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Ep 40 of the Letters Page: The Guise show!

51 posts · 1236 views · started 2017-10-24 15:26 UTC
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Powerhound_2000
2017-10-24 15:26 UTC
#1

I will start by saying thanks to Matchstickman for not posting this thread already http://theletterspage.libsyn.com/episode-40-guise

I’m saddened by the fact I won’t be able to listen immediately to this. 

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Phantom5613
2017-10-24 16:00 UTC
#2

You and me both, dude. Gotta wait til after work. :/

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Chaosmancer
2017-10-24 16:49 UTC
#3

Well, that makes it kind of awkward, to be the first one with comments...

 

I've gotta say, the "47 different things" he wanted to make just stabbed me thru the heart. I saw it coming, but oof, that was emotional.

 

And I love the Wager Master roommate bit, and especially how that explains them being primary nemesises so perfectly. It is the exact kind of ridiculousness that works for those two characters.

 

But, in the end, I don't know if there was a lot of new information. I mean, we got the exact stories to a degree, but there wasn't a lot of stuff beyond that. I don't know, it just wasn't what I expected for some reason.

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TakeWalker
2017-10-24 16:59 UTC
#4

Guise found Trevor oh no D:

It was everything I wanted, with the big exception of the note at the end where they say the Scholar lives on through Guise and Guise goes to the Void to find the Scholar and make him a new body and they both ride back to earth on a space unicorn rainbow and everything is happy and no one has to die ever again ;_;

No, but the reason why Guise and Wager Master are nemeses is fantastic. I cracked up so hard. :D This really was the best episode ever, and it was all thanks to the best hero ever.

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Jeysie
2017-10-24 17:30 UTC
#5

I was pretty entertained by finding out that the Green Grosser is actually Caleb's (presumably embarrassing) hippie brother who would probably fit right in with the Liberal Crime Squad... but otherwise just kinda found it to be a mildly amusing diversion I admit.

Also Powerhound asked a lot fewer questions than I thought he was going to.

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Powerhound_2000
2017-10-24 17:31 UTC
#6

I can post the Letters I wrote if you’d like.  I wrote three different letters and they all had a lot of questions.  I’m guessing others probably wrote the same questions as I did or they go over it in the overview. 

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padcurtin
2017-10-24 17:31 UTC
#7

I'm a little confused about the timeline, I thought that the Deadline event was before progeny, but this seems to say the opposite or maybe I'm mistaken?

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UXM266
2017-10-24 17:32 UTC
#8

Wait....Powerhound likes Guise? Since when? New to me!

:P

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Jeysie
2017-10-24 17:40 UTC
#9

I was just joshing you, honestly. (Since I wrote a ridiculous amount of questions for Argent's episode and ended up with three that nobody else asked, so I can't actually seriously talk.)

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UXM266
2017-10-24 18:10 UTC
#10

I asked a question about Apostate's Pants. I mena, who am I to judge?

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Jeysie
2017-10-24 18:26 UTC
#11

I do feel like it's entirely reasonable to have an interest in Apostate's pants, tho.

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Powerhound_2000
2017-10-24 18:28 UTC
#12

I wrote a letter with questions directly to Guise and they didn’t go through it oh well.   Having listened now I am surprised I’m the only one who addressed Guise in their greeting.  Overall, I tried to come into this episode with no expectations and I will say this was great.  Christoper and Adam were a bit mean to their guest but he did just barge in. 

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Powerhound_2000
2017-10-24 18:51 UTC
#13

I was hoping to get some information on his Prime Wardens appearance and what happened in Super Ultra Kawaii!!!!

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The_Burning_Stickman
2017-10-24 19:06 UTC
#14

Of all the questions I've sent in, I am so glad they answered the one about Cueball.

(Slightly disappointed they didn't seem to pick up on the "balls are inert" ref, but I guess you can't have everything.)

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Powerhound_2000
2017-10-24 19:40 UTC
#15

So I’m curious why is the first appearance of Santa Guise in the video game listed as The Banana Game #1 when clearly it was part of the “Guise’s Biggest Book Ever Christmas Spectacular!”

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Phantom5613
2017-10-24 19:57 UTC
#16

I must say after listening to the episode, I am NOT a disappoint.

