Sentinel Tactics league in Indianapolis

Next MEETINGs: 

• Sat, May 7, 10am
• CANCELED Sat, May 28, 10am
• Sat, July 9, 10am
• Sat, August 20, 10am

Take the poll to let us know you're interested and when you'd be available:

• (For May-Aug 2016) http://doodle.com/poll/5gtfcee9dbise328

We meet at City Market

BRING YOUR COPY OF THE GAME. I'd rather have too many than not enough.

Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rS3MH6bRVsU_2KL80f6kqUxyj78UNen45gPo_C2Mc-o/edit?usp=sharing

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Is anyone interested in forming a Sentinel Tactics league in Indianapolis?

The league would hold unofficial tournaments and use an ongoing ranking system.

I'm thinking that we would hold 3 on 3 skirmishes and that we would have a single person control all three characters. The reason that we'd have just one person control all of the characters for a side is mostly for practical purposes -- I think it unlikely that we'll have enough interest to form enough teams for a league.

I think the games would need to be self-judged. We'd have to come up with some way to settle disputes, if the rules and Spiff's FAQ were not enough. Perhaps a coin toss.

If there's at least half a dozen people who express interest, I'll move on to determining when and where we'll play and how we'll do rankings. If interested, please respond and please also note how often you think you might like to play. I'm thinking once a month would be good.

You could have each game require three participants: Two players and one judge. The three positions could rotate, so you get in three games and each person plays two and judges one. 

I'd be game, at least for the spring and summer. 

I'm up for it, as long as I can make the times and locations.

I'd definitely be interested, and I might be able to recruit a couple others.

I envision meeting on a Saturday, starting late morning and going to late afternoon. 

Players would be matched at random at first and by ranking later on. We'd simply play as many games as we have time for. We'd have to figure out what map to play on.

Ideally, we'd find a place with plenty of tables and comfortable chairs, good lighting, free parking, and ready access to food and drink where we could play without being disturbed by others or disturbing others. For myself, I'd also like to be able to bike there from downtown.

Best place I can think of is the Lockerbie Pub, where we used to meet for Sentinels. It only scores moderately well on some of those criteria. It opens at 11am.

How about Sat May 16th, Lockerbie Pub at 11am?

Count me in. I'll bring my copy of Tactics.

I could not do the 16th.  That is my weekend with my son, but I could do the Saturday before or the Saturday after.

OK. Who else can/cannot make Sat May 23rd?

23rd is good for me.  I think, in general, a first or fourth Saturday would do well for me.  It also puts me close to my friends so I can meet him for Saturday night gaming.  I'll just have to figure out how this will affect Race Day for me.

I could make the 16th, but I'll have to see about the 23rd, I'm not sure.

Welcome to the forums!

 Thanks! I'm really hoping that I can come down for these.

I can do either the 23rd or the 16th. 

Executive decision time. We're going to meet on May 23rd at Lockerbie Pub at 11am. Everybody who's got a game, please bring it. I'd rather have more than we need than fewer.

Expected attendees at this point:

Me, Bharyn (and friends?), TheJayMan, Metlarcturus, Cropcircles (maybe)

The more the merrier. Please give a shout if you're planning to join us.

Andy, sounds like fun. I am free the 23rd, and will be there.

Also, kudos at getting me to post in the forum!

Whoa! Look at that stranger!

Yay!

When we meet, what board should we use for our matches?

I'm thinking it would be fun if we settled on a particular configuration that all matches that day used, though I'm open to doing it differently.

I figure we'll change the board we use for each meetup.

If we want to simply assign someone the task of coming up with an arrangement of tiles for a particular meetup, I don't mind having the responsibility, but am also happy to defer to others.

Do we want to come up with a custom arrangement or use a set up from the comic books?

Doesn't matter to me. I suppose a setup from the comic book has the advantage that we can easily refer to it when doing our setup.

It makes sense for everyone to use the same map each time, but I thought it would be neat to have it as part of the drafting process. Before bans and drafts, players could take turns setting hexes into a predefined map shape. 

But going with "everyone plays the same map," maybe players could each submit a map design, then have the group choose one randomly each session. 

Or have everyone involved in building one map, then replicate it for all matches? (I'm not going to be there - just throwing out thoughts for consideration, so feel free to ignore. )

Given that the official tournaments are leaning towards less cover, if we use a comic book map, I would suggest that we us a map with minimal cover.

