39 posts · 2907 views · started 2014-02-03 02:16 UTC
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phantaskippy
2014-02-03 02:16 UTC
#1
So, for those that have the Vengeance Box, non-sleevers, what arrangement are you using to fit everything?
Sleevers can answer too if there is something you want to say, we just don't care about you and your plastic cards.
I'm just wondering since all of the stuff so far fits so nicely in my box. (I put the hero character cards in alphabetical order behind the villain/environment cards on one side, and the rest of the hero cards on the other)
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Craig
2014-02-03 02:32 UTC
#2
I have all my heroes and my bag o' tokens in the Enhanced Edition box. Villains, environments, and oversized cards are in the Vengeance box. Both have room to grow.
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arenson9
2014-02-03 03:27 UTC
#3
I am a sleever.
Not only that, but I've made no effort to get sleeves that fit particularly well.
It was to my great surprise, then, when I found that my sleeved cards would fit on the left side of the Vengeance box. This assumes that the oversize villain card area is at the 'bottom'. I found that the left and right sides of my Vengeance box were different widths. The sleeved cards did not come very close at all to fitting on the right side.
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broccoli
2014-02-03 04:50 UTC
#4
I use the premium greens, so mine are a little thicker. I've got all but Unity, Visionary, and Wraith in my EE box. Then I've got all villains and environments in my RC/IR Box. In the Vengeance box, I've got Unity, Visionary, Wraith, and 2 extra Legacy decks (1 was swag from the party) all on the left side. I've got my oversized Villains cards, and all the counters in the middle, and I've got my stitch counters (it's what I use for hero/villain hp) on the right side.
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Reckless
2014-02-03 06:20 UTC
#5
I'm not cool enough to use the premium greens like broccoli, but I use the regular greens! I put all of the heroes in the Enhanced Edition box, and all the villains and tokens in the Vengeance box. Environments are split about 50/50 between the two.
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Silverleaf
2014-02-03 07:30 UTC
#6
You're making my OCD upset, you guys. All the things that are the same types of things need to go in one box! No splitting up heroes or environments for me...
It's bugging the hell out of me having the Dark Watch Setback promo card in the box because I can't put it in its rightful place between the Scholar and Tachyon. But if I move it out of the box I might lose it.
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isles
2014-02-03 07:50 UTC
#7
Ive managed to sleeve my entire Sentinels set in clear Ultra Pros. Heroes all fit snugly into the original box. Villains and Environments both fit cleanly into the IR/RC Box.
Im with Silverleaf on the OCD, I had my Villains and 1/2 my Environments in a WoWTCG box until the release of the second big box. It drove me crazy.
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Koga
2014-02-03 09:08 UTC
#8
I bought a complete new set of cards when thet reprinted and made the RC/IR box, still need to replace my ST set, CR and OX are getting really worn down. I've sleeved all my new cards this time, heros in EE, villains/environments in RC/IR. I'll have a 2nd copy of all but Vengeance once I replace ST. I may be rearranging some things once Vengeance arrives.
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Katsue
2014-02-03 19:23 UTC
#9
You should just leave Setback with Expatriette. Then you'll know where he's supposed to be at all times.
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skoticus
2014-02-05 16:04 UTC
#10
Seriously! Everything is alphabetical and everything has its place and Setback and I are both feeling quite out of sorts because of it.
–I don't have Vengence yet (any day now, I hope), but I am planning on having all the heroes and environments in the EE box and the villains all in the Vengeance box. In alphabetical order not counting the articles (even the Spanish one) because that's how it's done if the world is to remain sane.
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Silverleaf
2014-02-05 16:20 UTC
#11
Agreed.
The only one I can't work out is Miss Information. Mr Fixer is under F, La Capitan under C, The Wraith under W, but Miss Information's name pun makes me want to put her under M, since I think of her as Misinformation which clearly doesn't belong under I.
Still haven't decided about her. Both options feel wrong.
