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Matchstickman
2017-11-14 15:02 UTC
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What a great foundation for a discussion.
You can listen to this urban exploration here
What a great foundation for a discussion.
You can listen to this urban exploration here
Some of them crumble so I don’t know it’s too steady of a foundation.
I have to say, "It's not like he can see what's on the hat," had me laughing hard, to the point my dog was staring confused at me.
So turns out I was right and in the Sentinels universe I would pretty much live next door to Megalopolis. Man, that's so much more awesome than real life, you don't even know.
In general this was admittedly more of an episode confirming a lot of stuff alluded to or implied rather than a lot of dramatic reveals, but I like having stuff solidly ironed out.
Also I feel like Adam really needs to give us a nice radio show; his NPR radio voice is as awesome as his old-timey one.
Man, I'm a little frustrated.
Couldn't think of any questions for most of these places, but I thought up a few for Mordengrad, like how did they stay independent and did anyone ever try and take over from Blade.
And then other people got to it first, lucky jerks :P
Still, this one had some interesting information of the various city settings, so that's cool and useful. Kind of gives me an idea of how my homebrew city is going to try and compete with Megalopolis and the types of things they'll absolutely need if they are going to make that work.
When they gave a location for Megapolis , my hopes were raised for a similar reveal about Rook City , those hopes were dashed, otherwise nice episode , I feel even sadder for SkyScraper than ever before though
I admit I headcanon Rook City as being in New Jersey, with a great deal of apology to any New Jerseyites on the forum. It even turns out to go well with them saying Rook City is "a few miles" from Megalopolis.
And yeah, I feel so sorry for poor Sky-Sky. First Tempest doesn't like her, now the citizens of Earth don't like her, and there was never in existence a character who less deserved being disliked by people.
Hey, Jersey's already got Gotham, so why not.
I headcannon Rook City being in the Midwest located in flyover country where the rest of America just forgets about it, like Milwaukee or Minneapolis
I had always thought of it as Chicago to Megalopolis as New York.
But, with Megalopolis in Connecticut, that's obviously not the case…
In unrelated news, does anyone else get the feeling that our intrepid hosts/creators are starting to hold some cards closer to the chest in advance of OblivAeon? I feel like it's been a while since we've really gotten any big reveals as to the comics canon–the link between La Capitan and Haka is probably the most recent, to my feeling.
But, a lot of the characters that we probably should have seen by now–Tempest, Voss, Miss Information, and Parse, particularly–are still nowhere in sight. And, from what it seems, there's a lot of major questions hinging on their actions. We've gotten every other major character associated with Revocorp, but not Parse. We've gotten every core hero (and almost every Prime Warden), but not Tempest. And talk of the Voss invasion has all but disappeared, despite it seeming like a pretty important event series early on in the publishing history, especially given the status of the Maenaryian race, the ultimate fate of Viktor, and the events depicted on Mistbound.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the upcoming episode on Blood Magic and the like, but I can't help but feel like there's a bit of "stalling" going on, until OblivAeon hits…
There's a lot of reveals coming up, What exactly Biomancer is, How blood magicians work, and the first week in December is the Lowsley brothers, some good tasty meat on those stories
Again, don't get me wrong–I'm enjoying the side stories as much as anyone out there. But, I think C & A would readily admit that the Biomancer shenanigans and the Blood Countess's exploits are side stories, at best. And, at least to my eyes, the Captain Cosmic/Infinitor clash is pretty self-contained; I get the impression that Infinitor is similar to The Matriarch in that he was a villain once.
It just seems odd to me that notable key players are getting shunted down the schedule in favor of relatively minor items like, "A Day in the Life in Megalopolis". I'm enjoying it all; I'm just craving the rest of the core story!
I understand your point completely, I would also like more of the core story ,especially the Voss Invasion. I think your wrong about Infintor though , He fights the Freedom Five , Prime Wardens plus Skyscraper and is several issues of Captain Cosmic book , plus his connection to Oblivaeon means reveals if c and a are willing to give them
I don’t think the Infinitor event is just a one time event but just moreso it just so tied into Captain Cosmic’s story you can’t separate it very well. Fanatic and Apostate probably deserved their own episode together considering their tie-ins. I hope we see Tempest and Voss sooner rather than later as they are the only core set Hero/villain combo left. I had thought this month would have started off with Captain Cosmic and then December would have been Tempest to continue the trend of a Prime Warden at the beginning of the month they had going. So I’m guessing at this point the first January episode will be Tempest.
