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How did you discover SotM?

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Riffian
2012-06-29 14:43 UTC
#1

I’ll preface this by saying the title question probably doesn’t apply to the people who created the game! :stuck_out_tongue: and also by introducing myself.
Hi, my name’s Jonny, been lurking on the forums about a week now and decided to join the party. Mine’s a pint of ale.

My wife’s from California but lives with me here in the South of England, so we recently returned to CA to visit her family. While there we wandered into Capitola Mall to visit an indie bookshop we’d been told about. It had a great selection of games, and we got chatting with the shop assistant about what we’d been playing recently. She recommended Sentinels to us - I was sold on the comic book influence alone - and we returned to buy the core set later in our trip.

We didn’t have a whole lot of time left in our trip to play, but my brother-in-law and I started by trying two heroes each against Baron Blade. The mechanics took me by surprise - Blade’s trash grew before I realised we had to stop it - and we lost pretty quickly. By that time we had a decent idea of how things worked, though, and we took Fanatic/Haka and Legacy/Tachyon for our second outing. We were a lot more successful that time!

Since returning to the UK we haven’t had a chance to get our usual suspects together for a proper four-player game, but my wife and I have played through a couple more times - with two heroes each, as before - taking down Blade and most recently Grand Warlord Voss. Kristina’s already a massive Wraith fangirl, while I’m taking the time to try out every character before I find my favourites (early indications leaning towards Tempest, though). I’ve yet to play Wraith, AZ, Fanatic or The Visionary.

So how did you guys find Sentinels - and how was your first experience?

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Craig
2012-06-29 15:30 UTC
#2

My experience isn’t incredibly novel or anything. I was at GenCon last year, where >G made their first appearance. I was wandering through the dealer hall, and Christopher made a compelling pitch to give a demo a go. I played Ra and had a blast. Came back a little later and bought my copy. One thing I can say is that Christopher is one heck of a salesman. I was pretty much broke at the time and sacrificing proper eating to buy games. That meant a game had to be really special.

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FanaticLover
2012-06-29 15:32 UTC
#3

My friend came over and brought a couple of games, and he had brought Sentinels. We played against Citizen Dawn with 5 characters. I think they were the Wraith, Tachyon, Fanatic, Bunker and Legacy. We actually won by a lot, but we looked through her deck at the end and we hadn’t shuffled very well, as all of her “ouch” cards were at the very bottom.

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Riffian
2012-06-29 16:19 UTC
#4

I partly blame my first defeat on bad shuffling. Legacy drew a lot of bolster/redirect cards but no attacks, Tachyon had several HUD goggles in succession, Chris couldn’t get enough variety into Bunker and Ra was being held off by Elemental Redistributor. We were doomed.

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arenson9
2012-06-29 16:40 UTC
#5

I knew Christopher previously. With some trepidation I tried out his game, hoping it didn’t suck so I wouldn’t have to figure out how to be nice about it.

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Rabit
2012-06-29 17:01 UTC
#6

A friend (that arenson9 guy, above) had met Christopher before GenCon’s release last year. He told me to check out the >G booth. I went first thing when they opened the exhibitor hall (I usually get there ~8:30 for the 10:00 opening ::)), and couldn’t find the booth. :-\ (Turned out the booth number was wrong.)

Later in the day, I got the right booth number and wandered over. Met Adam and Christopher, then had a quick demo from a lady helping at the booth that went okay. The demo didn’t go well, but I saw a lot of potential in the game.

However, I don’t buy games I can’t play with my spouse (as it’s just not worth the money to have a game just sitting on the shelf), so I brought her back on Saturday and Adam demo’d for us. The demo went really well. We left and talked about it for a while, and she said she was highly entertained by the flavor and concepts, and she thought it was a great game for the two of us to play together.

I went back on Sunday and bought it. 8)

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Tegulus
2012-06-29 17:20 UTC
#7

I actually heard an advertisement for it on the Icosahedrophilia Podcast. I thought it sounded interesting. But, as I am wont to do, promptly forgot about it after I got out of my car. Soon thereafter, my wife and I discovered cooperative board games. We decided to look for more and my brain said, “Hey! Wasn’t there something about a cooperative, superhero, fixed-deck card game? Something with that many adjectives has to be cool! You should totally look for that.” Never one to argue with my own inner-psyche, I looked it up on the Icosahedrophilia blog and then ordered it online. We were hooked before we finished the first game. I promptly went back online, because I had seen something about an expansion in my searches. We had just missed the Kickstarter for Rook City, so I checked the SotM website and forums at least twice a week, waiting for it to come out so I could give >G my money. :slight_smile:

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lugaru
2012-06-29 17:38 UTC
#8

Did a demo at PAX East… what is interesting is that I was on a low budget and was only gonna buy one boardgame, and they sold me on it over other gorgeus and fun games.

