Are you excited! Be excited! Also, check out the Kickstarter!
Not only is it a good way to support us and get to be a part of the action, it also has bits of hidden information on the expansion itself!
The EXTRA REDICULOUS looks really awesome. If only I had a few Gs to spend on something like that…
While looking down the list, I’m assuming that any category chosen gives just what that one category specifies, and adding an extra $30 gets us a copy of the expansion?
Does that means an alternate Wraith, playtesting, and a copy of the Rook City would be $25+$90+$30 = $145?
Yes, you can add levels together like that. HOWEVER, we added some magical fancy rewards that combine shipping on things (so SotM + RC + legacy promo + wraith promo = $85, etc)
Also, we are really really excited about somebody buying the “Just Ridiculous” or “Extra Ridiculous” pledge levels, as that would be fun for us too! I also really hope someone buys the Ultimate Storage Solution; Christopher and I have plans to work with a master woodworker to make the boxes and they should be gorgeous.
Wait, so for $20 I can get the Legacy card, or for $25 I can get the Wraith card, but if I want both cards, that will cost $45 (plus $30 for the expansion plus $10 for shipping)? This is for an expansion that’s expected to cost less than the original game costs, right? 
No, for $45 you get both promo cards plus the expansion! (which includes shipping)
Wait… how did you get $45? and for that matter $85?
I can’t seem to comprehend the voodoo math going on here.
That’s just what the reward levels are in the kickstarter. To quote:
PLEDGE $45 OR MORE
20 BACKERS • Limited Reward (80 of 100 remaining)
ON PATROL - A copy of the Rook City expansion, the America’s Youngest Legacy promo card, and the new Wraith promo card. Also, a big “Thank you!â€
Ah, I see it now. It’s much easier to read when pasted in a post than it is in that narrow column at the source. Though, it appears playtester is $90 by itself, or at least $500 combined with anything else.
Yeah that’s definitely true. I wish there were some more formatting options for the rewards on kickstarter…
No, for $45 you get both promo cards plus the expansion! (which includes shipping)
Thanks, that’s better. I guess I misunderstood what a Kickstarter was all about. I thought it was just a way to entice people to put up the money for an expansion before it’s actually been made (meaning, you get people’s $30 now instead of next year). I didn’t realize it was also a way to get people to pay way more than they normally would for an expansion, in order to get some extra stuff. 
[quote]ON PATROL - A copy of the Rook City expansion, the America’s Youngest Legacy promo card, and the new Wraith promo card. Also, a big “Thank you!â€
If I did the Completionist level, could I get the the T-shirt instead of the Core game, since I already have a copy (or are you re-minting/rereleasing it)?
And what if I already have the Young Legacy and just want the expansion plus Wraith promo? Then I have to pledge $25+30=$55, which turns out to be more than Rook City+Young Legacy+Wraith promo=$45… I could save $10 and get a duplicate Young Legacy, but I’d rather that duplicate copy go to someone who don’t already have it.
The options are rather limiting…
And I so liked this game.
Save 10 bucks, get the Young Legacy, and then offer to send it to someone on the site. Problem solved! You save cash, you do a good deed, someone else gets free stuff, and you support >G, all in one go.
This is just straight up awesome in all the ways. I, for one, will not question any of this pricing, and simply pledge the $45 offer. No need to question the details. I’m sure what it means is that if I go ahead and donate $45 now, I’ll get the two promo cards (someone can have my Newest Legacy, I got that at Gen Con) and a copy of the Rook City expansion. That’s what it says in the description, so I’m happy. Lemme just find $45 really quick and I’ll send it your way. Come on guys, we’ve got 44 days left, and we’re just $1000 away from being halfway there (at the time this is posted)! We can do this!
Oh, and I saw the part that mentions >G will release character art and bios for every $2000 we pledge. We’re over $4000 already. I can already hear those details being posted! With a goal of $12,000 and six characters in the expansion, if we make it all the way, we’ll know EVERYTHING. Get to it people!
The 2 character arts + bios will be posted on the Kickstarter later today! (and if we get to 6000 by this afternoon, we’ll do a third as well)
Pretty sure this is how it works to just get the expansion and wraith promo. You select the “Defender of the Night” option, then add $5 for a total of $30. If this is wrong then please correct me. Making sure before I pledge any since I’m limited on how much I can spend cause of no current job and I already have the Legacy prmo card.
It states for each $30 added to this level. So, $25, then add $30 more to that, for $55, otherwise something like ROOK CITY RENEGADE or ULTIMATE STORAGE SOLUTION wouldn’t make much sense.
Not that I’m demanding it, but I’m secretly hoping the arts and bios will be of characters we haven’t seen anything of yet (like characters other than Plague Rat or the masked guy). Just sayin’. It’d be very thoughtful of you.
Also, when the rewards part says the other promo card is an alternate version of The Wraith, is it actually still Maia Montgomery, or a whole different Wraith? Or… when you say “alternate Wraith”… Could you possibly mean an alternate universe version of The Wraith?! Perhaps a Wraith from the same universe as the so-called “Red Legacy” or that evil version of The Visionary that’s inside the current one’s head?! Could it be the first alternate universe hero we get?
Just go ahead and tell me if I’m wrong about that last part, if you don’t mind. I’d rather know it’s not the alternate universe coming into play and not getting all excited. Not to say I’m not completely pumped about this!