The fact that they have pushed Voss (and Tempest by association) so far off, to me, adds evidence that the redacted scion is Voss and they are holding that back until the game itself reveals it.
The side stories this month make me wonder if they are concerned they will lose the audience once all the villain and hero episodes are done. Though its a little late as there are only a few core characters left. I'll keep listening to whatever they decide to release, in whatever order, but maybe that is not true for others.
Where would I be able to find the Mordengrad crest? Googling it doesn't work well.
My guess for Rook City is that it's somewhere in Maine, what with all that evil and magic floating around.
RIP, Half of Adam's Leg, 19-whatever to 2017. "At least he didn't need it for art."
All I know is they're gonna be talking about alien sex in the Tempest episode. :V That's something to look forward to!
And yeah, I came up with some great questions while listening to this! Why does that always happen? XD Really looking forward to the Maerynian Refuge deck now.
I think I can agree with Platinum that there is possibly some delays going on. Also, I think the schedule got a bit borked when they decided to turn all the Interludes into episodes. I'd bet money that this episode and the Blood magic episode were planned for Interludes, so they would have hit on Thursdays, giving us two more episodes this month, plus, they really did need to go back and do Spite's episode before it got left too far behind.
I'm loving every minute of the podcast, but Voss and Tempest being super important to the Oblivaeon story is the only reason I can think of they've been pushed so far down the line. Or maybe that's what they want us to think.
For anyone concerned about the construction of the Freedom Tower, I present the Sharpe Center for Design at the Ontario College of Art & Design.
To build the Freedom Tower like that, you would need a few vertical columns.
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My guess for Rook City is that it's somewhere in Maine, what with all that evil and magic floating around.
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That's a fair guess, too.
I could also see New Hampshire, since it has the sort of laissez-faire attitudes that could facilitate the road to Rook City's current situation.
Or Rhode Island, which is stereotypically run by the, ahem, "Organization" anyway.
(Today on: New Englander makes merciless fun of New England.)
(Ironically Holyoke is not that far off from being a real life Rook City, tho. :P)
[quote="Lord Flash Fire"]
Where would I be able to find the Mordengrad crest? Googling it doesn't work well.
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Presumably it's the illustration on the back of Baron Blade's solo villain deck.
And... I dunno, I feel weird framing it all in terms of "delays" when:
1. We're still talking about interesting info for the Sentinels universe.
2. We were way overdue for a Spite episode and I've been wanting a Biomancer episode for basically forever and found myself wanting one even more just about every time his shenanigans get more detail teased about them.
Since there is a swamp outside Rook city, are there swamps in Maine, or New Hampshire? I'm from the southwest US and I don't think I've ever even seen a swamp.
There's swamps here and there through most of the east coast. The Everglades in Florida is the most famous, but the northeast has swamps too.
Well, you need water for swamps, and the SW US has a really short supply of that.
New England is wet and has a fair bit of natural flora even nowadays, so yep, we have swamps. Enough that "Swamp Yankee" used to be a perjorative for rural New Englanders.
I can't help but wonder about the Maerynian refuge, Growing their buildings from Shells is cool, but i can only imagine the Panic that a permanent hurricaine caused when it first started forming. I mean most Islands are pretty much at the mercy of Hurricaines and typhoons & for something that size to form and then just... sit there. I also now have a Whole bunch questions about Leviathan & where he fits into things. I thought the would dance around his identity a bit more. On the other hand, he would probably be a good RPG Villain.
As for Rook City, My headcannon has always been that Rook City is in the rust belt somewhere. I mean, I come from a city that accidentally set fire to it's river.... twice. Then the EPA happened. And we name EVERYTHING after that. Burning River music fest, Burning River Pale Ale is pretty good, there's a Burning River marathon. Anyone who can be that celebratory about how bad their city used to be is someone who would probably do okay if forced into rook city. Gothic Architecture, abondoned steel mills, industrial buildings, Rivers that meet up in the city, if our crime rate got quite a bit worse Cleveland would seem very similar to Rook City.
Sounds like Ankh Morpork.
Ahh, Cleveland.
If I never go there again, it'll be too soon.
I love the Baron Blade bit. Best part. I hope Adam can regrow his leg with the Cult of Gloom.
I do wish we could do the interlude again. Having to do everything once a week really pushes back there story telling.
I don't mind the slow pace, honestly. It means we'll keep getting new content even past OblivAeon's release.
"Well, you know, if I wasn't feeling a little bit done with that bit as-is..."
