Dangling Plot Threads

Heres a few of the old and new plot threads that have been rattling around in my head as we all prep for Oblivaeon.

1. The Fate of Fyodor Ramovat:

If you read Baron Blade's bio, you'll notice that it never explicitly states that (Grandpa) Legacy kills Blade's father. The actual words are:

"Weakened by the fighting, the factory collapsed in on itself, and Legacy was the only one seen escaping from the burning wreckage"

Now, I tend to think that Christopher chooses his words carefully, and thats pretty telling.  Especially since earlier on in the bio, it was revealed that Fyodor had just finished work on an orbital shrink ray!  Its a very interesting idea to me that Fyodor was shrunk (willingly or unwillingly) and taken prisoner, where his mechanical genius could be used in service of the USA (remember- it was the height of the cold war).  We know that in our history, scientists were prized at the time- think about Operation Paperclip- so to gain the technical expertise of one of their greatest minds while denying them the same would be quite a coup.  And again... this is Legacy we're talking about.  Sure, Grandpa Legacy was a soldier in WW2, and carried a gun...but would he kill an enemy trapped in a burning command center?

I kind of think that Fyodor is currently at FILTER, designing their tech, or Fort Adamant working on the bunker project (remember- one of his greatest successes was making a walking tank), and that when Baron Blade killed Grandpa Legacy, he killed the only person who could have told him the truth.

2. Revenant

I've been stuck on this one for a while. Who IS this mysterious person?

I asked Christopher, and he said "Which Revenant"?  

My current theory is that their are two Revenants- one during the events of SotM, and a different one during the events of Sentinel Tactics.

Revenant 1.0: I'm pretty sure that the Revenant we see doing things is SotM is the Idealist's father, or what's left of him.  We know that the Idealist's mother was trying to bring him back from the dead, and that in the process, Miranda Fischer's mind was wiped. Well, that kind of superscience and cavalier disregard for safety sounds EXACTlY like Revocorp.  They are suspects in ALL sorts of things- the facility that gave Setback his strength (and killed lots of people in the process), Plague Rat's "taming" (which killed lots of people in the process), Ambuscade's powers (which scarred him "horribly" in the process, and he then killed lots of people).  Its entirely likely that they were involved in making Fright Train bigger and badder.   

Now, he's back from the dead, but maybe not quite all the way.  Its entirely possible that he needs the suit to survive- either because he's a cloud of infernal energy (much as doctor medico is an energy form), or because the body he came back to is slightly less than fresh.  Does he remember he has a daughter? 

Revenant 2.0: I'm pretty darn sure that the Revenant we see in Tactics (in silhouette) is the Idealist. I think that she went bad.  Maybe she thinks she's doing it for the right reasons, maybe (prior to the mindwipe) she wasn't a terribly nice person.  Maybe she's trying to harness the power of the Oblivion Shards to get Dr. Medico, Writhe, and Mainstay back from the dead.  Maybe the new Revenant is just an evil version- all of her positivity went into her physical form, and the bad side got shuffled off.  

3. Maia and Tyler:

They are totally dating. In the plot arcs revealed by the Oblivaeon ARG, they sure seemed awfully flirty.  

According to Christopher, "Maia and Tyler definitely have things going on", which could be taken several different ways. I prefer to think that it means they are dating. It could also explain why Freedom Six Wraith went so dark- her first boyfriend getting beaten caused her to become the Wraith- think about what it would mean if another one died while she WAS the Wraith?  That might cause her to take steps like getting rid of the Chairman and Operative, and sampling some of the drugs they were using in an effort to transcend her human limitations...

4. Chokepoint and Writhe:

We know that Eugene Wilkinson initially produced the cloak by way of techology, and in the "Assault on Fort Adamant" section of the ARG, it specifically states that Writhe used his "shadow tech" to gather the intel and upload it.   We know that Chokepoint is all about absorbing tech.  Why couldn't she absorb Writhe's tech?

We've seen a back, spiky, fanged thing standing over Writhe and attacking Setback.  It could be related, and several other people like Foote have compiled excellent threads on the subject.  Maybe Chokepoint couldn't take it because it was alive.  This may well be additional proof that the cloak is more of a living thing than even Writhe suspects. 

Fanatic/Apostate. You missed a MAJOR one here!