Oh, the arts and bios will very much be something you haven’t seen before! Formatting them for posting now!
I won’t say anything about The Wraith. Because I delight in torturing you people.
THIS. Best reason of all!
And we so enjoy the torture! 
Rabit
I expect no answer, seeing as no matter how you’d answer, it’d still probably give away the answer. So, ha! I’m not being tortured! I understand the necessity for secrecy!
Mr. Fixer looks so awesome! 
We’re at 6K - which new character will go up today??
So, as a child, Lilian was told that she should act more lady like, and more like her very successful cousin… Interesting…
I too was thinking it sounds interesting. Maybe Plague Rat isn’t Wraith’s nemesis after all?
The Matriarch is Wraith’s nemesis? Seems very likely! So maybe Mr. Fixer is Plague Rat’s nemesis.
I thought I was going to really like Mr. Fixer, but Expatriette is pretty awesome herself.
Oh, and IT’S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAND!!!
You’ve still got to remember there is six other Heroes on the base game, I say six becuase the double villians seem like Tachyon’s nemesis do to her incapacitated side. There may even be a chance Plague Rat isn’t the nemesis of anyone at all.
Expatriette will most definitely be the first Hero I try out with how awesome she looks. Now all were missing is the appearance of the double villians, and the actual description of Jack Donovan. Oh yeah the second environment aswell.
What was the first environment? Are you talking about the guess that it’ll be the sewers because of Plague Rat, or was there an actual, official reveal?
So yeah, Expatriette is everything I hoped for in Dawn’s nemesis. She’s just awesome. I cannot wait for this.
Also, my friends and I came up with the theory that the two environments will be a high-end district and low-end district of Rook City; two villains and one hero for each district. Say, for the ones that have been revealed, Plague Rat and Mr. Fixer are in the low-end district, like slums and backalleys, while Matriarch and Expatriette will operate in the high-end, big city part of Rook City. More on this theory once the other villains are revealed.
Wait… Dear God… Expatriette is Citizen Dawn’s SISTER. OH. MY. GOD. I kid you not. Both of their last names are Cohen. That’s not a coincidence. This just blew my mind…
I don’t have Dawn’s card in front of me, but isn’t the nemesis icon on her card a targeting sight, just like you’d expect Expatriette’s icon to be? Looks like this mystery is indeed solved.
Yeah, that’s it Spiff. It’s a crosshair. You were right.
If we pledge 30 to get the expansion does it get shipped to our house?
So, based on the new villain, The Chairman, I’m thinking my theory of the environments being the high-class end of Rook City and the low-class end. The Matriarch and Chairman will operate in the high-class end, with Plague Rat and the last one in the low-class end.
Sounds to me that Captain M. Lamb is the secret identity of The Chairman.
It ships to whatever address you give us when we finalize the Kickstarter!
Just finished my kickstarter donation and man do I feel supremely humbled and honored to be allowed to participate in such a worthy endeavor. The honor of knowing that I will be completely satisfied with my donation and the resulting accolades that will go with it. Good luck to all of the >G team and here’s to hoping that with my small donation that we will persevere and get the much anticipated expansion.
The Chairman kinda confuses me at this point. Since there is a villian that is accompanied by someone, and so The Chairman and Jack Donovan are both known. So does one of them has to work with someone else. Or maybe they are the two that work together? So very confusion. Hopefully the questions will get answered soon because now I am just plain out confused.
I’m thinking Captain Lamb must be just an underling of The Chairman. If he’s a Chessmaster type, running all the organized crime in the city, he’s surely got moles in the police force.
EDIT: Found it!
So the two that will work together will count as one villain, not two, [EDIT: Or one villain and some sort of new sidekick/super-minion/right-hand-woman mechanic that we don’t yet know of!] and it’s the one we know nothing about, except that it’ll be two females (or children?). Probably Tachyon’s nemeses, since you can see a duo of villains with ice and wind powers(?) on the back of her card.
But how do you know they are both female? The voice actor list Adam has given has a male and female in that slot.
My mistake, Clancy looked like a female name to me. You’re right, that’s a male and a female. Still: two people, one villain.
Looks like we reached the tail of the kickstarter. In the first four days $10500 was rased, in the last two days only $800 or so was raised. I doubt it will stagnate to the point of not reaching the goal. Hear’s to hoping a few more big contributions make it’s way through.
I’m still hoping someone buys one of the “RIDICULOUS” packages. 'Cause not only would they single-handedly provide us with five new reveals, it would also be awesome.
SlenderTroll - that would be way awesome. Imagine the pictures. 
One $500 level contribution would just about push them to the next reveal at this point… so close!
if I had the money I know I would enjoy the Extra Ridiculous package. It’ll be great to have my name on a plaque for all to see, not too mention being able to play the game for four hours with them.
The “Just Ridiculous” and “Extra Ridiculous” pledge levels could be shared among any number of people who pool money together, assuming that they gather in one place for the game playing and determine among themselves a way to share the box and cards. However, the names of all such people will be included on the plaque 
I noticed that it that it had slowed down considerably as well. This was my first Kickstarter so I keep checking up on it like an expectant parent. ;D
Fortunately we are close enough that making the goal shouldn’t be a problem.
At this point, it’s not the goal I am excited about but the awesome stuff that would come of going way over the goal. 
It appears now the goal has officially been reached.