I don't think we can count on what we've seen in previous tournaments necessarilly being what we see in future tournaments.

This sounds fun. Perhaps each team places a tile until one person chooses not to place a tile, then the other team can either place one more tile or stop. We'd have to figure out how to determine who places first and who chooses which tile to start on in what order.

Another idea: We take turns designing a map for the day. Keep a record of who has designed maps most often. Whoever's done it the least gets to design today's map. For ties, roll dice! 

I'd like to devise a text-based way to record what map we're using. How about:

* All tiles are oriented so there is a flat edge facing north.

* The tiles will be described in a series of rows. Each tile will have a position (1, 2, 3, etc representing the order, left to right, in the row), an identifier (ME3, IP6, etc. where ME is Megalopolis, IP is Insula Primalis, and the number identifies which tile of that set is being used), and an orientation (A-F, where A means the arrow for the tile is pointing north, B means north east, C means south east, D means south, E means south west, and F means north west).

* Position 1 of the second row of tiles will be the tile that is between positions 1 and 2 of the first row of tiles. Position 1 of the third row of tiles will be due south of position 1 of the first row of tiles.

* If there is no tile in a position, use NONE

For example, an all insula primalis board arranged as seven tiles forming a circle might be:

Row1: 1NONE, 2IP7A, 3IP4C; Row2: 1IP3F,2IP5A,3IP2D; Row3: 1NONE, 1IP8E, 2IP1B

(NOTE: I don't have the actual tiles in front of me, so don't know what this map would actually look like)

Not entirely sure how useful this would be. I was thinking it would be interesting for stats purposes to see what kinds of results we get on different maps, but given the difficulty in envisioning what these maps look like, I'm not sure how useful it would actually be.

I like this idea, but I feel like there should be a minimum map size.  The alternative would be a possibility that a map could end up being 1 or two tiles.  I don't think it is necessary for maps to be huge, but I think at least a 4 tile minimum.

I like the idea of a text-based map notation, but I'd write it a little differently. I like "Pr" for Insula Primalis and "Me" for Megalopolis, and a two letter abbreviation for the facing. So your theoretical map would look like this:

Row1: - -  Pr7No Pr4Se

Row2: Pr3Nw Pr5No Pr2So

Row3: - -  Pr8Sw Pr1Ne

Also, while a one-tile map would be an interesting strategic conundrum, I agree with Bharryn that a minimum map size is a good idea. 

New notation: Like

Minimum map: Not sure .... I mean, have you tried playing on a one tile map? Maybe it's boring, but ... maybe it's interesting? It will certainly inform which characters are chosen. Imagine getting out Champion bot on a one tile map. Imagine if that tile is the volcano and you have Absolute Zero's ability to ignore hazard spaces.

As for how to determine starting tiles, current tournament rules are 1st ban & choose starting locations <OR> 1st draft & 1st move. I think we should expand/alter the definition of 'choose starting location' to mean that you get to chose _BOTH_ of the tiles that the teams start on, as well as placing the first tile.

Not sure these are better, but I was wondering if there were ASCII characters we could use for the six facings that LOOK like those six facings. Here's the best I came up with. If you can't tell which is which, they fail:

Row1: - -  Pr7/\ Pr4\.

Row2: Pr3^\ Pr5/\ Pr2\/

Row3: - -  Pr8./ Pr1/^

Nah. Don't think I like those better

I know it is a lot of numbers, but we could aslso use notation by the number pad.

789

456

123

so it woud look like:

1. Me1-1   2. Ip3-7    3. Ip7-9

4. none     5. Me5-2  6. Ip6-3

etc...

Please let me know if you'd prefer to play at Lockerbie Pub, as we've currently planned, or in the Factulty/Staff lounge of my building (Informatics/IT - ICTC) on the IUPUI campus (SW corner of West & Michigan St.).

Advantages of Lockerbie: Free parking. You can buy food and drink. You all can be there and play whether I'm there or not. I don't have to reserve the space.

Advantages of of the Faculty/Staff loung of my building at IUPUI: Good lighting. Quiet. Good tables and chairs. Won't be sharing the space with anyone. You won't be _expected_ to buy any food/drink.

