Ladies and gentlemen, your fight card!
La Capitan (Advanced) in Wagner Mars Base
vs.
The Indestructible Bunker (grim88)
The Eternal Haka (cmschex)
Mister Fixer (dpt)
Omnitron X (BlueHairedMeerkat)
Dark Visionary (phantaskippy)
[Edit--That's our five! Time to get started!]
Dark Legacy?
Bunker
Turret Mode, Recharge Mode, Upgrade Mode, Adhesive Foam Grenade
On second thought, I'll go Dark Visionary.
Opening Hand:
Demoralization, Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence, Wrest the Mind.
Haka, please
Punish the Weak, Mere, Dominion, Haka of Restoration
I just looked at her advanced ability. This is gonna suck for me.
Dark Visionary, of course, is what I meant to type. Apologies on the confusion.
I'll take Mr. Fixer.
By process of elimination then, I shall grab Dark Visionary!
EDIT: Wait, no, phantaskippy changed his mind. Omnitronks it is :D
Hand is Reset, Reset, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Elemental Exochassis
La Capitan
La Capitan [75]
In Play: La Paradoja Magnifica [15]
Trash: n/a
Additional Effects:
* SV: If there are 3+ cards beneath La Capitan, she flips. Whenever she destroys a Hero card, it goes under La Capitan. Destroy a Hero Ongoing/Equipment card (Advanced)
*EV: Deal highest hp Hero target H-1 Projectile.
* La Paradoja Magnifica: EV: Play the top card of the Villain Deck; SV: Shuffle Villain Trash into the Villain Deck
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Start of Villain Turn: Flip? Nope. No Hero cards in play to destroy.
Play a Card: Walk the Plank! Haka takes 3 damage [30] and cannot use Powers this turn.
End of Villain Turn:: Haka takes 4 projectile damage [26].
La Paradoja Magnifica lets La Capitan play another Villain Card: All Together Now--La Capitan deals either Fixer or Bunker 1 Lightning damage. The boat is already in play.
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La Capitan [75]
In Play: La Paradoja Magnifica [15]
Trash: Walk the Plank, All Together Now
Additional Effects:
SV: If there are 3+ cards beneath La Capitan, she flips. Whenever she destroys a Hero card, it goes beneath La Capitan. Destroy a Hero Ongoing/Equipment card.
EV: Deal highest hp Hero target H-1 Projectile damage.
La Paradoja Magnifica: EV: Play the top card of the Villain deck. SV: Shuffle the Villain Trash into the Villain Deck.
I thought rats deserted a sinking ship!
I can take the lightning damage. But shouldn't it be just 1 damage? Maria Helena is not crew, I believe.
You are correct, sir. Apparently Maria Helena is not part of her own crew…
Editing now!
I'm more interested in how she got a pirate ship into a Martian Base
I’m thinking she has a sand sailing attachment.
So obvious, I can't believe I didn't think of that.
So for Turmoil. . .
I'm going to have to input my turn, then wait for the player of the chosen deck to respond and then I'll edit my turn with my selection.
Omnitron-X will be doing similar things as well.
So this game could take a while.
Fortunately, those both happen near the end of the turn, so we may not need a response from you before continuing with the next player. I guess Omnitron-X is more likely to be doing things after playing one power. Anyway, we'll see. The last game was really short.
Dominion with Wagner Mars...this will be fun
Mostly I'll be doing the environment and villain decks, so we'll have to wait.
I am online quite a bit, so i don’t think tthere’ll be too much of a delay. Plus, I just got a new smartphone…
Bunker
HP: 28
Hand: Recharge Mode, Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode, Adhesive Foam Grenade
In play:
Trash: n/a
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Adhesive Foam Grenade (Environment cards can't be played till the start of my next turn)
Use a power: Initialize (Draw card: Maintenance Unit)
Draw a card: Flak Cannon
End of hero turn:
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HP: 28
Hand: Recharge Mode, Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode, Maintenance Unit, Flak Cannon
In play:
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade
Additional effects:
(So, it looks like unless La Capitan is flipped or other characters are throwing out junk equipment I'll only be getting one use out of my Equipment cards. Not sure if anyone has support cards to help with this. I'll probably be doing Flak Cannon next turn.)
(Oh, i now see it also affects Ongoing cards. That could be good or bad I suppose.)
Haka
HP: 26
Hand: Mere, Dominion, Punish the Weak, Haka of Restoration
In Play:
Trash: n/a
Additional effects: Can't use powers
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: n/a
Use a power: n/a
Draw a card: Drawing 2: Ground Pound and Haka of Shielding
End of hero turn:
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HP: 26
Hand: Mere, Dominion, Punish the Weak, Haka of Restoration, Ground Pound, Haka of Shielding
In Play: n/a
Trash: n/a
Additional effects: Can't use powers
Is anybody else going to put down any equipment or ongoings? On future rounds I'll be happy to contribute equipment or ongoings to be sacrificed, but I would like to get out and keep out my Dual Crowbars. But if nobody else has anything to offer, I'll put out my Bloody Knuckles and let them get eaten.
Ah, so now we know who is really inside that suit!
Fixed. Sorry 'bout that.
In regards to the other comment, i'll be putting down equipment next round so I can do some damage. I'd rather not lose it, but that's the way this game is going to go. I guess i could play some of my ongoing mode cards too, if you need your weapons around a while.
That would be very helpful. My hero does much better with two different cards in play (a tool and a style); I can put one of them down each turn, but would like to be able to keep one of them.
Update: This is edited following Omnitron-X’s comments. Orginial version is stuck out.
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Mr. Fixer
HP: 27
Hand: Tire Iron, Dual Crowbars, Bloody Knuckles, Grease Monkey Fist
In play:
Trash:
Additional effects:
[hr]
Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Bloody Knuckles Dual Crowbars
Use a power: Strike. Deal 3 damage to La Paradoja Magnifica. Deal 2 damage each to La Paradoja Magnifica (13) and La Capitan (73).
Draw a card: Hoist Chain
End of hero turn:
[hr]
Mr. Fixer
HP: 27
Hand: Tire Iron, Dual Crowbars, Bloody Knuckles, Grease Monkey Fist, Hoist Chain
In play: Bloody Knuckles (Ongoing) Dual Crowbars (Equipment, Tool)
Trash:
Additional effects: Dual Crowbars: +1 damage given. Whenever I deal damage to a target, deal the same amount to another target.
If you want to change that, I'm happy to play this by chucking out as much stuff as I can; if I Timeshift myself a bit I can probably outpace La Cap's innate destruction.
Omnitron-X
HP: 25
Hand: Reset, Reset, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Elemental Exochassis
In Play:
Trash:
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Reset; draw and play Electro-Deployment Unit
Use a power: Timeshift; reveal Reset; shuffle trash into my deck, draw Singularity, play Elemental Exochassis
Draw a card: Temporal Shielding
End of hero turn:
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HP: 25
Hand: Reset, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Singularity, Temporal Shielding
In Play: Electro-Deployment Unit, Elemental Exochassis
Trash: Reset
Additional effects:
I edited my turn above. Let me know if I should restore the earlier version.
Dark Visionary
HP: 25
Hand: Demoralization, Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence, Wrest the Mind
In Play:
Trash:
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Demoralization
Use a power: Turmoil on the Villain Deck
Draw a card: Twist the Ether
End of hero turn:
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HP: 25
Hand: Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence, Twist the Ether, Wrest the Mind
In Play: Demoralization
Trash:
Additional effects:
Villain Deck Options from Turmoil: Trueshot (9hp crewmember) or Plunder (Destroy H Ongoings/Equipment, villain targets regain 2 hp)
Wagner Mars Base
Start of Environment Turn: n/a
Play a Card: Blocked by Adhesive Foam Grenade
End of Environment Turn: n/a
[When it comes to it, the Captain can have my plating]
(For future reference, playing Turmoil on La Capitan's deck isn't going to do anything while she has her boat in play. The first thing she'll do each turn is shuffle the trash into the deck, foiling your scrying...)
La Capitan
La Capitan [73]
In Play: La Paradoja Magnifica [13]
Trash: n/a
Additional Effects:
* SV: If there are 3+ cards beneath La Capitan, she flips. Whenever she destroys a Hero card, it goes under La Capitan. Destroy a Hero Ongoing/Equipment card (Advanced)
*EV: Deal highest hp Hero target H-1 Projectile.
* La Paradoja Magnifica: EV: Play the top card of the Villain Deck; SV: Shuffle Villain Trash into the Villain Deck
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Start of Villain Turn: Flip? Nope. La Capitan destroys O-X's Plating (1 card under her). La Paradoja Magnifica shuffles the villain trash into the villain deck..
Play a Card: Plunder: Destroys Dual Crowbars and ElectroDeployment Unit (3 cards under her). La Capitan and her ship regain 2 hp [75 and 15, respectively]
End of Villain Turn:: Bunker takes 4 projectile damage [24].
La Paradoja Magnifica lets La Capitan play another Villain Card: Raiding Party--The Amazing Mable [6], Trueshot ]9], Chip [8], and Siege-Breaker enter play [10].
Mable: No Ongoings/Equipment left to destroy :(
Trueshot: Fixer takes 4 projectile damage [23].
Chip: Haka takes 2 projectile damage [24].
Siege-Breaker: O-X and Visionary both take 3 irreducible fire damage [22 and 22].
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La Capitan [75]
In Play: La Paradoja Magnifica [15], Mable [6], Trueshot [9], Chip [8], Siege-Breaker [10]
Trash: Walk the Plank (x2), All Together Now (x2), Raiding Party, A Motley Crew (x2), Plunder (x2)
Additional Effects:
SV: If there are 3+ cards beneath La Capitan, she flips. Whenever she destroys a Hero card, it goes beneath La Capitan. Destroy a Hero Ongoing/Equipment card.
EV: Deal highest hp Hero target H-1 Projectile damage.
La Paradoja Magnifica: EV: Play the top card of the Villain deck. SV: Shuffle the Villain Trash into the Villain Deck.
Bunker
HP: 24
Hand: Recharge Mode, Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode, Maintenance Unit, Flak Cannon
In play:
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Flak Cannon (Equipment)
Use a power: Flak Cannon (3 Projectile damage to Mable [3])
Draw a card: Heavy Plating
End of hero turn:
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HP: 24
Hand: Recharge Mode, Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode, Maintenance Unit, Heavy Plating
In play: Flak Cannon (Equipment)
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade
Additional effects:
Interesting fact. As of last night i've played as every hero (minus those in Rook City). I played a solo game with Argent Adapt, Tachyon (she by far was MVP), NightMist, and Chrono Ranger vs Gloomweaver. No one died. Argent kept letting Tachyon get her do x where x = burst in trash by retrieving that card from her trash, so i was doing some great damage from that. Managed to kill his three Relics which ends the game. Environment was his home, Realm of Discord (If possible, i like to play with their 'native' environment when fighting a villian for the first time. It's also the first time i've killed a Rank 3 villian. Took many hours though....
This is my first time fighting La Capitan. (I don't look at the decks before using them the first time.) She sure seems to have a lot of minions!
It's not that she has a *lot* of minions. Rather, she has 7-8 crewmembers who can bring the hurt all on their own...and keep coming back.
Haka
HP: 24
Hand: Mere, Dominion, Punish the Weak, Haka of Restoration, Ground Pound, Haka of Shielding
In Play:
Trash: n/a
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Mere
Use a power: Mere, 2 damage to La Paradoja (13) draw Elbow Smash
Draw a card: Ta Moko
End of hero turn:
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HP: 24
Hand: Dominion, Punish the Weak, Haka of Restoration, Ground Pound, Haka of Shielding, Elbow Smash, Ta Moko
In Play: Mere
Trash: n/a
Additional effects: Can't use powers
Demoralization was also out, so it got destroyed in there and should be under her card.
