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What Shattered Timelines Hero/Villain/Enviro are waiting to try first?

50 posts · 4809 views · started 2013-03-05 06:58 UTC
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fba827
2013-03-05 06:58 UTC
#1

 

So based on Shattered Timelines preview information we know that ....

Heroes: Omnitron-X, Chrono-Ranger

Villains: Iron legacy, Dreamer, La Capitan, Kismet

Environments: Time Cataclysm, The Block

(not counting miniexpansions or promotionals)

 

With that said, with Shattered Timelines being sent out over the next few weeks ...

I do not doubt that they will all be fun and will all get played by me very quickly... but which hero are you looking to try first? which villain first? which environment first?

it can be for reasons for mechanics or story or whatever...

 

personally?  as said i will quickly try them all out, but i think the ones i'm looking forward to trying first are omnitron-x, dreamer, and the block.  the reason for those choices is purely personal preference (for hero, the story for omnitron-x appeals to me more; for villain it sounds like a different game mechanic to try; and for environment just curious to see how they did it)

 

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Kiric
2013-03-05 07:16 UTC
#2

Chrono-Ranger (only because my roommate called omni first.) Dreamer (again, the new mechanic looks fun) in the time cataclysm.

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Blossercubbles
2013-03-05 11:28 UTC
#3

Well, I've promised to not read through Miss Information before playing her for the first time, but I do think she's my most anticipated antagonist. But, no matter, as she is a mini-expansion and thus not technically a part of Shattered Timelines.

 

I'd go with Dreamer (Visionary is one of my favourite characters and I am very excited to see her story continue, especially in such interesting mechanics), Chrono-Ranger (while I don't think much of him as a character, I know we'll get along swimmingly mechanicaly, which is far more important in the long run), and Time Cataclysm (mostly to see what is there, really).

 

I can safely and happily say that I don't see any portion of this expansion sitting in the box forever being talked about more than actually played, very much unlike Her Avian Majesty or a certain grafitti-specked city.

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j1hopki1
2013-03-05 12:33 UTC
#4

Sorry, I'm including the mini-expansions because I'm so excited about all of it.

I feel that very little has been released about Miss Information. The mystery is impossible to ignore. I agree on no reading through her deck before playing her. That would wreck the mystery. (If I have to pick a ST villain it'd be the Dreamer since we'll be rescuing her. Rescuing victims from Spite isn't always satisfying.)

The Scholar looks fun, but I have to know how what pieces of the old Omnitron are in Omnitron-X's deck. If it puts out hero target drones it could rival Unity as my favorite hero.

Is the Time Cataclysm a collection of old environment cards? Which ones? (That was a rhetorical question. Don't spoil my surprise.)

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Koey
2013-03-05 13:17 UTC
#5

Miss Information definitely sounds pretty awesome to play. Having the Freedom Five against would just be great thematically.

 

 

Actually Dreamer sounds interesting and part where you're saving the Villan definitely sounds good.

 

Iron Legacy against Freedom Six also seems really fun just for the heck of it.

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Ronway
2013-03-05 14:13 UTC
#6

My first game when I get Shattered Timelines will probably be using Omnitron-X, Chrono Ranger, and Scholar against Kismet in the Block.

 

Too excited to get my hands on the game though. I'll jump for nurse Joy when I get it!

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arenson9
2013-03-05 17:00 UTC
#7

I'm most looking forward to the Final Wasteland, actually, but only because it is the one deck I never got around to trying during playtesting. I'm also quite curious to try Kizmet with some of the changes that were made later in playtesting that I never got to try out.

Beyond that, I am most excited for La Capitan and the Time Cataclysm. I'm also looking forward to The Block and Silver Gulch. The environment decks have really surprised me by being in the forefront of what I've enjoyed about this expansion and mini-exansions.

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Blossercubbles
2013-03-05 19:42 UTC
#8

That is a great thing to hear, about environments being in the fore. Most people I play with (that have played the game quite a bit) have opinions on which heroes or villains to use, but when it comes to environments, the response is usually 'Not Rook City' or 'Whatever'. It would be fantastic to bring out some favourites when it comes to environments, too.

