ending, even though I hate them.

Weird that the two Pre-OblivAeon “multiverse refugees” are both female, as is the most famous OA one, so the name “Mister” is definitely not even remotely possible to entertain for a moment. I think the most notable male one is Hedgelord.

The blank letter was kind of a good joke, but if I was writing a comic with Progeny in it, I’d give him a few word bubbles, containing things like “cannot destroy, must adapt with new element and then attempt to destroy again”, but better than that, very alien and robotic sounding and monstrous, but definitely not mindless. It’s not that he can’t talk, just that he has no reason to engage in dialogue with things he intends to destroy.

By definition, a countable infinity is the same “size” as the set of natural numbers. While you can have one infinity that is larger than another infinity, you can’t have a countable infinity that is larger than another countable infinity.

Then clearly that is a flawed definition, as it stands to reason that if “size” of infinity can possibly mean anything, then the set of infinite numbers ending in 4 or 8 has to be twice as large as the number of infinite numbers ending in 8 only. Any claim to the contrary defies basic logic in such a way that it cannot possibly be worth anything as scholarship.

Infinities are counter intuitive.

There are infinitely many natural numbers (the positive whole numbers) and there are also infinitely many integers (positive and negative whole numbers). While it may appear that there are “more” integers than natural numbers, these infinities are actually of the same “size” (cardinality).

We can prove this because we can create a function to “map” each natural number to an integer on a one-to-one basis: 0 maps to 0, 1 maps to 1, 2 maps to -1, 3 maps to 2, 4 maps to -2, etc.

With this mapping, it is impossible to come up with a natural number that does not correspond to an integer (or vice versa), so they must be of the same cardinality. We call any infinity of the same cardinality as the set of natural numbers a “countable infinity”, simply because the natural numbers are the ones we use to count things with.

And if it’s so “counterintuitive” as to require ignoring any real world applications as well as basic logic, then what exactly is the point of it? It might as well not exist, if it’s only function is to amuse math nerds while confounding everyone else. No such thing as actual infinity can exist in real space, the closest thing to an application I can think of is fractal drawings, which are best, sure, but I’m not certain that it’s necessary to have highly confusing math theorems to explain them, when other theorems more firmly grounded in reality might also do so.