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Koga
2014-02-05 16:23 UTC
#12
I keep all my heroes in the EE box and my villains/environments in the RC/IR box, though I put the vengeance lid on it. I use an Iris photo case for my oversized cards, they fit in perfectly and don't slide around much, the vengeance box has a little too much space for them.
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broccoli
2014-02-05 16:37 UTC
#13
Hmm, the RC/IR box with the Vengeance lid....*waits for Silverleaf's head to explode*
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Koga
2014-02-05 16:47 UTC
#14
I have some OCD myself and with a few custom heroes in my EE box and since we need the extra space for WotC, which my customs are using right now, I needed to put my environments elsewhere. I have villains on one side and environments on the other, with the vengeance villains behind the environments and some of the foam inserts in between. The new villains don't quite fit with the others so needed to be seperated.
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Silverleaf
2014-02-05 17:21 UTC
#15
I don't actually have OCD but I'm very particular about things being in sensible places. I can't find things unless there's logic.
I hadn't thought about where to put the V5, but I totally agree they don't belong with the regular villains. I'll probably put them in alphabetical order, but with all of them at the end of the villain section.
My friends laugh at me, but it honestly does bother me if things aren't "right".
I'm planning on getting the Cauldron fan expansion available on BGG once it's complete, and it'll take a lot of mental juggling deciding where to put them. Do they integrate, or stay in their own section? I dunno.
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broccoli
2014-02-05 17:32 UTC
#16
Believe me, I'm the same way. I grew up with a shrink for a dad, so I know the terminology. We're not OCD, but we have Obsessive Compulsive Traits (OCTs). Generally speaking, the difference is both of degree (it isn't crippling) as well as quantity (average people have a few OCTs, people with OCD have lots). I'm the same way with sleeving as well as things being in a logical order. Personally, I put all the V5 villains where "Vengeance Five" would be alphabetically (thus currently at the end), and they are sorted alphabetically within that.
My worst OCT by far is with regards to losing things. I can't STAND to lose things. It usually triggers a mild to severe panic attack, and I usually have trouble sleeping if I can get past that. I also sort my closet chromatically. I'm just weird like that.
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Silverleaf
2014-02-05 17:58 UTC
#17
Yeah, I have a psychology background so it's pretty familiar to me too - I think we all have at least mild OCD-like traits and it's because the stereotypical behaviours like hand washing, checking the security of perimeters (like making sure the modern doors and windows are locked), rituals, etc, would have been important to our survival in our evolutionary past, keeping us safer from infections and attacks and improving group cohesion and such.
That's my excuse. My genes make me do it!
I'm not a sleever because many games don't fit in the original boxes if sleeved, and I don't care about a bit of wear. I am definitely a component bagger though, because things must be segregated. I also prefer to have things in "player bags" if that's feasible, so everything the player needs can be easily handed to them at the beginning of the game, and they can put their own bits away afterwards.
My clothes are ordered by type and then length. Long clothes (dresses with long skirts, longer skirts or shirts with longer sleeves) occupy the left hand side of each type section, with short things on the right. I'll usually avoid similar colours together for ease of identifying individual items.
My games are also organised by size, for efficiency of storage on shelves.
And I'm weird about food too - I have to eat meals consisting of several different foods proportionally. If I have chicken and peas and corn and rice, I can't allow myself to finish the rice before I've started the peas. I can't even eat half the chicken and only a tiny forkful of the other things - I want my meal to be essentially the same meal throughout the eating process, only getting smaller.
I know. It's ridiculous.
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broccoli
2014-02-05 18:16 UTC
#18
My mom and sister are the same way for eating. In our family, we call them clock eaters, because it's like they make clock-like trips around the plate. A little of this, a little of that, repeat, with the ultimate goal being to have exactly one bite of everything left at the end of the meal. As a kid, we used to screw with our mom by pulling a "look over there" and then stealing a bite to make it uneven. We were mean kids. Myself and my brother-in-law are what we call food separatists. We don't like any of our food to touch. We eat all of A, then all of B, etc, usually saving the best for last. However, if a portion has a pre-designed separation (like a sandwich cut in half or a fruit cut in fourths), then those portions can be considered individual portions. My father has to mix all his stuff together into one giant pile.
