31 posts · 3441 views · started 2012-12-15 02:15 UTC
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fanaka66
2012-12-15 02:15 UTC
#1
I was teaching the game to a new player. He said he wanted to be a hero like Spiderman. I wasn't sure which one would be the best fit, so he said, "How about Green Lantern?". I wasn't sure about that one either.
For a lot of heroes, it's easy to pick a close counterpart, but I couldn't come up with a good one for either of those 2.
Any ideas?
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Nielzabub
2012-12-15 03:04 UTC
#2
Can't really think of one for either of them since their themes and powers are pretty specific.
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Koey
2012-12-15 04:11 UTC
#3
I always felt Plague Rat reminded me a lot of Lizard Man, and the fact Chrono Ranger got his arm "bit" might make him the homage to Spiderman. In addition to any western themed he has.
Green Lantern would be something I also love to see. Closest resemblence to energy attacks I can think of is Nightmist as she also has the Elder Ring. Or maybe Agent Ardent, with the melody that destroys ongoing/environment has the closest GL resemblence image
Though neither heroes have SoTM counterparts.
PS. Speaking of which surprised of all the heroes seen so far non of them have animal powers.
EDIT: Or say Legacy cause he got a freaking lantern on his chest and a legacy ring :P
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Ronway
2012-12-15 04:11 UTC
#4
Mechanically I think Spider-man would fit more under the Wraith than anyone else, soley for the fact that both are acrobatic type characters, that use gear for some of their powers. I could see many number of the Wraith's cards being reskined to fit the theme, other than the one about her fortune as Spider-man is not that type of character.
As for Green latern... I kind of want to say NightMist or Visionary. NightMist has a lot of spells which have various effects that the ring would probably be capable of pulling off if he was in there. Even her Mistform could be considered much like when Green Lantern goes defensive with a shield. For Visionary she actually has his shield in the form of her cocoon. She probably fits the role of a Green Lantern better as I think he would be more about control rather than the damage dealing type.
Of course these are a bit of a stretch of comparings, but they work fairly well mechanically. Theme wise is most definitely impossible at this point, but maybe soon there will be one?
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Ronway
2012-12-15 04:14 UTC
#5
Tempest can freak out fish by talking to them. Currently there is an eel in therapy classes after his encounter though.
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Koey
2012-12-15 05:17 UTC
#6
I guess that is kinda true, forgot his draw 3 cards. Rarely get to play Tempest myself.
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j1hopki1
2012-12-31 16:00 UTC
#7
Matriarch controls birds. Plague Rat has animal powers. But, those are villains. No animal heroes, yet.
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Ameena
2012-12-31 18:26 UTC
#8
There's a doggy on the Vernal Sonata card, making friends with Tempest while the Adept looks on ;).
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Alex
2013-01-01 22:35 UTC
#9
Green Lantern's main thing is being able to create objects with his imagination, right( I don't know much about superheros)? That's sorta like Unity...
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Ameena
2013-01-02 00:15 UTC
#10
Or the Dreamer (sort of)...? ;)
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Alex
2013-01-02 00:23 UTC
#11
And as for Spiderman, his primary strength is his superior reflexes and agility, enhanced by his power to shoot string and cling to walls. His backstory is that he became a vigilante after the death of a loved one, and now tries to balance his daily job and secret midnight crimefighting. So, I'd say he's most like The Wraith. She's kind of a combination of Batman and Spiderman, in the same way America's Finest Legacy is like a combination of Captain America and Superman. Also, The Wraith seems to like leaving tied-up criminals for the police to find later, like Spiderman did in that silly 60's cartoon show.
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Reckless
2013-01-02 00:57 UTC
#12
I've always felt The Wraith was highly inspired by the premise "What if Peter Parker became Batman?"
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Edwin
2014-02-23 00:39 UTC
#13
Well you've got Setback now for Spider-Man, minus the spider part. And soon you'll have Captain Cosmic, who very well might have a lot of Green Lantern about him.
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bessyrocks12
2014-02-23 17:34 UTC
#14
The Idealist is probably the closest to Green Lantern.
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Ax_kidson
2014-02-23 23:15 UTC
#15
This is what I was thinking
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Silverleaf
2014-02-24 12:24 UTC
#16
Way to resurrect a thread that's over a year old...
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Chaosmancer
2014-02-24 14:21 UTC
#17
This is comic books though, nothing ever truly dies
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Foote
2014-02-24 14:24 UTC
#18
Lets leave Necromancy to the high fantasy folks. We have enough to deal with on our hands with all the cosmic entities and such
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phantaskippy
2014-02-24 14:45 UTC
#19
Wraith is batmanesque, but she is way cooler.
Tachyon is like the Flash, if the Flash was awesome.
Legacy is like Captain America and Superman, but with a better story than either.
I can go on and on. I actually grew tired of Comic Books once I got into classic literature and found that the original versions of those stories were way better than the ones played out in comics.
