https://greaterthangames.com/content/welcome-to-the-wrath-of-the-cosmos-preorder
So the pre-order event is live and we get unlockable stretch goals!
First up? 5 promo cards! Hmmm...that seems like a perfect number for Prime Warden promos! EXCITMENT!!!!
I bet the five promos are all promos for The Wraith!
And.... ordered.
Was all set to order, then saw that the FedEx shipping costs almost as much as the expansion itself. Eff that.
Also, I would rather find a way to support both GTG and my LGS now that these no longer needed to be kickstarted.
I preordered, but I am wondering if there's any chance for cheaper shipping. $15 shipping for a $20 game is pretty crazy. I'd gladly wait for USPS to deliver if it saved some $$.
You can totally buy it from your LGS. However, assuming everything gets unlocked, those mini-expansions are going to cost more than the shipping to a US address.
But if you get it later, you will have to buy the possible mini expansions seperatly and miss out on the promo cards. I had the same thoughts on the shipping cost, but if those things get unlocked it'll save you money in the long run. Just my thoughts on it.
Ordered. Shipping does suck, but we'll likely hit the unlocked stuff, which balances the cost.
Good time to pick up stuff I've been missing.
UK is looking like $30 shipping for the $20 box..
Still tempted and will need to negotiate hard with the other half...
Ordered. The mini-expansions more or less cover the cost of shipping for me. Totally worth it. Now we just need 1500 people to pre-order.
Shipping costs on our web store are calculated by a FedEx plug-in that accurately transmits what WE pay to ship the game to you. So, unfortunately, those shipping rates are what we pay. Yes, we ALWAYS lose money on Kickstarter campaigns due to shipping, since we offer a flat rate there.
As has been pointed out, the price of shipping here should be offset by the free stuff you will get. That said, if you'd rather wait and get the expansion from your FLGS, please do! We love gaming stores and are very interested in making sure getting the games from your local store rather than a website is entirely viable.
Seconded, luckily there is still some time.
Do I dare guess that the 1500 unlock is Guise?
Ordered, though the shipping costs to France are harsh. Let's hope this campaign will be as succesful as the KS ones.
What can I say, I am a Multiverse addict...
Maybe you're secretly Guise.
Ordered.... but I also winced at the shipping costs.
Unless you are, imprimis5…
Hmm... Perhaps I should of paid attention to the shipping cost when I bought it... Oh well! I would of gotten it anyway.
Nope. Wraith dressed as The Matriarch inhabited by the soul of The Operative. It'll be a promo card for Omnitron-X with the power "Synthesize: Activate the Perform text of a Tool, and deal a Target a Mode's (Spell number) Toxic damage. Add one token to your Unlucky Pool."
Her nemesis will be The Ennead.
You're giving away playtesting secrets!!!
Well, with shipping to the UK (I know, shipping costs a lot), it's only worth it for me to preorder if everything gets unlocked.
I don't think I'm Guise unless I am.....
Also, Reckless please stop spoiling things geez.......
Ok, the pre-order has been open for a while now, and the ticker is still saying 6. I'm sure it's more than that, but it feels like it should have refreshed by now.
What have been the total copies preordered for the other expansions when they were through kickstarter? I am only familiar with the $ focus totals but those were often confused by add ons and other things. Is 1500 a real stretch or is it reasonable compared to what other preorders have sold?
Take into account that game shops and online retailers like to buy in bulk. I think its totally reasonable
Yay! You guys unlocked the promos! I'm getting it but want to wait to order til I know where I'm living in the fall
Says 118 for me after ordering. Promos unlocked.
Also, does Guide know he(?) Is Guise?
odd I still see 6 as well on sotm page
edit: I finally see a different number after using an incognito tab in chrome.
I'm showing 126 now.
Can we expect Kickstarter-style updates about the content of Wrath of the Cosmos?
I, for one, would be very interested to find out what environments and villains we might face. I'm likely to pre-order regardless, but it'd be nice to know what I'm getting beyond "2 heroes, 4 villains, and 2 environments".
got my preorder in. very excited for this expansion. Love me some space stuff. and if you look at the crazy prices the promo cards go for on secondary, it is more than worth it.
Will be pre-ordering as soon as I get home :D
just ordered, despite the UK shipping prices. We're past 150 according to the front of the site, so that's the 5 free promo cards unlocked too.
I was thinking of placing a preorder of this for my brother but the shipping cost was $30 which is ridiculous. I'm tired that US Territories are treated like second rate in shipping charges everywhere when the USPS treats us like any of the States.
From Christopher's post:
Of course, we've already seen the box cover as well.
What! I'm just going off of the obvious here, folks! Captain Cosmic's deck won't be printed as cards, but text printed on card-shaped fireworks! You have to light the 'work to activate the text on the card! You get a bonus if you keep all of your fingers.
Nah. It's gonna be Cosmic Brownies with the text spelled out in sprinkles.
I wonder how often we will get updates on things
Regardless of the precise answer, the actual answer is "not often enough."
Part of me hopes not, as I really want to see some villain promos, too!
But yeah, Prime Wardens would be shiny…
Hey there, just a few questions on the preorders
To clarify the free enviorments, heros and villians refer to the previous sets released for characters like Unity, Scholar etc.
Meanwhile any word on how soon will the app be updated? That thing serves as our group's lifeline and we're scared at the idea of going back to counters.
Edit: Sorry, I think I may have misread.
The Mini-expansions will be solo decks like Unity, Scholar, etc, but be brand new ones yet to be seen.
I thinks it is very smart to be running this through PAX Prime, sure to unlock everything with that attencion.
MigrantP would have a better answer than me, but if Vengeance was any indication, the App will be updated the same day the product goes live. I got Vengeance at my door and the app was ready to go IIRC
Woo! Those promos are awesome!
Yes! I'm so glad I don't have to keep this secret anymore!
They really are. They definently change mechanics for some of the heroes.
Lots of great powers and love the artwork.
Argent Adept: So colorful. I'd really like a lore explaination of that art. Idk, but that seems like a straight up better power than Vocalize. Very interesting.
Haka: That power is awesome! Imagine using Haka of Battle on a Wraithful Retribution. Speaking of which...
Fanatic: My biggest question - Where is she standing?
Tempest: I KNEW we would see him with a sword at some point! And talk about a nasty power, thats gonna hurt but its gonna hurt so good!
Captain Cosmic: That is the most badass costume I have ever seen. Great job Adam!
I really enjoy AA. He looks like he's grown so much. The mirth in his eyes is gone, like he's seen way more than he ever wanted.
Does it make me a bad person to want to see their incap side as well? I really like what each of them do and it does tell me a bit about Captain Cosmic's deck.
I can't say it's straight up better. It activates an Accompany Text, something Melodies don't have at all. Then when you look at Accompanies and Performs, Syncopated Onslaught's Accompany is not as good as Scherzo of Frost and Flame's Perform. Alacritious Subdominant's Accompany is not as good as Inspiring Supertonic's Perform. Inventive Preperation's Accompany is not as good as Alacritious Subdominant's Perform. Then the Accompany for Inspiring Supertonic may or may not be better than the Perform on Rhapsody of Vigor, depending on who needs healing. This only leaves Cedistic Dissonant and Counterpoint Bulwark that cannot be replicated as a Perform Text.
It's really no surprise that an activate an accompany power actually gets more text than just a perform. Especially with the ease to possibly not even get a card with an accompany text on it, or having a Polyphoric Flare on bottom, ouch.
I was just thinking I wanted to see their incaps
We are in the same boat my friend. Those incaps are going to give away so much story, so we might just have to wait until its at our doorsteps
NEW mini expansions?! Oh man now I want this stuff bad!
Does Tempest's sword turn blue when there are orcs around?
SWEET!! Life has kept me away from the forums for a bit... but the day I manage to get back on is the day the pre-order is open!! Done and done!!
Wait... I ordered 2 (one for me and one to share). Do I get two sets of promos? Or do I need to place separate orders?
According to their twitter feed you do get another set
2 sets. 1 for each box
Dayumn, Adam is really knocking the art out of the park lately.
Prime Tempest is awesome on his own, but with Elemental Subwave Inducer and Otherworldly Resilience on the table?
Dang…
Agreed, but he will need a good portion of his card draw to work as effectively
If we’re talking about Tempest I have little concern over that. As is the power is magnificent. But with two DR? Heck, even with just one, it’s deadly.