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Spiff
2012-06-29 17:56 UTC
#9

I was in Seattle visiting a friend when we wandered past a game store with SotM in the window. My friend went off to do something, so to pass the time I looked it up on BGG on my phone and it got good reviews so I resolved to pick it up at my local game store when I got home. Turns out, I couldn’t get it at my local game store because it was still so new and you could only get it from the web site at that point (the Seattle game store must have picked up copies from the designers directly, since I think PAX had happened the weekend before).

In any case, the fact that I had idly wanted to check it out but then couldn’t check it out meant that now I HAD to check it out. So I ordered a copy online and have loved it ever since.

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Vyolynce
2012-06-29 18:23 UTC
#10

A friend at game night had asked for the game as a Christmas present. Turns out his friends/family aren’t good at communication and he got two copies. He brought it to game night and we played it. The next day I asked him what he was going to do with his extra copy…

…which is now mine. And, amusingly, will probably also wind up being a gift for someone down the line once EE comes along to replace it.

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Gnipp
2012-06-29 19:07 UTC
#11

So…

I run events for Fantasy Flight Games at GenCon. This has some great advantages, but a minor disadvantage is I don’t get to spend the same amount of time in the dealer room as I did in the past. I count on my friends to keep me informed of the booths to check out. Not one of them mentioned SOTM to me, however one of the players in my events mentioned to me that there was this neat game called SOTM. He said it was fun and so on Sunday after my event commitments were done I had some small time to wander the hall. I saw the SOTM booth and was able to get in a demo. So, I’m horrible with names, but the person running the demo was somebody’s wife(I’m soooo sorry I can’t remember your name) and I played with one other new person and a 3rd player sat down who had played earlier.

I got to play Bunker and I had a blast. Here was the key: “The demo woman was single handedly the best demo person(male or female) I have ever had at GenCon” She was enthusiastic, knew how to play, and made the demo experience great.

Insert Rant: It amazes me on a yearly basis the amount of poor demo people GenCon has. I mean these people are there to promote games and whether it is rudeness, little knowledge of what their teaching, just not seeming to care, or something else many, many sales are lost. If you are going to goto a con and show your game, please, please make sure the people you have running the demos are competent I once had a demo person who was actually pretty decent and after the demo was over I told one of the other gamers in my group that they should buy the game. He listened to me and a few days later we played. The game was not that great. Come to find out the demo person did not teach us the rules of the game at all. I’m not sure if he made them up or maybe if it was the rules from an earlier version, but he definitely didn’t teach us the real rules…

Exit Rant(Sorry about that):

So, after play I was hooked. One minor problem. The GenCon game budget was gone. I mean it was Sunday. I was tapped out. I spoke to guys to see if they would be interested in any FFG product(hoping I would use the credit I had earned there) in exchange , but no one took the bait. So I left GenCon with no SOTM…

And all my friends heard about it. I’m sure they were like “Shut up about it already!”, but they were nice. Then one day at work a buddy of mine called me at work to say he was on lunch and stopped at a game store. “What was the name of that game you’ve been talking about?” “Sentinels of the Multiverse?” “They got a copy here, you want me to grab it for you?”

And the rest is history…

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Riffian
2012-06-29 19:15 UTC
#12

Having gotten more into gaming outside of the basic household ‘family’ games (Monopoly, Clue, Scrabble and so forth) I’m definitely gathering the impression that I need to find a local convention, gameshop or comic book store and acquaint myself with more gamers. Sadly they’re fewer in the UK than they seem to be in the USA, unless I want to travel to London or somewhere… :-\

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Reckless
2012-06-29 19:23 UTC
#13

I saw it on a list of great Christmas gifts on The Escapist. The folks got it for me for Christmas. A few days later, I found out the store I had worked at for four years (my first and only job) was closing down and I was gonna be laid off. Happy New Year! So, I called up two of my best friends and just said “Guys…I feel pretty crappy. Can we just try this new game out and have some fun so I don’t have to think about this?” We played Baron Blade in Megalopolis with Tempest (me), Bunker (friend), and Fanatic (other friend). We won and had a lot of fun doing it! We played a few more games that night and a couple of times that week. After that, we started exposing our friends to it. I now have a Sentinels group that roughly consists of ten to fifteen people. It is rare that we play the game with less than four players!

Fast forward to now: I’m $225 poorer, playtesting Infernal Relics, and eagerly awaiting my crate filled with SotM IR swag!