So Donovan = Spite, who apparently is an evil version Alan Moore’s V, voiced by Mark Hamill (the Joker in Batman: TAS).
Similar origin stories at least. I wouldn’t exactly call V “good” though.
Jack Donovan is very awesome sounding. I think I found out which villian I want to take on first. Although I wonder what the character at the 14K mark will be? The Chairman is really confusing due to the way it was put. Makes me wonder if he is villian or not, since there is bound to be another revealed. Maybe it will be the female the accompanies one of the characters?
The “Just Ridiculous” and “Extra Ridiculous” pledge levels could be shared among any number of people who pool money together, assuming that they gather in one place for the game playing and determine among themselves a way to share the box and cards. However, the names of all such people will be included on the plaque
Alright everyone, lets all withdraw our money and deposit it in the 10K one and we’ll all share the palque. Now we just have to figure out how to get in the same place.
Withdraw? We’ll never get to the 20K mark if everyone here withdraws their money!
I’m excited to see the stretch goals. After seeing Spiff’s over-sized cards with hit point counters … I’m thinking, yes, these please. Also, it would be nice to get an alternate hero card that is exclusive to the Kickstarter campaign.
Withdraw then redeposit it from the same account and say it was from anyone and everyone who did it so that way all will have the name on the plaque and somehow figure out what to do with the other stuff that is given.
From the looks of it we will at least hit the $14,000 mark, but anything after that somewhat seems very unlikely. Unless a rich man all of a sudden appears and wants to seriously consider investing into the company.
Yes. It has slowed quite a bit hasn’t it? I was hoping it would jump up a bit more being the weekend and all. I’m just thrilled they hit the funded level to ensure I see this sooner than later.
We’re thinking we may get a surge once we post the stretch rewards, so keep an eye out for those. There’s still a lot of time left
The stretch rewards? I’m getting pretty curious now.
I’m still waiting to donate my $45. I WILL do it, I promise, but I gotta get my debit card activated so I can donate… Rook City here we come!
So Spite is Jack Donovan? Alright, I’d like to apologize to that one guy on the forums who has been telling us that Jack Donovan was going to be a villain. I thought you were just being silly or something. I don’t know how you got that name before this, but I didn’t believe you about someone being named Jack Donovan. So whoever you are, I’m sorry I didn’t believe you.
Yeah, Kickstarter itself was having issues. Should be fine now.
Anyone here familiar with the Giant Fire Breathing Robot? One of the editors there interviewed me the other day, and that just went up today here: http://gfbrobot.com/2011/10/26/house-rules-23-interview-with-christopher-badell-co-creator-of-sentinels/
Also, we sent them something as an early teaser. They posted it here: http://gfbrobot.com/2011/10/26/news-roundup-new-wraith-card-revealed-essen-reports-and-more/
Enjoy!
You should post that link on BGG and the kickstarter page to help spread the word
Speaking of posting links on the Kickstarter page, I’m surprised you haven’t posted links to Drakkenstrike’s, Tom’s, and Marco’s video reviews. I know they are for the base game, but you could clearly label them as such (and include a tip they can get the expansion and the base game at the $85 level).
Listened to this earlier after the link was posted on Facebook. Awesome stuff. Can’t wait to see more of the expansion and promos that we will be getting.
Now to seclude myself in my Wraith Cave and start writing down the ideas for a SotM RPG. 
$16k now!
Really… I just saw D-Day’s latest contest on the BGG main page. Their kickstarter has more backers and more funds. Where is the publicity for Rook City!!!
All of us here most likely already pledged, what we need now is more people who are new to the game and very likely to pledge the $85 level.
(Plus, I am really stretching my neck long yearning for the alternate Baron Blade. Can we have more publicity or bring the alternate Baron Blade down a few levels? :D)
Even after all the explanations, I’m still a little confused by the pledge levels.
What I would like is:
-To be included in the playtesting
-A copy of the Rook City expansion when it is available
-Wraith Promo Card
-Legacy Promo Card
However, the only way I can see to do this would be to pledge at both the $75 and $45 levels.
So for $120 I recieve
-Playtesting
-Two copies of Rook City
-Two copies of Wrath Promo
-One copy of Legacy Promo
Is this correct?
That’s a little more than I would like. Is there a way to get in on the playtesting and still recieve just one copy of the game and one of each promo card?
Ask someone from the company, they’ll likely give you an option by choosing to spend slighty more than the main reward while getting a bit more, like what they did for Andy.
Responded privately. If anyone is interested in any sort of other arrangement of items that is not put out as an official reward on the kickstarter, just message me and I’ll see if I can work something out
While I love the updates and the videos that have come out…it does seem like where they are getting posted is only going to prior fans and those already kickstarting. Yes its still growing and it will continue to do so, but I must agree that it isn’t really being publicized that great. How can we get these great updates, stretch rewards, videos, etc out to those who haven’t seen in yet?
Contests? Designer diaries on BGG? Kickstarter expansion specific ads on BGG? I’ve suggested similar things before as I’ve seen these be effective, but there must be other great ideas out there? What do others think? What have you seen be effective advertising we can use to push Rook City?
(And this coming from one who doesn’t have the base game yet but is getting it with the kickstart)
We’ve been doing a lot of publicity on podcasts and various other advertising channels, which seems to have been working well this week. We also have some other advertising campaigns in the works - hopefully they will pan out and get us more pledgers as well
I actually share everything that comes across my screen with everyone that will listen to me as well as Facebook and in my local store. This is to good of a game not to have as much fan support as possible.