Sorry about the late post and the dumb move, my son was a holy screaming terror.
I'm sorry, but Plunder should only have destroyed one ongoing/equipment: Maria Helena is still not crew...
Mable destroys another one. That makes a total of 3 ongoing/equipments destroyed, so we can keep one of Demoralization, Pipe Wrench, and Electro-Deployment Unit (since we had agreed to destroy the plating). Any votes? I nominate the Electro-Deployment Unit, just to have some hope of staying ahead of the destruction.
Yeah, I was hoping to keep demoralization, but it isn't as good as Electro-deployment.
Also I would imagine the best thing for me is to take over Siege Breaker with Wrest the mind. We just need Mable dead, and she's immune to melee. Good thing we have a fix for that.
I could kill her next round, if I don't lose my Flak Cannon and nothing else happens (reduce damage,etc...)
Well, Wrest the Mind on Siege Breaker could take care of that for us
Well, Wrest the Mid on Siege Breaker could take care of that for us
This is assuming that we’re keeping the Electro-Deployment Unit, which seemed to be the concensus. I don’t mind losing the Tire Iron if necessary.
Mr. Fixer
HP: 23
Hand: Tire Iron, Bloody Knuckles, Grease Monkey Fist, Hoist Chain
In play:
Trash: Dual Crowbars
Additional effects:
[hr]
Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Tire Iron
Use a power: Strike. Deal 1 projectile damage to Mable (2). Mable is then destroyed.
Draw a card: Meditation
End of hero turn:
[hr]
HP: 23
Hand: Bloody Knuckles, Grease Monkey Fist, Hoist Chain, Meditation
In play: Tire Iron (Equipment, Tool)
Trash: Dual Crowbars
Additional effects: Tire Iron: All damage dealt by Mr. Fixer is projectile. After Mr. Fixer damages a target, if that target has 2 or fewer HP, destroy it.
I guess you could say the "fix" is in.
I got one joke, but I get my money's worth.
We need some luck from Omnitron, see if we can keep Flak Cannon and Wrest the Mind.
Omnitron-X
HP: 22
Hand: Reset, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Singularity, Temporal Shielding
In Play: Electro-Deployment Unit
Trash: Reset, [Elemental Exochassis]
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn: Electro-Deployment Unit lets me play Gaussian Coil Blaster.
Gaussian Coil Blaster deals 1 damage to Chip [7]. the Boat [12] and the Captain [74]
Play a card: Reset; draw and play Innervation Ray
Use a power: Timeshift self; reveal Technological Advancement; bring out an Ablatice Coating, draw Slip Through Time.
Draw a card: Innervation Ray
End of hero turn:
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HP: 25
Hand: Singularity, Temporal Shielding, Slip Throught Time, Innervation Ray
In Play: Electro-Deployment Unit, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Innervation Ray, Ablative Coating
Trash: Reset, Technological Advancement, [Elemental Exochassis]
Additional effects:
[Would anyone else particularly benefit from Timeshft?]
Great turn Omni.
Dark Visionary
HP: 22
Hand: , Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence, Twist the Ether, Wrest the Mind
In Play:
Trash: Demoralization
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Wrest the Mind on Siege Breaker
Use a power: Turmoil on the Environment Deck
Draw a card: Mental Divergence
End of hero turn:
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HP: 22
Hand: Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence(2), Twist the Ether
In Play: Wrest the Mind(siegebreaker)
Trash: Demoralization
Additional effects:
I'll be away for the night, so feel free to let others decide which to keep on top and which to put on bottom this time. If it is obvious just go with what the obvious one would be.
For Wrest the Mind I'll be directing Siege Breaker to hit La Paradoja Magnifica both times, and of course him and me both getting hit with the damage from WTM.
The ship is at 12, btw
Sorry on the early confusion--I keep forgetting that La Capitan isn't a member of her own crew. Weird, funky rule there: Dawn is a Citizen, Voss is a Thorathian, but La Capitan isn't a member of her own crew. Weird. I have no issues with you guys leaving ElectroDeployment Unit out--it was my bad in the first place.
Your options for the Environment Deck are Pervasive Red Dust or Fire in the Biosphere.
La Capitan will still flip on her turn, as she has 3 cards underneath her (Demoralization, an O-X plating, and a Pipe Wrench).
Fire on top, Red dust on the bottom.
Agreed, the Fire is a little better for us.
Wagner Mars Base
Start of Environment Turn: n/a
Play a Card: Fire in the Biosphere: Haka [20], Bunker [20] and Fixer [19] take 4 fire damage, as they have no ongoings to destroy. O-X [20] takes 2, due to destroying Gaussian Coil-Blaster. Visionary may take eithe 2 (if she destroys Wrest the Mind) or 4 (if she does not)--I'm assuming she's not, considering the strategy listed upthread, bringing her to [18].
Fire in the Biosphere stays in play--to destroy, 1 player may discard 2 cards at the start of the environment turn.
End of Environment Turn: n/a
[Edit--updated to fix O-X's plating issue vs. Coil-Blaster]
Doesn't that deal 2 and 2 damage, rather than dealing 4, so OX wouldn't actually take any?
EDIT: Wait, no, moot point; I have an Ablative, not an Elemental. I'll destroy my Gaussian Coil Blaster to take 2.
La Capitan: Split Across Time!
La Capitan [74]
In Play: La Paradoja Magnifica [11], Chip [7], Trueshot [9], Siege-Breaker [10]
Trash: Walk The Plank (x2), All Together Now (x2), Raiding Party, A Motley Crew (x2), Plunder (x2), The Amazing Mable (x2)
Additional Effects:
* SV: Each Villain target regains X hp, where X = the number of cards under this card (currenly 3). The first time La Capitan would be dealt damage each round, redirect that damage to the non-villain target with the highest HP.
*EV: If there are no cards beneath La Capitan, flip her!
* La Paradoja Magnifica: EV: Play the top card of the Villain Deck; SV: Shuffle Villain Trash into the Villain Deck
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Start of Villain Turn: Flip? YES! Becomes Split Across Time. La Capitan heals all Villain targets for 3. La Paradoja Magnifica shuffles the villain trash into the villain deck. Chip deals O-X net 0 Projectile damage [20].
Play a Card: L'Epeiste [7] enters play.
End of Villain Turn:
La Paradoja Magnifica lets La Capitan play another Villain Card: A Motley Crew. There are no crew in the villain trash. Play the top card of the Villain Deck: Raiding Party: Final Breath [11], The Amazing Mable [6], and Battle-Forged [12] enter play. Destroy an Ongoing or Equipment Card.
Trueshot: Haka takes 4 projectile damage [16].
Chip: O-X takes net 0 projectile damage. [20].
Siege-Breaker: Siege-Breaker attempts to deal 3 Irreducible fire damage to Fixer and Bunker. Per your instructions, Visionary uses Wrest the Mind. Siege-Breaker deals 6 irreducible fire damage to The Amazing Mable, killing her. Visionary takes 6 psychic damage from Wrest the Mind [12], while Siege Breaker takes 4 due to his DR [6].
L'Epeiste: n/a (acts at SV)
Final Breath: deals Visionary [9] 3 Melee damage.
Battle Forged: Deals Visionary [5] 5 Energy damage.
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La Capitan [75]
In Play: La Paradoja Magnifica [14], Trueshot [9], Chip [8], Siege-Breaker [6]; L'Epeiste [7]; Final Breath [11]; Battle Forged [12]
Trash: all other cards
Additional Effects:
SV: Heal all villain targets = to cards beneath La Capitan (currently 3). The first time La Capitan would be dealt damage each round, redirect to highest HP non-villain target.
EV: If there are no cards beneath La Capitan, flip her back.
La Paradoja Magnifica: EV: Play the top card of the Villain deck. SV: Shuffle the Villain Trash into the Villain Deck.
[Edited to reflect choices from below, damage from Fire in the Biosphere (which only really affects the ship by 1 hp), and to clarify the Wrest The Mind damage]
Also Fire in the Biosphere hits villain and environment targets.
Ablative Plating lets me absorb Chip's first hit, I'll let one of the others take the Trueshot hit and then absorb Chip's second. I'll give my Innervation Ray for the Raiding Party if no-one has anything better, but I'd recomment Visionary takes out Mable instead of damaging the ship; then we don't have to lose a second.
I'll take the Trueshot damage
I'll take the 4 damage from True Shot if I can keep my Equipment. Next round I could give up a card. If no one else wants to lose a card, then I can redo my turn)
Turret Mode is use two powers, but i can't draw cards. Could I use my Draw a Card power?
OK, i'll just take the two damage then. :)
I was planning to attack Mable. I could reduce her to two. Should I attack someone else? Can Visionary finish her off?
One of the destroyed cards can be Tire Iron.
Edit: Nevermind.
Bunker
HP: 16
Hand: Recharge Mode, Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode, Maintenance Unit, Heavy Plating
In play: Flak Cannon (Equipment)
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Maintenance Unit (Equipment)
Use a power: Flak Cannon (3 Projectile damage to La Paradoja Magnifica [11])
Draw a card: Upgrade Mode
End of hero turn:
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HP: 20
Hand: Recharge Mode, Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode, Heavy Plating, Upgrade Mode
In play: Flak Cannon (Equipment), Maintenance Mode (Equipment)
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade
Additional effects:
(I'm thinking I'll go into Turret Mode next round, if I don't lose equipment.
Bunker, hold off on Flak Cannoning MAble since I think we're killing her w/ Siege Bkeaker. I'd recommend Frenchy or the ship
In that case, I would attack the boat. Are we looking to change the previous villian turn, or do that next turn?
Either way, I can shoot the boat.
Haka
HP: 16
Hand: Dominion, Punish the Weak, Haka of Restoration, Ground Pound, Haka of Shielding, Elbow Smash, Ta Moko
In Play:
Trash: n/a
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Gound Pound, Discard Haka of Restoration and Punish the Weak
Use a power: Mere, 2 damage to La Paradoja (9) draw Haka of Battle
Draw a card: Savage Mana
End of hero turn:
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HP: 16
Hand: Dominion, Haka of Shielding, Elbow Smash, Ta Moko, Haka of Battle, Savage Mana
In Play: Mere, Gound Pound
Trash: Haka of Restoration, Punish the Weak
Additional effects: Non-Hero cards can't deal damage
Grim--can you edit your turn to reflect who you're attacking: Mable or the the boat.
cmschex--you guys wouldn't be able to get rid of Mable this turn via Wrest the Mind because Siege-Breaker can't deal damage (Ground-Pound). That means Mable is going to trigger another Villain card and another item/Ongoing destruction unless killed.
I updated my post while you were posting your last comment. It looked like the boat was at 14 due to healing before i attacked, so now it's at 11 before cmschex's turn.
PW, I'm going off the assumption that Dark Viz redirected WtM's damage to Mable instead of the ship in the previous turn as was suggested upthread
I see that now from BHM, but that was after I posted the turn... Is that a consensus decision? If so, Mable is dead and the boat would have started the turn at full health, then taken down 3 from flak cannon and 2 from mere to 10 overall. Otherwise, the turn is as it stands currently.
[Edit--I was 1 hp off, which I've noted below. Boat is at 9hp.]
Yeah, with Mable out I'd go for her with Siege Breaker. Thanks for letting me alter that.