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Riffian
2012-06-29 19:28 UTC
#14

Pretty much exactly the same thing happened to me a couple of years back. I worked for Borders Books UK (which split from the US company a few years before that) and we got news the company was collapsing - right before christmas 2009.
Luckily I jumped ship in time to get a christmas temp job at another bookstore. Ended up working there for another six months before I moved away…

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pwatson1974
2012-06-29 19:30 UTC
#15

Oi, what’s wrong with London?? :wink:

You might want to check on http://www.meetup.com. I don’t know if there’s a board game group near you, but it’s a good place to find out. And if you do suffer from insanity and make it up to London drop by the Red Herring Pub on Good Street (near St Pauls) Tuesday or Wednesday evening and you’ll find a lot of gamers to play pretty much anything you like with (London on Board on meetup, just for info). Me and my copy of SotM will almost certainly be there.

And to answer the qusestion, I can’t remember where I got it. I’m pretty sure I happened to see somethiong on BGG and that sparked my interest but I can’t remember where I bought it from, or my first game. But it’s definitely my favourite game right now. Well, I say answer the question but that really doesn’t answer it, does it?

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Riffian
2012-06-29 19:38 UTC
#16

Ahahaha, tbh I need an excuse to visit London more often, I only live in Brighton, just don’t have the money to travel as much as I’d like. Cheers for the heads-up though, I’ll definitely drop by if I get the chance ;D

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Dryden
2012-06-29 20:05 UTC
#17

I remember my first time… Playing SotM of course. I went to my local game shop after a year hiatus and was really looking for a game that would bring me back to card games. There were still the classic MtG tcg and Yugi stuff but I wanted something more, something new and fun. I then turn and there behold I saw the SotM box. I will say the art was the thing to first catch my eye then the theam. So I asked so many questions that they just ended up demoing it for my friend and I and it was love at first sight.

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ketigid
2012-06-30 16:23 UTC
#18

I chance upon the title Sentinels of the Multiverse because someone used it to create a forum thread in another forum that I frequent. The name caught my attention. I look it up at BGG, saw Tom Vasel’s and Jeremy Salina’s video reviews and right away knew that it’s going to be a sleeper hit! I bought it right away, and even convinced a friend to buy his own copy before I had even played my first game.

And now this forum became a forum I frequent. :wink:

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Smilinbrax
2012-07-01 04:14 UTC
#19

I missed one of Richard Launius’ game days and was jealously reading a geek list from someone who was there. Launius liked it, and Frank Branham thought it was okay. I loved the fixed deck concept and bought it for a friend and i to play at lunch. We developed an each player takes two turns each round variant but found the game was a bit easy because of this. It wouldn’t work with the H mechanic at all. I loved it and he thought it was okay. Strange how that goes. He and I both love magic (cheap EDH/Commander magic) but it didn’t have the same impact for him.

So now I am in Sacramento instead of Alpharetta with one night a week to game and it doesn’t hit the table as much as I would like and I can tell you why: all of my sleeved cards are in a Thunderstone box so nobody sees it for what it is. >G advertising would go through the roof if only I had a box that fit my game. ::slight_smile:

Patiently waiting for my enhanced edition now. :wink:

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UXM266
2012-07-23 18:05 UTC
#20

I was at PAX East 2012. Was invited last minute. LOng story short, I only went because my brother wanted to go, and for silly reasons, he couldn’t go If I didn’t.

After seeing the Panel I wanted to see I just wandered around. I saw Sentinels. Thought:

  1. Super-heroes? Check
  2. Co-op? Check
  3. Cool Art? Check
  4. ? ? ? Check?
  5. Profit for >G

I then bought the game, the expansion and helped their kickstarter.

Love it ever since!

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Orphanleni
2012-07-23 23:49 UTC
#21

PAX Easter 2012 I met all the boys at Greater Than Games through friends of mine that had met Christopher on the JoCo cruise. My friends convinced me to play and got me hooked, Christopher ensured my awesomeness if I bought a little bit of everything (and I am way more awesome now because of it). Lugged it back to New Jersey on two trains a bus and a car ride and then showed all my friends.

Edit: Totally spelling or something

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Rabit
2012-07-24 00:28 UTC
#22

Ha! Shiny. :slight_smile:

Were you able to get in on the Infernal Relics Kickstarter?

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Veet
2012-07-24 01:06 UTC
#23

Friend of mine bought a copy at PAX last year and I played a couple games with him and his daughter on a camping trip. Ordered my copy online on our way back to civilization as soon as we were within range of wireless communications.