Kinda wish C&A were a bit nicer to Guise since he IS the best and most wonderful hero to ever be in this or any other reality, but maybe they were just cranky since they didn't get their daily morning banana.

Curse you, Green Grocer!

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Lord_Flash_Fire
2017-10-24 21:18 UTC
#17

Scrolling thru Adam’s Twitter for art when I saw this  x.com and thought it was about Apostate.

EDIT: Also, Guise’s warm cocoa idea is genius. Lukewarm cocoa, though…

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TakeWalker
2017-10-24 22:35 UTC
#18

I got it, if it makes you feel any better. Had a solid laugh. :smiley:

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Princess_Cool
2017-10-24 23:05 UTC
#19

Hot cocoa is great and cold cocoa is just chocolate milk which is great, but everything in between is a curse.

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Lord_Flash_Fire
2017-10-24 23:06 UTC
#20

You can lead shark to water, but you can’t make…

Wait…

You can throw a shark in water, but it will have to keep swimming for the rest of its life or it’ll die. 

Just like a horse.

Case closed.

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Princess_Cool
2017-10-24 23:07 UTC
#21

It was a good episode, I'm hoping they get to do some of his time in the Rook City Renegades stories on the next interlude.

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Lord_Flash_Fire
2017-10-25 00:31 UTC
#22

Been listening this entire time, but just finished, and I was scared someone was about to hit me when Christopher and Adam both yelled “SHUT UP!” People around me wondered why I flinched so hard at seemingly nothing. And yeah, Guise and Trevor need to do an episode instead of C&A. That sounds hilarious. Give Trevor one too many beers so he spills the secrets of everything he’s cut, and Guise comments. I will pay money.

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McBehrer
2017-10-25 01:16 UTC
#23

Yay, another one of my questions got answered! That makes 3!

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Theta_Sigma
2017-10-25 05:51 UTC
#24

I also wrote a letter directly to Guise, which didn't get read. Maybe they didn't want him to answer the questions?

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dprcooke
2017-10-25 14:48 UTC
#25

Did anyone else find themselves craving bananas while listening to this episode?  I was listening to it on my drive home and almost made a detour in order to swing by the grocery store (but couldn't because I needed to get some stuff done).

Also, poor Guise... C&A were pretty mean to him, and there were a couple of times I just wanted to give the poor guy a hug and/or Mr Chomps plushie so that he could feel better!

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Powerhound_2000
2017-10-25 14:55 UTC
#26

At least they gave him some sympathy when he was sad about the Scholar ceasing to exist.  

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Chaosmancer
2017-10-25 19:23 UTC
#27

You know, I can't help but feel that the apartment incident gets swept under the rug as Guise stories progress. If he was a less goofy character that would be something that gets brought up as a defining moment for him, but after "The Bannana Game" I don't know if it ever comes up again.

 

Maybe I just wish Guise were a more serious character instread of ridiculous...

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Powerhound_2000
2017-10-25 19:26 UTC
#28

You’ve come to the wrong episode then if you expect Guise to be a serious character.  

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The_Burning_Stickman
2017-10-25 20:15 UTC
#29

I'm honestly just a little surprised Guise doesn't pipe up more during the episode.

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dprcooke
2017-10-25 20:59 UTC
#30

Me too!

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TakeWalker
2017-10-25 23:27 UTC
#31

Gotta say, I also appreciate this episode for making me feel sorry for Green Grosser. D: Like, dude didn't deserve what happened to him and now I want to reform him.

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X-metal
2017-10-25 23:45 UTC
#32

Damn. I don't have time to listen to the episode. I just have one question: do they end up answering any questions by me? Or maybe by revo Corp?

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Powerhound_2000
2017-10-26 00:04 UTC
#33

I don’t recall RevoCorp or your name coming up.  

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Rabit
2017-10-26 00:36 UTC
#34

I was pleasantly surprised to have both of my questions answered… And under yet another name.  :grin:

Getting a little meta, I have a feeling this was due to the way in which they did the episode. I have a feeling Guise recorded a limited selection of things before  Christopher & Adam recorded their part, and Trevor had to fit those bits into the structure of what Christopher & Adam did. Just my perception, though. 