Recall in Tactics art that a broken Condemnation is seen in that museum that new Ra finds the Staff in which means it was broken before Tactics takes place. Also recall Apostate is group affiliated with "The Host". Who/What is that? What is the relationship to Fanatic and Apostate. Is what he said true about her? What was his goal coming to Earth in the first place and what happened to him after? How did Fanatic apply the runes to that templar blade and armor to create Absolution and her Aegis? What are they?

There has been nothing said about this entire story line and its been how many expansions now? We don't even get flavor text/art about it outside of Apostate/Fanatics decks. 

Edit: Just read the Q&A thread....I'm pretty sad about it

Foote, I think the payoff with Fanatic/Apostate/The Host will be worth it. Sorry to make you wait.

And how long would it be before more is known about the Host…?

(I can at least try, right?)

I have no doubt it will be awesome. Just let me be sad for a bit that I have to wait though. I'll get over it I promise.

Calling it now:  The Host is going to be one of the final expansion environments.  AKA "The end of the world is here, and an army of angels just showed up as the cavalry."

I think the host is going to be resolved in the tactics portion of the timeline

Love the speculation about Fyodor Ramovat - maybe THAT is the hero Baron we will encounter in OblivAeon?

Based on some of Chokepoint’s flavor text and the fact that she paid off his suit…I’d kinda think Maia is more interested in Ryan Frost. Just throwing that out there.

I thought Ryan had something with Vanessa Long, or was it just theories?

I think there's too much of an age gap between them ,never saw them as a couple

Visionary is still a teenager and AZ is in his 40s if I remember correctly. No way is there anything between them.

OH! I remember something!!!!

There is ONE unidentified character still at large! The villain on PW Tempests incap art!

Edit: one more thing! Who is Deathrattle?

Where was the name mentioned?

Read some flavor text in Gloomweavers deck. I forget the exact card, but Deathrattle is quoted. He is likely a cultist, but if he was important enough to get a proper name, and isn't featured in the deck, then I want to know what the deal is there.

It's on Profane Zealot. Could Deathrattle be the name of the Profane Zealot?

I also noticed Cult Leader Massey is quoted twice. Who is he?

There are multiple Profane Zealot's in the deck. If it was unique (like Ophidia) there would be only one. Thats why I thought maybe it's a cultist, but we don't know.

Cult Leader Massey is just that, the cult leader. The Cult of Gloom, from what I was told by Adam, was around in the comics for a long time, way way way before Gloomweaver made his first apperance. Cult Leader Massey was the main villain pretty much in the comics of this group until Gloomweaver showed up. Not sure why he isn't featured in the deck though.

I’m fairly certain Cult Leader Massey is on the card Vast Following. Perhaps he isn’t the type to get his own hands dirty

Questions to ask on this week's Q&A!

Also, they still haven't explained how Citizen Dawn is connected to OblivAeon yet.  Her power source is listed as "Cosmic", which usually refers to OblivAeon and is different from every other character with a listed power source (Captain Cosmic and Infinitor don't have full bios yet, Cosmitron doesn't have his power source listed, and most of the other characters with innate powers have their source listed as "genetics").  

Is the power of the sun not "cosmic" in a way?

I'd call that "solar".  Although it does sound kind of dumb to say that Citizen Dawn is solar powered.

It's possible, I suppose, but so far, "cosmic" has been used exclusively when referring to OblivAeon.  Captain Cosmic was powered by OblivAeon, as was Cosmic Omnitron.  I think they're too careful with their foreshadowing to use "cosmic" to mean anything else.

About Unleased Visionary...

So Visionary finally detached herself from her Darker self, a dark passenger she caught while travelling between time and space. She now has full control of herself. But where did this dark passenger go...?

On the Genocidal page of the ARG, we see Dark Visionary flying beside Legacy. She teleports away. On the Scion's Aid page of the ARG, normal Visionary is seen in the lower left corner. The Scion talks about how OblivAeon found him(her?) beyond space and time, how it was offered a collar. It is also important to note how intimately the Scion seems to know our heroes.

Ok, theory time:

Dark Visionary is the Scion seen in the Scion's Aid page of the ARG. A few evidences:

-Dark Visionary is present at the beginning of the OblivAeon event, but it is normal Visionary who is in charge toward the end of the events. As powerful as she is (banishing Gloomweaver with nothing else than a dismissive gesture is... impressive to say the least...) why would Dark Visionary give up at that precise moment? Which leads to...