Human behavior is so fun.
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BlueHairedMeerkat
2014-02-05 18:23 UTC
#19
And to be fair, obsessive separatists are every bit as odd as us obsessive clock eaters :P I tend to turn into a mixer about halfway through a mea, but that's at least partially to ensure that it all gets finished at the same time...
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jagarciao
2014-02-05 18:26 UTC
#20
I think [mis]filing her under "I" would be very thematic
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Silverleaf
2014-02-05 18:47 UTC
#21
Oh yeah, mixing. Completely valid. I often do that too, cutting everything up into tiny little bits to help with even distribution.
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youperguy
2014-02-06 12:04 UTC
#22
I have put all of my Villains and Enbironments in the Vengence box and Heroes in the EE box, but... this won't work after WotC comes out. My Vengence box is almost full already and there is no way it will hold all Vallians and Environments with 4 more Villains and two mroe enviroments.
I see two plans that might work:
a) Put the environments in with the heroes in the EE box.
or
b) Put the Vengful 5 in with the heroes.
I will probably got with a), but I am not sure yet.
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Silverleaf
2014-02-06 12:37 UTC
#23
Can someone please measure the length of the card slots in the Vengeance box please? I have to plan...
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dpt
2014-02-06 14:55 UTC
#24
"Mr." and "Miss" are not articles, but titles; I file them both under "M". "Grand Warlord" is also a title; where do you file Voss? The other titles I see are "Baron" and maybe "Iron". "Capitan" could be considered a title, for that matter.
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Silverleaf
2014-02-06 15:04 UTC
#25
I figure if I was alphabetising "real" people who don't have hero names, it's correct to do it by surname rather than title. In this case Fixer is in place of his surname so he's going under F.
Voss is under G for me. I think of those three words as his whole name, but I'm not entirely comfortable with it.
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lynkfox
2014-02-06 15:29 UTC
#26
I only drop The from Dreamer and Chairmain to sort them under D and C respectively. The rest I consider full proper noun names because they are Villains, and La Capitan is her proper villain name, whee as you could get away with Chairmain or Dreamer. Or Sentinels instead of The Sentinels. ...
its just alphabitizing by the world The annoys me. A lot. :p
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Ronway
2014-02-06 15:33 UTC
#27
I have my cards seperated by expansion, and then alphabetically.
Currently Heroes are in the Infernal Relics/Rook City box, while Villains and Environments are in the Vengeance box. After the next expansion though, Envirionments are probably going to be moved over with the heroes.
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Blossercubbles
2014-02-06 16:41 UTC
#28
To keep ample space to finger out decks, I keep the Environments in the large well of the Vengeance box, over the oversized villains and kept in place by the heaping bag of tokens (since I now have enough space to keep all of the tokens in the game instead of cherry picking a select assortment like I've been doing up until now). Villains in Vengeance, Heroes in the Enhanced Edition box.
I'm struggling if I want to seperate the Vengeful V to be in their own section at the end of the villain line-up or not. On one hand, they are clearly one entity and cannot be seperated like the other stand alone villains, but they also have their own oversized cards, thus showing me that they can be sorta on their own, but not really, since they need other Vengeful V in order to get out of the box...whatever. Right not their seperated alphabetically, and that might just stay...for the moment.
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broccoli
2014-02-06 16:45 UTC
#29
Same. I strip "the", but otherwise I organize by whatever comes first on the divider card.
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McBehrer
2014-02-06 20:37 UTC
#30
I have my heroes separated by expansion, and then in order of group affiliation (so I may have to rearrange to accomodate the Prime Wardens...) and the villains organized by nemesis. So villains aren't even organized by name, just what order their nemeses are in.
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phantaskippy
2014-02-06 21:28 UTC
#31
Mister Fixer gets treated as a title, not as if Fixer is his last name and you are referring to him thus, so he goes under M for me, same for Mis Information.
They are part of the title, but I will admit I'm not fully sure that is correct.