Also I was raised by a single Mom and was always around feminists, so the mysogenistic tendencies in comics really turned me off.
I think Christopher has really captured a love of comics, with a better sense of epic storylines and less of the blech that finds its way into most comics.
I understand that that is probably easier to do when you aren't actually trying to sell thousands of comics, but just the world in which the stories happen, but it works for me.
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Silverleaf
2014-02-24 15:00 UTC
#20
I have to admit to getting bored of these "Sentinels Character X is Comic Book Hero Y" comparisons. Sure, many do seem to be inspired by existing comic characters and fulfil many if the same tropes, but they are completely seperate entities and deserve to be considered within their own context.
It can end up being a bit like, "The bald eagle's just like an osprey. They both fly and have some white feathers and stuff." "No, I think the Northern Loon's more like an osprey than a bald eagle is. Bald eagles don't even eat fish!" "Bald eagles totally eat fish!"
We can enjoy Sentinels without dragging other stuff into it, right?
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Reckless
2014-02-24 15:39 UTC
#21
I prefer recognizing homages rather than claiming a character is basically another established character. Dr. Blake Washington, Jr. becoming Ra with The Staff of Ra is a clear homage to Dr. Donald Blake becoming Thor with The Hammer of Thor, for example.
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byc
2014-02-24 17:25 UTC
#22
That's why I usually use archetypes, not direct comparsions.
Setback is the hard luck everyman.
Legacy is the paragon of goodness.
Haka is the heavy.
Omnitron X is the robot.
Etc.
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dlott1988
2014-02-24 20:19 UTC
#23
I only use the analogs to get new players' attention. Then, when we're in the thick of things I spring trivia on them.
Everyone loves a good trivia assault.
Example: I kept good friend from quitting their first game by explaining Tachyon's peronsal life and relation to How I Met your Mother. However, they only picked Tachyon because she was "like Quicksilver..."
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McBehrer
2014-02-24 23:23 UTC
#24
That which is dead cannont die, but rises again, harder and stronger!
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Rabit
2014-02-25 00:05 UTC
#25
During demos at cons, pointing out that Haka is a kindergarten teacher after talking about how he likes to beat down evil with a smile on his face tends to get a laugh from folks...
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holycrapihavemail
2014-02-26 20:15 UTC
#26
I think the Argent Adept is the closest to the Green Lantern. His powers are based on a music theme instead of a color theme, but it's still about his imagination. He has different power instruments instead of different colored power rings. He's an order of order against chaos instead of the lanterns good against evil. The titles "Virtuoso of the Void" makes me think that the earliest power instruments came from space.
(I've also seen people compare the Virtuoso of the Void title to the Sorcerer Supreme title that Doctor Strange has, but I think Nightmist is a closer match to Dr. Strange, due to the overt occultism of her deck, which Argent Adept doesn't have).
Someone else mentioned Captain Cosmos as a possible Green Lantern match up, but until he gets published, I'd go with Argent Adept. Also, Captain Cosmos could just as easily be a match for Captain Marvel, or Adam Warlock, or Starlord... It's hard to know which way that name will go.
As for Spiderman, I'll agree with the other voices comparing Setback to Spiderman. The power is different (luck manipulation rather than webslinging and wallcrawling) but I think Setback has the strength and agility of Spiderman, and both are down on their luck an astonishing amount. I think of Setback as a mix of Spiderman and Longshot.
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Edwin
2014-02-26 20:20 UTC
#27
I didn't notice the date; it was in a search result.
[quote=“Silverleaf”]
It can end up being a bit like, “The bald eagle’s just like an osprey. They both fly and have some white feathers and stuff.”[/quote]
Works for me…
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Ironic
2014-02-26 21:19 UTC
#28
So, allow me to test my understanding.
A new player looking to get into SotM wants to know what analogues there are to to some favorite characters.
And your answer to this person is, "definitely start by playing either Argent Adept or Setback."
I feel I must be missing something.
Ironic
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holycrapihavemail
2014-02-26 21:28 UTC
#29
Well, when you put it like that, it sounds like bad advice…
I was just thinking about analogs, not introductory advice.
I mean, for a new player, I'd just list the six complexity-1 heroes, give them some quick analogs (Superman, Surfer Hulk, Pyro-Thor, Alien Namor, Batman, and Agent of Shield Cyclops) and go from there.
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Ironic
2014-02-27 14:51 UTC
#30
Hee - I adore hearing people's analogues!
Though for this particular player, I think I might call KNYFE something more like "Punch Lantern," you know? She's got energy projection powers and a military background, it seems legit.
For Spidey, I'd go for Tachyon - she's got the snarky personality, highly-kinetic style, and love of science - it may not be a perfect match, but any Spiderman fan would really enjoy her art and flavor, so it would probably work out.
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phantaskippy
2014-02-27 16:09 UTC
#31
No I like it. Mandatory Setback for first time players.