Anyone else notice that each Prime Warden has some variation on “Play a card” innate powers?
Here’s a thought… Remember all that talk from a while back about The Dreamer’s projections being based off of heroes?
Take a look at Argent Adept. I think we found the Toymaster.
And his instruments are toys in a way. I thought during that discussion the thought was the toy master was Unity, though. I do think AA makes more sense
I remain unconvinced. When work is over and I have access to my cards, I will elaborate on why.
Argent has his link to nightmares through Akash/grotesque Araknoid
Apostate makes a good choice for the toy master
I think if The Dreamer has a nightmare about Argent Adept I think it would probably just be Willie Nelson.
Counter shows 360 for me at the moment. Hitting 500 seems like a lock. I don't have a feeling for whether or not the new pre-order system will reach as many people as Kickstarter was able to to know how likely the higher levels are. I really want that new hero...
To be honest, if we don’t reach 1500, I can’t see Christopher just dropping him/her. I’m sure they’ll pop up later; just not for free, right now.
I really hope we do unlock the hero! I'd love to preorder and give my money to >G directly, but I can't justify the shipping unless there's enough free stuff to make the game worth double the price I'd pay locally. As cool as the promos are, they aren't $6 each cool.
But I have no doubt we'll get there.
Illusionary Deamon has that one.
I don't know, I go out for the day and all this cool stuff suddenly appears; perhaps I should go out more?
As a big Tempest fan, already in love with the promos seen so far.
In the same boat as Silverleaf though. Not sure I can justify that much money unless everything is unlocked.
Barring catastrophe, Sentinels Sidekick will be updated by the time the game is at your door.
Just 2 away for the free Environment! Woo!
And over! 
I wonder if they have anything exciting planned if we breach the 1500 copies sold really early. Perhaps even more villain promos!!! There's got to be a reason when they posted pictures from Wrath of the Cosmos that one of them contained Akash'Bhuta after all...
The new Argent Adept variant should really help him get his deck set up... And let's face it, that's always the most difficult part of playing as the Adept, so this should really bolster him.
Not sure how I feel about the other powers... Haka could be useful for the purposes of making him a healer, I guess, but beyond that, I don't see it as that useful, I'll probably stick with The Eternal Haka.
Fanatic and Tempest... High risk high gain powers... Not sure how I feel about them, but definitely the sorts that you would want a healer on the team for... Nice to see potential psynergy with the team, but I don't think PW Haka with Haka of Healing would be sufficient to support the use of both of them.
And of course, I can't really say anything abotu Captain Cosmic until I know how the rest of his deck is, and how it compares to his default card.
I'd still like to know how The Naturalist isn't part of the Prime Wardens. Especially since he has a major tie to the Argent Adept.
I don't think the Naturalist is high-powered enough. Thematically, I mean.
Look at what these five do. They have insane capabilities and can really go off! (Okay, with the exception of Captain Cosmic - primarily because we don't know what he can do, but he's a hero from outer space so we can probably make some assumptions.) While Naturalist is very capable, he just isn't in the same league as these folks. You know what I mean?
That's just my perception, though. 
Thematically it would make sense for him to be part of it at least to me but I get how an animal shapeshifter is not at the same level as those heroes.
I think I know what the intention here is, but I wanted to see what you folks think...
Prime Haka's power states that another hero may benefit from the "Effects" of a Haka card. I'm interpreting that as Haka drawing/discarding the cards while another hero gains the damage buff/DR/healing.
Sound correct?
That's how I read it. I'm still a bit surprised he gains a HP with this promo.
I read it the opposite way, interpreteing "effect" as "card text," and not just the gain of the Haka in question.
Also I found Haka of Shielding useful, especially with Tempest and Fanatic's new powers, with this team, even more so than regeneration.
Power levels nonwithstanding, The Naturalist strikes me as far more of a loner than the other characters. He's willing to partner with other heroes when the situation necessitates it, but other than that, he prefers to work on his own. Kind of like Spider-Man for most of his existence: mostly a solo act, but willing to join forces when things get out of hand. K.N.Y.F.E. feels the same way.
I'm going to be holding my breath until they post the update announcing the unlocked environment.
Now I don't know how well this holds up, but this is my thought. The Naturalist is a protector of nature. Akash'Bhuta is made of and uses nature in combat. Prime Wardens was specifically made to fight Akash'Bhuta. If The Naturalist had joined Prime Wardens, that would mean he would be joining a team that is trying to defeat nature. While he may understand their reasonings and not hold any grudges, he does not want to be involved with it.
Now you may say to yourself "hey, you can totally play The Naturalist versus Akash'Bhuta," which is true. There is a difference between being on the scene when Akash'Bhuta strikes and actively hunting her down.
Another reason why he may not be a member of the Prime Wardens, perhaps he did not have his powers the first time Prime Wardens were formed. After all, Akash'Bhuta's first appearance is in Prime Wardens #1. Since Akash'Bhuta is responsible for The Naturalist gaining his powers, it's certainly possible that she was seen before Argent Adept mentions her to The Naturalist.
Wait, so maybe when Haka plays his Haka card on someone else, it's the someone else who gets to draw then discard all the cards for the effect? I would love for that to be the way it works since it means Haka doesn't need to be continually discarding when he plays a bunch of Hakas, but I'll be surprised if that's actually how it's supposed to work.
Prime Wardens Haka can outright play a card as a Power. For a Hero with as much card draw as Haka, that's very strong.
PW Haka also combines excellent with PW Tempest, in that the damage Tempest gets from the environment when using his power can be redirected to Haka if Enduring Intercession (if that is the right name of the card) is in play.
Arcane Cadence could combo nicely with the new Adept's power - set yourself up with something useful on the bottom of your deck and then play it in your Power phase :D.
Yeah, I don't see how it can work that way. The "Haka of" cards do not say "Haka draws" or "Haka discards" – the only mention of Haka is in the second part, e.g. "Increase damage dealt by Haka…" Furthermore, the power allows you to choose any target, not just heroes. The first part of the "Haka of" cards would be nonsensical applied to an environment or villain card.
Do we have any idea what happened to Absolution that seems to have shattered it? I can only assume something to do with Apostate since her PW costume seems to be a mix of Normal Fanatic and Redeemer Fanatic.
Look at Critical Multiplier in Parse's deck, that shows Absolution breaking.
Pre-ordered.. and posted my first post on this forum. : )
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Welcome to the forums!
Thanks
Greetings! What better way to announce yourself, even. 
Welcome! And beware the train puns!
Don't you dare…
Like Ronway said, Absolution was shattered during a battle with Citizen Truth.
Is that supposed to be some sort of metaphor or symbolism? Like absolution is destroyed by truth. Who knows?
Hey! I didn't do anything!
Yet.
Super awesome: pre-ordering new SotM expansion.
Slightly sad: there goes the box I built... totally won't have space for the new expansion. T_T
if I order two copies (one for a friend to save on shipping) are they counted as one pre-order ortwo?
Also, this looks amazing!
Two copies, and you get two sets of promos as well, according to the >G Twitter feed.
Just over 24 hours in, and we're already at the half way mark!
That's a good point, I hadn't noticed that it can be applied to any target, but it still seems to me that the "effect" of the card is to:
a. Draw Cards
b. Discard Cards
c. Gain some benefit related to the number of cards discarded
instead of just (c.). I view it as similar to Syntactic Analysis in terms of affecting another hero (although that card does explicitly spell out that the other hero does the drawing.)
Given the problems that can arise if you play it on a non-hero character card target, the card is probably meant to be played your way with Haka doing the drawing and discarding, however until that is made clear I think I will play it with the new target drawing and discarding because it is more fun for me.
Thematically it probably makes more sense your way to because it is as though Haka is performing the Haka on behalf of someone else (instead of teaching it to them.)
Drawing and discarding are not the effects. They are the requirements. Haka performs the requirements. Another hero (may) gain the effect, which is to regain HP or whatever.
That's almost surely the correct interpretation, although there's never been any official demarcation between requirements and effects, and it's a reasonable interpretation to think that the effect of playing the card is that the text on the card is invoked, which would make all of the text on the card the effect. Reasonable, but probably not what's intended (which is too bad).