I will adjust this in the above turn momentarily.
As of this post, La Paradoja Magnifica is at 9 hp: Started this turn at 14, took 3 from Flak Cannon, and 2 more from Mere.
Why would Fire in the Biosphere only affect the ship by 1hp? Is there some damage reduction I'm missing, beyond that on Siege-Breaker? It looks like you were making a similar calculation for Chip and Siege-Breaker and La Capitan herself, although it only matters for the ship because the rest get healed immediately.
Tire Iron was destroyed by Raiding Party, per earlier instructions. Updated with damage levels. Updated again with Fire in the Biosphere damage.
Mr. Fixer
HP: 19
Hand: Bloody Knuckles, Grease Monkey Fist, Hoist Chain, Meditation
In play:
Trash: Dual Crowbars, Tire Iron
Additional effects:
[hr]
Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Grease Monkey Fist
Use a power: Strike. Deal 2 infernal damage to La Paradoja Magnifica (6).
Draw a card: Charge
End of hero turn:
[hr]
HP: 19
Hand: Bloody Knuckles, Hoist Chain, Meditation, Charge
In play: Grease Monkey Fist (Ongoing, Style)
Trash: Tire Iron
Additional effects: Grease Monkey Fist: Whenever Mr. Fixer deals damage, you may choose the type of that damage. Increase damage dealt by Mr. Fixer by 1.
4 damage from Fire in the BioSphere, but 3 regained from La Capitan = 1 total damage on the ship.
Previously, the ship did take 2 points of damage, but also regained 2 from Plunder.
Am I off again for some reason? I don't think I am…
It took 2 from Fixer went to full health with Plunder, then took 2 from Mere, 1 from Gaussian Coil Blaster, then 2 from Bio-Sphere, then healed 3. So it would have ended villain turn at 13 health. That's my calculation.
It's the Gaussian Coil-Blaster that I was missing--thanks for keeping me honest.
La Paradoja Magnifica is at 6 hp after Fixer's turn and that adjustment. Sorry bout the miscalculation--lots of targets in this one!
Omnitron-X
HP: 20
Hand: Singularity, Temporal Shielding, Slip Throught Time, Innervation Ray
In Play: Electro-Deployment Unit, Innervation Ray, Ablative Coating
Trash: Reset, Technological Advancement, Gaussian Coil Blaster, [Elemental Exochassis]
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn: Electro-Deployment Unit lets me play Innervation Ray.
Double-Innervate the Visionary, myself and Haka; +2HP to each.
Play a card: Slip Through Time
Use a power: Timeshift self; reveal Technological Advancement; bring out an Electro-Deployment Unit, draw Reactive Plating Subroutine.
Draw a card: Rocket Punch
End of hero turn: Slip Through Time activates; play and use Rocket Punch; 2 damage to the ship [4] and 1 to La Cap (since I believe the card-removal clause activates before the redirection one, this would get rid of one of the cards below her.).
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HP: 22
Hand: Singularity, Temporal Shielding, Reactive Plating Subroutine
In Play: Electro-Deployment Unit x2, Innervation Ray x2, Ablative Coating, Slip Through Time, Rocket Punch
Trash: Reset, Technological Advancement x2, Gaussian Coil Blaster, [Elemental Exochassis]
Additional effects:
So there's definitely a Timeshift going spare next round. Who wants it?
Yes, I think that was an official ruling somewhere. Can we get a list of cards below her in the turn summaries? Right now, I believe she has Elemental Exochassis, Demoralization, Pipe Wrench, and Tire Iron. At some point I'll play Scrap Yard, which would be a reason to get the Equipment cards out from under her; are there other considerations on which cards we should rescue first?
Additional effects: So there's definitely a Timeshift going spare next round. Who wants it?
I would appreciate it, particularly if I don't draw a Grease Gun next turn. (There are currently 2 in my deck, along with many other cards that would help my setup, like Jack Handle.) But maybe someone else has a bigger need.
Capitan doesn't steal on her flip side, so Tire Iron is not under her. I'd suggest rescuing Pipe Wrench, assuming we have a choice.
Thanks. And, I should have said Dual Crowbars instead of Pipe Wrench. It's still a good target to rescue first, not that it matters much.
Yeah, we should be able to choose, and Crowbars is a good choice.
Dark Visionary
HP: 7
Hand: , Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence(2), Twist the Ether
In Play: Wrest the Mind (seige Breaker)
Trash: Demoralization
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Twist the Ether on Dark Visionary
Use a power: Turmoil on the Dark Visionary Deck, Mass Levitation to bottom of deck, Decoy Projection to top.
Draw a card: Decoy Projection
End of hero turn:
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HP: 7
Hand: Decoy Projection, Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence(2)
In Play: Twist the Ether (Dark Visionary), Wrest the Mind (Siegebreaker)
Trash: Demoralization
Additional effects:
No wresting this round. If Bunker goes Turret Mode Timeshift will be really valuable on him. I hope to stay alive and use Seige Breaker as a turret for a bit, we'll see how that goes, we need to get Battle Forged and Final Breath off the field though, or I'm dead.
I assume we are letting Biosphere run this turn since it cannot do damage. I can discard for it next turn.
yes--the three cards beneath her are Demoralization, Elemental Exochassis, and Tire Iron.
[Edit--Yup, I was totally wrong on the La Capitan ruling. Enjoy your Dual Crowbars!]
There was a specific ruling on this: https://greaterthangames.com/comment/33451#comment-33451
I just found that same ruling, myself. You guys are right--enjoy your Dual Crowbars. :D
Wagner Mars Base
Start of Environment Turn: Destroying Fire in the Biosphere? Consensus was no.
Play a Card: Meteor Swarm: All targets are immune to damage. At the start of your turn, a hero may skip the rest of their turn to eliminate Meteor Swarm.
End of Environment Turn: Fire in the Biosphere cannot deal damage this turn due to Ground Pound.
Remind me...If I skipped my turn as Haka, would Ground Pound's destruction happen before or after that? I'm assuming before since it was in play first?
La Capitan: Split Across Time!
La Capitan [75]
In Play: La Paradoja Magnifica [4], Trueshot [9], Chip [8]; Siege-Breaker [10]; L'Epieiste [7]; Final Breath [11]; Battle Forged [12]
Trash: All other cards.
Additional Effects:
* SV: Each Villain target regains X hp, where X = the number of cards under this card (currenly 2--Elemental Exochassis and Demoralization). The first time La Capitan would be dealt damage each round, redirect that damage to the non-villain target with the highest HP.
*EV: If there are no cards beneath La Capitan, flip her!
* La Paradoja Magnifica: EV: Play the top card of the Villain Deck; SV: Shuffle Villain Trash into the Villain Deck
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Start of Villain Turn: Flip? No. La Capitan heals all Villain targets for 2 (only her boat). La Paradoja Magnifica shuffles the villain trash into the villain deck. Chip cannot deal damage..
Play a Card: Plunder: Destroy 7 Hero cards. (These do not go under La Capitan) La Paradoja Magnifica regains 2 hp (all others are at full health)
End of Villain Turn:
La Paradoja Magnifica lets La Capitan play another Villain Card: Walk The Plank. La Capitan attempts to deal Fixer damage, but cannot because of Ground Pound/Meteor Swarm. Fixer may not use Powers this turn.
Trueshot: Cannot deal damage.
Chip: Cannot deal damage.
Siege-Breaker: Cannot deal damage.
L'Epeiste: Cannot deal damage.
Final Breath: Cannot deal damage.
Battle Forged: Cannot deal damage.
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La Capitan [75]
In Play: La Paradoja Magnifica [8], Trueshot [9], Chip [8], Siege-Breaker [6]; L'Epeiste [7]; Final Breath [11]; Battle Forged [12]
Trash: Plunder; Walk The Plank!
Additional Effects:
SV: Heal all villain targets = to cards beneath La Capitan (currently 2). The first time La Capitan would be dealt damage each round, redirect to highest HP non-villain target.
EV: If there are no cards beneath La Capitan, flip her back.
La Paradoja Magnifica: EV: Play the top card of the Villain deck. SV: Shuffle the Villain Trash into the Villain Deck.
I'd assume that Ground Pound goes before Meteor Swarm, as it's been in play longer.
That said, you could sacrifice Ground Pound to the La Capitan's Plunder card.
Yup. I can definitely offer up Slip Through Time and Rocket Punch, then the Innervation Rays, then the Plating if needed. Also, I think Fixer should be at 19HP, so OX would be the one to get Planked.
EDIT: Actually, I'd throw an EDU before the Plating.
Yeah, drop Ground Pound and Mere to Plunder. Also, does Fixer still get by the powers nerf even if he doesn't take damage (don't have teh card in front of me)
The way I'm reading it Fixer would still be unable to use powers, as the damage and the anti-powers clauses are in different sentences entirely:
"La Capitan deals the hero character card with the highest hp 4 projectile damage. That hero's player cannot use powers until the start of the villain turn."
Fixer was listed above at 23 hp before the Innervation Rays were used and he took no damage this turn, making him the highest. Did something not get tallied on him?
And, can I get a list of what's getting destroyed before this set of Hero turns start?
Right now, I'm tallying 1) Ground Pound, 2) Mere, 3) Slip Through Time, 4) Rocket Punch, 5) EDU, and potentially 6) Ablative Plating, 7) Innervation Ray.
So who do want to skip their turn?
He was at 23 before the Biosphere damage last turn. I think the 23hp listing was a mistake... and switch the Plating for the second Innervation Ray unless anyone wants to offer anything else.
I can offer Grease Monkey Fist at least before the "potential" cards above. I take it we don't want to leave Meteor Storm in play to heal us up a little? It would make sense for me to skip my turn, but of course I come after some of the damage-dealers. Nobody has enviro destruction in hand? Edit: If I don't skip my turn to fix the Meteor Storms, I would probably draw two cards.
Meerkat, you're right--Fixer should be at 19. Fire in the Biosphere wasn't tallied on his write-up.
Right now, I'm seeing the tally as 1) Ground Pound, 2) Mere, 3) Slip Through Time, 4) Rocket Punch, 5) EDU, and two of: a) Grease Monkey Fist; b) Innervation Ray, c) Other Innervation Ray, d) Ablative Plating
Please take Grease Monkey Fist before any of the other three. I updated my turn with the damage from Fire in the Biosphere (sorry!)
No worries, man. I've made more than my share of mistakes so far, trying to juggle all these villain targets...
This does mean, though, that O-X (rather than Fixer) cannot use Powers this turn.
Item/Ongoing destruction stands as follows, unless there are any further objections/changes:
1) Ground Pound, 2) Mere, 3) Slip Through Time, 4) Rocket Punch, 5) EDU, 6) Grease Monkey Fist; 7) Innervation Ray #1
I'd like to hear input from Bunker before finalizing the destruction list.
I guess I could give up Flak Cannon. I should get another attack card soonish. I would also be willing to skip my turn. Giving up Flak Cannon,I will not be going into Turret mode on my next available turn.
Bunker
HP: 16
Hand: Recharge Mode, Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode, Maintenance Unit, Heavy Plating
In play: Flak Cannon (Equipment) Maintenance Unit (Equipment)
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn: Bunker shoots down all the meteors with his Flak Cannon, but doing so, becomes winded. While he is rests La Capitan sneaks up and grabs it away. (I know technically these things happened in the reverse order, but I don't care.)