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flamethrower49
2013-03-05 20:29 UTC
#9

I'm excited to play the Dreamer and the Scholar, and to be able to allow players to finally really use Chrono-Ranger and Omnitron-X.

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flamethrower49
2013-03-05 20:30 UTC
#10

I think I'll have a lot of fun with La Capitan fights, as well. 

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Cosmonaut_Zero
2013-03-05 21:37 UTC
#11

Based on the rules, I have to say Omnitron-X, Dreamer, Time Cataclysm.

Although to be honest Miss Information is the single deck I am the most excited about. I think her theme is rad, and I can't wait to see how she plays.

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BlueHairedMeerkat
2013-03-05 21:51 UTC
#12

I'm most excited about Miss Information and The Dreamer, but I get the feeling that Kismet and La Capitan will hit the table earlier; I'll only be getting the base game when ST comes, and with all my players not yet knowing what SotM is I'll probably try and break them in a bit before trying out the more unconventional villains.

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Matchstickman
2013-03-05 23:54 UTC
#13

Just finished a game against Miss Information, via the G+ Hangouts, she was who I was most interested in going up against... and I wasn't disappointed; Awesome fun!

Thank you Ronway for running the Villain deck

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Alex
2013-03-06 00:09 UTC
#14

Kismet! Either we'll win or I'll beat everyone else! XD

That aside, I want to fight Iron Legacy, because I never got around to playesting his final version.

All the villains are pretty unusual this time around! Most "conventional" is probably La Capitán, in that she's a big boss with a bunch of underlings to fight. That's actually the level of detail needed to differenciate the ST villains from each other! It's great.

Chrono-Ranger is my most anticipated within ST, The Scholar if we're counting mini expansions, and the Argent Adept if we're including all the heroes I will now have access to.

Oh, and BlueHairedMeerkat, from my experience Kismet is a bit tricky for new players. Her specialty is making everyone's decisions more difficult and offering extra ways to plan ahead, which can be daunting. The Dreamer will be easier( I think) for new people to grasp; there's things to fight and one thing you protect, but everybody usually has something to do.

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Koey
2013-03-06 01:26 UTC
#15

It's interesting how Miss Information went from the least excited Villan when she was the assistant to the most excited based on how she was released. Gotta say >G did a good job at advertising her.

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Matchstickman
2013-03-06 02:43 UTC
#16

I always thought she was the most interesting, the traitor from within is something I adore.

However, people are far more ready to complain/share disappointment at something they dislike than they are to say they are looking forward to something. For example I have not said the hero I am most looking forward to is Chrono-Ranger, I have been looking forward to him since Rook City's soft reveal... but I have said nothing on these forums.

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XChylde
2013-03-06 02:45 UTC
#17

I just really like Chrono-Rangers look. Like Roland Deschain from the Gunslinger crossed with Cable from the X-Men. Looking forward to putting him and Omnitron X on the table immediately. Maybe beat on Baron Blade or Omnitron just to get them warmed up. 

CZ
Cosmonaut_Zero
2013-03-06 07:18 UTC
#18

Yeah, I defended her vehemently when her art was first revealed with the Assistant name. The idea of somebody completely innocuous-looking being the villain is attractive to me.

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Spiff
2013-03-06 07:22 UTC
#19

I agree that >G did a great job of turning around Miss Information. When she was first revealed, she was just The Assistant (weaksauce), with almost no supporting info to give you an idea of why she'd be interesting (she sounded to me like a villain who gets you by bringing you coffee that's too hot). But when they revealed the name change to Miss Information they also gave us more of her saboteur flavor so that we could form a better picture of why she'd be awesome to fight.  I'm now looking forward to playing her in a way I didn't anticipate when I first heard about her. 

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Alex
2013-03-06 08:15 UTC
#20

The environment I'm most excited about is the Time Cataclysm. There is a card in that deck that seems to be forshadowing a future environment that takes place in Baron Blade's lair. Also Mister Fixer has a small chance of playing multiple tools and styles at once when a certain card comes up.

