The Story of Edwin's Life and philosophical discussions or something

Story of my life.  Other people have inherently generous and self-sacrificing natures, so they make me feel like feces for not measuring up to their unreasonably high standards.  It must be nice coming from a bloodline of virtually Utopian souls, to whom charity is no sacrifice, who have nothing better to do with their time than go the extra mile in treating their fellow human beings kindly.  Really, you're great.  I only wish you didn't have to hunt my kind to extinction in order to dominate the planet, since I wasn't fortunate enough to be born like you.

Your kind?

I am confuse.

And I have a feeling we maaaay be having someone step in on this conversation shortly...

It's not "unreasonably high standards" to be a little bit considerate of people other than yourself, by maybe pressing some keys in a slightly different order. And your feelings are your own, and I take no responsibility for the way you respond emotionally to my comment (since I did nothing threatening, abusive or disrespectful to you).

The problem is, you seem to want people to bend over backwards to accommodate you and provide you with what you want, but show absolutely no signs of reciprocating. You take, but don't give. And no society will tolerate a freeloader for very long, especially one who demands so much. 

People who are lazy and self-serving and think we have a right to be that way, that it's normal and natural and that we shouldn't be faulted for it.  I think it's human nature, and if you're better than that, then good for you - but not bad for me.  Don't try to guilt me or lord it over me, just because you happen to have a different personality and make friends more easily and not feel like it's any sort of a sacrifice to do things for other people's benefit - because to me, it is a sacrifice, and I feel that I should be praised for the rare occasions on which I manage it, not frowned upon for failing to do it more often.

And I have a feeling we maaaay be having someone step in on this conversation shortly…

I hope not.  I have tried to be adequately genteel and reasonable during this conversation.  My apologies if I have been unsuccessful; I am policing myself closely on this issue, as I know it is an area in which I need improvement.

My beliefs on economic justice are perhaps better not gotten into.  Suffice to say that I will never, never agree that "freeloading" is a worse crime than being merciless toward those unable to pull their weight.

Of course it's a sacrifice - no one said doing things for others costs nothing. The world would be a much better place if charity was "free", because then more people would do more.

Sure, revel in your own personality if you want. But don't expect people to continue to scratch your back if you claim that scratching theirs is too much work for you. And if you're going to spend your life being a dick, don't expect praise for the occasions when you're not quite as much of a dick as usual when you make it patently obvious that you're not even bothering to try. That's a bit like saying, "well I didn't stomp on any puppies today… so give me a cookie!"

Mods usually do intervene when things get out of line. 

Unable, or unwilling? You're telling me you're physically, mentally and/or emotionally completely unable to title your threads appropriately and seperate out your questions so that people other than yourself can find them more easily? Seriously?

I have no issues with people who are actually unable to do particular things. I have a disability myself, and find there are often things I can't do or that are so difficult or painful that I might as well be unable to do them. But I contribute in other ways, and I at least try, and it's not unreasonable to expect others to do the same.

Behold, the mercilessness of asking people to do a tiny thing for anyone other than themselves.

It's an issue of presence in mind.  You're telling me I'm not allowed to just create a thread, that I have to follow these rules you've made up for how threads are to be created, even though I see no benefit to it.  That's like forbidding me from crossing streets in the middle of a block; sure, there are potential problems, but I have the right to say that I've looked both ways and there's clearly no oncoming traffic and I want to be over there right now.  People deserve to have a certain degree of autonomy in the choices they're allowed to make.  If you're so concerned about the effects they might have on society as a whole, you fix the problem, since your'e the one who considers it one; don't put it off on those who have other things to be interested in.  I don't have much of a problem with my threads being retitled behind the scenes, by mods who think that's a productive use for their time.  That's their decision to make; creating the thread in the first place is mine, and I don't see any reason to bestir myself.  Your arguments about the benefit of search have not been convincing to me, so I continue to do what I think is best; if others disagree they can act as they see fit and leave me out of it.

Okay, here we go again...

This forum belongs to >G. They set the rules. Members are expeted to follow them (as is the case on every other forum everywhere, as well as in clubs, organisations, anythings else set up by a person or people for the purposes of other people joining in and interacting with each other). It's entirely up to >G what kind of rules they want to set on their own forum.

Being polite to other members is one of the main rules of the forum (as it tends to be on most forums, at least the ones I've been on).

If you can't be arsed to be polite to other members but expect them to be polite to you, that's your decision.

As this is >G's forum and you seem to consider yourselves above/beyond the rules, don't be surprised, therefore, if you get a(nother?) warning and/or ban for your behaviour.

That's all there is to it. Don't like it? Be nice, or don't post. Sorted!

Thank you all for keeping this civil.

To help support Ameena's point, I will remind everyone that the Greater Than Games forum (as with most forums) has official rules (and a separate set of discourse rules, although I don't think those are related to the current conversation).

To be clear: Rules 4 & 5 specify obeying the Admins and Mods. We don't ask much (if you disagree, please let us know!), but we do ask that threads be clearly identified in their title and that separate questions are asked in their own thread. (I'll note this is a common practice on other rules-related sites - we're not exactly re-inventing the wheel, here.)

Keep on saving the Multiverse...

Why are we even talking about this kind of thing again?  This kind of "the world hates me so I can't be bothered to follow its rules" talk got us to a bad place before, and I don't think we want to go there again.  Let's take our lessons learned from last time and shut this down fast.

You're welcome.  Envisioner tells me that was always his intention, he just isn't very good at it, and I'm making an effort to do better, though I don't know very much better than he did.

We don't ask much (if you disagree, please let us know!)

I'm doing so, and people are telling me I shouldn't.  To be clear and businesslike about it, my contention is that these rules aim to regulate and mandate something that neither can nor should be so tightly controlled; it's like telling a tree where it's allowed to grow.  Prune a conversation here and there if you must, but don't try to stop it from growing organically in the first place, as that's the entire point of its existence.  The bottom line is, I'm here to have fun, not to work toward what someone has decided is a responsibility I'm required to fulfill.

Okay, we're done.

Edwin: You believe we're asking too much of you to appropriately label and split threads.

This is not an onerous nor challenging request.

That is not the point of its existence.

You will notice we only care about this on rules questions. The purpose of rules questions are two-fold:

1. Answer the OP's question
2. Provide answers to people coming later dealing with the same concern

Clear titles: It takes no extra effort on your part to follow this rule, as you already have to provide a title, anyway.

Individual threads: Yes, creating multiple threads for different questions requires extra work. This extra work is far less than the amount of time, stress, and frustration we've had to deal with in telling you to follow the rules.

Hey Edwin can we just agree you disagree with the forum rules, and this conversation is not going to go anywhere productive and end it. If you strongly disagree with the rules I would send a PM to one of the mods and stop arguing here so you don’t follow in Envisioner’s footsteps. That’s not something you want or that we want.