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HP: 16
Hand: Recharge Mode, Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode, Heavy Plating, Upgrade Mode
In play: Maintenance Unit (Equipment)
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade, Flak Cannon
Additional effects:
(Noticed a discrepency in my HP from last turn. I think I've fixed it properly.)
Current list being destroyed by Plunder:
1) Ground Pound, 2) Mere, 3) Slip Through Time, 4) Rocket Punch, 5) EDU, 6) Grease Monkey Fist; 7) Flak Cannon
Bunker has elected to skip his turn to destroy Meteor Swarm, so damage is back on the table for all parties.
Also, Bunker, you're at 16 hp--the turn prior to this round had you jump from 16 to 20 for no apparent reason.
OK. I noticed I had both values on my last turn and went through it to see what was messed up, but must have overlooked something. I'll fix it.
Haka
HP: 18
Hand: Dominion, Haka of Shielding, Elbow Smash, Ta Moko, Haka of Battle, Savage Mana
In Play:
Trash: Haka of Restoration, Punish the Weak, Mere, Gound Pound
Additional effects: Non-Hero cards can't deal damage
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Elbow Smash La Paradoja for 3 (5)
Use a power: Crush, 2 damage to La Paradoja (3)
Draw a card: Taiaha!
End of hero turn:
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HP: 18
Hand: Dominion, Haka of Shielding, Taiaha, Ta Moko, Haka of Battle, Savage Mana
In Play:
Trash: Haka of Restoration, Punish the Weak, Mere, Gound Pound, Elbow Smash
Additional effects: Non-Hero cards can't deal damage
So does Visionary have a chance of surviving this round? I can sink the boat, but would it help to instead use my Hoist Chain on one of the two most damaging crew?
Looking at the situation, it seems like there’s a non-zero chance O-X will play Singularity (since it seems like there’s a good chance L’Épéiste would otherwise destroy the components). I don’t want to wait for a response, so I’ll provide two options for my turn. This is Option A: If Omnitronks does plan to play Singularity, with enough damage to kill La Paradoja Magnifica. BlueHairedMeerkat, please choose between these two options before playing your turn. (I planned out both options until drawing a card before doing the draw.)
On this option, please feel free to blow up the Hoist Chain with Singularity.
Mr. Fixer
HP: 19
Hand: Bloody Knuckles, Hoist Chain, Meditation, Charge
In play:
Trash: Tire Iron, Grease Monkey Fist
Additional effects:
[hr]
Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Hoist Chain
Use a power: Strike. Deal 1 melee damage to Battle Forged (11). Damage dealt by Battle Forged is reduced by 1 until the start of my next turn.
Draw a card: Tool Box
End of hero turn:
[hr]
HP: 19
Hand: Bloody Knuckles, Meditation, Charge, Tool Box
In play: Hoist Chain
Trash: Tire Iron, Grease Monkey Fist
Additional effects: Damage dealt by Battle Forged is reduced by 1 until the start of my next turn.
This is Option B: If Omnitronks does not plan to play Singularity. (Deleted, now obsolete.)
Well, I had hoped to push someone's health higher than mine and thus avoid taking that hit (thus keeping out the components), it now seems rather unavoidable, so I shall go with Option A.
Omnitron-X
HP: 22
Hand: Singularity, Temporal Shielding, Reactive Plating Subroutine
In Play: Electro-Deployment Unit, Innervation Ray x2, Ablative Coating
Trash: Reset, Technological Advancement x2, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Electro-Deployment Unit, Slip Through Time, Rocket Punch, [Elemental Exochassis]
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn: Electro-Deployment Unit lets me draw Rocket Punch.
Double-Innervate the Visionary, myself and Bunker; +2HP to each.
Play a card: Singularity; destroy Hoist Chain, the EDU and both Innervation Rays to deal 4 damage to all non-hero targets; I'll take my Exochassis back from under the Captain, and the boat crumbles.
Use a power: Nahhh.
Draw a card: Self-Sabotage
End of hero turn:
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HP: 24
Hand: Temporal Shielding, Reactive Plating Subroutine, Rocket Punch, Self Sabotage
In Play: Ablative Coating
Trash: Reset, Technological Advancement x2, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Electro-Deployment Unit x2, Slip Through Time, Rocket Punch, Innervation Ray x2, Singularity, Elemental Exochassis
Additional effects:
Good news, O-X--Singularity deals damage to ALL non-hero targets. Amend your turn, por favor!
Yeah, I remembered Walk the Plank after I typed it, you replied before I could finish this edit.
Damage results:
La Capitan = -1 card under her
La Paradoja Magnifica = 0hp destroyed.
Trueshot = 5 hp (will heal when I play a card)
Chip = 4hp
Siege Breaker = 5hp
L'Epieste = 3hp
Final Breath = 8hp
Battle Forged = 8hp
Edit for 4 damage
It can't timeshift this round because of Walk the Plank.
SWEET!
Since O-X just blew up all its components, and will also be taking damage from Trueshot anyway, I don't think 5 damage is particularly a barrier to avoid. I figured trying to give you a tiny bit more life was higher priority…
Dark Visionary
HP: 9
Hand: Decoy Projection, Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence(2)
In Play: Twist the Ether (Dark Visionary), Wrest the Mind (Seige Breaker)
Trash: Demoralization
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Decoy Projection[5] (is not ongiong or equip)
Use a power: Turmoil on the Villain Deck
Draw a card: Mind Spike
End of hero turn:
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HP: 9
Hand: Mind Spike, Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence(2)
In Play: Decoy Projection [5], Twist the Ether (Dark Visionary), Wrest the Mind (Siegebreaker)
Trash: Demoralization
Additional effects:
I can't tell what I'll do with WtM and TtE until the environment and villain card play.
Choices for Turmoil are:
1) Walk the Plank: highest hp hero takes 3 projectile; that hero cannot use Powers this turn.
2) A Motley Crew: Pull H-2 cards from the villain trash (currently none); Play the top card of the villain deck.
I'll put Crew on the bottom. Sorry Omni.
Wagner Mars Base
Start of Environment Turn: Destroying Fire in the Biosphere? At last check, Visionary had planned on discarding the necessary 2 cards.
Play a Card: Oxygen Leak: Reduce all Fire damage by 3 (currently only Siege-Breaker is affected).
End of Environment Turn: 1 player may discard 1 card to destroy Oxygen Leak; it will deal damage (2) to all targets at the Start of next Environment turn, if you do not.
La Capitan: Split Across Time!
La Capitan [75]
In Play: Trueshot [9], Chip [4]; Siege-Breaker [5]; L'Epieiste [3]; Final Breath [8]; Battle Forged [7]
Trash: Plunder, Walk The Plank, La Paradoja Magnifica
Additional Effects:
* SV: Each Villain target regains X hp, where X = the number of cards under this card (currenly 1--Demoralization). The first time La Capitan would be dealt damage each round, redirect that damage to the non-villain target with the highest HP.
*EV: If there are no cards beneath La Capitan, flip her!
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Start of Villain Turn: Flip? No. La Capitan heals all Villain targets for 1. Chip deals O-X negligible projectile damage. L'Epeiste deals O-X 5 Energy damage [19] and destroys 0 components.
Play a Card: Walk The Plank: O-X takes net 1 projectile damage.[18] O-X may not use Powers this turn.
End of Villain Turn:
Trueshot: Deals Fixer 4 Projectile damage [15]
Chip: Deals O-X negiligible Projectile damage [18].
Siege-Breaker: Visionary uses Wrest the Mind to redirect both of S-B's damage instances to Final Breath [3]. Neither Visionary nor Siege-Breaker take damage, due to the Oxygen Leak/Twist the Ether combo.
L'Epeiste: Dealt damage at the SV.
Final Breath:Attempts to deal Visionary 3 Toxic, which is routed to the Decoy Projections [2].
Battle Forged: Attempts to deal Visionary net 4 Energy, which is routed to the Decoy Projection [destroyed].
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La Capitan [75]
In Play: Trueshot [9], Chip [5], Siege-Breaker [6], L'Epeiste [4]; Final Breath [3]; Battle Forged [8]
Trash: Plunder; Walk The Plank! (x2); La Paradoja Magnifica, Siege-Breaker
Additional Effects:
SV: Heal all villain targets = to cards beneath La Capitan (currently 2). The first time La Capitan would be dealt damage each round, redirect to highest HP non-villain target.
EV: If there are no cards beneath La Capitan, flip her back.
I'm guessing you didn't actually do it, since Walk the Plank got played anyway, but the ship doesn't do the trash-shuffling. Either way, that one damage takes me below Fixer, meaning he has to take the four damage and I absorb the two.
You are correct, sir. Thanks for keeping me honest! It's now fixed.
Battle Forged was actually at 7 at the start of the villain turn. I did 1 damage.
AWESOME!!!
I will not destroy fire in the biosphere, it will do no damage due to oxygen leak.
Siege Breaker will hit Final Breath for 3 and 3 irreducible fire damage, after each I will hit him and me for fire damage that is reduced to 0.
So 6 damage to final breath and 0 to me or Siegebreaker.
Shouldn't Battle Forged go first? He was listed first before. Otherwise the top card of the villain deck needs played.
Meteor Storm is the only card in the trash, so we should take the 1 damage next turn, the longer Oxygen Leak stays out the longer I can keep Siege Breaker on our side, and since it does 2+2 damage, it won't get through Oxygen leak to hurt anyone.
EDIT: Actually I wouldn't have known about oxygen leak, so I'll discard Mental Divergence and Mass Levitation to destroy it. Got all excited for a moment there.
If we keep Oxygen Leak, it might help us clear the field.
Well played! I forgot about Twist the Ether altering the damage type on Wrest the Mind! I'll adjust the turns above.
[Edit--I just edited the turn above, so that Wrest the Mind hits Final Breath, while also taking out Siege-Breaker. Let me know if that's not what you wanted. Also, I factored in the 1 damage on Battle Forged from Fixer.]
I think they wanted to deal no (fire) damage to Final Breath, to use him as a flamethrower for as long as Oxygen Leak is in play.
In his edits above, phantaskippy chose to destroy Oxygen Leak. My villain turn edits reflected that.
Oh, sorry, my post was confusing. I discard to destroy Fire in the Biosphere, because I didn't know Oxygen leak would be played. Leave Oxygen leak, kill Fire.
With that gone I'll do the 6 to final breath, 0 to siege breaker (turn to fire and keep below three), and 0 to myself (same)
The cards I discard are Mental Divergence and Mass Levitation.
Man, I knew Dark Visionary would be confusing to run on the forum.
Okay, got it! Adjusting now!
Let me know when it's safe to take my turn, and if there is an environment card for me to destroy. :)
Have any of you tried playing on skype or some other format with more immediate feedback?
There is a very active Google+ community here.
You are safe to go, no environment target needing shot or destroyed, we are keeping Oxygen leak for this round.
People do play on Skype I think, but I don't know anything about it, the G+ games are pretty common though.
Grim, it should be clear for you to go. We don't want to destroy Oxygen Leak, so we can concentrate on clearing some minions
Awesome use of Oxygen Leak! When hitting crew, remember they will all take damage on the env turn. (Is it indeed 2 damage? )
Bunker
HP: 18 (Omni healed)
Hand: Recharge Mode, Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode (2), Maintenance Unit, Heavy Plating
In play: Maintenance Unit (Equipment)
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade, Flak Cannon
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Recharge Mode
Use a power: RECHARGING
Draw a card: Gatling Gun (Equipment), Flak Cannon (Equipment)
End of hero turn:
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HP: 18
Hand: Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode (2), Heavy Plating, Gatling Gun, Flak Cannon
In play: Maintenance Unit (Equipment), Recharge Mode
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade, Flak Cannon
Additional effects:
Reduce Damage to Bunker by 1 (Recharge Mode)
(In about three turns I could do some good damage... Just need to play these cards i've drawn and then Turret...)