Where can I find links to those podcasts and such?
I just checked out the video about the nemeses, and I was actually a little surprised with the truth, but after a second it does make sense. Mr. Fixer being an extremely low-income person and The Chairman being himself, obviously. And I’m assuming that “successful cousin” mentioned in Matriarch’s bio is Tachyon. Though I’m yet to find a connection between Spite and Wraith… More on that later.
Really? I would expect the opposite: Wraith would be the “successful cousin” to Matriarch. And Tachyon, a famous scientist, would be a likely target for someone who is essentially the result/victim of an unethical science experiment.
I was thinking Wraith and Matriarch too, but since Tachyon is successful and it was probably earned success it does make a bit more sense. Where Wraith was made CEO by her parents of a already successful company.
Now I have two thoughts why Wraith and Spite could be nemesis’ and the first one is prior or during Wraith’s becoming CEO if Montgomery Industries they were funding the project at Pike Laboratories so Spite is seeking them to extract a little bit of revenge in the form of an old fashion beatdown.
My second theory is that Spite is just a really big villian in Rook City, and seeing as Wraith lives in Rook City it means that those two will most definately be butting heads. I mean it’s not like all Heroes and Villians have to have a linked backround in order to be a nemesis with one and other.
From Wraith’s bio:
The years passed and Maia grew into an exceptional young woman. She blazed through her education, graduating high school with top honors by the age of 15. Highly visible, due to her brilliance and the fact that her parents were the joint CEOs of Montgomery Industries, she was invited to attend top universities across the nation, she eventually chose to attend Riemenschneider University in Rook City, double-majoring in mathematics and mechanical engineering.
$18k
Wow, it’s starting to build up quick now.
Yeah, I have no doubt it will hit $20K at the very least. $25K seems reasonable at this rate.
Now if only a couple of us win the Lottery…
That was a huge spike out of now where. 1.5k away from the 20k mark, woohoo! Hopefully there will be even more burst of people so that way we can hit that 50k mark.
I was happy to start seeing adds on Boardgamegeek for the Kickstarter…it always catches my eye.
So… This Pike fellow is the Chairman?
I’m thinking Plague Rat.
Somehow I can’t imagine PR living in a tower somewhere; I think he’s more likely to hide down in the sewers. I’m guessing the “human augmentation” experiments created both Spite and Plague Rat though.
20k now. Yay, freebies! (Well, almost anyway.)
Actually, considering I’ve already lost my original HP counter cards, it’s perfect timing I’ll get these new cards now.
Chris actually confirmed to me in person that Tachyon is Matriarch’s cousin, so there you go. It’s the truth. Hooray for dysfunctional families?
Hmm, I probably should have guessed from Matriarch’s white hair that she’s a little too old to be Wraith’s cousin.
What does that have to do with anything. My father is pushing 50 years, yet his cousin (by that, I mean his father’s sister’s daughter) is about 25.
Yeah, but story-wise I would expect “rival cousins” to be of similar ages.
I don’t think Matriarch is actually even that old. A hero that comes to mind that comes into mind that had white hair while in costume is Black Cat, but when not in costume she was a blonde. So there is the chance that even Matriarch’s white hair is just part of the costume.
I’m with Ronway - comic book art is always overly generous to the looks of characters, but The Matriarch looks very young.
Besides Dr. Stinson is 38 years old according to the website - my cousins have a 20 year age spread, so Matriarch could be anywhere from 18 to 58 easily.
When I was talking with Chris last weekend about the expansion, I did forget to ask him to confirm one other deduction I had. I’m not sure if anyone else has already had this confirmed, or I’m just stating the obvious, but have we all accepted that Expatriette and Dawn are sisters? Both of them have the last name Cohen, and in a world like this, that’s not just a coincidence. Can anyone back me up?
I don’t think it’s been confirmed but I think a lot of people assume. Add to this the fact that Expatriate seems to use guns as a mode of operation and Dawns nemesis icon is a cross-hairs.
Expatriette IS Citizen Dawn’s Nemesis.
Expatriette is NOT Citizen Dawn’s sister.
Enjoy!
But but but… See what I mean when I said I should give up on guessing? But I refuse to believe they just so happen to have the same last name. Coincidences like this don’t just happen in a story like SotM. They’re related… I just don’t know how. Maybe they’re not sisters, but they’re related – twin sisters, step-sisters, mother/daughter, aunt/niece, cousins, clones from alternate universes, whatever it may be. I may wrong 90% of the time, but I’m about to grab that 10%.
Uhm… if they are not sisters, I much doubt they are twin sisters. Anyway, I go for sister-in-law.
Check this – what if they’re the same person but from different dimensions? It’s not called the Multiverse for nothing!
They are related. By blood. And they are not the same person.
On a related note, Expatriette was never a Citizen of the Sun.
My current guess would be she is Dawns daughter.
I’m kinda thinking Veet is right about Dawn being Expatriette’s mother, considering the fact that Dawn is 48 and age marks a visible and Expatriette does have a youthfulness look to her. But I do wonder if they aware of any kind of relation.