I put La Capitan under C, that article isn't any more important than The in The Argent Adept or The Visionary.
I sort Voss in at G, and Iron Legacy is an I, but the Indestructible Bunker is under Bunker. I think that is a comic book title, and not part of his actual title, just like America's Finest, Greatest and Young aren't getting alphabetized, they seem more Character card oriented instead of Deck oriented.
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Spiff
2014-02-06 21:56 UTC
#32
They are part of the title, but I will admit I'm not fully sure that is correct.
I agree with that. You wouldn't alphabetize Uncle Sam under "S" anymore than you're alphabetize Mr. Fixer under "F".
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Envisioner
2014-02-07 02:15 UTC
#33
So could "Doctor", but when they have no other name (or too many other names to remember)…
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grysqrl
2014-02-07 04:38 UTC
#34
I'm a little sad that no one has gotten to the point of sorting by actual names (e.g. Lillian Corvus, Faye Diamond, Anthony Drake). I figure we're the group for that sort of thing.
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Arcanist_Lupus
2014-02-07 15:22 UTC
#35
Fixed.
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phantaskippy
2014-02-07 19:04 UTC
#36
But then we are sorting by last name right? I thought about it just to be clever, but I started looking them up and ordering them and got confused.
So Clever wasn't really in the cards for me.
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dpt
2014-02-08 02:58 UTC
#37
The problem with sorting by real name is that promo cards sometimes have different last names.
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Benhimself
2014-02-08 03:34 UTC
#38
Okay, going by "main" characters last names instead of promos, counting Fanatic as "H" for "Helena" because we don't know her last name (I could also see putting her first, under the principle that empty space is alphabetically first?), and the Sentinels as "Sentinels", the Heroes organized by real name would be:
Chronoranger
Unity
Expatriette
The Naturalist
Tempest
Nightmist
Argent Adept
Absolute Zero
Fanatic
Parse
Knyfe
The Visionary
The Wraith
Omnitron-X
Legacy
The Scholar
Setback
The Sentinels
Tachyon
Bunker
Haka
Mr Fixer
Ra
And the villains! Again, The Ennead are just as "Ennead" Baron Blade is tricky, but I'd but vengeful blade second because he's chronologically later version.
Kismet
Akash'bhuta
Apostate
Citizen Dawn
The Matriarch
Spite
The Ennead
Gloomweaver
Fright Train
La Capitan
Grand Warlord Voss
Friction
Ermine
The Dreamer
Ambuscade
Omnitron
Iron Legacy
The Chairman
Plague Rat
Baron Blade (x2)
Proletariat
Miss Information
And for those whose need for alphabetical organization trumps convenience, Heroes AND Villains! I used the same "youngest first" for people who not only have the same name but are, in fact, the same person. Surprising number of them in this game!
Kismet
Akash'Bhuta
Apostate
Chronoranger
Unity
Expatriette
Citizen Dawn
The Naturalist
The Matriarch
Tempest
Nightmist
Spite
Argent Adept
The Ennead
Absolute Zero
Gloomweaver
Fright Train
Fanatic
La Capitan
Parse
Knyfe
Grand Warlord Voss
Friction
Ermine
The Dreamer
The Visionary
The Wraith
Ambuscade
Omnitron
Omnitron-X
Legacy
Iron Legacy
The Chairman
Plague Rat
Baron Blade(x2)
The Scholar
Setback
The Sentinels
Tachyon
Proletariat
Miss Information
Bunker
Haka
Mr Fixer
Ra
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Reckless
2014-02-08 05:55 UTC
#39
I'd go with "H". My mom is adopted, and there are many adoptees that have original birth certificates that have a blank entry for "name". It can be a bit of a sore point. Regardless of her "given" or "original" name, Fanatic is Helena. I'm sure you were referring to the name as "(Blank last name), Helena," rather than "(Blank as a whole)", but I'd definitely go with her name rather than a blank space. It just seems to be more in spirit of identifying characters by their "non-hero" names.
It's a rather minor point in the grand scheme of things, but I thought it might be worth mentioning!