That's one interpretation. Unfortunately, SotM doesn't officially distinguish requirements from effects. A more formalized "requirement" would be followed by something like "If you do, then…", which isn't the case. (Or be more structurally represented, as in Magic the Addiction.)
Personally, I think thematically the intention is for Haka to draw and discard, then allow another to get the last part. Mechanically, though, we don't have anything on the card but the effect (the entire card), so I think the other hero will draw, discard, and get the last part.
Because I forcus more on thematic aspects, I'll be playing that way (until I hear differently from an official source). 
But there is a difference between cause/effect or trigger/effect that is common in SotM. I agree with you both that I think this is the intent though. I think the "apply effect" wording is important. Maybe you can't "apply" the effect of drawing/discarding, but you can apply the effects of +damage and +healing and +DR. Maybe thats where the difference is.
Also, here’s that important distinction between heroes and players drawing/playing cards you wanted, Foote!
ARGH! I was really hoping you were not gonna catch that and bring it up 
I just hope the eventual printed promo does make it clearer which of the two interpretations is intended.
I'm itching for an update on the unlocked environment or more information about WotC itself.
Will order this just as soon as my napping daughter doesn't have me pinned. Can't. Reach. Wallet.
Don't forget to refresh every five seconds. It helps time move faster… Somehow. Dr. Stinson assured me.
That's what I've been doing but I'm having the opposite effect.
Effect*
Also…
Nope. Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too quick. I would catch it.
Powerhound, I'm right there with you.
Must have news! The bigger problem for me is, I'm going to be leaving work early today and won't be near a computer again until late tonight. If we don't get an update before then, I just know it's going to be gnawing at me the whole time.
We're at 890 copies sold as I write this. I think we're going to break 1,000 by the end of the day. Anyone have any guesses as to whether or not the >G guys have further "stretch goals" planned after the current list, just in case?
(Nicely done, sir. 
)
Before I say anything, let me make it clear: I am not part of Greater Than Games, and this post is entirely speculation.
I'm betting they're pretty busy with Sentinel Tactics right now; I'm guessing that they've begun preparing them to ship, as the Kickstarter for that said that the ship to addresses would be finalized a few hours ago.
Also for further stretch goals, as much as I'd love to see such, I really doubt it. Assuming we hit all stretch goals, there will be three mini-expansions; judging by the mini-expansions that are already out, once they're available for purchase seperately, the environment will probably be 4 USD, and the hero and villain will probably be 5 USD each. This means that if they hit the 1.5k mark, they'll essentially be giving away 14 USD worth of stuff (not counting the promo cards and art prints) for each 20 USD purchase… That's already some pretty strong incentive right now.
I see your point, and agree with you, but the stretch goals were pretty insane for the Shattered Timelines and Sentinel Tactics Kickstarters. They wouldn't be doing things that way if it was hurting the company.
The more units they print, up to a point, reduces their total cost per unit, opening up their profit margins for additional stretch goals. This isn't counting the number of units they'll move of the expansion and associated mini-expansions at general retail, which won't include the cost of the art prints.
Make no mistake, I am 300% happy with what they're currently offering. I'm so excited about more SotM, but the early launch of Sentinel Tactics will tide me over until it lands on my doorstep. I just like wild speculation.
Besides, Chrono-Ranger, Omnitron-X, Parse, The Scholar, The Naturalist, The Sentinels, and K.N.Y.F.E. don't have any promos, and we don't want anyone to feel left out, do we? Not to mention, I would squeal with delight if Citizen Dawn got a promo.
Omnitron IV is an Environment?!?
Ha HA! O-IV rocks my world.
Fighting Omnitron with Omnitron in Omnitron ? I can't wait !
Here's the link, since GtG made a mistake in getting out so much awesomeness:
https://greaterthangames.com/content/well-over-500-copies-preordered
Man, now I want to see what the Sentinels promos would be, and whether it'd be all or nothing or mix n' match.
So I is the original, II is Cosmic, IV is this, and V is in Tactics... What happened to III?
EDIT: Nevermind, got an answer on the update comments.
Yeah, he’s really something all right…
Omni-Blade!
Omnitron III is Omni-Blade, featured in Baron Blade's Vengeance deck; the bio for Omnitron-IV mentions this.
Wow that is the most exciting environment ever. I am pumped for Omnitron IV.
This is insane. I wanted to preorder one for me and one for friend to split the costs of the shipping which i thought could be a little high but then we saw actual price and ... i fainted a little. Its 60$, three times of thing were buying... There is no some trick or something this time? Like someone preordering it to some cheap place to europe and send it to everyone or something? I were steadfast fan of sotm to this day(kickstarted shattered timelines and tactics with help of ppl from this forum, buying all other expansions in flgs, buying errata cards) but more shipping costs than tactics? One box full of cards shipping cost, costing more than 4 boxes - two full of plastic, how this can weigh and cost EVEN MORE? It seems leaving kickstart was not a good day for europe fans.
==> Wager Master: Exist
https://greaterthangames.com/content/over-1000-copies-preordered-introducing-wager-master
you succeed gloriously.
Wager-Master is here! The question is... do you feel lucky?
(Pun over)
Hmmm where have I seen him before...very interesting indeed!
He's adorable!
I imagine both the players and Wager Master have a win condition in games with him that don't rely solely on incapacitating each other.
It's the little SotM Mr. Mxyzptlk I've always wanted. :-)
@Chainsawrabbit: Actually, the insane Kickstarter rewards for Shattered Timelines caused GTG to lose money (along with the flat-rate shipping they did for Kickstarters). Obviously not enough to keep them from keeping on, but they did themselves some damage, which is why the GSF and Sentinel Tactics Kickstarters were a lot more modest with their stretch rewards.
Re: Wager Master: I didn't even realize we were missing that type of villain, and now that he's here I am the definition of the word "excite." Now that I can sometimes take down the Dreamer I suspect I have a new bar to jump over...
Dammit. Now I want to know what forms Omnitron V through Omnitron IX had. 
I honestly can't wait to be able to pre-order Wrath of the Cosmos, but I'm going to have to be one of those people who wait till the very end.
I *just* started a new job, and won't get paid till the 1st of September!
I'll bet, given the time, Christopher and Adam will be happy to show you.
One of the expansions in Tactics will just be all the currently unknown Omnitrons.
Omnitron V is included in the Sentinel Tactics core game. He's similar to his original form, but I don't think he has the internal drone-manufacturing capabilities. Instead, it appears he has one large, detachable drone called the Omni-Reaper. I think it's designed to be an autonomous and highly capable counterpart, more like a homicidal Han and Chewie than the previous incarnations' armies of mindless Stormtrooper-style drones. I think. We won't know for sure until the backer rewards for Sentinel Tactics start arriving.
Omnitron Xs incap art really comes into its own now. It looks like omnitron 4 finally gets his hands on X. That can't be good!
O-V still has drones.
Also, I think that makes a lot of sense... O-X being assimilated is what leads tothe creation of O-V. Would explain why we haven't seen O-X (or, awesome as it would be, O-XI) in Tactics.
I don't think omnitron V is near as powerful as omnitron IV because reasons. Omnitron X has to be "saved" eventually or at least IV has to go down at some point. Omnitron has a history of gaining power, losing it, then seeking to regain it again. I think that cycle will repeat here.
Omni IV assimilating X is what's gonna make IV such a massive threat to deal with for sure.
Like Superman 3?
And now I want to go see it again. Good one sir.
My Omnitron 6-9 predictions.
Omnitron 6 wins, takes over the world, and turns all humans into living batteries that survive mentally in an artificial world devoid of superheroes to fuel a planet of robots.
Omnitron 7 has survived the death of the human race and has grown to the size of a large city, fully mechanized and happily chugging away for eons until a group of aliens land on the planet, awakening long compressed and archived memories of organic life.
Omnitron 8 is taken back on the alien ship, which has time travel capabilities. Omnitron struggles to decide if it is better to survive as he is or fight for his goal to destroy organic life on Earth once and for all.
Omnitron-9 Has merged himself into his alien host bodies and returns to Earth of the past determined to turn all Earthlings into unfeeling robot-men who will do his bidding. When he fails again, he is determined that instead of turning humans to be part of him, he needs to become more human.
Is anyone out there doing a bulk ship to Australia
I really want this but not paying $60 shipping for a $20 game
Hrm.