One theory I had rattling around my head is that if it is true that Dawn is the mother, it may be possible that Expatriette appeared to be one of the “normals” at an early age and was probably neglected by Dawn because of it. And after having a Daughter that seemed to be useless may have been what pushed her into the hiding in Insula Primalis. Expatriette may of then been taken into some organization that rained women how to be assassins or mercenaries of some sort. Then years later Dawn and Expatriette meet on a bridge in which Dawn reveals that she is her mother!!! Dun dun dunnnn. It’s just a thought though… Not sure about Expatriette’s eye though, that may be tied in somehow.
Alright, I’ll go with the mother/daughter relationship. I think that’s more likely than the whole alternate universe thing – it’d be strange to see something like that when the expansion doesn’t have anything else that’s alternate universe related. But Dawn’s 48? I guess I should have checked her age, but she looks younger than that.
Okay, final answer: Dawn Cohen had a daughter, Amanda Cohen. For some reason, Amanda didn’t want to become/wasn’t allowed to be a Citizen of the Sun. Probably because she doesn’t have superpowers, it seems. So Amanda leaves/sent away by Dawn, goes and does her own thing. Fast forward, Dawn is 48. Amanda is in her mid-20s, and bouncing around Rook City. And here we are…
Oh, and there’s a psychic in Expatriette’s preview. Could that be Spite? He looks psychic-ish.
And I have got this other notion, that Operative’s name is a bit familiar. I don’t know where, but I thought I’d seen a similar last name… I’m probably wrong on that again.
But there’s still one more mystery. The biggest. Who is The Chairman? Chris, your little hints you gave me last weekend have just been bothering me. If you have eluded to him before, it must have been only once, because I can’t even come up with a wrong guess! But I suppose the fun is in the mystery. If I knew the answer, this wouldn’t be nearly as fun…
But I refuse to guess about The Chairman. I’ve literally got nothing. But I’ll heed your instructions and not flip him until the game is over. Just be sure to package the expansion so that The Chairman is noticeable enough that I don’t accidentally see the other side!
Also the guy she’s fighting in the reveal story calls her “little girl” which suggests she is younger.
I honestly don’t put a lot of stock into the apparent relative ages of ANYONE in most comics. Because of the way comics aging works, you end up with younger characters growing up (Say Robin becoming Nightwing), while others (Batman) apparently staying the same age or aging FAR less quickly.
I file it, along with many other comic ridiculosities, under my “Because Comics” heading.
Not to mention the propensity for characters to have children from alternate time-lines/dimensions showing up before they would have even been born in the current time-line/dimension. Mr Fixer is supposed to be an older guy, so he’s built better than most 30 year olds but has grey hair. Because comics.
Actually, because of a strict adherence to martial arts training and practices. Look up some of the ancient masters - they stayed in AMAZING shape well past their “prime”.
Ok, also because comics.
Theory: Expatriette and Dawn are brothers.
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Also, I read this as “a mode of transportation” and it was awesome.
I won’t deny it.
Also, I read this as “a mode of transportation” and it was awesome.
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This /almost/ led to tea all over my computer screen by way of my nose. Well done.
300 backers now, and oh so close to $22,000.
That’s good news. The bad news is that the Kickstarter appears to be seriously losing steam. I think $25K is possible, but I don’t see the total going too far beyond that. Too bad.
That looks to be the way it’ll go, sadly. We were really hoping to move forward with a lot of exciting things - it was going so well there for a while that we made lots of cool plans, so we will have to see what happens. Still! At least the Rook City expansion is totally going to happen!
Idea! Everyone, we can sell our blood and pledge any money that we get for it.
Edit: Or better yet, anyone have connections to the black market? I’m up for selling a kidney, spleen, appendix, and gallbladder.
Man, I was hoping for $30K so I could get one of those sick shirts. It would have gone great in my wardrobe, and made sure I could further delay doing laundry.
Expatriette could totally use guns as a mode of transportation. If you’ve every played a game with a rocket launcher, you know all she has to do is get a bazooka, point it at the ground, jump into the air, and then fire. The explosion will propel her into the air, across the city! It’s the rocket jump!
But speaking of transportation, I really, really want Mr. Fixer to have a car that he uses. I don’t care how he uses it, but I’ll be happy if we get a card for Mr. Fixer’s old-school hotrod.
For whatever reason, I imagine him driving one of these.
Hopefully there will be another way to produce the Baron Blade cards in the future.
Absolutely looking forward to Rook City (and my playtest cards!!).
No no no, he’d drive something like this.
Also, since we won’t be getting them, what’s going to happen with Rook City shirts? Will they be for sale on their own? I’d totally get one for Christmas.
$24k now, and geting close to the $25k mark.
Wow, 350 pledges and just $5 shy of $25k.
Boom! 351 brings us to $25,045!
Yay! More stuff for us! Any idea when the bonus prints will actually be revealed?
Wouldn’t it be great if it gets a burst of energy within the next 4 days and hits the 30k mark?
Wow, “RELOAD” looks fantastic.
So, when do we get the HP trackers?
They will be printed at the same time as Rook City, so they will be part of the shipment in March.
I guess I’ll have to keep using my “currency counters” then (I call it such that I have different colored counters where each color I use to represent 1, 5, 10, and 25 HP).
Regarding the HP counters, Will they be standard items in future reprints of the base game? Future expansions involving new characters? Or is it a one off thing?
We’ll have to see. If they are a thing that people love and want more of, more could certainly be made in the future! A lot of what we do currently is testing the proverbial waters.
I don’t know if this had been asked before but, will Rook City ship with appropriate counters/markers to use with the HP tracker cards?
