wrath of the cosmos fourth villain speculation

So I was breaking out my vengeance box to fight the vengeful five which I haven’t done in a long time and I got to looking at the WotC ad on the side of the box.

On the box we have 5 clear images
The Thorathian who we assume to be sky scraper.
Captain Cosmos
The androgynous space elf.
The space lizard.
The symbol.

Anyway these guys have been talked about before, I want to talk about the sixth figure that appears on the side of the box on the WotC ad. Now granted we only see a face in profile but from what I can tell it is a human(oid) female with what looks like an orange visor or domino mask similar to what K.N.Y.F.E. wears. I think what we might be seeing is her nemesis, possibly a F.I.L.T.E.R. agent, one who hasn’t quit the agency yet.

That’s pretty much ask I have to go on right now, but I hadn’t seen or heard people talking about this person before so I thought I would bring it to everyone and see what they thought.

Also anyone have any thoughts pin the symbol, other than it possibly being the scholars nemesis?

The Scholars Nemmy being related to that symbol is really the best guess at the moment. It's pretty clear to me thats it is indeed an alchemy symbol which kinda solidifies that (at least in my mind).

Elf-ish Lady. The only solid connection we can make is that the Banners behind her are the same Banners in the Arena where Parse is fighting a giant alien monster. We she her fighting a lot of those kinda things in her deck. My working theory right now is that she is part of the Thorathian nobility, you know, the part of the culture that shunned Voss after his experiments and then got crushed by him. He had instilled many loyal high ranking friends in those non-military possitions. Once Voss took control though, I assume he turned the whole culture into a military state. Hence the banners. I am guessing that Parse, Mainstay, and others, get captured by these Thorathians once they got word that their leader had gone missing (banished to the Realm of Discord by the looks of it). And they pit their new captives against other creatures in the arena (similar to a Hulk:WorldBreaker sort of storyline if you catch what I'm trying to paint here). During their time as captives, I expect thats when they run into Skyscrapper. Also there is more than a good chance of Voss making an appereance, along with another showing from Apostate. But I think I'v gone too far down the speculation rabbit hole here.

Just chiming in here, on all the large boxes, when oriented togethor and stacked on top of each other one side always shows a profile face of a character card from the highest difficuly deck in the set. (Voss, operative, blade) Maybe she’s the tough one?

The person on the side of the box in that ad for WotC looks like Captain Cosmic's profile. You can clearly see his mask and mustache on it.

I agree it's Captain Cosmic. The short box edges show the heroes, the long edges show the villains. However, my question is what is that big blue spheroid in the top segment mostly hidden by the title? Omnitron's cosmic benefactor? Omnitron VI? A planet to fight over? The technological thing K.N.Y.F.E.'s primed to punch? Bouncing Boy?

Is it possible to get an image of what everyone is talking about? I have yet to see it, and I'd love to join in the speculation.

My bet is that's the Thorathian home world, which is one of the environments in the expac. What do I win when that turns out to be true?

THIS CAT!

Woo hoo!

The mentioning of the planets does get me thinking: what if one of the villains was a Galactus style villain? It would fit within the theme of the expansion, and they could make it so that the villain deck "consumes" environment cards in order to get stronger/reach game over. Not saying I think its likely, but it would be cool.

It's certainly a mechanic we don't have yet - we have villains which destroy/steal our stuff, and who destroy (or get some kind of bonus/ability from the destruction of) their stuff, but so far none who specifically target the environment. Oh wait, except Akash'Bhuta…but as far as I can remember she never targets it herself - she just does stuff when other things destroy environment targets…and then it's only environment targets so most of the text on her main card is rendered useless if you fight her in the Freedom Tower :D.

About the symbol, since we’re speculating that is connected to the scholar I’ve looked into alchemical symbols and their meaning.

Here’s what I have so far:

The inverted triangle, the triangle itself symbolizes the trinity, this can either be the Christian trinity or I’ve read any other trinity. The fact that it’s upside down can symbolize water or divine grace/knowledge/inspiration/influence what ever. The downward point is the direction water flows or the flow of divinity from the heavens/cosmos/space to earth/humanity.

The vertical line represents humanity, the line can symbolize our spine. It can also symbolize the journey from earth to the heavens

The circle, infinity/unity/wholeness.