"Now you're real done? That's killed any excitement you had left."
"Shmu shmr shmuh."
Mission Accomplished
However, I need to be more careful in the future when I ask "are there any stories about X" questions. I should have added "and if so, please tell us some of them." I was really hoping they'd explain the garish star-spangled Bunker suit.
I was a little worried that Christopher had found his evil equivalent to Adam's Cult of Gloom stuff, but apparently that wore off. Or so it seems....
Also, yeah, the delay on talking about Tempest is awfully conspicuous. They teased before that they were going to go over all the Prime Wardens soon, but now they're drawing it out, and I can't help but think that's a result of the continued delays with OblivAeon. I'm more convinced than ever that Rainek Kel is the tenth scion.
We still have I think at least seven weeks of episodes to go after November's lot, with that count not including the Prime Wardens team ep, Greazer, Iron Legacy, the Scions (including Progeny), and any further environment episodes (since I have no real idea how/if they're planning to handle most of that to make a count out of it).
I'm willing to predict that December might involve to go with Captain Cosmic/Infinitor, also Sky-Sky, Kaargra, and then a sort of "Space Environments" episode which might also include Greazer in it, so who knows after that.
I do find myself wondering what will happen after we finally run out of hero/villain/environment topics. Retiring the concept as "done"? Going to a sporadic schedule of Editor's Notes to deal with the backlog of leftover followup questions?
Personally what I'd love to see is switching to doing "blow-by-blow" episodes covering a few "issues" each week, if you asked me.
Also I can't believe I forgot to mention before now that I really want to see Jill the Average Megalopolisian show up in some stuff now.
After the individual character-focused episodes, I think I'd honestly like to see more "storyline" based episodes, centering on the major 'crossover' storylines.
As in, let's do an episode that details the whole of the Termi-Nation storyline and the whole kerfluffle regarding Fort Adamant. Tell us the story as it occured, in order. Maybe show something similar for Vengeance (though we've sort of gotten that one, already, though we haven't gotten many details regarding *how* Baron Blade ended up destroying the original FV base or what his plan was, beyond "get 'em!"). Iron Legacy, Cosmic Contest and the Voss event would also work well for this.
Within those, it'd be easy to drift into the "Here's this special one-shot issue--let's give you the blow-by-blow" that we got with Ambuscade/Mainstay a few episodes back.
I'd also like to see some of the significant Disparation events. I love the Marvel "What-if?" issues and the various DC "Elseworlds"--seriously, go read The Doom that Came to Gotham if you can find it--so those are of particular interest to me.
Didn't the Chokepoint episode cover the Termination event?. There's not much there to reveal except who killed General Armstrong.
As much as I love SkyScraper, her episode should be after Voss . Her whole story is after his first invasion,so her episode should be after his.
They may have to move Sky-Scraper's episode up so they can keep pushing the big reveal back, though. They're running out of major characters. There might be some surprise minor character episodes, though. I asked a couple of other questions about Tony Taurus that didn't get answered, so they may be saving that for a Heartbreaker episode (plus he's in the Cosmic Contest, to my surprise). And there will probably be a whole Zhu Long episode as well.
For sure, we have left:
After that? They may go in-depth into specific stories, but that really ought to be enough to last up until the release of OblivAeon, and thus the Kickstarter for the Sentinels RPG. And in that case, they may phase out The Letters Page in favor of the RPG gameplay podcast/livestream they said they'd like to do.
@padcurtin: Maybe, but if they're really pushing out Voss then it's more likely we'll get a final month of Tempest, Voss, Miss Information, and Parse (who's another OblivAeon-tied figure), since that's basically who's left for major characters other than the three I just mentioned.
Edit: Ninja'd by MindWanderer, though I hadn't known C&A wanted to do an ep about the Operative separate from the Chairman.
We know for sure the brothers Lowsley are week one of December, then the Cosmic Contest takes another week , that leaves one fortnight for a pair, Miss Information is separate from the main story enough, and except for the power source Parse doesn't seem to interact with Oblivaeon so that's my guess
We know at least two episodes from next month are Cosmic Contest and Captain Cosmic/Infinitor. So I see it unlikely we get Tempest/Voss and Parse/Miss Information episodes. I would guess we see Greazer next month on his own or part of a bigger Space theme.
I didn't start listening to the podcast until a few months in, so I decided to catch up on the Wraith and Chairman episodes the last couple of weeks in preparation for Spite and Rook City. I believe they mentioned it in both of those, although of course they may have changed their minds since then.