Nobody knows?
So I’m assuming no counters/markers then… I don’t like this feeling that I always have to buy accessories to pimp my SotM. I would have preferred everything to be right there out of box.
Unfortunately, these sort of accessories will not be able to ship with counters for the HP tracker cards due to printing costs and other logistical difficulties. However, since there seems to be quite a bit of interest, we are already looking into ways to bring them to players in the near future if at all possible.
If enough people are interested, would you be able create a bundle composed of the HP Trackers, a more comprehensive storage solution, and new copies of the errataed cards? I would be quite willing to pay for something that contained any combination of those 3 things, and I think a lot of the people here on the boards would as well.
It seems you’ve read our minds If there is enough interest, we are definitely planning to do something like this in the relatively near future.
That’s some exciting news!
+1 to customers interested!
Thanks for the great Christmas present in the FAQs, Paul!
No problem; I figured we should clarify that early, and also give something to our attentive forum readers for Christmas
Nice Kickstarter update!
I have no business background, so this might be a noob-ish question.
I noticed some empty card spaces on the printing paper. Will it cost any additional money to print some cards on those spaces? Otherwise the printing paper goes to wastage anyway. If it won’t cost anything extra, why not print some extra promo cards or errata cards in those empty spaces? Optimize the space usage so to speak.
These are just what printing companies call “digital proofs” (even though, as you can plainly see, they are not digital at all but are actual physical pieces of paper). What they mean though by “digital” is that they are printed out using a digital printing process (like a normal computer printer) just so that we can make sure all of the colors look good, and that they figured out how many of each card to print, and what card goes with what card back, etc. When they do the actual printing, it will probably be laid out differently, and it will be printed in even higher quality by fancy professional printers that are evidently not digital at all (in the somewhat strange parlance of printing companies).
However, in summary, there still is some extra space, which this time we are mostly using to print the Wraith promo card!
By the way, the fancy professional printers Paul is talking about are probably around 100 feet long and have thousands of moving parts that are very, very precisely crafted and fitted. When I was still in lithographing (printing in layman’s terms), they were installing a new printing press, and it was expressly forbidden to walk within like 10 feet of the thing since the concrete was still drying and even a millimeter’s difference could throw the whole thing off.
(The more you know!)
We’ve got just a month to go until March! Do you all have a definite date you know you’ll be shipping the games? Or at least a ballpark of a few days?
We are not entirely sure, as it is dependent on how long the games take to get here. They will soon be put on a boat in Shanghai, which will ship them across the Pacific to Los Angeles. At that point, they will be put onto a truck or train to St. Louis, and then onto a truck to be delivered to our warehouse. I will update you all as soon as we know more specifics!
From SHANGHAI? So the cards are on the literal other side of the world? Was that where you guys could get the best deal on printing or something? That seems like it’d be a monstrous shipping bill just to get it to you guys…
Quite often is the case that items are so much cheaper to produce in China rather than domestically that the savings far exceed that of the shipping cost, which is why so many things are made in China.
Wow… U guys can start playing your proof copy now!
How about showing us some pictures of the new HP counters?
Well, that makes total sense, actual. I’ve been to China twice, and you’d be amazed how cheap stuff there is…
Not too mention the Black Market, it’s pretty much the Wal-Mart of China.
Just saw the new images of the proof copy, and it brought a smile to my face to see the plastic divider. Excellent idea! I really like the backs for Spite’s deck and Plague Rat’s deck. The wanted poster and newspaper clipping images are cool.
Yeah, it turned out that printing the game in China and paying for shipping from Shanghai was so much cheaper than printing the game in Texas that we could afford a much higher quality box, higher quality cardstock and rule book paper, as well as a plastic insert. On top of that, the Chinese printer had much better customer service. The only outstanding question is what their QC is like, though it would not be hard for it to be better than that of the original printer, given the number of people who have mentioned missing or damaged cards on this forum.
When you state higher quality cardstock, is it a thicker cardstock? (maybe like 12pt or 14pt or whatever?) Or is it a heavier cardstock at the same 10pt size?
It is a thicker cardstock. However, since you never shuffle decks together when playing SotM, it isn’t a problem to play it together with the cards from the core game.
But a thicker cardstock means I need to refine the measurements for any future card boxes I make.
I believe I’d heard that the release target for Rook City was March, and tomorrow is March. I know that if they had a firm date to share they’d share it, but do we know if we should be anticipating early-March, late-March, or perhaps even later for when our Kickstarter-financed boxes should begin shipping?
In case you missed the Kickstarter update, Rook City is here, and we are beginning the Kickstarter shipping process! There will be future updates as we pack and label things, but we expect everything to ship out by next Friday (9 March)
Woohoo! Thanks for the update, Paul! Lookig forward to it!
Rabit
Not sure if it has been mentioned before or not… but what is the size of the art prints? A3 size?
The previous were close to A4 (appears to be as long as Letter and slightly wider), so I’d assume the same.
The previous ones were on letter. These will likely be the same or slightly smaller.
So, Rook City is here for people who did the Kickstarter stuff? Is there a date for when it will be available for regular purchase? I thought I remembered seeing something about April before, but I couldn’t find that again.
The dates I remember are March for Kickstarter, April for conventions, and May for general purchase.