Haka
HP: 18
Hand: Dominion, Haka of Shielding, Taiaha, Ta Moko, Haka of Battle, Savage Mana
In Play:
Trash: Haka of Restoration, Punish the Weak, Mere, Gound Pound, Elbow Smash
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Taiaha
Use a power: Taiaha to Final Breath (dead) and L'Epieste (1)
Draw a card: Rampage
End of hero turn:
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HP: 18
Hand: Dominion, Haka of Shielding, Rampage, Ta Moko, Haka of Battle, Savage Mana
In Play: Taiaha
Trash: Haka of Restoration, Punish the Weak, Mere, Gound Pound, Elbow Smash
Additional effects:
So by my accounting, L’Épéiste is dead on the environment turn. Battle Forged can be killed by Oxygen Leak+Siege Breaker if he doesn’t heal at all.
Mr. Fixer
HP: 15
Hand: Bloody Knuckles, Meditation, Charge, Tool Box
In play:
Trash: Tire Iron, Grease Monkey Fist, Hoist Chain, Dual Crowbars
Additional effects:
[hr]
Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Tool Box. Draw Overdrive and Meditation.
Use a power: Strike. Deal 1 melee damage to Battle Forged (7).
Draw a card: Salvage Yard
End of hero turn:
[hr]
HP: 15
Hand: Bloody Knuckles, Meditation (x2), Charge, Overdrive, Salvage Yard
In play: Tool Box
Trash: Tire Iron, Grease Monkey Fist, Hoist Chain, Dual Crowbars
Additional effects:
Yes, this is important to remember, we can leave L'Epieste at 1hp and he's dead.
Yeah, it is 2 damage.
So don't damage La Capitan, the environment will clear the last card.
Omni, how anxious are you for Salvage Yard? Update: After looking at your trash, I'm guessing you would really appreciate it next turn. I'll plan on that, barring unexpected developments.
Yeah, a Salvage Yard would be exceptionally wonderful :D
Omnitron-X
HP: 18
Hand: Temporal Shielding, Reactive Plating Subroutine, Rocket Punch, Self Sabotage
In Play: Ablative Coating
Trash: Reset, Technological Advancement x2, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Electro-Deployment Unit x2, Slip Through Time, Rocket Punch, Innervation Ray x2, Singularity, Elemental Exochassis
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Reactive Plating Subroutine
Use a power: Nahhh.
Draw a card: Disruptive Flechettes
End of hero turn:
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HP: 18
Hand: Temporal Shielding, Disruptive Flechettes, Rocket Punch, Self Sabotage
In Play: Ablative Coating, Reactive Plating Subroutine
Trash: Reset, Technological Advancement x2, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Electro-Deployment Unit x2, Slip Through Time, Rocket Punch, Innervation Ray x2, Singularity, Elemental Exochassis
Additional effects:
Dark Visionary
HP: 9
Hand: Mental Divergence, Mind Spike
In Play: Twist the Ether (Dark Visionary), Wrest the Mind (Seige Breaker)
Trash: Decoy Projection, Demoralization, Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Mind Spike dealing 4 cold Damage to Chip(1)
Use a power: Turmoil on the Villain Deck
Draw a card: Suggestion
End of hero turn:
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HP: 9
Hand: Mental Divergence, Suggestion
In Play: Twist the Ether (Dark Visionary), Wrest the Mind (Siegebreaker)
Trash: Decoy Projection, Demoralization, Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence, Mind Spike
Additional effects:
Options for Turmoil are:
1) Raiding Party: Pull H-1 crew members from the Deck; destroy one ongoing/equipment card. The only crew member in the Villain Deck is Mable, though that'd mean you pull another Villain card.
2) Captain's Orders: Ongoing; lowest villain deals the lowest hero damage at the EV.
Wagner Mars Base
Start of Environment Turn: Oxygen Leak deals 2 Toxic damage to everyone. Notable results from this are as follows:
Heroes: Bunker [18] (takes none from Heavy Plating/Recharge Mode); Haka [16]; Fixer [13]; O-X [18] (no damage, thanks to Ablative Coating); Visionary [7]
Villains: La Capitan loses her last card (Demoralization) and will flip. Trueshot [7]; Chip dies; Siege-Breaker [5] (only takes 1 due to DR); L'Epeiste (still dead); Final Breath (also still dead); Battle-Forged [5]
Play a Card: Oxygen Leak #2.
End of Environment Turn: 1 player may discard 1 card to destroy either Oxygen Leak; it will deal damage (2) to all targets at the Start of next Environment turn, if you do not.
Let’s kill one Oxygen Leak to take 3 damage instead of 4 next env turn. I can discard one Meditation. Also, Toolbox has served its purpose and can be destroyed this villain turn.
Go With Captains orders on top, Raiding Party on bottom.
EDIT: Don't worry, I'll live, I have a plan.
I guess that's gonna be Raiding Party because I think Captain's Orders would kill Visionary
Just one note: Mable plays a card at the start of the Villain turn. I pretty sure we could kill her before that comes around. It would mean two more cards destroyed, though (one from Raiding Party and one from Mable), which I guess would mean La Capitan would flip back next round. Anyway, it sounds like Visionary has some scheme…
One possibility: if you play Upgrade Mode/Gun #1 on this turn, then Gun #2/Turret Mode next turn, you'll be able to unload with two guns next round.
Doesn’t have Grenade Launcher, only Flak Cannon. H could still play Gatling Gun and Flak Cannon, then use Flak and Maintanence each turn with +1 to Gat and Flak each turn. Or something else.
Unless maybe if Bunker is done with Maintenance Mode? Then I would pick that one to destroy first.
You're right, of course. I didn't have the card in front of me because, y'know…it's in the villain deck. 
[Edited, after Visionary's Wrest the Mind shenanigans.]
La Capitan:
La Capitan [75]
In Play: Trueshot [7], Siege-Breaker [5]; Battle Forged [5]
Trash: Plunder, Walk The Plank (x2), La Paradoja Magnifica; Chip Final Breath; L'Epeiste
Additional Effects:
* SV: Destroy a Hero Ongoing/Equipment Card. If there are 3+ cards beneath La Capitan, flip her.
*EV: Deal Hero target with highest hp H-1 Projectile damage.
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Start of Villain Turn: Flip? Yes. She returns to her Time Corsair side.. La Capitan destroys one Ongoing/Equipment card. (Currently Toolbox, unless someone has something else.)
Play a Card: Captain's Orders: Ongoing. At the EV, the villain target with the lowest HP deals the lowest HP hero target H-1 Melee.
End of Villain Turn:
La Capitan: deals Bunker or O-X net 2 projectile damage [16] (if O-X, then Reactive Plating can deal backlash damage.)
Trueshot: Deals Bunker or O-X net 2 projectile damage [16] (whoever didn't take damage from La Capitan takes this; same scenario for Reactive Plating)
Siege-Breaker: Siege-Breaker attempts to deal damage, but Visionary uses Wrest the Mind to deal both instances of damage on Battle-Forged, killing him. Backlash damage from Wrest the Mind is converted to Fire (via Twist the Ether) and is negated by the Oxygen Leak.
Battle Forged: Dead!
Captain's Orders: Siege-Breaker attempts to deal Visionary 4 melee, but is redirected to La Capitan [71] via Wrest the Mind. Again, no backlash due to Twist the Ether/Oxygen Leak shenanigans. (Wow, what a turn!)
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La Capitan [71]
In Play: Trueshot [7], Siege-Breaker [5]
Trash: Plunder; Walk The Plank! (x2); La Paradoja Magnifica, Chip; L'Epeiste; Final Breath; Battle Forged
Additional Effects:
SV: Destroy 1 Hero Ongoing/Equipment card. If 3+ cards under La Capitan, she flips.
EV: Deal highest hp hero target H-1 projectile.
La Capitan doesn't flip until the end of her turn, so she won't destroy anything at the start of her turn. Which means no cards will be destroyed this turn, yay!
Yeah, redirect Siege Breaker twice to kill Battleforged, turn damage to fire, keep under three so neither of us take damage.
Then Cpt. Helena orders Siege Breaker to hit me, I'll redirect that 4 damage back to La Capitan(71) and do the fire switch, no damage from WtM thing.
Man I love this Hero.
Now we need to destroy the oxygen leaks.
And yeah, no destruction this turn, She flips at the end of the turn.
I just updated to reflect your Wrest the Mind/Oxygen Leak/Twist the Ether shenanigans.
Very well played turn, gang!
Man, that was well played.
It's always good when you can watch a game being played that you have played countless times before and learn something new.
Pretty awesome…
Now we need to destroy the oxygen leaks.
I already destroyed one by discarding Meditation. Do you want the other one gone or not? Captain’s Order’s remains out (unless we kill it), so we can presumably pull off the same trick again next turn. I suspect Omnitron will start healing us all again soon.
The only problem is the toxic damage is up to three now. We can keep it going though if other people are cool with it.
If you liked that turn the next is going to be better, although not as flashy.
You're at lowest heath, I think it's your decision. I might suggest killing off Seige Breaker the turn before we decide to destroy it, so that you don't take any feedback damage.
If you liked that turn the next is going to be better, although not as flashy.
Eagerly waiting… At a guess, you'll do something fun with Suggestion.
Well yeah not too fun, just going to bury her ship. not as cool, but she's pretty much toast once that is gone. Then I can ignore her deck till she shuffles it.
Actually, I forgot that isn't this turn, this turn I need to play Mental Divergence, so it will just be a boring turn.
PlatinumWarlock, will you let me change my discard for the Oxygen Leak from Meditation to Overdrive, or has too much time passed?
Yeah, sure--it doesn't change any real results and the Hero turns haven't started yet.
I actually take 1 damage. The bottom of my last post had Heavy Plating listed instead of Recharge Mode listed as In Play. I apologize and have fixed it.
In regards to other things, I would like to keep Recharge Mode one more turn to build up my hand for my attack card that requires discards. On the NEXT turn however, La Capitan can take it.
Sure thing. It's your go!
Bunker
HP: 14
Hand: Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode (2), Heavy Plating, Gatling Gun, Flak Cannon
In play: Maintenance Unit (Equipment), Recharge Mode
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade, Flak Cannon
Additional effects: Bunker takes -1 damage from Recharge Mode
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: RECHARGING
Use a power: RECHARGING
Draw a card: External Combustion, Ammo Drop, Recharge Mode
End of hero turn:
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HP: 14
Hand: Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode (2), Heavy Plating, Gatling Gun, Flak Cannon, External Combustion, Ammo Drop, Recharge Mode
In play: Maintenance Unit (Equipment), Recharge Mode
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade, Flak Cannon
Additional effects:
Reduce Damage to Bunker by 1 (Recharge Mode)
On La Capitan's turn, she can take Recharge Mode.
I will use Ammo Drop as soon as a Villian Card is destroyed. -- Nevermind. I thought Ammo Drop was a one shot type card. I need to play it first.
When it comes to healing time, don't worry about me. When I Turret i'll only have two Powers to use and one of them heals me. (Maintenance Mode)
You can draw 3 cards.
Me? Why? Make sure to note my edit about Ammo Drop. (I actually need to play it first.)
I'm new… this is only my second time playing Bunker. First time I saw the card…
I think you also take 1 more damage from villain damage then. I think you're at 14:
18 - 1 (Oxygen Leak) - 3 (True Shot).