-Why would Dark Visionary teleport away the moment it appears that OblivAeon is coming? Perhaps she knows how to free herself from Visionary and chose this moment to take action by herself?

-Some grammatical clues here and there... Dark Visionary was lingering beyond time and space when she hoped on Visionary's back for a ride. The Scion tells the heroes that OblivAeon found her beyond time and space. Coincidence? Maybe... Also:

-OblivAeon offered the Scion a collar. Could this collar be Visionary herself? After all, Dark Visionary seems to be tied to Visionary in some ways and it looks like she cannot fully control Visionary...

-Dark Visionary, from her bio, is said to be a version of Vanessa who made very different choices. Being an herald of a cosmic entity wishing to destroy everything seems enough radically different than trying to save the world. Maybe that's just me...

-We know that Dark Visionary remembers the heroes when she takes over Visionary's body in the fight against Gloomweaver. That could explain why she seems to know personally every heroes already.

-''Sweet child''. This is how the Scion answers to the Visionary when she enquires why they should help her. It does sound intimate to me, at least...

-Last but not least: Fixed Point. Vanessa Long has to exist in every timelines. If she doesn't, then she couldn't become the powerful Scion who aided defeat the Multiverse ultimate foe...

I might be forgetting some things...

Just a theory...

I LIED! THERE IS ANOTHER!!!

Riot Ray! WHERE IS RIOT RAY CHRISTOPHER!?

Edit: What, no one remembers Riot Ray? He is in SotM art and in Tactics art! And we still know diddly squat about the dude!

Which cards is Riot Ray in?

In Tactics Becons deck, look at the gun.

In The Sentinels deck in SotM, look for the austronaut/spaceman looking dude that Writhe is attacking. I dont recall the card names off the top of my head.

He looks nothing like Ray Manta from SH6. One is a manta ray. the other is a dude in a spacesuit with a gun.

Is Riot Ray the same as Ray Manta of the Slaughter House Six?

The card in the Sentinels deck with Riot Ray is Blackout. 

Foote

Did you notice the bio for the variant Benchmark says ‘angel backed corporation’?

Hell yeah I did!

But evidently an "Angel investor" is like, a real world term and doesn't imply winged persons at all. /shrug. However, it certainly has raised my interest level in where Revocorp actually gets all its money and if Revo is similarly funded in our main timeline as it is in the timeline that S&D Benchmark came from.

Pretty sure Christopher is one who chooses his words carefully and probably used thr word as a double entendre.

What do we know about Revocorp that is bad?

If Oblivaeon lost the wager, I think the Host may have won it.  If they identified this Earth as the hope for existance before Oblivaeon they may have started working to help the planet along, although not always by the methods Earthlings would appreciate.

They rebuild FrightTrain. They were involved in live patient testing of superhuman serums with Baron Blade which produced Setback who escaped. They restrained and experimented on Plauge Rat. Revenant is a bad guy I guess. Probably they have various other things they have done as well. But thats what I can think of off the top of my head.

Yeah, they worked to create more, and better superbeings.

Sounds like something you might do if you knew Oblivaeon was coming and probably weren't counting on Nightmist pulling in heroes from other dimensions.

In the video game, at least one of the newer villains (Kismet maybe?) is being led away in restraints that look an awful lot like those used on Plague Rat.

Maybe, except that I don't think that they did know OblivAeon was coming.

> With all of the shady dealings RevoCorp has been involved in, it’s hardly surprising that they have been playing both sides of the field. They were waiting to unveil Benchmark when a carefully calculated villain plot had disabled many of Earth’s heroes, but OblivAeon seemed an even better opportunity! Either, Benchmark would save the day, positioning RevoCorp as both corporation and savior, or everything would be destroyed and it didn’t really matter then, right?

I do not think Revocorp knew too much about OblivAeon's arrival. In the first update about Benchmark, it states "They were waiting to unveil Benchmark when a carefully calculated villain plot had disabled many of Earth’s heroes, but OblivAeon seemed an even better opportunity!"

To me, that sounds like they were planning something, but the arrival of OblivAeon was better for them. If they knew of OblivAeon's arrival, wouldn't they have always planned for that to be the reveal?

I think that has to do with THe Block. She is quite known for being imprisoned there and frequently escaping.

Angel Backed doesn't always mean Angel run.  It's a long shot, but I think it fits.

I like this. I still think Voss, but this is my second favorite theory so far.