Rook City will ship out to Kickstarter backers this week, and everyone should get it next week. The week after, it will begin being available for regular order on our website, and stores should start carrying it by the end of the month (in time for the official release at PAX East)
Sweet! I cannot wait to get my copy. Better warn my wife though, looks like next week is going to have to be spent defending the multiverse in the evenings. ;D
Fortunately, she (a non-gamer) loves it as much as I do, so no complaints there.
UPDATE: Got my tracking information this morning! So excited!
Yay! I have Rook City in my hands now. And new HP tracker cards. And a third promo Legacy card. And a promo Wraith card. And official art prints signed by all (actually signed, not copy signed). And much better quality rule book. And a much better quality box. And much easier to read Villain Character cards. And unicorns and ponies.
(Note: one if these is not true.)
Gasp! A third Legacy promo! 
I want it…
Apparently I wasn’t very clear.
I originally purchased a copy of the game at Gencon which I split with my brother. With it I was given a promo Legacy card.
Later, when I had more money, I purchased another copy of the game from Comic Carnival. They also gave me a copy of the Legacy promo card with purchase. This is my second Legacy promo card.
As part of the Playtester program, I was to receive a Wraith promo card and a Legacy promo card. This is my third identical Legacy promo card.
I see.
/sigh of relief
Got my copy of Rook City earlier today aswell. Sadly I never heard a knock or anything at my door so I didn’t know it had arrived until I was leaving, which before leaving I quickly opened it up and was greeted by the prints, which looked very nice. After I got home I did a little bit more exploring of what was inside, and boy these HP trackers are really something. Played one game with the Rook City so far with my two younger sisters. Mr. Fixer, Expatriette, and Ra against Spite in Rook City. The artwork is just as awesome as before, and not to mention the flavor text makes the cards that much better. We did however end up losing our match against Spite, being the severe pain in the rear that he is. So nice finally playing it with cards rather than crudely cut out pieces of paper.
Edit: Also wanted to say that it was also great to see my name listed in the Playtesters section of the rulebook, was one of the first things I checked into after opening the box up. Nothing like having my name spread around the world and having people look at it and think “I wonder who these guys are?” man, just feels my heart with joy knowing someone out there can read my name over and over again.
You’ve already got yours? Dang. I have to wait a few more days until I get back to my dorm from spring break, and even then I don’t know what day it will arrive!
Hmmm … nothing yet received.
I wonder when international kickstarters will get theirs…
Hopefully you guys will get them soon, I kinda figured I got it so soon is because I am just right in Kansas so it didn’t have too far to travel. But if JayMann has it already then my next best guess is that they just like us more, kidding.
I got mine on the 10th as well. W00t! Gonna play the heck outta this one.
Mine was put on the truck for delivery for delivery early yesterday morning (the 10th)…
WHERE IS IT?!? :’(
Yes, I am greatly looking forward to see the set…
Rabit
Just going to share one of my new favorite flavor text is from Spite’s Collateral Damage: “Oops.” the artwork makes it that much better due to the fact Spite is letting go of a group of people tied together over I think is a rooftop or maybe a bridge, didn’t look at it good enough to remember which.
Probably too much to ask at this point of time, but this coming from someone who enjoys SoTM a lot, when are we going to see the new detailed character bios on the homepage?!?!?!?!?
I just got my copy today. The prints are beautiful, the villains are menacing, and the heroes are AWESOME! It is taking all of my self control to finish work before I really tear into things.
Got to play a quick game with my daughter. Wraith & Expatriette went against Baron Blade in Rook City. Things did not go well for us. But we enjoyed every minute of it. I need to come up with a better way to use the HP trackers though. We tried using glass beads, but the beads were too big. Can’t wait to play more!!!
I currently have the only copy of “The Deputy” signed by Andy Arenson himself.
Woohoo! Got 'em! ;D
The cards are actually a lot thicker than I expected. I really like the weight of the new cards. Looking forward to playing with them!
Rabit
Speaking of this, it would be interesting to know who’s faces ended up on what cards, especially any of the other forum goers. So anyone who paid for their face please share.
I myself was intrigued by having my face on a card, but I don’t have the funds to do so. Maybe next time I suppose.
Here’s The Deputy in his time machine:
Looking forward to using the new cards tonight!
Quick question for the PTB: Are there plans to put the Rook City rule book up in the Downloads area? Cuz that would be really shiny - I like having multiple copies of the book available, just in case, and I prefer to preserve the originals. (Especially when I get people to sign them… ;))
Ha! Well played, my friend. Well played. 8)
I am one of the six guys in the ‘Enforcers’ group (all of us on the card are gaming friends - we get together twice a year for a weekend of gaming craziness, not counting the occasional convention like Gen Con or Origins). Specifically, the intimidating-looking one with the shiny glasses in back (of course, we’re all intimidating-looking - we’re ENFORCERS!). We were excited to have our whole gaming group in the shot.
Our wives liked them as well. “Look, honey! The guys and I are scary-looking thugs!” “Cool! But you’re still taking out the trash!” “But enforcers don’t have to take out the trash! We…well, we do ‘take out the trash’ in a sense…or rather, we are the trash, and the heroes have to take us out. Ah, darn it. I’ll go get the trash bin…”
One of the guys in the group (Charles Dryden), the small guy in the front, got a ‘Special Thanks’ in the rule book. Very exciting!
Maybe I’ll change my handle here to…
Enforcer #6
Just got my copy and am preparing my first game. My wife (a Canadian expatriate) has chosen her new favorite hero.