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Orphanleni
2012-07-24 01:41 UTC
#24

Yes I was it came up a few weeks after PAX, I’m standing by the mailbox everyday waiting for all the goodies. I will chip in every time these guys do anything. And I’m a huge fan of the buy before it exists model they’ve adopted on kickstarter. I’m going to buy it anyway, I’m going to even pre-order it, of course I’ll pay ahead of time to make sure it happens.

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arenson9
2012-07-24 03:02 UTC
#25

Cool! I met Christopher on JoCo as well. Maybe I know your friends …

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Orphanleni
2012-07-24 03:17 UTC
#26

I know some of them are not into having their personal information on the internet. Lets just say one is from Boston, the other from New Jersey, and they’re both nerdy guys that play games and wear glasses. Narrowing it down as best I can. If you met them they are quite nice but I’ll leave it to them to out themselves here.

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arenson9
2012-07-24 04:50 UTC
#27

No worries, eh.

One of the great things about JCCC is that the vast majority of attendees are people that you’ll enjoy meeting.

It’s a very expensive, floating con. On top of appealing to people who are into geek culture, it takes a certain combination of resources, determination, and adventurous spirit to attend – particularly the first year, before anyone really knew what it would be like.

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robalan
2012-07-24 05:32 UTC
#28

How did I discover SotM?

Dragonlordged came over and said “Hey guys! We got an awesome new card game you should try.”

And. Well. That was that.

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Christopher
2012-07-24 18:02 UTC
#29

Orphanleni, based on your story, I totally remember you! That’s comforting to me - I feel like I’m losing my mind most days. Anyway, thanks for coming and joining us here on the forum!

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TheJayMann
2012-07-24 18:23 UTC
#30

Unfortunately for me, I believe I would need an order of magnitude more money than I have now in order to afford to go to one of those JCCC events.

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Orphanleni
2012-07-24 22:10 UTC
#31

Yuppers, I’m the giant redhead with a suit tattooed on my chest. I stick out in peoples minds. You’re also the reason I fell in love with the game. As you probably don’t remember the first game I played I was Ra with Ab-Zero in the party, mistakes and badtimes. But you yourself suggested Wraith and I fell into that character kicking all kinds of space-ass. Thank you Christopher, you sold me hard.

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TheAgreeableBrain
2012-09-07 04:58 UTC
#32

I was browsing on Kickstarter and there is an option to see projects near you. I saw the Kickstarter for the Infernal Relic expansion and saw that I could get the base game rather than the expansion so figured that even if the game wasn't great I would be helping a somewhat local game company. 

Just happened to be going to GenCon this year so picked up my copy and then figured I'd sit in on a demo. What better way to learn a new game than directly from the designers? Right after the demo I got back in the long line (silly free art print) and bought everything else. 

Introduced the game to my weekly group the Sunday we returned and we've played at least one round every week since. 

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Lowendz113
2012-09-07 06:47 UTC
#33

One of my buddies demoed the game at the Origins Game Fair in Columbus, Ohio. He loved it, bought the original edition and Rook City on the spot. He introduced it to me and I fell in love.  :heart:

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chainsawrabbit
2012-09-07 14:57 UTC
#34

I was browsing around my local game store in mid-April, looking at all the nifty new shininess and debating what to buy, if anything, with my extremely limited budget.

On the shelf, next to Red Dragon Inn (a banner favorite in my household), was a colorful little box with Sentinels of the Multiverse in big awesome letters.

It was a superhero game.  I was on a superhero kick at the moment (given the imminent release of High Lord Whedon's The Avengers), and had unconsicously decided that the world (and my game shelf) needed more superhero games.  No, strike that; the world needs more good superhero games.  Very few seem to measure up.

It was fixed-deck (no collecting!), which immediately boosted my opinion of the game.  I refuse to buy any more games with "collectible" in the description unless I'm really into the theme; the last one I bought was the Battlestar Galacitca CCG; a fun, solid game, but I had horrible luck on card pulls, and it just couldn't compete with other CCGs.  There was MechWarrior: Dark Age years ago, but I stopped playing because everyone at the tournaments could afford to spend more than I could on the game, therefore able to field the rare, extremely powerful pieces, and I had no people to play casually with.  In a collectible game, tactics only take you so far.  Plus, fixed deck allows for distinctive characters with their own personalities, strengths, and weakness.  Deck-building games are fun and all, but I really only get into them if the theme grabs me (my wife loves the Resident Evil DBG, so that sees a lot of play in my household).