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drstein
2013-03-11 15:11 UTC
#21

For those that have tried Miss Information, how hard would you rate her? from 1 to 4? I wanna do the villains in increasing order of difficulty (and not knowing anything about them)

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flamethrower49
2013-03-11 16:18 UTC
#22

I think Miss Information is perhaps a 3, possibly a high 2. 

My suggested order for you would be Kismet, La Capitan, Miss Information, the Dreamer, and Iron Legacy.  The difference between Advanced and not might change some of these orders.  (Mine are always for advanced.

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Zalrus9
2013-03-11 20:33 UTC
#23

As of this post, I have fought all of the villians except for Iron Legacy (I think that showdown might happen tonight, right after I finish some prior work). All in all, The villians seem very challenging and fun at the same time, without them seeming too unbalanced like some of the Rook City ones. The heroes are also good, and I got to say, The Scholar is now my new favorite Hero, narrowly beating Absolute Zero, at least based off of his fluff (he's like Iroh meets The Dude meets Dumbledore! It's great!). Still working through his intricacies, but I think he'll be my go-to hero for a long time. Omnitron X is pretty cool looking, but I don't like how I play him; his innate power is WAY too tempting to use, and sometimes it doesn't work; I'll need to see how he plays in future. Chrono Ranger is also a dangerous guy to play as, as he had cards that make him VERY vurlnerable to damage, but he's quite the damage-dealer to be sure. Cannot wait to play with some of the other guys on Google Hangout (Thanks again Ronway! Sorry I've not been to them very often!)

YO
youperguy
2013-03-11 20:36 UTC
#24

My daughter has declared that we will start with Miss Information, when shattered timelines gets here, which I guess will come next week.  

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drstein
2013-03-12 06:59 UTC
#25

Yesterday we played Kismet, La Capitan and the Dreamer. We did not know anything and got random 3-player teams (each with a new hero, and 2 promo cards).

 

Boy, they were easy! Specially the dreamer, which we killed in 3-4 turns. The new heroes seem  a bit too powerful, but maybe it was because of a very lucky combo, or some player synnergy. We definitely have to try this game more!!

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TheSoundOfTrees
2013-03-12 10:02 UTC
#26

Our experience is different : my only (yet) play against the Dreamer ended in a few rounds with all heroes down. She kept calling projections faster than the team was able to deal with them - and the fact that the environment kept trying to hurt the poor girl did not help :(

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Ameena
2013-03-12 10:31 UTC
#27

Hey Drstein, surely if you "killed" the Dreamer, you were doing it wrong? ;)

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lynkfox
2013-03-12 12:04 UTC
#28

 

yeah i was going to say… Kismet can be hit or miss, and if La Capitan steals to many of your cards at once she can be a reaaal pain. But the Dreamer, im pretty sure you mayh ave played wrong? 3 turns seems really fast to be able ot take down 5 projects after youve flipped her … But maybe you were just that lucky!

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drstein
2013-03-12 12:37 UTC
#29

I was definitely lucky, but the matches were as follows:

 

WARNING: Spoiler on the mechanics

With the dreamer I had alternate visionary that was controlling her deck (and killed an illusion with a 1 shot). Alt. Wraith obliterated another one (impomptu invention + tartetting computer in starting hand), and Tempest stratosfeered the last one.

 

In all, after 1 round she flipped, and we lost no ongoings. After that she would place 1/2 illusions per round which were killed by wrath and tempest. I think visionary ended up speeding the dreamer by placing the card that brings more illusions.

 

For la capitan we had omni X who had melee/projectile/toxic plating, which ended up absorbing/redirecting most of the damage. Bunker and Absolute zero quickly set up and started dpsing la capitan. Adds were mostly killed by the environment (block), and TLTachion.