Just got my copy. Makes me really happy. My friends and I are going to do a run through of it, with the two heroes plus Tachyon and Wraith. Thank you, >G for making my day. I am literally doing nothing productive today.
According to FedEx, my copy has been sitting in the St. Louis processing center since it arrived lastFriday. Hoping it hasn’t fallen off a conveyor belt and gotten lost in the system. More likely, it’s sitting in the “it’s OK to make these boxes wait” pile since they don’t expect it to reach me in California until Friday. 
I’ve been pouring over the cards since I got the expansion this weekend. Wonderful artwork, great flavor bits at the bottom. Got to play a bit this afternoon during lunch. I’d rather have played all day
And hey, I’ve already found Plague Rat’s nemesis! Chrono-Ranger! He’s on the shadowy attack card in Plague Rat’s deck! I look forward to that expansion too. But Rook City will keep me occupied until then!
I’m the ‘small guy in front’ on the Enforcers card. And yes I got a special ‘Thank You’ in the rule book, because I’m ‘special.’ I also got a signed, artist Adam Rebottaro sketch of my character with The Chairman and a bunch of other stuff including a handwritten note from Christopher on my invoice to tell the other Enforcers “Hi” from him. So “Hi from Christopher, Tom, Chris, Jon, Jason, and Doug!”
Got mine yesterday! Really loving the new card weight. (Though one of my Spite cards was creased across the middle, which was disappointing).
I’m the “Innocent Bystander” and behind Spite’s hand in “Forced Entry,” by the way.
EDIT: Also, can the red-suited Commie guy (from “Scum and Villainy”) please become more important later? I’m a sucker for McCarthy-era Cold War propaganda comics.
Got my copy last night, love the quality of the box and the new art is just fun!
Can I just say Spite is just sick and wrong? I haven’t even played him yet, but his theme and his cards, just looking at them, I’m going oh, that’s just not right.
Surep, just realized that Cap’n Commie is actually already on Legacy’s “Lead From the Front” card, and there’s a whole mess of 'em. Still, I think he/they would be a cool addition to the game, even if just as a random mook.
Also, are we going to see Sheriff FancyHat (presumably Plague Rat’s nemesis, and on one of his cards) in Time & Space?
I have not even received my Rook City… but what is Time & Space? :o
Time & Space is the next expansion, and based on some of the flavor text in Plague Rat’s deck, it looks like that guy’s name is “The Chrono-Ranger”. I’m not sure why a time-traveling cowboy has a grudge against Plague Rat, but we’ll find out I suppose.
Some of the speculation in this thread is correct! Some of SlenderTroll’s dreams may one day come true! I could really go for some lamb vindaloo right now!
Oh, man! Lamb vindaloo sounds awesome! We should go to the Indian place by your house Sunday morning.
Er, got sidetracked there. I can tell you that Time and Space is NOT the next expansion, but I’ll stop there. Hmmm, what else? You folks have caught on to a lot of things, but there’s a good amount of stuff that’s managed to sneak past you . . . for now. Any questions that I can handily dodge?
Mmmm … Indiana food. They have that in Indy …
sigh meant to write ‘Indian food’ not ‘Indiana food’.
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[/quote]I’d be willing to bet they do have Indiana food in Indy though.
Indy’s is a pretty decent restaurant. Back when my parents had a bit more money than they do now, they used to go weekly; they became regulars.
Time & Space isn’t next? I must have had terrible hearing back at Gen Con; I thought that’s what I heard. But I’m glad we’ve actually caught some things this time around. And I have questions you can dodge! Why are Wraith and Spite nemeses? When will Omnitron’s nemesis show up? Those are the only questions I’ve got. But wait, if there are still things we’ve missed, then the investigation must continue! You know, eventually.
Do you remember any other expansion ideas that were discussed at Gen Con? There is one that was mentioned that comes before Time and Space… don’t worry. We won’t let you agonize about it for too long. grin
Answers!
The Wraith and Spite are nemesis, as Rook City is The Wraith’s hometown, and Spite is the single greatest threat to the people of Rook City.
Omnitron’s nemesis will be in an expansion not published in 2012.
No, other than T&S I don’t remember any mention of other expansions, so I’m back in the dark. If you did mention it, I either just didn’t hear, or just don’t remember.
But wow, you guys must have really planned ahead if you’ve already got some of the THIRD expansion in mind. I know the process of planning out decks probably takes a while, but do the characters just come easy to you? Well, you’d probably have to think ahead anyways, in a case like Omnitron’s nemesis, who we haven’t seen yet (and I guess won’t be around for a while), but you’ve still given him a symbol.
Oh, so no personal vendetta between Spite and Wraith? I had assumed there was some past event that linked them or something, like Jack Donovan had been one of the guys who killed her boyfriend years before he became Spite.
We have actually planned out enough interwoven expansions (and related characters and storylines) to last us for a number of years. We actually planned out much of the world of Sentinels Comics before we even released the core game. As a consequence, minor clues about future characters / storylines can be found in the art and flavor text of published games (to say nothing of nemesis icons).
Well, awesome, that’s pretty amazing. The clues are probably too subtle for me to really catch, so I’ll just wait and see the clues when I’ve already got the answers. I mean, there’s nothing that’s really jumped out at me up to this point. But I look forward to the rest of the story.