Omnitron I is a villain with a full deck.
Omnitron II is a promo villian card.
Omnitron III is a minion card in another villain’s deck.
Omnitron IV is an environment with full deck.
Omnitron V is a tactics villain with giant mini.
Omnitron X is a hero with full deck.
I predict
Omnitron VI will be Tactics Environment Tiles.
Omnitron VII will be… The box for an expansion.
Omnitron VIII will be a set of dice for tactics.
Omnitron IX will be a playmat.
Forthermore
Omnitron XI will be a promo card as a set of power armor that Unity wears with Omnitron X’s deck.
Omnitron XII will be a Tactics hero.
Omnitron XIII is the Greater Than Games warehouse.
I always assumed Omnitron V was going to be Tachyon's toaster.
My guess, Omnitron-VII is the new Bunker suit.
Omnitron-VI: "I see you're trying to grind a planet to dust. Would you like some help with that?"
Well…uh…did you see the back of the Tactics comics Christopher posted? I dont think you're gonna have to wait till version 7
Omnitron-VIII no longer cares about the world's destruction, get's married, and lives a quiet life as an emu farmer.
I knew I got the idea from somewhere. Thanks!
I didn't see that. Where is it?
Man, you really got to start reading all the post.
So, Omnidrone hugging Bunker on the back of that comic means Omnitron will become a new Bunker suit. Sounds good to me. I guess my powers of conclusion leaping aren't as strong as everyone else's, because I missed that one. ;)
Don't worry about it, man. I saw the picture, but I sure didn't get that from it, either. Seems to me it's more likely that Omnitron is taking Bunker technology.
It may not become a new Bunker suit, as in, Vance is gonna be manning the armor for good. But the suit really looks like its being assimilated into the fold (it does say its innevitable!). Probably very similar to what Omni-IV did to X, its just another way for Omnitron to amass power and this time its takeing one of the strongest machines around besides itself.
Why are people so sure that it's Omnitron-IV assimilating Omnitron-X (on O-X's incap side)? I mean, it's plausible, but why hone in on that one?
This is the same forum that thought The Operative was the FVI Wraith from a single character card. Many now think that Matriarch will be a hero from one card in a hero deck. I’m not saying this is good or bad but there are a lot of users that hone in on ONE piece of art and have a field day with “What ifs”.
IV is a big factory to mass produce drones. In X's incap art, the big red eye and the parts surrounding him look far more structural than his other incarnations (which looked more insect like). You can see the wires hanging and the doorway arch…thats a building. I'm pretty confident that its IV.
Bwah!
1223! How can we get more people to pre-order?! I wanna see the hero!!!
You can always pre-order another 277 copies…
You'd save on shipping! :P
Both of those, I think, were me. And speculating is half the fun of it all! You make it sound like a bad thing 
The omnitron and omnitron X story lines are kinda hard to put together, but heres what I think:
Omnitron 1 - became sentient, rampaged a bit, and was defeated by the F5.
Omnitron 2 - given new life from a mysterious cosmic force, came back, rampaged a bit, and is defeated during the comic story line "Singularity" where Omni-X makes his huge sacrifice to blow omnitron into a million pieces. Those bits find there way into various places and hands…like Baron Blade.
Omnitron 3 - Baron assembled some fragments and used Omnitron to battle with him during Vengeance
Omnitron 4 - Some of those fragments and pieces of code blown up by Omni-X make their way to Mars, where Omnitron tries a different approach and turns himself into a massive factory. Various villains go there to use Omnitron for their means, and at some point Omni-X (who's still in existence because comics and time-space shenanigans) finds himself there again to stop his past self, but somehow this new form overtakes Omni-X and assimilates him to probably build an early proto-type of the Omni-Reaper that we saw in the Tactics Kickstarter.
My apologies! Speculation is fun, but I’ve noticed that we’re almost constantly starved for information. One piece of art and it’s a race to see which speculation ties it into the whole Multiverse!
I’m probably just jealous that I don’t come up with any of those speculations!
Matriarch becoming a hero is far fetched from one piece of art, but really, we have never seen art of a villain fighting another villain in all of the expansions ever released. Her being right in the clutches of [redacted] feels like its a not-so-subtle hint to me. But I'v been wrong about these things far more than I'v been right, so theres that.
About 250 copies until the new hero
Just curious. which art you referring to where matriarch is fighting another villain?
Thanks
The 213 I already ordered emptied my account, so I'm done. Who's next? 
It's in Parse's deck. "Reveal The Flaws"
Its more like the giant silver guy (with a symbol on his head thats exactly like the one on the WotC box), is grabbing Matriarch, and it looks like, to me, that Cap Cosmic is rushing in to…save her maybe? Why would this be? Either way, it doesn't look like a friendly interaction between Matty and ol' silver face.
https://greaterthangames.com/content/wrath-of-the-cosmos-hero-captain-cosmic
We have our first bio up! Captain Cosmic looks great!
Cool. I had forgotten that card. I think when I saw it the big silver dude was an undisclosed hero. But I like the theory of Matriarch becoming a hero much more. That would be cool. Her bio does not suggest she would be inclined that way, but you never know…
Lets go over the teased artwork!
Green Skeletor bots. We have seen them in KNYFE's deck before, but theres more of them? This certainly has got my curiosity! What are these things?!
The third picture is almost certainly Empyreon, Caps nemmy found in V5 Baron's deck. Chest energy, blue cape and helmet, thats one heck of a battle picture!
Must... stop... refreshing.... counter.
They appear related to Revocorp, to me, based on Revenant's appearance.
Forget the pictures, what about the purple crystal! Visionary coming to out timeline protected by her cocoon?
They are definitely mechanical in nautre. RevoCorp would make a lot of sense. We know they have been studying Omnitrons code since it was first defeated, and at least had a hand in the augmentation of other badguys, namely FrightTrain and Revenant as you said. Could this be RevoCorp's attempt at a robot army force using their knowledge of Omnitrons coding?
Edit: They could also be FILTER related. FILTER kinda resembles SHIELD from marvel, maybe these roboty scary things are close analog to Ultron? Could explain their presence in outerspace and it's importance of showing up in KNYFEs deck.
All so, is Cosmic's brother his nemesis? In the comics he probably would
Could Visionary give powers like that from her time jump? I think its more likely a power source from something or somewhere. Oh man…Tactics needs to go live so I can talk up some crazy theories here!
Doesn't have to be Visionary, just some cosmic residue that clung on to her. Could be the same stuff that helped out Omnitron Jr.
I just want to know about Nigel.
As I was reading the bio I really hoped the two brothers would morph into one super cosmic being... oh well, the brother nemesis trope will have to do.
OK. I think I'm gonna pick up 3 more copies to help this thing move along...
I think Cosmitron was created by the Wager Master.
I think the Timelines Shattering was helped by him.
From the post where he is introduced I don't think he just showed up suddenly, I think he has been around, testing the heroes of the planet to find out what unique strengths these humans have, by tinkering with reality.
After all, he is literally made of the possibilities that didn't happen. Shattering the barrier between reality and alternate realities would seem to be his thing. The whole Iron Legacy/Dark Visionary arcs reek of Wager Master.
It sounds like a lot of what has been happening he has been influencing.
If so, we need to hear more about him.
I was thinking the opposite. Wager Master comes after Visionary starts changing the odds of certain events, by breaking through the timelines.
Cosmitrons bio is critical here: OMNITRON was reborn. Planet Earth was in grave danger. And a cosmic force watched from a vast distance away, almost disinterested in the outcome of its own experiment
It's interesting that, if this is the work of Wager Master, he wouldn't be interested in the outcome. But he also toys with people and reality, and so that could make a lot of sense here. But the wording "outcome" sounds like betting terms.
I'm inclined to agree with you on this one Skippy
Note also the pronoun "it", which is also used in Wager Master's bio. I believe Omnitron is the only revealed villain that uses that pronoun.
When is the life-size Wager Master plushie coming out?
I'll be placing my order in about a week... Not sure how many I'll be getting, but myself, my mother, and my sisters are all getting some, and I'm getting plenty of extras. Should be at least a dozen between the four of us.
Woo! I'd say we're set on a pretty good track, considering the pre-order doesn't end until early September.
I'll be placing mine later this month (stupid car repairs)
Indeed; it looks like we may well hit 1.5k tomorrow, and certainly long before I place my order.