Parking on the IUPUI campus costs money and may be a bit of a hike. I actually don't know much about where you can park w/out a permit. Looking at http://www.parking.iupui.edu/Visitors/VisitorHome.aspx, it looks like there are no meters anywhere near the IT, which is unfortunate as the meter rate is $0.75/hour, while the garages are $4 for the first hour. Visitors can apparently park in the garage on the north side of Michigan St. closest to the IT/ICTC building. I think you might also be able to find some free street parking along Indiana Ave.

EDIT: There is a special rate of $6 listed for the Law School, which has parking in an underground garage and is located due south of the IT/ICTC building. Not sure if that is per hour or per day or what.

I'm fine with either location.  Unless they removed them since I graduated, there are metered spaces in front of the Law School.

Indeed. Just checked. Four metered spaces next to ICTC. Six spaces next to the Law school. Eleven more spaces on the far side of the lot next to ICTC. Hopefully there won't be many other people using them on a Saturday. People would have to deal with bringing a bunch of change and worrying about feeding the meter.

The same is probably true of Lockerbie.  The meters are not free on Saturdays anymore.

Are you saying you think it costs money to park at Lockerbie Pub? It does not. They have a modest-sized parking lot. Just in case, please note that I'm talking about the pub at the corner of College and Michigan, not the apartments near the IUPUI campus.

I''d cast my vote for the pub, though I'd be fine with either location. Just as long as you think the noise level and table space wouldn't keep us from playing.

I may come as well. Either place is fine for me, I also have a parking pass for IUPUI since my brother is a student there.

I did not know that.  I learned something today

Friendly reminder that we're meeting next Sat. I will put logistics in the first post.

Spectacular! I'm looking forward to trying some different teams, maybe testing some characters that don't see regular play. 

Final reminder. Sat 11am. Details in 1st post.

Lockerbie pub is closed, so we have moved a few blocks West to the Rathskellar. Join us! 

Good meetup! More later when I have some time.

I've created a Google spreadsheet to record results of games and calculate both a leaderboard (currently by player record, but eventually by player ranking) and a ranking of which characters are chosen most often during ban/draft.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rS3MH6bRVsU_2KL80f6kqUxyj78UNen45gPo_C2Mc-o/edit?usp=sharing

Opinions on what should/shouldn't be recorded for each game? Shown on the leaderboard? Let me know. 

We decided for our next meet up that we would take polls of which Saturdays people are available, so for now I'll be sending out a poll covering about three months at a time.

PLEASE FILL OUT this poll so I know when to schedule the next meetup: http://doodle.com/pekdb8d5icszgdhu

We want to gather our league rules that differ from official tournaments and then make a handy reference guide of them.

Rules:

• The board - The player that chooses to ban first gets to place a tile first. Players take turns placing contiguous tiles. After one player decides to stop placing tiles, the other player may place one tile. There must be at least four tiles.
• Starting locations - The player that drafts first chooses which two tiles will be used for starting locations. There must be at least one other tile between these two tiles. The other player chooses which of the two tiles their characters will start and places those characters anywhere on that tile. The other player than places their characters anywhere on their own starting tile.
• Choosing which player gets to decide whether to ban first or draft first - Instead of a coin flip, each player rolls a die. High roll gets the choice. If there's a tie, roll again.

Resulting order of ban/draft/starting locations:

• Roll off to determine 1st ban/1st tile vs 1st draft/1st move
• Place tiles
• Ban and Draft
• Choose starting tiles
• Hand out turn tokens
• Choose hidden starting powers and place characters
• Reveal power cards
• Roll movement
• Turn 1

These are all open to discussion. In particular we're not sure what the best way to determine starting locations is and when that should occur in the order above.

(NOTE: Edited to change when movement is rolled, per Spiff's Tactics FAQ)

We had five in attendance for our first meetup. Having a small group was actually quite nice, as we could come to consensus pretty easily about such things as figuring out who places characters first, or what to do about the fact that the Pub we planned to play in was closed.

Yup, that's right, it's advertised hours weren't very accurate. We solved the problem by walking a couple of blocks to The Rathskellar and then playing in their beer garden. Not an ideal spot (loud, crowded, wind occassionally blowing cards, worrying about chits falling through the slats of the tables, unrelenting sun), but it was actually pretty great overall. When not distracting, the music and crowds were fun. I enjoyed the sunshine and great temps. The wind was only rarely a problem. The beer was great.