 

Haka and Absolute Zero obliterated Kismet: Abs had two of the cards that destroy 3 ongoings (hence jinx cards were gone in a sec). Haka got 2 dominions, and started getting many many cards. A haka of battle hit her for over 30 once to finish her off. I htink that the scholar just sat down and watched :)

 

Yeah, the 3 matches were lucky...and we have to go to advanced modes. But in my defense, none of us knew the decks in advance

YO
youperguy
2013-03-12 13:07 UTC
#30

How many projections can Visionary kills with a one shot? I don't have the game yet, but I am curious. As I recall she only has 2 and 3 damage one shots. 

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lynkfox
2013-03-12 13:38 UTC
#31

ah, so yes you had an extremely lucky game - trust me,she does not go that easily most times :)

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drstein
2013-03-12 14:49 UTC
#32

 

Visionary killed the ape (it has 2 life and destroys equipment on death, but there was none in table), Wraith killed another (ordinance+ targetting computer FTW), and Tempeset stratosfeered the third one, harming the dreamer for 2 damage. That was the only time in which we attacked her, then we focused fire on adds. We played on normal, but the result would have been the same on hard mode I think.

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neverislupus
2013-03-12 15:00 UTC
#33

I keep hearing about these Google Hangout games. How does one get involved?

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smafdi
2013-03-12 15:07 UTC
#34

 

Check out the events forum, there's a thread stickied at the top. Ronway usually posts several hours in advance when he's planning on running one.

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lynkfox
2013-03-12 15:38 UTC
#35

search plus.google.com for the SoTM community (there is only one now) (or look at the New to SoTM Forums sticky at the top, its linked) and join it, then under the graphic there is a little bell, turn that on - it will email you whenever an update occurs, and as smaf says Ronway usually posts a couple hours before he starts one. He's not going to have time this weekend to run any (he usually does 1-3 a day :P) but i might, as my spring break starts friday.

YO
youperguy
2013-03-12 15:58 UTC
#36

Cool, are most of the projections 2-3 hps, or is that rare? Just curious.

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drstein
2013-03-12 16:43 UTC
#37

No, of course not. But our strategy was Visio kills the weakest, Wraith goes for the middle one, and stratosfeer the one we cannot kill in a turn. 

YO
youperguy
2013-03-12 16:46 UTC
#38

 

Since I am still waiting for the game how would I know? All of Grand Warlord's Voss minions have 3 hp. Thus my question.

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drstein
2013-03-12 17:11 UTC
#39

 

Consider the illusions as the Operative's thugs: the most dangerous ones have 2 life, some have 7-8 life. Most of them do damage at the end of the villain turn + give some debuff (like one hero cannot play cards, on death you must destroy an ongoing/equipment, etc…). I feel this villain is a watered down Operative where you must be careful with AoEs…but I have to play her a couple more times.

YO
youperguy
2013-03-12 17:24 UTC
#40

Thanks for sharing. Seems like if enough of the illusions have 2-3 hps it will be pretty easy to flip her for just about any group. 

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Reckless
2013-03-13 04:48 UTC
#41

Have fun starting out with a Dark Hero and two Granite Onis at the beginning of the game.  Two DR 2 targets with six (?) HP that hit the lowest HP Hero.  That makes for a frustrating game!

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drstein
2013-03-13 08:47 UTC
#42

 

Do not think the dreamer is a pushover. Indeed I was very lucky, but she has several cards that say "search through your deck and bring H-1" illusions into play. Also, she plays many cards in a round…so beign swarmed by illusions is a possibility. The more I think on it, the more I think that my team was the best possible against her (2 heavy hitters + visionary): Wraith did 5 damage in the first round, Tempest stratosfeered another…and then we had the visionary controlling the pace of Dreamer's deck.  As always, a heavy hitter (like Ra) will not have problems in killing illusions, but a good support player (like visionary) will prevent them from appearing. 

 

She is indeed on the easy side of the villains (hence a 2), but that does not mean that it will be cakewalk.

 

 

YO
youperguy
2013-03-13 10:14 UTC
#43

 

How would I know if she is a pushover? Even though I Kickstartered this, I won't get it for at least a week. 