This! Unfortunately!
One oddball idea I had is that Wager Master himself won't be a target on either side of his card. The starting side will have an alternate loss condition, and if we can flip it, the back side will have a win condition for the heroes.
Since the 1,500 looks like a lock (mine was 1,405, I think), I went ahead and placed my pre-order along with some other small bits I never bothered to pick up before (extra tokens, Silver Gulch, Final Wasteland) so the whole package looks a lot more reasonable with the P&P. Yay.
Just a shame they don't have the Oversized Villain Cards in stock, as I would've added those to the order, assuming they'd be replenished by shipping in December. Would I be able to add them, plus any adjustment to the P&P, to the order at a later date if they became available?
I sure hope so. I'm still wanting to get my hands on oversized AoG Spite and SW Gloomie.
I ordered the oversized villain cards when the errata cards with the dark watch + Spite and Gloomy promos came out. Hopefully they reprint soon.
Has an erratad oversized Matriarch card come out yet?
What about The Dreamer?
I don't think so.
Yeah, I've been planning on buying the oversized new Matriarch and the new deck when I can. Beats having to explain it to people anytime someone plays Expat.
What's the errata for them?
Matty's entire deck changed, where the text for palying additional cards from fowls in on her character card, and not the fowl cards.
For the Dreamer, I think the small and over-sized cards don't match precisely.
The damage on Dreamer's reverse side should be H minus 2 Psychic damage, but the oversized card has it listed as H minus 1. She's hard enough to begin with.
La Capitan's full sized advanced has her redirecting the first time each turn, as opposed to the first time each round
Less than 50 boxes to go before our final (maybe?) stretch goal.
I'd like to see the oversized cards included as the 2000 stretch goal.
Can somone please, please, by 22 copies .... I mean, we till have a month, but a lot can happen in a month!
I thought that the oversized villain cards were the standard now anyways?
No, that's only for Vengeance. They currently do not have any for Agent of Gloom Spite, Skinwalker Gloomweaver, or any of the Wrath of the Cosmos villains. They're going to make them, sure, but not for a while. And not for free, which is the point.
Only 8 more copies until the mini expansion hero reveal
8 more!!!
Nope - they're just too expensive.
They are doing the regular-sized cards with the sets, then every so often they're releasing a collected pack of the over-sized villain cards.
Personally, I hope the next goal is promo villains! That would be awesome, especially something like Akash'bhuta and Voss! 
And we've hit 1500!
Too bad we won't get an update til Monday most likely
*Jumps for joy!*
FYI for Canadians (or perhaps other internationals) - if you order multiple copies, the shipping price per copy goes way down. For me, the shipping on one copy is $34. So far I've gotten 4 other locals together, and for 5 copies the shipping price per copy is just $12.
Apparently that's the shipping price the Americans are bitching about, but I'm pretty happy about it =)
In case you're wondering, Paul said in the post comments: "You get 1 sets of bonus things per copy of Wrath of the Cosmos you order, so feel free to consolidate!"
Definitely feel free to consolidate! In fact, we specifically *encourage* consolidation on this preorder since it will save you so much on shipping. One of the big advantages of doing a preorder through our website instead of a Kickstarter campaign is that we can calculate actual shipping for a package of any weight, so consolidations are easy (unlike on Kickstarter, where they are so complicated as to be unworkable).
Can any playtesters comment on who the mini expansion hero is?
To speak for everyone, no, that would be violating the playtesting agreement unless the GtG folks give the ok. You guys will see it soon and I personally think the deck will be a favorite for many people
Far be it for us to take the pleasure away from >G to introduce their own character. We will see it soon enough and it will be worth the wait.
I thought that might be the case but I thought I would ask instead of assuming
Can we? absolutely. It is fully within the physical limitations of our earthly forms to type out the name of the hero.
... Will we? Are we allowed to? No.
As a non-playtester, I would guess it's Guise. He was mentioned on Argentium in Friction's deck. The other 2 names we learned in vengeance are in Wrath of the Cosmos, so Guise is likely to be the mini.
Of course I don't know anything for sure
That's what I'm expecting but I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced an unknown hero.
You'll like it. That's all I'm allowed to say.
Or you won’t, we’re not psychics.
Although it’s a pretty cool hero.
It's Monday... :D soooooo. Who is it?
ME!!!!!!
Don't worry, we're making extensive changes to Pydro before we release him into the game, a 1HP hero was deemed "less useful than a tidal powered washing machine after Baron Blade has activated his Terralunar Impulsion Beam".
Woohoo! Nobody else can say that! I finally stand out!
Well, you weren't standing for long…
Ooh, just saw a banner ad on BGG for the WotC pre-order, with a very fetching image of Sky-Scraper and plenty of Kirby krackle in the background. Very nice.
I'm pretty sure Kirby Krackle was the breakfast cereal I ate when I was a kid.
It cut up the roof of my mouth so bad. Had to let it soak in milk for a solid 10 minutes before eating.
At this point I would like to just see any update about WotC or the unlocked hero. However, I realize they must be quite busy preparing for Gencon and shipping out Sentinel Tactics.
whew. Thought I was the only one hitting refresh on the WotC page where the goals were listed.
Ok, all is shipped...I'm ready for that Hero now =)
I prefer subs.
I for one am the very picture of patient resolve.
Haha, well played…
Guess what has been posted!
Woohoo
Cool!
It has officially been confirmed by GtG, Ronway is not the best.
Now, the question is : does he have a "Breach the fourth wall" card ???
A shape shifting Deadpool. The Mulitverse will never be the same.
And now everyone knows how Mcbehrer gave away the answer several posts back.
I don't know anyone else noticed this, but hold your mouse over the images in the mini-expansion hero update.
I win at everything
Who else went back and did the same over the other updates?
He's the best (around). No one's ever gonna take him down.
I know I did! They misspelled Wager Master on one of his pics, haha. Oh, well.
There’s alt text?! Damn, I can’t view it until I get home…
You can view them on an iDevice - press and hold the pic, and then box that pops up has the text along with the usual option buttons.
I am awesome at karate
Android. I’ll just have to wait. No big deal.
The post I deleted, you mean?
Ha, I went looking for something (typically too close to the line but couldn't find it. Mystery explained.
Yeah, Mods have been diligent on this one. Which is cool, many of us get a little too excited about our unique knowledge.
Didn’t realize you deleted it. Ok, you can put it back now.
I’ll be honest: I may have been less than sober at that point. I have been really trying not to do that lately.
The hints I mean. I’ve been trying to be good.
I’m sorry…
No, don’t worry about it. I’d rather it weren’t there anyway.
I think one of the first fights I'll do when WotC will reach me will be " [ Guise + Setback + The Scholar] / The Wager Master", probably in the realm of discord... And will spend the whole game trying to write the dialogs ...
And Unity. You want funny dialog, you gotta bring Unity.
I wonder if they intend to add more stretch goals since those were plowed through in less then a week. Even if not, all the other stuff is still awesome.
Not saying it is impossible, but probably not. The busted ass this weekend shipping Sentinel Tactics, only to turn around and head to GenCon. That's pretty much a week blocked out of their schedule. Then they get to play catch-up after the con.
Besides anything more would just add production cost and development time and ultimately lose them money.
Guise sounds awesome. I'm guessing from the "I can't help if I don't get cards on the table" line and his apparent shapeshifting \ power stealing that he possibly doesn't have his own deck but just has a character card and can 'borrow' cards from other heroes? That'd open up a lot of great possibilities if true.
Roll on December 
Guise is more remarking on the fact that he is unable to help us, as the players, if we don't use his cards on the table. I read it your way the first time, though.
Err, sorry but where is this update on Guise? The Wrath of the Cosmos unlock list thingy doesn't seem to have been updated. Where are you all looking?
Added. I'd like to see Lamebot Awesomebot ! in action.
I think that’s supposed to be his Dead Pool personality shining through and breaking the fourth wall. In the Dead Pool comics, DP is constantly talking to the reader and even blaming the writers of his comic for any mishaps or his lack of fame/money/movie rights/etc.
Guise saying it’s not his fault for not getting cards in the table is him acknowledging that he is in a game (ie fourth wall breakage) and is blaming the player for his misfortune.