The small circles at the triangle points, I’m actually at a loss here, I’ve seen them on aqua vitae, saltpeter and some other things.

Anyway what’s all this mean when brought together? No clue really, maybe someone here can make sense of this.

I’m thinking with the talk of trinities it could be a way to tie Atlantis, sentinels Egyptian mythos and this expansion together, although I’m sure I’ve heard that floated around here before. Maybe it answers whatever the host is, what with the space elf and the figures on the backs of apostates card having the same nose shape. Maybe it’s nothing and shapes are just pretty.

Interesting idea, especially if it just takes them from the top of the deck and doesn't take them from play…

Oooo… And what if, when it has consumed all the environment cards, it wins.

Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. It would make sense; the 15 cards in the environment deck could be seen as a parallel to the 15 cards Baron Blade needs in his trash to win. Maybe Not-Galactus consumes a card at the start of each turn, but if the heroes do a certain amount of damage, they stop him from eating for a round?

Or if he keeps cards under his character card, and has a mechanic for removing them, like La Capitan?

While I get where you're coming from, I feel like that would almost make him too easy. If this is a Galactus style villain, it would likely have to be the hardest of the set.

Plus if he's "consuming" the environment, losing those cards would signify vomitting.

Or failing to eat them, if the aim is to stop him.

Also have you played any Marvel games where you fight Galactus? He's usually a disappointment. Just kinda big, really. 

Hopefully if we get a villain like him, it won't be another Akash'Bhuta-style fight.

Maybe take them from the bottom to out of the game?

Maybe a combo of both? He places cards under him and then out of place. If not-Galactus gets a certain amount of cards out of play, he wins. There could be a way to return them back from under him, but not from out of game.

Meh. The cards under him end game timer smells too much of Blade for my tastes, and, while having a nice ouroboros feel to it (if Greatlactus is the end game villain) I expect it to be more than that, something we haven't seen before.

What I would like (and this is of course wild specualtion or it wouldn't be in this part of the forum) is a villain that has no HP and is defeated by sacrificing part of your deck somehow, the ultimate expression of heroism is sacrificing yourself afterall.

Only problem I'm having with this line of discussion is that Galactus isn't a villain.

I honestly don't think the big cosmic villain is going to be in WotC - I think it'll be in the final set. I think WotC is going to be build-up to that, giving us a glimpse of the worlds and realms beyond the Earth of Sentinels.

Just a guess, though...

Nobody is a villain in their own story.

Actually, Reed Richards argued the point in his trial. Galactus, as defined within the scope of the Marvel U, is a force of nature.

There are pleanty of things in the Sentinels Universe that are "forces of nature" but are still targets. Just cause it's a "force of nature" doesn't meant mankind doesn't need to be protected from it.

As for saving the Galactus villain for the last set, yeah, I see how that makes sense, but he would fit really well with this theme. If he were to be in the last expansion too, it would pretty much have to be another space based one, which seems a little redundant.

Akash Buta is a force of nature. She is nature. 

Just because it's a target and mankind needs protecting from it, that doesn't make it a villain.

Since I agree that the Galactus villain should be saved, make a silver surfer/herald type character. Still fits theme, fits the timeline and builds up the story in preparation for the "final battle". Although from what we've heard from tactics I'm starting to think the final act of the story is going to be more super v super than super v world ender of doom and despair and being mean.

Also I know the silver surfer is a hero, so I give Terrax as another herald who isn't a good guy

Its about perspective. It can be a villain in the game without being a "villain". The Dreamer, by all technicallity, is a hero.

And I'm not sure how I would feel about having a herald in the game along with a galactus villain. It seems a little too on the nose as a straight up copy of it. But, if there was a herald, I feel like it would be part of the not-galactus deck instead of its own thing. Maybe like a second character card, like with Kismet, and there could be ways of making him be a good guy and help. Or maybe the herald is one side of villain character card and not-galactus is the other side.

This is all speculation on speculation at his point though. For all we know, the 4th villain could actually be an army of tribbles.

... Now that I've said that, it sounds awesome.

What is a herald but an emissary of sorts? Where have I seen an emissary before...

Deep Space Nine?

I would not want to go up against the Sisko, I would hate to have to slap myself around everytime he played a card.

What if Galactus is the herald? The real big-bad is Huginn merged with Muninn.