Still, we decided to try the City Market for our next meetup. It has the potential to be fantastic. We're hoping there will be lots of free tables on a Saturday afternoon. It's indoor. There's lots of great food options. Parking will cost money and might on some dates be problematic. I doubt there's any alcohol to be purchased, though I'm not sure I care. We'll see. 

Anyway, a small group was nice. Having an odd number was, I imagine, annoying for those who had to wait to play. I got lucky and didn't have that occur, though I think that the occassional break might be welcome, and the person who had to sit out the first game took advantage of that to get some food.

I can't speak to the games the others played. With no spectators watching everything and the game not being recorded, it's a bit hard to get a sense of the games as a whole. I know Proletariat came out in a couple of games and I gather was effective, but I was not in either of those games. I got to see Visionary (combined with Legacy) cause me a great deal of trouble in my first game 1-3 loss. I had chosen Operative as my last pick thinking that I would pull Visionary to the other side of the board, away from Legacy's support and away from Omnitron's reach, but after I realized that Legacy could just take Visionary's place, I wasn't as keen to try that. A fizzled Fission Blast and not-so-focused Focused Blast certainly didn't help my team's cause, but I think I lost that game primarily in the ban/draft.

I was much more keen about my 13.5 min, single round, 3-0 win. Tachyon did all the things, Bunker fired all the guns, and The Operative got off a 7-die attack to get three successive incaps. It was after that game that we collectively decided to add the rule about starting tiles not being adjacent. I also really enjoyed using Blood, Sweat, and Tears in my middle game. They weren't exceptionally effective (though they did just fine, inflicting some damage and drawing fire), but it was just great to get them on the table.

With only four tiles, there is a possibility this would not be possible.  How do we want to address that?  Should placement resume until this is possible or should it be permissible to have adjacent starting tiles if it is not possible to have one intervening tile?

I played in two very tight games, and finished 1-1 on the day.  Both games were 3-2 and likely would have swung the other direction if they had continued to another turn.

In my first game, Operative, Omnitron, and Wraith squared off against my team of Beacon, Unity, and Proletariat.  Proletariat was my MVP, relying heavily on Beacon's Bolstering Team-up to get an extra action, he incapped Omnitron twice.  Omnitron may have a lot of life he does not last long when four proletariats unleash upon him. However, a beserking Operative snatched a come from behind victory for my opponent.

My second match up pitted Dawn, Ra, and Ambuscade versus my team of Beacon, Proletariat, and Operative.  I fell behind 2-0 when hack and slash managed to get off a strong attack against three proletarians.  However, I made a very strong comeback when Operative scored a double incap taking out Ambuscade and Ra in a single turn and a newly revived Proletariat stood up moved to Dawn, split and then double attacked her for a come from behind win.

Hmm … I think it's always possible actually. I don't see a way for four tiles to all be touching each other.

I played around with it, and you are correct.

Haven't seen anyone but me take the poll yet. Link is in the first post on this thread.

I've only played the game half of a time, but I'd be interested in playing more. I also now live in Indianapolis, which could make this easier! While I'm likely not the most fearsome target when it would come to tournaments, I suppose it doesn't hurt to throw in a hat.

Great! If you haven't already, please go to the first post and follow the link to let us know when you're available.

I've picked Sat, June 20th for our next meetup.

We'll be at City Market

10am sound like a good start time? (City Market opens at 8am on Saturdays)

City Market is kinda a big place. Let's look for each other on the balcony area overlooking the food stalls.

Spectacular! Are we sticking with the build-as-you-go maps, or do we want to come up with a flavor of the month? I wouldn’t mind the latter, especially if we means we can use printed 3D terrain.

Also, Blosser, we’re not really tournament caliber (yet…), but it is fun to try new things!

If someone wants to design a map, I'm happy to support trying out a flavor of the month this time.

I put my vote in for the 27th. I apologize for not responding sooner, but this is the first time in a while that I’m not incredibly busy. However, if it must be the 20th, I believe I can try to make it work.

20th was the only day that all three of the first three to respond could make it, so I think we'll leave it to 20th. Hope you can make it.

In the course of evens that transpired last night, now both the 20th and 27th are just as open for me. So I can make the 20th with no problem.