Fair enough, another theory bites the dust :-p
It really is a pain in the backside to know I have to change address by Mid-September at the moment! I'm trying to persuade someone local to do the pre-order with me and have them as the shipping address... Still unable to find Shattered Timelines in the UK though, not sure if the European distributors have any copies as Orcs Nest, Leisure Games etc don't have any news on a re-stock
Worst comes to worst, you could always order it now, and then send >G a message to change your shipping address when you know your new one.
So, I do have Tactics and there is a conecction between Cosmic and Tactics. The purple crystal is an artifact in Tactics, part of a set of colored gems that seem to give great power.
Interesting one of the pictures shows Akash'Bhuta with big purple crystals growing out of her head and back. Which seems to be awesome.
They're giving me an "Infinity Stones" feel, but about half the power of infinite
Yeah, it hasn't been officially stated or anything, but that purple stone has GOT to be an Oblivion Shard.
Wishful thinking but I hope with Gencon over we might get an update on one of the villains from WotC
@GtG
This page was never updated.
I asked Christopher about that purple oblivion shard. My impression was that the purple oblivion shard of tactics and the purple stone that gave Cap Cosmic powers are related somehow, but they are not the same object.
There is probably a slight conection to the cosmic stone that gave Proletariat his powers as well (as per his V5 bio)
I'm sure we're going to see a lot of updates, soon. Right now, though, they're probably recovering from Gen Con. Might even be getting some sleep… Keep in mind that they leave in about a week for PAX Prime, so there will be another pause, then.
But yeah, have patience - they'll be getting back to it as soon and as often as they can. They know we are interested. A comment was actually made at the con that they never expected to get this fast of a response.
I'm sure they have plenty of time.
All they are doing is shipping Tactics, working on WotC, getting Spirit Island ready for Playtesting, working two huge conventions and overseeing the video game stuff. When you consider that there are three of them, that isn't much at all.
Probably spend most of their time writing humorous product reviews on Amazon.com.
It's why it was wishful thinking on my part. I expect they are dragging at best. Regardless of when the next post comes I'm sure it will be worth the wait.
I agree with you! Just writing to also give props to Warehouse Manager Jodie as well as Summer Helper Matt.
Summer Help Matt needs to be a card. With that exact title.
It must happen!
Summer Help Matt is a card. In the anachronistic slang sense of the term.
There's a new stretch goal. At 3000 we get 1 promo card. Any guesses?
I'm going with either Akash'Bhuta or Voss.
https://greaterthangames.com/content/another-promo
Here’s hoping we break that 3,000 preorder threshold, and then some.
I'm thinking a promo for Voss makes the most sense. Though I could see La Capitan as it too but I feel that's more of a stretch.
How about Akash'Bhuta, given the Prime Warden promos?
Full team promos for The Sentinels.
....A man can dream.
(But it's probably Voss)
I don't see Akash'Bhuta having much interest in the Cosmos.
You guys sure it's a villain? Could be another hero as well.
Scholar/KNYFE come to mind as possible heros who would be more than interested in cosmic events.
Apostate/Dawn also strike me as the most likely villains to be interested in cosmic events.
But really, Its going to be Plauge Rat in a space suit
The most likely, in my opinion, are KNYFE and Dawn.
Voss seems the most likely since he went through and invaded planets. However, there are certainly a lot of possibilities. Really I'm just saddened that Plague Rat didn't come to mind when I thought about this it is so obvious.
My guess: Con.
Mine : Omnitron-XI, Cosmic Avenger
Hmm. Given the recent Tactics reveal, this seems unlikely…
According to his bio, the timeline shenanigans allow O-X to still exist, even though one iteration of himself was assimilated. It's possible we'll see him again.
Omnitron-X is one of my favorite heroes. I almost cried when I saw that panel in the Tactics scenario book…
Well, then : Wraith, Space Patrol Agent.
Or Cosmic Unity, The Spark of Creation.
Or Bunker, Herald of Earth ?
Absolute Zero, Warder of Entropy ?
Tempest, intergalactic rebel leader ?
The Scholar, Chillin' in space ?
See what happens to me when I wait for a villain update too long
Or maybe Chrono-Ranger in Mandalorian armor.
Actually, I don't think that's X in the comic.
The back cover reads: "Now, this latest version of Omnitron is incorporating is incorporating the tech and programming of each of the previous versions, learning from its failures." (Emphasis added.)
Then on the inside it reads: "It intends to assimilate all of the caches of its previous programming." (Emphasis added.)
So it's better to assume that said head is not X, but rather part of one of the first four versions of Omintron. And considering IV is an environment, I think it's safe to assume it'll have plenty of heads to spare.
But on the subject of the promo card, while I am eager to see an Omnitron X alt, I'm really hoping that this will be the new Tachyon alt.
Since SotM is a comic book game, shouldn’t GtG reveal new info on Wednesdays?
Well, read V's bio. It basically just states that it ate X.
If the promo is O-X, I hope it is called Zero.
I've heard this claim before, but according to whose bio (and which one)? Omintron-X's bio on sentinelsofthemultiverse.com doesn't say anything like this.
I think this is just referring to the gameplay in the Omnitron-V scenario book. Omnitron-V has already assimilated Omnitron-X at that point, and is now looking for the other bits of itself.
According to Omnitron-V's bio, on the back of its character card.
I think you mean the Omni-Reaper bio.
Omni-Reaper's actually.
Omnitron-V mentions nothing about X... So I assumed you meant Omni-Reaper. And indeed, it does mention X... It says that IV "..spelled one of the greatest threats to the heroes, including the future version of Omnitron itself."; it doesn't actually say it killed/assimilated him, just proved to be "one of the greatest threats". It also implies that other parts of Omnitron came through the time rift, not just those belonging to X, which could possibly become important with VI-IX (and seems to have been with the creation of Omni-Reaper).
It's X in the comic. I pretty much had that confirmed at gencon. Adam was sitting with me as I read them all the first time. He wouldn't give me juicy details, but it's X for sure
This probably will make it more clear (from the back of the card in the Sentinels Tactics box)
So it eats X and in doing so destroys its empathy "chip". It becomes more powerful, but not powerful enough to destroy the heroes so it continued to evolve... eventually figuring out that it is the empathy that give the heroes the edge and decides to add it to himself in the his 10th iteration. Begin time loop.
A very strange loop, indeed. Because V through X should have known it would happen.
But now Omnitron is informed of the errors, they shall be avoided. There will be failsafes on the chip, that will ultimately not prevent the problem as Omnitron is looking at things logically, and empathy is not very logical.
Alternatively, Omnitron X, who would also know the history, could have implemented a wipe of exactly what caused its creation, or even engineered a virus to ensure Omnitron is blind to the consequences.
Or as part of the inevitable upgrade, ot O-X’s final act, it put the decimal place back in the right spot.
As an aside from the Omnitron conversation, there is an interview with Christopher on the most recent Giant Fire Breathing Robot podcast, regarding WotC. Lots of good information, for players and playtesters alike.
And here is a link to it! http://gfbrobot.com/2014/08/20/house-rules-93-talking-wrath-of-the-cosmos-with-christopher-badell/
I never give links, if I can help it. I'm lazy.
But we're lazy too! The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.. or the one.
It's a team effort. One is too lazy to copy-paste the link, the other is too lazy to explain the link. Together, they make magic.
Me? I'm too lazy to click on the link and check out the interview, so I'll just wait for discussion of it in this thread to inform me.
We truly have a great community here. 
Talks about Dok'Thorath, a new environment, Sky-Scraper, Deadline, and Progeny
Also! Captain Cosmic is British.
Edit: There is a mention of Voss and his disappearance, but still no answer as to what happens.
Other Big Points: Deadline is a villain for the Greater Good, and has a big connection to [REDACTED]. Revealing details about Progeny's story would be "telling".
EDIT: Also, there aren't many more products in the SotM line between now and the end(but it sounds like multiple left, at least), and will be more about filling in gaps in the story, including ACTUAL COMIC BOOKS!
The only podcasts I've ever listened to have been board game related podcasts. I had to wait for my wife to run some errands and my daughter to be asleep, but I managed to listen. Very interesting stuff.