In regards to other things, I would like to keep Recharge Mode one more turn to build up my hand for my attack card that requires discards. On the NEXT turn however, La Capitan can take it.
Just as well, since she didn't destroy anything this round!
Ve're still waiting for Omni-X's retaliation damage. Presumably that will go to La Capitan.
Pydro, I gather that you're doing some moderation duties?
You can ordinarily draw 2 cards if you don't play a card or use a power (as you did this round). You are in Recharge Mode, which lets you draw 1 extra card.
I've taken my correct damage. Sorry, I overlooked that part.
As to the Drawing 3 cards... Recharge Mode yea, I guess you're right. Too bad it's another Recharge Mode....
If this forum didn't let you edit posts, i'd be screwed.
One day i'll learn this game!
I still find out I do things wrong, don't worry about it.
One thing to remember is Fixer's Salvage yard works through mode cards so any discarded equips can go back to your hand to be used again.
I don't have Rook City. What are the full details on this?
Salvage Yard lets all players return all Equipment cards to their hand.
In addition, if Fixer has an "Overdrive" card in his trash, he gets to play it immediately, letting him use his base Strike power twice.
From the trash to the hand.
What he said. :D
Haka
HP: 16
Hand: Dominion, Haka of Shielding, Rampage, Ta Moko, Haka of Battle, Savage Mana
In Play: Taiaha
Trash: Haka of Restoration, Punish the Weak, Mere, Gound Pound, Elbow Smash
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Dominion
Use a power: Taiaha to La Capitan (66) and Trueshot (6)
Draw a card: Haka of Battle
End of hero turn:
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HP: 16
Hand: Dominion, Haka of Shielding, Rampage, Ta Moko, Haka of Battlex2, Savage Mana
In Play: Taiaha, Dominion
Trash: Haka of Restoration, Punish the Weak, Mere, Gound Pound, Elbow Smash
Additional effects:
cmschex, I see you included the 2 redirected damage to La Capitan.
Edit: Updated to reflect that I took the Oxygen Leak damage.
Mr. Fixer
HP: 13
Hand: Bloody Knuckles, Meditation (x2), Charge, Salvage Yard
In play: Tool Box
Trash: Tire Iron, Grease Monkey Fist, Hoist Chain, Dual Crowbars, Overdrive
Additional effects:
[hr]
Start of hero turn: Tool Box returns to my hand.
Play a card: Salvage Yard. All heroes take all equipment cards from their trash to their hands. I play Overdrive from the trash, and may use Strike twice.
Use a power: Strike (twice). Deal 2 total melee damage to La Capitan (64).
Draw a card: Jack Handle
End of hero turn:
[hr]
HP: 13
Hand: Bloody Knuckles, Meditation (x2), Charge, Tire Iron, Hoist Chain, Dual Crowbars, Jack Handle, Tool Box
In play:
Trash: Grease Monkey Fist, Salvage Yard, Overdrive
Additional effects:
Yeah, I'll hit La Cap with my retaliation, and thank you dpt!
Omnitron-X
HP: 16
Hand: Temporal Shielding, Disruptive Flechettes, Rocket Punch, Self Sabotage, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Electro-Deployment Unit x2, Rocket Punch, Innervation Ray x2, Elemental Exochassis
In Play: Ablative Coating, Reactive Plating Subroutine
Trash: Reset, Technological Advancement x2, Slip Through Time, Singularity
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Electro-Deployment Unit
Use a power: Timeshift self, bring out Reset; shuffle my trash into my deck, draw Technological Advancement, play Innervation Ray.
Draw a card: Focused Plasma Cannon
End of hero turn:
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HP: 16
Hand: Temporal Shielding, Disruptive Flechettes, Rocket Punch, Self Sabotage, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Electro-Deployment Unit, Rocket Punch, Innervation Ray, Elemental Exochassis, Technological Advancement, Focused Plasma Cannon
In Play: Ablative Coating, Reactive Plating Subroutine, Electro-Deployment Unit, Innervation Ray
Trash: Reset
Additional effects:
Dark Visionary
HP: 7
Hand: Mental Divergence, Suggestion
In Play: Twist the Ether (Dark Visionary), Wrest the Mind (Seige Breaker)
Trash: Decoy Projection, Demoralization, Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence, Mind Spike
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Mental Divergence
Use a power: Turmoil on the Villain Deck
Draw a card: Wrest the Mind
End of hero turn:
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HP: 7
Hand: Suggestion, Wrest the Mind
In Play: Mental Divergence, Twist the Ether (Dark Visionary), Wrest the Mind (Siegebreaker)
Trash: Decoy Projection, Demoralization, Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence, Mind Spike
Additional effects:
OK, so with a second WtM now, I could mental divergence Mass Levitation, then WTM Trueshot. Keep mass levitation up to shut down Oxygen leak damage, and use Oxygen Leak to shut down WtM damage, but I'd need Omnitron-X to timeshift me two turns from now.
You guys want to try that or go a safer, less convoluted route where I still stack the villain deck every round?
The threat would be if I had to destroy more than two of my cards in one round, I can kill Siegebreaker and Trueshot in one round with themselves taking just one shot of 3 damage (if both TtE and Mass Levitation were destroyed), so as long as I can keep both WtM we'd be fine.
Your HP jumped for some reason.
Hmm, not sure. Your way sounds fun. The danger would be something like Motley Crew followed by Plunder, which would currently destroy a lot of our stuff, although the rest of us also have a lot of equipment.
I'm not sure I follow the full plan, either. If you use Mental Divergence on Mass Levitation, wouldn't you just draw it immediately? Maybe you're planning to forgo your draw? Are you planning to play Suggestion at some point in there?
Your plan is insane. Let's do it.
Crap.
I forgot Wrest the Mind is Limited.
Another brilliant scheme goes up in smoke.
So I could Mass Levitation to keep us from oxygen leak damage and keep Siege Breaker as a Turret, or I could go for Demoralization, kill Siege Breaker and not lose my power each turn.
So that would be sacrificing my power each turn for 6 irreducible damage, or not doing that for 2 to each target each round.
I think I'll kill True Shot this next Villain turn, then we can kill Oxygen leak and I'll kill Siege Breaker. 10 damage a round would have been worth keeping it all out.
Does anyone actually have any environment destruction? I think Omni-X is the only hero with any environmental destruction in deck, and it hasn't found the Bio-Engineering Beam yet. If we discard to patch the leak on the environment turn, you won't be able to use the fire suppression twist that turn. You can also kill Siege Breaker with the feedback whenever you like.
True, keep thinking he is healing, I can kill them both and we can destroy it this turn, someone will have to discard for it.
No, wait, that doesn't work. Seige-Breaker is going to attack 3 times this round, and the feedback from that + the Oxygen Leak damage of 3 would kill you. Why don't we leave Oxygen Leak and you kill off Seige-Breaker this turn, and then we'll destroy the Oxygen Leak next turn?
Options from Turmoil are:
1). The Amazing Mable
2) All Together Now (which would bring back the boat)
Give us Mable, I'll kill her with Siege Breaker before she can act, then we'll deal with Trueshot next round.
Mable won't get hit with the environment, it'll take all six of siegebreaker's damage to kill her.
You could actually kill all of them: the Oxygen Leak will do 3 damage to each, then you could do 6 damage to Trueshot from Siege-Breaker's own attack, and then another 4 damage to Trueshot with Captain's Orders, assuming you make sure that Siege-Breaker has the lowest HP.
Wagner Mars Base
Start of Environment Turn: Oxygen Leak deals 3 Toxic damage to everyone. Notable results from this are as follows:
Heroes: Bunker [12] (takes only 2 from Recharge Mode); Haka [13]; Fixer [12]; O-X [15] (only 1 damage, thanks to Ablative Coating); Visionary [4]
Villains: La Capitan [59]. Trueshot [6]; Siege-Breaker [3] (only takes 2 due to DR)
Play a Card: Villainous Weaponry [5]
End of Environment Turn: 1 player may discard 1 card to destroy either Oxygen Leak; it will deal damage (3) to all targets at the Start of next Environment turn, if you do not. (Consensus was no, at least for this round...)
O-X also gets retaliation from its Reactive Plating. Does Captain's Orders hit non-hero targets (like the Villainous Weaponry)? (I don't have my cards with me.)
Haka and I can easily take out the Villainous Weaponry; we both have multi-target damage that would otherwise go unused.
La Capitan:
La Capitan [59]
In Play: Trueshot [4], Siege-Breaker [2]; Captain's Orders
Trash: Plunder, Walk The Plank (x2), La Paradoja Magnifica; Chip Final Breath; L'Epeiste, Final Breath, Battle Forged
Additional Effects:
* SV: Destroy a Hero Ongoing/Equipment Card. If there are 3+ cards beneath La Capitan, flip her.
*EV: Deal Hero target with highest hp H-1 Projectile damage.
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Start of Villain Turn: Flip? No. La Capitan destroys one Ongoing/Equipment card. (Currently Recharge Mode--1 card of 3 necessary to flip)
Play a Card: The Amazing Mable [6].
End of Villain Turn:
La Capitan: deals O-X net 3 projectile damage [12] ( Reactive Plating can deal backlash damage to La Capitan or to another target. Dealing Reactive Plating damage to Mable [4]
Trueshot: Deals Haka projectile damage [8]
Siege-Breaker: Siege-Breaker attempts to deal damage, but Visionary uses Wrest the Mind to deal 4 damage eage to Mable and Trueshot, killing both. Backlash damage from Wrest the Mind is converted to Fire (via Twist the Ether) and is negated by the Oxygen Leak.
Mable: Dead!
Captain's Orders: Siege-Breaker attempts to deal Visionary 5 melee, but is redirected to La Capitan [54] via Wrest the Mind. Again, no backlash due to Twist the Ether/Oxygen Leak shenanigans.
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La Capitan [54]
In Play: Siege-Breaker [2] Captain's Orders
Trash: Plunder; Walk The Plank! (x2); La Paradoja Magnifica, Chip; L'Epeiste; Final Breath; Battle Forged, The Amazing Mable, Trueshot
Additional Effects:
SV: Destroy 1 Hero Ongoing/Equipment card. If 3+ cards under La Capitan, she flips.
EV: Deal highest hp hero target H-1 projectile.
[Edited for one instance of Reactive Plating against La Capitan]
I'll assume you want that Reactive Plating damage to go against La Capitan and adjust her damage totals briefly.
Captain's Orders only hits Hero Targets.
[Edit–Reactive Plating hitting Trueshot [4], not La Capitan!]
So my second Reactive hit can help take out Trueshot? Cool, let's do that. Is there any reason, if we're planning to kill off Siege-Breaker, not to deal it some kind of damage that's not reduced while dealing Visionary fire?
La Capitan should only have one card underneath her, which would be Recharge Mode. Toolbox wasn't destroyed by her last round, as she doesn't flip until her end of turn phase, thus skipping the front side start of turn.
Trueshot is at 6, Siegebreaker at 2 after the environment damage. Omni if you can hit trueshot that would be great, drop her to 4 for cptns orders to be able to kill her.
Then Villainous Weaponry is played, then Mable enters play.
La Capitan shoots Omni, he gets retaliation, (hit Mable Please[4])
Trueshot goes, shoots her damage (at+1) to someone.
Siege Breaker goes next and hits Mable for 4 damage[dead] turn WtM damage to fire again, then 4 damage to Trueshot[dead] fire thing again.
Then Captains orders has Siege Breaker attack, have him hit La Capitan for 5 I believe, the fire thing again.