I'll submit a map for consideration!

DANGER VALLEY!

Row1:      Me2Sw Pr5No

Row2: Me4No Me8Ne Me3No

Row:        Pr6So Me1Sw


Here's a topograph!


Sure. It has interesting corridors.

Friendly reminder. Game this Sat at 10am at City Market. See first post for links.

ALSO, I encourage people to continue using the Doodle poll in the first post. If you've already filled it out, I think you can return to make updates. That will help as I figure out future dates.

My availability can be erratic, as I might be needed at my store with little prior notice, so it's a toughie to tell weeks in advance what and when works for me, but, I'm happy to try and accomodate any dates that do come up!

It's even possible I could crash this upcoming tomorrow land!

(I enjoyed that movie a lot.)

I believe it’s obvious now that I won’t make it at 10am, as it is 10am now. However, I still plan to make it within the next couple hours.

NEXT meetup will be Aug 15, 10am at City Market. (Details are also in first post).

We had a good time, though a small turnout -- three at first with TheJayMann joining us later. So, only got a total of three matches in, but still a good time. City Market turned out to be a great place to meet. Plenty of tables and quiet and food and drink for those interested.

We are hoping to get the word out at GenCon and generate some more interest. Still, even with a small group I'm having a great time with these.

I'll put a link to the stats in the first post. Dawn is the only character to have been banned or picked in every match.

Ian, GtG say that while a flyer at the booth probably wouldn't work out, one at the side room, where the actual Tactics tournament probably would. Want to create a draft?

How many? How expensive will printing be?

I've created a FB group to help spread the word about the league. Please come join it. I will continue to post announcements here as well:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/379144565607884/

I am also going to add something to Meetup.com

I likely will not attend August 15th, as that collides with Indy Table Top Saturdays (occuring the third Saturday of the month), unless it gets rescheduled (sometimes other events cause it to occur on the second or forth Saturday of the month).

Just fyi, Ian's working on a flyer we hope to hand out at Gencon to spread the word about our Aug 15th meetup.

I've also gotten a couple of RSVPs from the Indy Tabletop meetup group, which graciously allowed me to post our event.

So, I'm hopeful that we'll end up getting a few more people in attendance who might not have heard of us before.

Friendly reminder that we're still doing this thing starting at 10am. Hoping to get some new players coming off of GenCon. Who's planning to join us?

I will actually probably not be there until after noon, due to a conflict, but Ian will be there at 10am.

I was thinking I would be out of town on the 15th, but now that I look, my flight is at 2:20 PM. Maybe I could get in a game or two before my flight.

Come on down! We do timed games, so you don't have to worry about a game lasting too long.

I was pleased to welcome three new players this past Saturday to the league. Our group is still quite small, so we had just two regular games before I showed up as the sixth person, and then we decided to break from the normal plan and actually run a 3 vs 3 game. 

The volcano played a _huge_ role in that game. Blade, after being pumped up by Legacy, charged across the board to the lip of the volcano in order to one-shot Omnitron with a Fission Blast, but Omnitron stood up the next turn and dragged Blade through the lava, incapacitating him back. Ambuscade set off a stack of traps that caught both Dawn and Legacy. Dawn and Legacy had their chances for retribution, but made poor choices, in retrospect about whether or not to aim.

Updated stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rS3MH6bRVsU_2KL80f6kqUxyj78UNen45gPo_C2Mc-o/edit?usp=sharing

NEW POLL. Very important -- please put in which dates you are available for Sep through Dec: http://doodle.com/y4zyfagrb7y2b4eh

I will try to pick about one a month.

Upcoming dates chosen: 

Sat Oct 10

Sat Nov 7

Sat Dec 5

I won't be able to make the December meetup.  I will be on vacation that weekend.  Also, I just noticed that I accidentally confirmed in in the poll.  I have updated the poll.  Honestly, though, I'm not sure if I can make it any day in December, so I may just have to skip that month, no matter which day you wish to make it.

Hey, folks!

Just a reminder that we've got a meetup this coming Saturday. Please give a shout if you plan to make it. Walkups also welcome.

We had such a good time today!

There were only two of us, but with the new maps and minions figures and particulary with the playtest characters (thanks again, Russ!) we just had a really great time reading through all the characters and powers together and playing a couple of ridiculous skirmishes on Mars and in Dawn's Base.