Skyscraper sounds really cool mechanically. I don't think anyone predicted she would work the way that Christopher describes her. As for the reveal of new villains:
SPOILERS BELOW
I would guess that Progeny will be The Scholar's nemesis bases on the fact that it changes forms. He talked about Deadline and Warfang (couldn't make out the first name) who are the reptilian and female villains on the WotC box respectively. At first I assumed Warfang would be Skyscraper's nemesis and Deadline would be Captain Cosmic's, but now I think it could be the opposite. IIRC, Christopher mentioned that it's interesting who brings Skyscraper to Earth. I wonder if Deadline brings Skyscraper to Earth as a "herald" (for lack of a better word) and she ends up being the Silver Surfer to his Galactus.
I'm more interested in seeing the setup/cards for Skyscrapper for sure now. I was hoping there was a possibility that she could go small as well as big. Though my thought and some others that her size might be related to your hand size is thrown out the window now.
Her name is Kaargra Warfang.
Also, I have no idea who could have brought Sky-scraper. I would guess Voss, seeing as she is a Thorathian, but I don’t know.
I really am looking forward to playing against Omnitron-I in Omnitron-IV to see the "where'd all my blood go?" interestingness.
McBehrer, you may want to get better about not tipping your playtester hat too much...
Look forward! It will be glorious. The answer to your queery is everywhere, disintigration rays vaporize organic material.
Why do you do this? Just say nothing, man.
If I were to take a random shot at Deadlines nemesis after listening to the Deadlines story, I would guess the Naturalist.
Deadline believes that mankind is is on a path to destruction. The Naturalist was "Michael Conteh was a very well known name in industrial development." But now "The Naturalist now works to protect the environment and the world from those who would destroy or exploit it for their own means." Showing that man can change its ways.
My shot in the dark.
Naturalist has an incap side! It's awesome!
Maybe I misheard, but I'm pretty sure they said it was Deadline who brought Sky to earth
Oh, duh. The incap does hint heavily on a connection. I was just going off of narriatives and research, didn't think to look at the pretty pictures. Though I'm glad my detective work and reasoning lead me to the same connection a simple card flip would have revealed.
Wow just made me notice how the power set of a shapeshifter actually is in of itself also a telling sign of the capacity for change (More the symbolic of it).
Yea, I do enjoy how well thought out the plot/connections/symbolisms are. Makes it fun to research and theorize what the next hook is.
Edit:
i can see the battle playing out like...
Deadline: Mankind is on a path of destruction, even you "heroes" cannot deny this. I, regrettably, must put a stop to all of this in order to avoid it.
Naturalist: It is true, mankind has it's faults. I have my own history of failure, but Deadline, man CAN change! *Morphs into a rhino"
the battle would be a hard one with Deadline looking like he's coming out on top, but instead of the outcome being won by violence, the Naturalist enters a series of flashbacks and monologues about his backstory that eventually convince Deadline that his current path isn't the only way to curb the impending destruction.
I'm a bit apprehensive about Dok'Thorath, largely because The Block wasn't very good. Very frequently when playing in The Block, the Environment kind of cancels itself out, and it would be a shame if that happened with Dok'thorath.
Silver Gulch, The Block and Dok'Thorak all have similar themes, the heroes fighting the villain while a fight goes on around them. The execution for each is different enough to make it work. It is nice to have a few options for low-maintenance environments.
You and me both. I don't always think to look at all the incap sides and I've never been incapacitated while playing the Naturalist so I've never seen his. I'll have to go check it out.
From the podcast:
"is related specifically to one of the villains, and that villain's name is Kaargra Warfang."
My guess is Kaargra Warfang brought Sky-Scraper to Earth, solely based on the fact Christopher said so.
I was multitasking. I must have misheard what he said. Man, I'm 0 for 2 in this thread.
Quote of the podcast, "If you play one of the villain Omnitrons in the environment Omnitron, it's going to be WAY HARD...I've had a lot of the Playtesters be like, "I thought it would be fun to against Omnitron inside of Omnitron. It was fun, but in that "oh my god, where's all my blood" kind of way."
My favorite line was when we learned IL's true motivation: to steal your lunch money.
I got a kick out of learning about the not-kind, not-gentle side of Tempest.
Ronway really likes a British character!
Also, yay, another British character!
It sounded like Kaargra was going to be the next villain spotlight during the pre-order event, which would be fantastic. (Any time now, guys...)
There's a decent number of playtesting secrets revealed in hat podcast, which is cool.
People can start to get an idea how insanely cool Sky-Scraper is. My new favorite hero.
@Chromium_man & Foote: though, in all fairness, if we drew conclusions from incaps alone K.N.Y. F. E.'s would be misleading... But with Naturalists backstory as a direct contrast to Deadlines' point of view + incap + Naturalists' lack of a true nemesis yet: I believe I can safely draw a conclusion.
Wow, was I ever off in my predictions about Sky-Scraper...so much for hand size = hero size! That's okay, though. The mechanism described in that podcast sound really cool too, especially the idea of a tiny-sized hero becoming a Saboteur!
The way Christopher described it, she is a saboteur. Her size-changing is secondary.
Just out of curiosity, is her name officially Skyscraper or Sky-Scraper? Some of the playtesters are spelling it one way, some the other....?
See, the way I understood it, her mechanical party role changes based on her size. When tiny, she's a saboteur. When giant, she's a beat-stick. When normal sized, she's more versatile. At any size, though, she's a resistance fighter against Voss.
It's Sky-Scraper.
In game mechanics, yes. In character, as Greywind described, she's a saboteur. She also happens to have size-changing abilities. (And really, saboteurs can do their work by smashing things, right? )
If it works by tossing wooden shoes into the machinery, then as long as it gets broke, it works.
Fine. Fine!! I'll listen to the podcast...
She can get her sabo on at any size, but as you can imagine, she is particularly effective at the more subtle sabotages when tiny.
Ah, so what I'm inferring is: it's similar to the naturalist, yet slightly different.
she can play her sabotage cards at any size (and probably her big hit cards as well), so her hand is never useless. But similar (and different) to how the naturalists has additional effects from the card if he is in the particular form, Sky-Scraper instead has increased effects from the card if she is in a certain size.
example: nat one shot, naturalist does X. If nat is in form A then he also does Y.
sky one shot, sky does X. If sky is in size A then she adds N to X.
Maybe she has something like "sabotage" cards (or whatever keyword) and her different character cards have powers that interact with these keywords differently. For instance, her miniature character card has a power that destroys equipment based on the number of "sabotage" cards that are out (or in the trash, or discarded), whereas her normal size card is more of a scout and allows her to draw cards based on the number of sabotage cards, and then her giant card has her deal damage based on the number of "sabotage" cards out.
Ha. You guys were right!! Speculation IS fun!!
I don’t want to be too specific, having not heard the podcast yet, but despite the initial similarities, she plays almost NOTHING like the Naturalist. She is actually even more changey and less stagnant than he is, and that’s saying something.
I must say I am quite late to the SotM party. Purchased the core set almost 2 weeks ago and have at least 8 solo plays under my belt.
Since purchase and playing, this game has “fired” all other games at my table.
I have only played against Baron Blade and Omnitron. Want to defeat all 4 core villans at all 4 different environments before adding expansions to my options. And yes, I have purchased Vengence, Root City/Relics, The Scholar, and pre-ordered WotC (after having 1 play under my belt, I’m #1692). I have asked my LGS to get me the Unity and Silver Gultch mini expansions, too (buy local).
So, having been written, I can paitently wait for this expansion to be produced. Between now and Dec, I should play a lot more and not run out of options or combinations or permutations.
Looking forward to seeing more stretch goals hit. Happy with what we have now.
The only things you will be missing then are Shattered Timeline, Ambuscade, Miss information, and the FInal Wasteland. Almost there!
Christopher mentions that she plays very differently than the Naturalist or Bunker (but didn't say how).
Finally got round to listening to the Podcast thingy. I am guessing that the mention of Captain Cosmic being "British" more speficially means "English"? Because I believe our full name is something like "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", thus "Britain" includes Scotland and Wales as well (so CC isn't the first Brit because Knyfe was there first ;)). Anyway, it's cool hearing all the stuff I didn't know…though having already had sneaky access to the new heroes and villains (don't think the environments were available at the time) via playing with a playtester, some of what was discussed was stuff I was already aware of.
