<Split from Wrath of the Cosmos Pre-Order Event thread>
Speaking of them being busy with Sentinel Tactics. http://sentineltactics.com/
Though the Gameplay section looks to be of Sentinels of the Multiverse right now.
Edit: Actually a lot of things seem to be a bit off. Clicking the big images for Flame of Freedom, Uprising, and the Miniatures lead to SotM products in the store.
Good catch!
But the Rulebook is on there! Sweet!
I know full well this isn't the place for this but…since when did melee attacks count range? Hmm.
It's always been the way I have played since I first played it.
Ok that must have just been something I missed. Thanks!
Intreguingly, it appears that you can now stack tokens (Attack+1, Defense+1, etc), and they are now used as currency in certain circumstances (such as with Bunker's Omni-Cannon. Is this a new change, because the videos featured during the Kickstarter had players discard those tokens if they weren't used within one round.
Only Aim and Dodge are discarded.
I also didn't know +Atk tokens were used only on a "per target" basis instead of boosting the whole of an AoE attack. Thats new to me as well.
Sorry - let me clarify my post: If you go back to the video, you'll see that only Aim and Dodge are being discarded. The Attack and Defense tokens are not.
I'll admit, though, that I don't remember if they were per target...
Hopefully the final game works even with your incorrect playing advice.
They have been per target from day 1. At least since we got that first prototype "rulebook."
Ah, ha! The plot thickens…
Man, I can't wait to get my copy. Has anyone gotten an email from FedEx yet?
Also, woo! Fourth post I made to say something really quick and it ends up getting split!
Hmm... Perhaps I should start making new topics whenever I want to make a post...
I know right! Man, I missed a few things during PTing. Well, thats why you scour the new rulebook really good before taking off just to catch things you missed/changed
This post will never be split.
You wanna make a wager?
Are you also the Wager Master?
No, I call myself the Wager Acolyte.
(Wow! That worked out really well +1.) Don't worry, you will get that PROMOtion one of these days.
It's certainly a dream of mine! Second to living at least another decade or so, that way I can show off some of my awesome tactics!
I don't need to wait a decade. I will just take the ship to show off my tactics.
You have fun with your cheating with timetravel. I will take the scenic route there and we can settle who has the best tactical tactics!
Wow, love the rulebook, and the card backs are sweet.
I'm very excited for Tactics, and I'm extrememly proud to have played a small part in the game's creation.
Time-traveling is very scenic.
And may cause epilepsy. I get to sacrifice new born goats and then cook 'em up with my fire power.
Ha! With my fire-halberd I can cook them and cur them at the same time.
I have no need to cut them, i'll just pick up the toasted goat and take a bite straight from it's gut!
I have never liked the taste of singed-fur.
Goats don't have fur.
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edited to remove ziggurat -- arenson9
Oh, don't you start this Ziggurat BS again...
That's why my powers are so fierce! Nothing but the delicious meat is left after I am done cooking.
No seasoning?
Of course not, seasoning ruins the natural flavoring of the goat.
That might be impressive, but I can eat the goat and get a new jacket at the same time.
I'm more of a robe guy. Plus when I get cold, I still have my mighty all-purpose fire powers!
Wouldn't you just burn off your own side-burns?
It's one of my other gifts that I was blessed with by my master. My facial and head hair are completely incapable of being harmed.
That's impressive. I wonder how we can test such a thing…hmmmmmmm. Any ideas?
Well, as soon as the Sentinel Tactics mini-expansion, Cursed Acolyte beats the daylights out of Siege-Breaker is released, we will be able to put it to the test.
I can't wait for CABtDOoSB, to bad the name the name doesn't fit.
I find the title fits quite nicely.
Not that it matters, GtG will put us on the same team.
You better pull your own weight then and not make me do all the hard parts.
Those repeated quote tunnels are quite irksome. Really damages the flow of this page.
Hey, I know how to work as part of a team, I do it all the time.