Don't want to say anything about the new characters that I'm not supposed to share, so I'll just say that it was super fun and we both are now really, really stoked to get the official versions of the new characters. There were lots of cool abilities and really cool combinations.

No additional official stats from this meetup, as we didn't actually ban/draft, just picked characters we thought would be fun.

Hope to see folks next time. Next event is Nov 7th.

Just a friendly reminder that there's a meetup this Sat at 10am at City Market. Who's planning to be there?

I'll be able to make it! I'll be coming up from Bloomington. Looking forward to it!

How big is the City Market? Will it be obvious where to meet? I know I'll recognize Andy, at least.

EDIT: I'll be a little more than half an hour late.

Only three of us yesterday , but we had a great time.

With just three of us, we decided to focus on checking out the playtest characters rather than doing ban/draft games. Dylan had brought maps from the GenCon 2015 Tactics tournament. Bharyn had his awesome buildings. I'd brought my dice trays. We had the playtest characters that Russ printed and prepped. It was great!

It was a bit odd working out how to have three of us playing a single game. We settled on Ian controlling a side of three characters and Dylan and I on the other team with Dylan controlling two and me controlling one. Then, for our second game Ian and I switched places, so, we played two games and collectively managed four characters each. 

I'm not sure if I enjoyed it more in the game where I controlled one character or the game where I controlled three! Controlling all three characters oneself is a really great way to come up with tactics that involve multiple characters, but it's a lot to juggle at once, particularly when playing new characters, and particularly with the three I was managing.

After Ian took off, Dylan and I had time for another game. Dylan was keen to play a scenario and I couldn't resist the siren call of getting to see the Underboss minis in play, so we played the Operative scenario. I had the advantage, having played it once before, and was able to lead my thugs to victory, despite three of my Underbosses being incapacitated.

We discussed a little bit the future of the league. Obviously, interest is low, but Ian and I agreed that as long as we were enjoying getting together to play there was no reason to stop. We also talked about what we might do for Who's Yer Con. More about that in its own thread.

New poll available for Jan-Apr, 2016

http://doodle.com/poll/dn23wbfv8xqh4yx6

Friendly reminders:

• Please fill out the poll
• Meetup this coming Saturday, Dec 5th. Who's planning to be there?

Just Ian and I at the last meetup. Had a good time playtesting a scenario for one of the Minions Maps.

This 'league' has devolved into mostly Ian and I showing up and playing whatever we feel like -- scenarios lately. We keep having fun so we plan to keep doing it. Y'all are welcome to join us.

Friendly reminder: Meet up this Sat, 10am at City Market.

Who's coming?

Ian can’t make it, so if anyone else plans to attend, please let me know ASAP.

Please PM me or send email: arenson@spatzel.net

Who's in this coming weekend?

It's probably the last meetup before the tournament at Who's Yer Con and I'd love to get in some practice.

Hmm, it's tempting, but transport from Bloomington might be an issue. (I'm carless this weekend.) I'll investigate.

Ok. Please let me know! Ian can't make it.

OK, I'm canceling this. At least, I'm not going to make it. With Ian also out, there will likely be no one else there. JUST TOO BUSY this weekend.

Too bad! Confluence of bad timing here.

New poll is up. Please let us know when you can make it.

http://doodle.com/poll/5gtfcee9dbise328

Meetings set for May-Aug. Next one is Sat, May 7, 10am at City Market

I won't be able to make the one in May, but hope to make some of the other summer meetings.

Meetup this Saturday the 7th!

I'll see if I can convince the fiance to play Tactics for our last weekend in Indy. Somehow I've managed to pretty much never play any games this whole year with new people.

We're in! The two of us will be down in the morning!

We had a fun today. Just four of us. We played through the first two Omintron scenarios. I managed to always be on the losing team ...

It was definitely a groovy time! The Visionary is, naturally, like bald sliced bread, or better than.

I am happy to have lost with you.

Ian can't make this Saturday's meetup, so please RSVP today or tomorrow or I'm going to cancel it.

Turns out I have a conflict on July 9th and probably also on Aug 20th.

I think this has run its course and am inclined to simply cancel these. If anyone objects, please let me know. I'd be happy to play occassionally, but don't want to organize at this point.