It was cooperative!  Of course it should be cooperative, it's about a superhero team!  Plus, the world needs more well-designed cooperative games.  The big cooperative games in my house are Arkham Horror (sheer scale means it doesn't get a lot of play), Elder Sign (scratches the Arkham Horror itch while being more accessible), Pandemic (the gold standard for cooperative games?) and Yggdrasil (extremely challenging and Norse mythology FTW!).  Considering my game collection takes up two whole bookshelves, more cooperative or semi-cooperative games are always appreciated, as it allows me to get people into more advanced boardgames without the "I will murder all of you and then poop in the wound!" sentiments, or having to hold back/hold hands so new players don't get absolutely destroyed.

So, with those criteria and a minor recommendation from teh store owner (whom I've done business with since his store opened), I bought SotM and Rook City, opened them, marveled at how cool everything looked, sorted, bagged, read the rules, and played that night.

Holy crap, this game is amazing.  It suddenly became my goal to make sure everyone I know, gamer or not, plays SotM at least once.  It soon became the staple of gaming in my household, getting more play than RDI (which, believe me, is saying something).  Also, SotM is the first game I started sleeving, because we were wearing out the cards at a ridiculous pace.  Seriously, one of Fanatic's cards looks like somebody chewed on it.

Then, I joined the forum.  this is unusual for me; I've never been much of a forum-goer.  For one, I tend to novelize when I don't need to (this post is a perfect example).  Less than a week later, the announcement for the EE/IR Kickstarter went up on the old forum.  I was rather frustrated; I had just bought this awesome game, and now they're funding an even better version of it!  But, I got over it, and told my wife to quit shopping so bloody much because I was putting out money to get more of this awesome new game!

Not really; my exact words were: "Honey, you know that Father's Day is coming up.  Could I throw in on the Kickstarter for the new Sentinels expansion?  I can get the fixed version of the core game, the new expansion, and the two out-of-print promo cards!"  No, my wife doesn't rule the relationship; we're an equal partnership.  But a loving tone and a carefully-timed shoulder rub does wonders for my negotiating position.

So far, everyone I've introduced the game to has loved it (with one exception).  It sees a lot of play; I'm not huge on solitaire Sentinels, but my wife and I often play two-heroes-each, as do any random friend that stops by.  I actually had a minor bidding war when I offered my copy of the 1st ed core game up for grabs.  In the end, my cousin called dibs on it, on the grounds that he's family and he was going into the Air Force.  He and his wife were never really board gamers until they spent some time with us; now they own their own copy of RDI and will have a copy of SotM to play over Skype with us.

TL;DR: I bought Sentinels of the Multiverse on a complete whim (I buy a lot of my games that way), loved the hell out of it, made everyone I know play it, and told (read: begged) my wife I was putting money in on the EE/IR Kickstarter.

-CSR

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Christopher
2012-09-07 16:07 UTC
#35

*sniff*

Sorry, guys. I've got something in both of my eyes.

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msbq
2012-09-07 17:35 UTC
#36

I work at a board game store in Seattle, and we're open late on Fridays and Saturdays so people can come in and play games at our tables. One particularly slow Friday night, a regular came in and showed us Sentinels and I was hooked. I think he got it from PAX or the first kickstarter or something, because we didn't even have it in the store yet.

Then one day when I was opening the recent shipment of boxes I spotted a stack of Sentinels of the Multiverse. I set one aside immediately and once I was off my shift I bought it and opened it up. Been happy as a clam ever since. :)

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arenson9
2012-09-07 18:52 UTC
#37

 

Were you at PAX?

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msbq
2012-09-08 07:17 UTC
#38

 

Alas, no. My store opted not to do a booth at PAX since three of our seven employees had tickets to be there all weekend (myself included, of course). Maybe one day we'll have a table there, but we haven't yet.

EDIT: To clarify… Yes, I was at PAX. No, my store did not have a booth there. I was there recreationally. :slight_smile:

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arenson9
2012-09-08 16:57 UTC
#39

 

Did you come by the booth? Did we meet?

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msbq
2012-09-09 06:43 UTC
#40

It's definitely possible. I was there Friday and Saturday. :)

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arenson9
2012-09-09 13:31 UTC
#41

Did you do play a game in the booth? With me?!

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flamethrower49
2012-09-09 16:03 UTC
#42

It looks like I haven't responded to this yet!  My story isn't all that exciting, I guess.  Longtime friend and theorycrafting partner awp and his wife introduced it to me and mine.  I went out and bought it pretty quickly, and now play it all the time and dedicate my free time to writing strategy posts about it.

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Laz
2012-09-12 02:32 UTC
#43

I played it first at PAX 2011.  Loved it and got my friends hooked on it!