I think this whould work out.
Next turn we kill Oxygen leak and I'll kill Siegebreaker.
Sounds good, phantaskippy.
If we don't fix the Oxygen Leak before the start of the environment turn, Siege-Breaker will be killed by the Oxygen Leak anyway. But I think we'd rather destroy Oxygen Leak first, if it's possible.
If we can't destroy Oxygen Leak before the environment turn, maybe we can arrange for Oxygen Leak to destroy the Villainous Weaponry? That would mean 1 less damage to us: have the Leak hit hero targets, then the Weaponry, then the villain targets.
In this scenario, you slightly miscalculated. If Siege-Breaker hits TrueShot for 4, that won't kill her–she'd have 2 hp left. You'd need the Captain's Orders to do take her out, which is how I had it calculated in the Villain turn.
I think the numbers that I listed in the Villain turn are probably the best you can do…
Omni gets 2 retaliations, if he hits trueshot first, then Mable they would both be at four when Siege Breaker goes.
Okay, I see what you're talking about--I had applied that second Reactive Plating against La Capitan, rather than Trueshot.
Editing now!
Bunker
HP: 12
Hand: Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode (2), Heavy Plating, Gatling Gun, Flak Cannon(2), Ammo Drop, Recharge Mode, External Combustion
In play: Maintenance Unit (Equipment)
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Upgrade Mode, Ammo Drop
Use a power: UPGRADING
Draw a card: Omni Cannon
End of hero turn:
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HP: 12
Hand: Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode, Heavy Plating, Gatling Gun, Flak Cannon(2), External Combustion, Recharge Mode, Omni Cannon
In play: Maintenance Unit (Equipment), Recharge Mode, Ammo Drop
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade
Additional effects:
Draw a card whenever a villian card is destroyed.
I was planning to stay in Upgrade mode one full turn yet, the turn after that I'll have Omni out and either Flak or Heavy Plating and finally be helping you guys. I feel like I'm taking way too long to get going. Also, I'd prefer not to give up any equipment these next couple turns if I don't need to, but you guys are more experianced at this so let me know if it's in the best interest for me to discard. If I don't lose Upgrade Mode, in 2 turns I can play out more cards with it and ALSO switch to Turret Mode, effectively getting two full turns out of that one turn.
When La Capitan flips from having enough cards under her, where do those cards go? The original heroes trash?
They stay under her. On her "Split across Time" side, she returns cards under her to the original trash instead of taking damage.
OK, i kinda worded my question wrong. When she's done with them, they do go to the original trash though. Good, that's what I wanted to know.
Truth be told, brother? If I were you–I'd play Flak Cannon and Turret Mode next round. You could do Flak Cannon and Maintainence Unit every round, keeping your HP while putting out a solid 4 damage. Gatling Gun isn't worth another turn of no damage.
You think Flak would be the better move over Omni? With Omni i'd eventually run out of cards, in theory, but Ammo Drop will be supplying some as well.
I was thinking next turn: Omni and Heavy Plating
Round after that: Flak Cannon, and Turret, the i'd get my 2 power uses.Maintenace if i needed it, otherwise, Omni and Flak. 6+1 omni and 3+1 from flak.
At that point, i'd have another 3 cards again in my had so Omni would have another full blast, again paired with Flak unless I needed the healing; repeat....
Haka
HP: 8
Hand: Dominion, Haka of Shielding, Rampage, Ta Moko, Haka of Battlex2, Savage Mana, Mere
In Play: Taiaha, Dominion
Trash: Haka of Restoration, Punish the Weak, Gound Pound, Elbow Smash
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Ta Moko
Use a power: Taiaha to La Capitan (51) and Villainous Weaponry
Draw a card: Haka of Shielding
End of hero turn:
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HP: 8
Hand: Dominion, Haka of Shieldingx2, Rampage, Haka of Battlex2, Savage Mana, Mere
In Play: Taiaha, Dominion, Ta Moko
Trash: Haka of Restoration, Punish the Weak, Gound Pound, Elbow Smash
Additional effects: Reduce damage to Haka by 1
Sorry, folks, I forgot to include the Oxygen Leak damage last round. So I’m actually at 10 HP. (I updated my last turn; I was at 13HP then.) I’m deliberately not taking out the Villainous Weaponry, so that the Oxygen Leak can destroy it.
Mr. Fixer
HP: 10
Hand: Bloody Knuckles, Meditation (x2), Charge, Tire Iron, Hoist Chain, Dual Crowbars, Jack Handle, Tool Box
In play:
Trash: Grease Monkey Fist, Salvage Yard, Overdrive
Additional effects:
[hr]
Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Meditation. Take Grease Monkey Fist from my trash and put it into play.
Use a power: Strike. Deal 2 psychic damage to La Capitan (49).
Draw a card: Bloody Knuckles
End of hero turn:
[hr]
HP: 10
Hand: Bloody Knuckles (x2), Meditation, Charge, Tire Iron, Hoist Chain, Dual Crowbars, Jack Handle, Tool Box
In play: Grease Monkey Fist (Ongoing, Style)
Trash: Salvage Yard, Overdrive, Meditation
Additional effects:
Let's say you throw down Omnicannon this coming turn, firing it next, You'd deal what, 7 damage? Plus whatever other power you used? For the sake of argument, let's say that you'd use Maintenence Unit, to regain HP. Overall, 7 damage and 2 hp.
If you play Flak/Turret Mode this next turn, you can use Flak Cannon that round for 4 and fire it again the following round for another 4, you're doing 8 damage and gaining 4 hp.
Plus, by the point that you'd get Omnicannon down and ready to fire, La Capitan will be flipped again, meaning that your damage isn't worth much. At this point, damage now > damage later.
It depends how long you think the game will last. If it only lasts 1 more round, then this is wasted; otherwise, what you wrote already does more damage after 2 rounds than PlatinumWarlock's suggestion, although you miss the healing.
You might consider skipping the Heavy Plating with your Maintenance Unit. The Gatling Gun is another good card, which is more cost-effective in Turret Mode than the Omnicannon (3 damage for 1 card instead of 7 damage for 3 cards). It has the advantage of not requiring a power use, though of course it does compete for cards with the Omni-Cannon.
If you are going straight to Turret Mode, it might have been better to play Flak Cannon this turn, use its power this turn, then go into Turret next turn and use its power again.
Gatling Gun vs. Omni is in favor of Gatling this game. Your +1 out with no reduction by the enemy means lots of 2 damage for 1 card is better than one shot, I'd drop Gatling/plating next round, then flak/turret next. That gives you 2 and 4 damage, and 2 healing, every round after gets you 3 and 4 damage with 2 healing as long as cards hold up. That way you start doing damage right when mine drops off.
Omni and Gatling do compete, and as dpt mentioned the lack of needing a power to use it really makes it better. Omni is great when you have tons of cards to store up each turn with flak and grenade out, but whit this game you want the healing and as much benefit from the +1 as possible
Crazy plan #2:
Omni, if you can heal Siege Breaker to 4hp, he'll survive the environment turn, we leave Oxygen leak alive.
I put L'Epieste on top, so he goes into play, I kill Siege Breaker after Captains orders. Next round, Omni timeshifts me for Mass Levitation, I play WtM on L'Epieste and use Mass Levitation for my power.
L'Epieste deals a ton of damage with Bunker at 5 cards by then, me at 3, Omni will have a bunch out and Fixer and Haka will have some.
There is something else to consider. I am not saying it is better just pointing out another option.
Omni-Cannon can hold the charge. This means you can charge it and not fire it, wait for a nasty crew member to come out, and take it out in one turn. While you are waiting, you can still hit with Flak Cannon and heal.
This was my original idea before I got the Omni Cannon. I thought it was the better card, but now I see in this case it isn't. If Anyone can allow me to play a card not on my turn, i'd play Gattling Gun right away, skip the Plating and do Flak and Turret next round.
Either way, I may skip the plating anyway. I could throw out External Combustion, but I was saving that in case she got a lot of minions out again. (3 Fire Damage to all non-hero targets; I take 2)
Either way, I may skip the plating anyway. I could throw out External Combustion, but I was saving that in case she got a lot of minions out again. (3 Fire Damage to all non-hero targets; I take 2)
If Oxygen leak is out it will all be zero.
Another thing to consider is that if you stay in Upgrade Mode (or No-Mode), you will still draw cards, and, hopefully, pick up Grenade Launcher. External Combustion and Gatling Gun will allow you to deal damage in Upgrade Mode, while Omni-Cannon will allow you to save the damage until you leave Upgrade Mode.
Hmmm...I thought this game was full of obvious decisions.
Very good point, both Omni and Gatling can deal damage from turns in upgrade mode.
Can you give an approximate tracking of how much HP you (and the others) will have in this scheme?
We'd all take one more round of Oxygen leak, then Mass levitation would lower its damage by three. L'Epieste would not get an attack before he was Taken over, and Siege Breaker would die without anyone taking any. So ideally none. After I took him over it would depend on what cards the villain deck played.
Crazy plan #2 sounds like fun :D
Omnitron-X
HP: 12
Hand: Temporal Shielding, Disruptive Flechettes, Rocket Punch, Self Sabotage, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Electro-Deployment Unit, Rocket Punch, Innervation Ray, Elemental Exochassis, Technological Advancement, Focused Plasma Cannon
In Play: Ablative Coating, Reactive Plating Subroutine, Electro-Deployment Unit, Innervation Ray
Trash: Reset
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn: EDU lets me play another EDU which lets me pay me second Innervation Ray.
Two Innervation Rays let me heal The Visionary, Siege-Breaker and Haka for 2HP each.
Play a card: Focused Plasma Cannon
Use a power: Timeshift... Bunker? Would Bunker want a Timeshift? Would anyone else?
Draw a card: Technological Advancement
End of hero turn:
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HP: 12
Hand: Temporal Shielding, Disruptive Flechettes, Rocket Punch, Self Sabotage, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Rocket Punch, Elemental Exochassis, Technological Advancement x2
In Play: Ablative Coating, Reactive Plating Subroutine, Electro-Deployment Unit x2, Innervation Ray x2, Focused Plasma Cannon
Trash: Reset
Additional effects:
If you Timeshift on me, there's a 2/27 chance of getting a Grease Gun. I believe there's a 10/27 chance of a card I would discard rather than put into play, from other Styles. Bunker might appreciate it more, not sure; for Bunker, a Mode card would be a miss, but there are fewer of those.
We also need to decide which card to offer up for destruction. I'd kind of like to keep my Style card, to give me a chance to finally get set up.
Dark Visionary
HP: 6
Hand: Suggestion, Wrest the Mind
In Play: Mental Divergence, Twist the Ether (Dark Visionary), Wrest the Mind (Seige Breaker)
Trash: Decoy Projection, Demoralization, Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence, Mind Spike
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Suggestion, put L'Epieste on top of the villain deck, and La Paradoja Magnifica on the bottom
Use a power: Mental Divergence to put Mass Levitation on top of my deck
Draw a card: I politely decline this action.
End of hero turn:
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HP: 6
Hand: Wrest the Mind
In Play: Mental Divergence, Twist the Ether (Dark Visionary), Wrest the Mind (Siegebreaker)
Trash: Decoy Projection, Demoralization, Mass Levitation, Mental Divergence, Mind Spike, Suggestion
Additional effects:
Dpt, do you have a good chance of getting something we don't need we could destroy? Or maybe Omni-X does? If need me, I could give up my Upgrade Mode, and end up Turretting with less out
Wagner Mars Base
Start of Environment Turn: Oxygen Leak deals 3 Toxic damage to everyone. Notable results from this are as follows:
Heroes: Bunker [9]; Haka [8] (only takes 2 due to Ta Moko); Fixer [8]; O-X [11] (only 1 damage, thanks to Ablative Coating--please choose a target for 2 points of backlash); Visionary [4]
Environment: Villainous Weaponry dies.