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Arcanist_Lupus
2017-10-26 01:29 UTC
#35

Even if he was present, Christopher and Adam have a pretty well-practiced flow now, and it's hard to insert yourself into something like that without breaking it up undesirably.  

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TakeWalker
2017-10-26 02:30 UTC
#36

If you pay attention, it's pretty apparent Guise is recording in a different space than them. His voice has a slightly different quality.

Which did not help me one bit with differentiating him from Christopher. D: They sound too much alike!

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Chaosmancer
2017-10-26 02:31 UTC
#37

 

I completely agree with your interpretation. Didn't figure it out at first, but part way through I was thinking that it was too choppy to be an actual person in the room with them.

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saykhia
2017-10-26 10:02 UTC
#38

You guys have such amazing attention to detail. Without you all the ARG would still be ongoing today.

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Jeysie
2017-10-26 10:15 UTC
#39

Yeah, this, I had thought it was obvious to everyone. >_>; Guise's voice has a different mic volume, is "cleaner", has less background noise.

And yeah, I did think the VA does sound weirdly a lot like Christopher now that you remind me of it. Not sure why I never noticed that in the game itself before.

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X-metal
2017-10-26 10:29 UTC
#40

I agree. He did sound way too much like Christopher. I'm slowly watching the podcast. I've only made it up to the point in which guise learns the ultimate lesson of thanksgiving: eat ALL the food! I'm still laughing at... I think it was Christopher's green grosser voice. And then they called him the shmeen shmoser. And for some reason I find calling the Beatles the shmeatles hilarious.

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Jeysie
2017-10-26 11:05 UTC
#41

I guess the interesting tidbit is that we now have a very general idea what Caleb likely also looks like (since Green Grosser's transformation just changed his hair and skin color, not his actual looks).

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TakeWalker
2017-10-26 12:20 UTC
#42

I mean, there's a reason Medico snapped him up, after all. :V

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dpt
2017-10-26 14:40 UTC
#43

Who was it who did the excellent Green Grocer cosplay at Gen Con? I thought that Christopher’s Green Grocer voice was very similar to that cosplay. (Maybe they are both based on the video game?)

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Christopher
2017-10-26 14:42 UTC
#44

Oh, I'm going to be completely honest here: I modeled my Green Grosser voice after that cosplayer's voice. I originally had a different voice for the Green Grosser in my head, but that guy just NAILED the character and took over my mental space of how Green Grosser sounds. 

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bobbertoriley
2017-10-26 16:24 UTC
#45

Question that I must know the answer to now that this episode has me interested in the Green Grosser:

 

Does the Green Grosser call his shopping list the Green Grossier?

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MindWanderer
2017-10-26 17:18 UTC
#46

I didn’t really expect them to read my letter this time: I asked if Guise ever shilled for Hostess Fruit Pies. That was before they started the whole “no brand names” gag, after which I was kind of hoping they would read it so that they could blame Guise for overharvesting of the rare and endangered Shmoot.

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Phantom5613
2017-10-26 18:08 UTC
#47

I guess I'm in the minority on this subject, since I think the two easily sound different enough to tell appart, even before the changes in audio quality.

Maybe it's because I've heard both voices seperatly for a while before they were put together in the same 'room'.

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Trajector
2017-10-27 00:31 UTC
#48

In the intro to the future section, I had the sneaking suspicion that Guise sounded like the guy who does, uh, Shmonest Shrailers.

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TakeWalker
2017-10-27 00:53 UTC
#49

That cosplayer has taken over more than your mental space. I went back and looked at Green Grosser's card and was surprised that he was skinny!

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Chaosmancer
2017-10-27 04:43 UTC
#50

 

That is amazing

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LonelyMan
2025-09-17 11:17 UTC
#51

Something I caught during this latest listen, which I missed back when this first went live (Chaosmancer did notice, and presumably others did, I freely admit to being dumb here). When Guise says he had “47 things I wanted to do with bananas!” it’s clear that, as much as he’s still being a goofball, he did notice that something tragic just happened, and this is his way of dealing with it. It’s essentially a sort of trauma response; he’s not going to consciously acknowledge that 47 innocent people just died, but he is going to avenge them and do the right thing, even if he’s refusing to acknowledge that.

(PS C&A tried so hard to keep Trevor insulted from Guise, only to fail at the last second.)