Oh right, duh, I forgot about the Cosmic Contest ep. XP So I amend my guess: Maybe we might actually get two environment episodes to go with the Lowsley Lads and the Contest.
@Mindwander: Ah, OK then. I admit my listening to the early eps was a bit scattershot that mainly only happened when I happened to be free that day or the next; I only started listening religiously with the Absolute Zero ep when the podcast ended up getting to be a convenient way to pass the time while escorting my mom to her rehab appointments that started then.
They seem to have more than enough material to start doing blow-by-blows! If love that for a next step.
Not at all: they said that the TermiNation arc involved some major changes in the Freedom Five’s relationship with the government, for one, and they barely explored that. There’s still a lot of story to progress through.
So I didn’t think of this before the episode, but ‘grad’ means “city (of).” So who is Morden??!
Highlights of the episode for me were as follows:
Only part I didn't like was "oevre". In fairness to Christopher, I actually have no idea what the correct English pronuciation actually is, but as someone who also speaks French, I cringed each time I heard it. (I know, I'm being a snob.)
As to what'll happen when C&A "run out" of heroes and villains, I for would love a bunch of detailed story blow-by-blows like we got in the Ambuscade and SW Sentinels episodes. That said, I anticipate that once the RPG/Prime War come out we'll be swinging back to cover a bunch of the heroes and villains again. We've been getting some info from each of the alternate futures, but nowhere near the level of detail we've had for the Multiverse events. Once the related products are released, I think C&A will be free to provide more story detail than they have been.
Side note, it is my serious hope that in the world of Sentinel Comics, neopolotin ice cream is actually called "megalopolitan". It would be even better if the colours matched Megalopolis's crest or official logo. (Strawberry's my favorite part of neopolitan, but we can swap it out for mint or lemon or blueberry or something if we need the colours to better line up).
Wait... did we seriously not ask about the city seals of Megalopolis and Rook City?
It's "oov-ruh", and you weren't the only one cringing. :C
I think it’s safe to say that Rook City’s is just the chalk outline of a body on the pavement.
Good to know!
Rook City: If you lived here, you'd be robbed now
Rook City: Come for the baseball, stay because you've been murdered.
Rook City: Hope is still alive here. (But that's only because we changed her name to "Jane Doe" on the police report and recorded the death as a suicide.)
I have literally seen this exact same tagline about my hometown of Chicago.
Which is totally unfair because the Baseball parks aren't in the dangerous parts of town.
Rook City: Where you always live in interesting times.
Rook City: It's such a nice city, it'd be a shame if something happened to it.
Well Comiskey(I will never call it US Cellurar Field) ain't in the nicest area.
But the overall dangers of Chicago have been greatly exagerrated anyways
It's technically Guarenteed Rate Field now. US Cellular pulled out of Chicago altogether.
And it's not the nicest neighborhood, but it's safer than the rest of the southside (possibly except for Beverly)
Rook City : Also has Crows
Rook City: Not just for the birds!
Rook City: Where every night is All You Can Eat Night at the Pike Industrial Plant!
As my father used to say: "If you catch it, you can eat it!"
I brought this up to Adam at PAX Unplugged. He was surprised it wasn't included in the episode, but admitted they probably remembered having talked about it while planning for the episode, so they forgot to talk about it while recording.
He said it's in Pennsylvania, "not far from here" (PAX Unplugged was in Philadelphia).
Could it be? Could Rook City be my beloved Pittsburgh?
If that's the case, I'ma havta take Christopher and Adam dahntahn and whup up dem jagoffs! Us Stiller fans are here ta kick ass and eat chipchopped ham and there ain't a Giant Eagle or a Sheetz in sight…
(No, but seriously. Pittsburgh in the 70s/80s is the iconic Iron Age city. Take a look at some of the pictures from back then, and try and tell me that it's not Rook City in real life… I mean, when I was growing up, the Loyalhanna Creek ran orange from industrial runoff. I love my hometown, but it's come a long way in the last 40 years.)
Ah'd feed bowchins a jumbo sammich with coleslaw and fries, then take yInz dahn'ere and show ya how we red up 'Sliberty. It's got one of them Targets n'at now. It ain't ratty no more.
Although, I becha they talking about that Harrisburg ya know, yinz gotta chawt for dem jags.
Rook City can't be Pittsburgh, unless the Overbrooks renamed it .Pittsburgh predates the revolution , Rook City was founded after it.
And I’m pretty sure I’m the only one here who understood that.
Brother!