 

Thank you for giving more information, I really apreciate it. Was the 5 damage from Wraith needed? If there are a lot of 2 and 3 hp illusions then Haka could take out two in the first round with his Taiaha. Now if 2-3 hps illusions are rare then she sounds a lot harder.

 

If 5hp is needed then Wraith is only going to have that on the first turn like 10% of the time, and most other heroes won't as well. Although if all of the starting illusions had 5hp or less, a rampage might be worth the gamble.

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SSJ3Godzilla
2013-03-13 13:15 UTC
#44

I thought Dreamer was a 3?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSK3smXXois - 13:24 shows the character ratings.

Looks like CR and X are a 2, IL is a 4, Dreamer is a 3, and Kismet and La Capitan are both 2's.

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Alex
2013-03-13 21:34 UTC
#45

The Dreamer is indeed a 3.

I think she's probably my favorite villain from this expansion. She's a mostly conventional villain with a small but challenging twist.

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lynkfox
2013-03-13 22:55 UTC
#46

(cough wiki cough) i updated it! :p

 

(sotm.wikidot.com)

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dragon2439
2013-03-14 01:40 UTC
#47

I cannot wait to play omnitron x. Omnitron is my favorite villian (thematically) and i love villians turned heroes. I have been scouring the forums for all the tid bits i could find about him. 

 

I keep checking to see if mine has shipped yet, but sadly i wasnt part of the kickstarter because i didnt discover this amazing game until after. I wonder if there is an update on how close they are to kickstarter shipping completion. 

YO
youperguy
2013-03-14 02:10 UTC
#48

Last update today was P.  

 

So it this rate it will probably be Monday before they finish Kickstarter. 

 

The distributors are allowed to sell this Friday, so if you order online elsewhere you might get yours sent Friday. If you ordered from the Greater Than Games website probably Tuesday. Some FLGS are claiming they will have it on Monday, probably only a few, but if you are lucky you might be able to get it latter next week.

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TheSoundOfTrees
2013-03-14 03:33 UTC
#49

With H=4, so far the Dreamer has been the more challenging of the ST villains. But I haven't played against Iron Legacy yet.

I hate Whipacorns ! :) Especially when them come by two, and are joined by a dark hero :( The exquisite dilemna of having high damage group attacks that could save your life and not using them...

Kismet is great fun. I like the choices she gives you each turn, and her theme of luck mastery is very well implemented. I can't wait for her "bad luck" nemesis to show ! A well deserved win for Alex ! "Ooooops, did I hurt you Fanatic ? Sorry, but this Jinx was too much..."

La Capitan has been fun too - I think the best strategy against her seems to be "kill the Captain". Except she has a crew. That keeps returning and hurting. There are times were I think of her as "the chairman - but fun!"

These three villains are now high on my list of favorite adversaries :thematic, fun to play, hard but not too hard. I like ST ! And Miss Information is a perfect villain to add to the mix.

Omnitron-X has been a surprise - I din't expect him to be so effective. It's a great tank, and he can become an incredible damage dealer with the good cards and a lot of ennemy targets... I have to test him against the Matriarch !

I like Chrono Ranger - the bounties are a great idea, and feel like a very unique mechanism. My first use of him was against Plague Rat, it was a memorable fight, as with bounties, infection bonus, nemesis bonus and a little help from Visonary, he was able to deal from 10 to 25 hp damage a turn - until the rat finally put him down. It was really a "nemesis fight" were I felt how much these two were "related" and hated each other.

I have to test the Block further, but it has been a real fun environment to play in : with a little thinking you can manage to have the cards help you a lot, until you make a mistake and the situation runs wild. Again, very thematic.

For now (I only have a few plays and still have to test he time cataclism and IL), I think it is the best of the three expansions : very thematic decks that are tactically fun to play, difficult but not overwhelming.

And then there is "I will show you what Tanking in pyjamas means" Scholar. My new favorite.

 

YO
youperguy
2013-03-14 10:22 UTC
#50

Trees,

 

Thanks for sharing. It sounds awesome.