Villains: La Capitan [47]. Siege-Breaker [1] (only takes 3 due to DR)
Environment: Villainous Weaponry dies.
Play a Card: Villainous Weaponry #2 enters play
End of Environment Turn: 1 player may discard 1 card to destroy either Oxygen Leak; it will deal damage (4) to all targets at the Start of next Environment turn, if you do not. (Consensus on this was no, I think, due to Mass Levitation shenanigans? Let me know either way.
You can Timeshift me if no one else wants it. Also, Dominion can go with no problem (drew Vitality Surge from Villainous Weaponry dying)
Heck I can lose mental divergence if needed, just take the timeshift Bunker.
If I keep it it has value to destroy Captains orders or bring back Demoralization or anyone's ongoings that get destroyed, but even without it we'll be fine.
Not such a great chance of getting something destroyable from me. Most of my Tools I would want to keep around. Omni-X might be willing to give up one of the Electro-Deployment Units. Edit: I had forgotten Mental Divergence served its main purpose already. I think it makes sense to Timeshift on Bunker.
Bunker gets the Timeshift, and I guess backlash on La Capitan.
Okay--as soon as Bunker flips his card, I'll post the Villain turn.
Turret Mode… I have to put it in the trash. I don't have attack cards out yet.
Also, i took full damage from the environment. I'm in Upgrade mode, not Recharge Mode
Okay, spiffy. Villain turn coming right up!
I think I'm at 7HP before the villain turn? Also, is the concensus to destroy Dominion or Mental Divergence? I'd be inclined to get rid of Dominion first, just in case of eventualities.
La Capitan:
La Capitan [45]
In Play: Siege-Breaker [1]; Captain's Orders
Trash: Plunder, Walk The Plank (x2), Chip Final Breath; L'Epeiste, Final Breath, Battle Forged, The Amazing MAble
Additional Effects:
* SV: Destroy a Hero Ongoing/Equipment Card. If there are 3+ cards beneath La Capitan, flip her.
*EV: Deal Hero target with highest hp H-1 Projectile damage.
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Start of Villain Turn: Flip? No. La Capitan destroys one Ongoing/Equipment card. (Currently Dominion--2 cards of 3 necessary to flip [Recharge Mode, Dominion])
Play a Card: L'Epeiste [7].
End of Villain Turn:
La Capitan: deals O-X (I'm assuming you're choosing him, rather than Bunker) net 3 projectile damage [8] ( Reactive Plating can deal backlash damage to La Capitan or another target. Unless told otherwise, I'm going to assume this is going against La Capitan for 2 [43]
Siege-Breaker: Siege-Breaker attempts to deal damage, but Visionary uses Wrest the Mind to deal 4 damage twice. Again, I'm assuming that these are going against La Capitan [35]. Backlash damage from Wrest the Mind is converted to Fire (via Twist the Ether) and is negated by the Oxygen Leak.
Captain's Orders: Siege-Breaker attempts to deal Visionary 5 melee, but is redirected (again, assuming to La Capitan [30]) via Wrest the Mind. Again, no backlash for Visionary,due to Twist the Ether/Oxygen Leak shenanigans, though Siege-Breaker dies.
L'Epeiste: Deals damage at SV.
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La Capitan [30]
In Play: Siege-Breaker [1] Captain's Orders; L'Epeiste [7]
Trash: Plunder; Walk The Plank! (x2); La Paradoja Magnifica, Chip; L'Epeiste; Final Breath; Battle Forged, The Amazing Mable, Trueshot, Siege-Breaker
Additional Effects:
SV: Destroy 1 Hero Ongoing/Equipment card. If 3+ cards under La Capitan, she flips.
EV: Deal highest hp hero target H-1 projectile.
I think Visionary was going to kill off Siege-Breaker after the Captain's Orders. (Bunker, you may draw a card for that.)
I think ideally we will leave the Villainous Weaponry with exactly 1HP, so that Oxygen Leak only hits us for 1 (after levitating) but hits Maria Helena for 2.
Oh, and, sweet!
When you did the Envorinment turn you had me down to 12 after the Oxy Leak, but I was at 12 last turn. I believe I should now be at 9.
I want to play External Combustion (All Enemies take 3 fire damage).
I hesitate due to this statement: "I think ideally we will leave the Villainous Weaponry with exactly 1HP, so that Oxygen Leak only hits us for 1 (after levitating) but hits Maria Helena for 2."
Should I do it?
Fixed Bunker's damage and killing off Siege-Breaker.
Oh, and External Combusion won't do anything--Oxygen Leak will reduce your damage to 0. Play something else.
Bunker
HP: 9
Hand: Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode, Heavy Plating, Gatling Gun, Flak Cannon(2), Recharge Mode, External Combustion, Ammo Drop (for Siege Breaker dying)
In play: Maintenance Unit (Equipment),Upgrade Mode, Ammo Drop
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade, Turret Mode
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Gatling Gun, Flak Cannon
Use a power: UPGRADING
Draw a card: Grenadge Launcher
End of hero turn: Discard Ammo Drop to feed Gatling Gun
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HP: 9
Hand: Turret Mode, Upgrade Mode, Heavy Plating, Flak Cannon, External Combustion, Recharge Mode, Omni Cannon, Grenade Launcher
In play: Maintenance Unit (Equipment), Recharge Mode, Ammo Drop, Gatling Gun, Flak Cannon
Trash: Adhesive Foam Grenade, Turret Mode, Ammo Drop
Additional effects:
Draw a card whenever a villian card is destroyed.
(Finally going to be doing damage next round. Hopefully lots of it. I can play one card before Turret comes out. At this point i'm thinking Grendade Launcher over Plating. (I'll just have to use one of my powers to heal.)
Haka
HP: 8
Hand: Dominion, Haka of Shieldingx2, Rampage, Haka of Battlex2, Savage Mana, Mere, Vitality Surge
In Play: Taiaha, Ta Moko
Trash: Haka of Restoration, Punish the Weak, Gound Pound, Elbow Smash, Dominion
Additional effects: Reduce damage to Haka by 1
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Haka of Battle, draw Taiaha and Haka of Restoration, discard 8 cards to increase next damage by 8
Use a power: Taiaha to La Capitan (19) and L'Epieste (4)
Draw a card: Ta Moko
End of hero turn:
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HP: 8
Hand: Rampage, Haka of Battlex2,
In Play: Taiaha, Dominion, Ta Moko
Trash: Haka of Restoration, Punish the Weak, Gound Pound, Elbow Smash, Savage Mana, Mere, Dominion, Haka of Shieldingx2, Vitality Surge, Haka of Battle
Additional effects: Reduce damage to Haka by 1
(On a completely unrelated note Cryo Bot just killed The Dreamer. I thought I was doing pretty good... She had just flipped, but then pulled out one shots to hit all heroes. Now I know not to use Unity, or at least Cryo Bot vs The Dreamer...)
I’ll play Dual Crowbars and hit La Capitan and Villainous Weaponry for 3 sonic damage each. Draw is Pipe Wrench. Will update with full turn later.
Keep it down up there!!
Mr. Fixer
HP: 7
Hand: Bloody Knuckles (x2), Meditation, Charge, Tire Iron, Hoist Chain, Dual Crowbars, Jack Handle, Tool Box
In play: Grease Monkey Fist (Ongoing, Style)
Trash: Salvage Yard, Overdrive, Meditation
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn:
Play a card: Dual Crowbars
Use a power: Strike. Deal 3 damage to La Capitan (16) and Villainous Weaponry (2).
Draw a card: Pipe Wrench
End of hero turn:
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HP: 7
Hand: Bloody Knuckles (x2), Meditation, Charge, Tire Iron, Hoist Chain, Jack Handle, Tool Box
In play: Grease Monkey Fist (Ongoing, Style), Dual Crowbars (Equipment, Tool)
Trash: Salvage Yard, Overdrive, Meditation
Additional effects:
Omnitron-X
HP: 8
Hand: Temporal Shielding, Disruptive Flechettes, Rocket Punch, Self Sabotage, Gaussian Coil Blaster, Rocket Punch, Elemental Exochassis, Technological Advancement x2
In Play: Ablative Coating, Reactive Plating Subroutine, Electro-Deployment Unit x2, Innervation Ray x2, Focused Plasma Cannon
Trash: Reset
Additional effects:
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Start of hero turn: EDUs let me play Gaussian Coil Blaster and Technological Advancement, which brings out the second Focused Plasma Cannon. I can't draw a card, because I don't have my cards with me, but I don't think It will matter...
Two Innervation Rays let me heal The Visionary, Fixer and me for 2HP each.
Focused Plasma Cannons and Gaussian Coil Blaster hit La Cap for a total of 5 damage [11].
Play a card: Self-Sabotage - destroy seven components to deal fourteen damage to La Capitan [0].
VICTORY! :D
Ugh, I sucked at that one. I probably should have used a mode starting with the very first turn. Seriously, my very next turn i was setup to do some good damage. In all the offline games I've played it's always taken us a lot longer. I thought I had a lot more rounds to get setup. The only offline game I've played in where we did mega damage was when I was Tachyon and Argent Adapt kept letting me fish the "Do x damage where x = the number of Burst cards in your trash" out of my trash. Used that a lot.
Oh, and the very first game I played as the Wraith and did a similiar move where I destroyed all my equipment to kill the villian.
Congrats to the rest of you though. :)
Yeah, it is rough being bunker vs. a villain with that much card destruction. Bunker really doesn't need to be slowed down any more than he naturally is.
Omni, great game, good you got to finish it after the number of cards you sacrificed, the tanking, and all the times you kept me alive.
Thanks for running the game Platinum Warlock, this was a nasty one to run.
Super fun game, everyone. Thanks for playing and running. It was a little nail-biting wondering if Visionary would stay alive long enough to use her Wrest the Mind. That combo with Oxygen Leak was awesome.
Grim88, I wouldn't beat yourself up too much, sometimes your hero is just going to get shut down. It's true, once the heroes get rolling, the game can end pretty quickly, and it doesn't always make sense to aim for the very best setup.
I'm calling dibs on running the next one, I'll put it up in a bit.
OK, So I randomed and got Gloomweaver vs. a hero team that includes Fanatic and Argent Adept. . .
I can reroll the villain, we can just stomp Gloomy ridiculously, or we could try a home ruled Gloomweaver that wouldn't allow Adept and Fanatic to crush him mercilessly.
Anyone have a preference?
I'm up for a home-ruled Gloomweaver. Does anybody have a good set of home rules they like? Otherwise, there were several posted in the forums that looked interesting.
I've played a couple times with one I made where the relics are indestructible, and you start with zombies in the trash and H-2 cultists in play, it's rather nasty but would stop Adept and Fanatic from destroying relics before he flips, and the relics just stay in play and make him rather tough. The start is tough with cultists in play, they can really put some hurt to you.
I'm fine with whatever. Gloomweaver is one of the few villian's I've defeated.
I'll take whatever non-Rook City hero no one else wants. I've played with most of them only once, a few twice.
Very awesome game, guys.
I've never seen Visionary click on all cylinders like that before, and I was sure that you guys were going down after round 3. Pulling out a win like that is really cool!