Is this thread still about the Tactics site? Who can tell, with all the quote pyramids?
I feel similarly.
Also, as a note, on mobile this thread is unreadable; the quote nests quickly devolve into one line per character. Could someone split off the crazy?
I will say one thing. I was reading the manual, and no where, as far as I can tell, does it specifically say you can only use a specific action once per turn. It explains unlimited actions can be used as many times as there are actions, but it never limits actions
Nevermind, reread it. I skimmed that page
Yes. Yes, maybe you should. 
Could you or one of the other mods maybe split the excessive quotes out, it took me and I assume other people who read the forums on their phones entirely too long to scroll through an awful lot of nonsense.
I can’t have been the only one annoyed by it.
For the reasons they haven't done this yet, you should read [url=https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/adventures-in-breaking-forum-formatting-4678]this thread[/url] 
You are in fact not even the only one to comment in this thread about it. Unsurprising you didn't see it though. 
Excessive quotes? I have no idea what you folks are talking about...
Anyways... I'm totally looking foward to getting Sentinel Tactics! I may not of recieved a tracking number, but it should be getting here today or tomorrow. I need to rearrange my gameshelf, it's running out of space super fast!
Now you have to change the title, there is no silliness to be found.
Mine should be here Friday, which is weeks before I expected it. Woooooo!
In Memphis right now.
If your's is already in Memphis, then mine has to be somewhere in Kansas!
This can't be right. It has to stop on a J before going international.
I feel you. No idea where I'm going to put this, not to mention anything I get at GenCon. Who knew ~250 board games would be so hard to store…
Fortunately I don't have that many games, if I did I would of a much more difficult time, as I barely have enough room for the one shelf.
Yes, shelf rearranging's in my near future too.
Anyone know the dimensions of the Tactics boxes?
About 150 here, with Tactics plus three others arriving this week, hopefully.
Bigger than the Sentinels of the Multiverse box.
The urge to crack a "your mom" joke there was very strong. But I resisted.
[Edit: and that was before I saw Pydro's post.]
Woohoo! Mine just came!
I shouldn't laugh. I shouldn't laugh. I shouldn't laugh. I shouldn't laugh.
Did the mantra help?
Not really.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of limitations to the capabilities we have.
Want to rephrase that?
Pydro and I already cut back the quotes, each post of ours during that time only has 1 quote now.
Edit: Seems like Pydro beat me to the punch.
See, we can work well together.
Sorry, just thinking about my misplaying of Melee attacks a little more...
What in the world makes any melee attack not automatically inferior to ranged attacks now? attacking at range still counts range as does melee, but melee you need to be adjacent. I had (incorrectly) thought that the equilizer between ranged and melee attacks was that melee didn't count range regardless of elevation. Someone help me see clearly here.
(Its funny, I looked up the thread where Christopher clarified this, and I posted in it, and I still didn't remember that rule after all this time. Man I have terrible memory. I'm sure I played it right in playtesting, so its probably not as bad as I remember)
Ooooh. Maybe mine will be waiting for me when I get home!
That's kind of the point. Melee attacks are less effective than ranged attacks. That's why Boar's Rage is a poison, and why Proletariat, who only has melee attacks, is generally more awesome to compensate.
For the record, this isn't spoilers now, since people have their copy (including myself).
So, how are people tracking their Kickstarter shipment? I never received a notification of any sort or tracking number.
Neither did I, it just came.
I didn't get a tracking # either, but I am 99% positive it will be delivered to my work tomorrow...while I'm on the plane to Indianapolis. So cruel.
I keep having visions of a FedEx truck pulling up to my house about five minutes after I leave for GenCon tomorrow. Does anyone know how to get the tracking number for those that did not get them emailed to them?
Read through the Tactics rule book on the site. Looks really solid, except for one thing - am I crazy to think that Ra should have LOS to Wraith in the example on page 8? There should be a red line between their hexes, yeah?
Nope. There's a space in between blocking them.
I think they were just show towards the enemy team on that one, as the text only mentions each hero seeing the omni drone
think they are only using the drone in the example, tracing Los from the heroes to it.
Although technically Wraith can see Ra. It just doesn't matter much because they're both heroes
I got mine several hours ago, the minis are great! However anyone who got minis having an issue with Cryo Bot's? It seems that the holes in his base are a little too far apart for the little pegs on his feet.
I guess that makes sense, although the example is still technically incorrect…
Oh man. Just read through this... so is anyone else planning to build 3-D hex maps or this? I might just start tonight while I wait for the game to arrive.
I've already got templates set up from playtesting and have plans to make a fully 3D Megalopolis eventually (I've already made one Megalopolis building and a Megalopolis cathedral). No idea how I'll do the FF Tower yet, though.
This depends on the game turning out to being something my group actually plays, of course. If Tactics turns out to be like GSF, I doubt I'll put in the effort (although, who knows? the 3D buildings are still fun papercraft projects in any case).
Though if you build 3d hexes, if you're planing on playing with them, could give omnitron some greif.
Omnitron's not the boss of me. I'll make 3D hexes if I feel like it. 
I hear you on that one. I liked GSF a lot myself, but I don't think it really moved any of my gaming friends and probably won't hit the table very much as a result.
I have higher hopes for this as it involves characters we already know and love… and yeah… building the tiles should be a fun project regardless.
All true. The only question for me is whether my co-op-loving playgroup can be made to love fighting each other head-to-head. I'm hoping that as long as I agree to play the villian each time so they can play the heroes who oppose me, I should be OK. We'll see.
One other thing I haven't figured out about 3D landscape - how I'll handle the Monorail pieces. I should be able to figure out something.
Feel fortunate – when we first added elevation as a concept, you couldn't make a Melee attack unless you were at Range 1! It only took a couple of games of the Wraith standing on a single-hex building with Tachyon futiley lingering below before that got changed.
But yes, currently Melee is a pure downside keyword. Of course, melee attacks/characters can be stronger in other ways to compensate.
Got ours today. Thought we were missing something, until I looked back and remembered the add on pack will ship later.
Got a couple of games in tonight against the misses. I of course won both of them. The first being Baron Blade and Proletariat versus Unity and Tachyon, second being Omnitron-V and Beacon versus Citizen Dawn and The Operative.
The first game was super easy, it was actually her first game. She insisted in keeping Turret Bot in play, which I easily avoided, as Baron Blade was the one who focused on Unity. While she foolishly sent Tachyon out to fight in close range against Proletariat. Let's say having Tachyon surrounded by 3 Proletariats didn't work to her advantage.
Second one was quite a bit closer, with both Omnitron-V and Beacon getting incapped once. This was actually a very close range match, everyone was pretty much in range of everyone the entire match.
We totally need G+ Tactics.
How do you win if the incapped heroes can just keep coming back?
You play until a certain number of incaps.
As soon as I can get Hangout working again on my computer… Not sure what is going on there. Also a really handy way to play on there… While the method I created works, I am sure there is a better way!
As Pydro has said. I typically play up to 3 Incaps for 2v2.
Maybe the plugin got corrupted or something?
But yeah, it would be amazing to have something incorporating die rolling and movement and maps and stuff - your Gdoc solution is functional like you said, but the Tactics equivalent of Mezike's spreadsheet would be pretty damn cool.
I usually play to 5, with at least 3 people on each team. I feel like less than 5 is just too quick of a game. I like there being a chance for whoever’s losing to catch up.
Woo! While going through the bios on the Sentinel Tactics website, it has Mad Bomber Blade in Baron Blade's section. Can't wait to try to blow up Megalopolis as the Mad Bomber!
The first appearances seem to be different from those on the SotM pages. I wonder what that means..
I wonder if there's some sort of New 52-esque reboot with the comics.