I'm guessing from the references to "zomg Omnitron in Omnitron IV is really hard", coupled with the fact that we know Omni-IV is basically a drone factory, probably means that there are cards which affect everything with the "Drone" keyword or something. Like an ongoing which is a drone upgrade and gives all drones +1 damage and/or +1 soak or something. There has been no mention of any benefits to Omni-10 so I'm guessing that there is no mass component-helping card which he could gain from as well. Oh, eek, what about device-helper cards too. Like, "bring all devices from their respective trashes into play", the round after you manage to narrowly destroy the second EPE before it went off. Nooooo…
Anyway, it's cool hearing Christopher talking about this stuff. It doesn't come across as "I'm a game designer, so this is me talking about the stuff I want you to buy so my company makes money and then I can make more stuff for you to buy", but more like "Omg look at this really cool stuff I made, it's like a really cool story with characters and omg there's all this cool stuff that happens and…what? You like it too? Cool, here, we're making loads more and when you've got all of it you can see all the coolness that we already know about but can't tell you because spoilers and omg isn't this fun?!?!? Oh yeah, and because you like my stuff you can have some free stuff because I like free stuff and it means I get to make more stuff in order to give it you for free and oh by the way please keep telling me all the cool stuff you're doing with the cool stuff I made because I think that's really cool when you do! <explodes with enthusiasm/excitement overload>" :D.
Careful, Ameena. In my experience, "No true Scotsman" wants to be referred to as British.
The pre-order announcement for him mentions that his home town is Huntingdon. It's in the eastern part of England, near Cambridge.
I'd say "British" is a fair cop.
Though I suppose that could be a matter of cultural perception. For me, "British" specifically means "from England". Whereas someone from one of the other parts of the UK would be Welsh, Irish, or Scottish.
I can't wait for Omnitron IV.
In my 6v2 variant games that my group like to play one of our favorite scenarios is playing against Omnitron and Cosmitron in Wagner Base while they are trying assimilate Omnitron-X. So it's basically a race to defeat the two Omnitrons before they fulfill the required steps to Omnitron-X one of their own (he is an incapped NPC in that scenario) I imagine we will have to update it to somehow fit Omnitron-IV into it... without making it TOO hard (it's already pretty damn tough as it is).
I'm hoping we get another update this week. Especially after that podcast I'm even more curious about the backstory for any of the villains.
Less then 200 more preorders until another Promo. I'm still going with Voss as the promo
I really want it to be Voss, but any hero or villain would do. But really I’d prefer to get a WotC update, I’d love to hear more than what was on the giant fire breathing robot podcast.
I'd agree. More people are likely to see the updates posted on the site not a podcast on a different site.
I don't do podcasts.
I don't like tomatoes.
Then don't do a bad act.
I just had a terrible glimpse of the future. We are going to only reach 2999 pre-orders when it comes to a close.
Speak not of such things. That's like standing on a mountain during a rainstorm while wearing copper armor and cursing the gods.
Yeah but that guy turned out fine. I think all the damage was done long before he decided to do that.
And I would hope that the wonderful people would just grant us that last sweet promo, since they are so awesome and everything :D.
Did that vision of the future take into a count the fact that you would post about it here and thus compell me to purchase one more copy?
Yes. It was really at 2998, you brought it up to 2999.
I'm finally jumping into this thread and saying what I have to say (and haven't already said in comments on posts) about all the information we now have.
1. Christopher's personality, as demonstrated in the podcast, brings me great joy. He clearly hasn't "gone corporate" at all; he's a total goober who's absolutely thrilled to have found an audience, not because he loves the attention but because he likes making others happy and creating something that they really like.
2. I couldn't help but notice that Prime Wardens Fanatic has an extremely prominent, er, pelvic area. It makes it a bit difficult for me to pay attention to the rest of her art. (Not in a sex-pervert sense, but just like a what-the-hell-is-she-wearing-with-a-figure-like-that-and-posing-in-such-a-way kind of reaction.)
3. Omnitron-IV is awesome. I said that already in comments, and others have said it here, but it bears repeating.
4. Deadline, Progeny, and Kaargra Warfang. That's 3 of the 4 villains we have names for, and assuming that Progeny is the guy on Reveal the Flaws (which seems sensible to assume), we've also seen them all. That means one villain remains who's a complete mystery. Maybe, just maybe, it's Captain Cosmic's evil brother?
5. We now know that one environment is Dok'Thorak, while the other is almost certainly that alien arena. I'm a little dissapointed that we won't have the ability to fight actually in space, with zero gravity and zero air and so forth; I was figuring one environment would probably be an asteroid belt or the wreckage of a destroyed planet or something. But oh well.
6. Sky-Scraper is really interesting to think about, given the reveal that she has multiple character cards for her sizes. Since these all have different Powers, I'm guessing that she'll use cards to change, essentially being the opposite of the Naturalist in that regard. Thusly, you might have cards like "Sky-Scraper becomes Huge, then deals one target 5 melee damage", or "Prevent the next 3 damage that would be dealt to Sky-Scraper; when damage is prevented this way, she becomes Tiny". It's also neat that her incap powers will differ depending on what size she was when she fell; I'd imagine that if she dies Huge, she offers large amounts of damage reduction by virtue of the idea that the heroes can literally hide behind her body. Whereas if she's defeated while Tiny, maybe she's shrunk to microscopic size and hiding in the villain's ear canal, so she can disturb his balance and reduce the damage he deals by 1 per instance, rather than protecting specific heroes from big heavy hits.
I think that is probably Progeny. It has the same forehead symbol, and definitely gives off the impression of a nigh-unbeatable boss.
Due to her personal morality, her hips are obligated to tell the truth.
Great, now thats all i can see.
What I want to know is what the heck happened to Absolution. That sword has seen better days
Critical Multiplier on Truth happened to Absolution, possibly another turning point for Fanatic but that is discussed more thouroughly in Sentinels Comics forum.
For those of you keeping score at home, we need just over 100 more preorders to get another promo card.
The counter increased by 1 since Foote last posted (45 minutes).
At that rate we will reach 3000 in a little over 3 days! (105*45=4725 minutes=78.75hours=3.28 days!)
Hopefully we get an update about WotC itself on the preorder blog before we hit 3000. I'm anxious to get some backstory on a villain.
Also consider the other conventions coming up. pax prime will bring in more people as well.
99 copies of Wrath to be sold, 99 copies of Wraaaaaaaath
You'll have my pre-order on the 29th, once I get my first paycheck from the new job! :D
75 more preorders to go
By the time I wake up in the morning I'm sure we will have less than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYWT4uYOPvs copies left to go to the promo
25 more copies for those of you keeping score at home
I would love to see another update besides the promo this week but with PAX coming up I dont know if that will happen
Same here. My hope is that it will get more updates once PAX is over and continue to be updated some what regularly until they can finally ship it out.
I'll be putting in an order for at least 9 copies after PAX.
There are new images for WotC at http://gfbrobot.com/2014/08/26/board-game-news-roundup-sentinels-scum-and-championships/
I'd embed the images here but it does not like working from an ipad
Oh wow, that second image seems to be Progeny based on how he was described in the podcast. The art is amazing and I think I can make out the alchemy symbol from the big dude on Parse's card
It's the (hopefully not) final countdown!
DA DA DA DA, DA DA DA DA DA … DA DA DA DA, DA DA DA DA DA DA DA
10!
7!!!
We're ordering together,
But still it's ten less
And maybe we'll hit target,
Two thousand, maybe less?
I guess there is someone to blame
Ronway for seeing a future time
Will things ever be the same again?
It's the final countdown...
We're heading for the Cosmos and still we stand tall
Cause maybe Voss has seen us and he will crush us all
With not so many expansions to go, and [redacted] to be found
I'm sure that we'll all miss the multiverse so.
It's the final cowwwwwwwntdowwwwwwwn...
You think the Cosmos have so much wrath because of the low pre-orders?
I wouldn't say it was low; it's already much more than Shattered Timelines!
If it is lower than a stretch goal, it is low. Also, 5 left!
FIVE!
So close... I really hope it's the new Tachyon card.
I'd be shocked and amazed if Greater Than Games gut punched Handelabra on an exclusive like that. It'd be pretty sour business. I want a Super Scientific Tachyon as much as every other Paul, Maia, and Dana out there, but I'd be a bit disappointed in them if they crumpled like that over a bit of fan dissonance.
That being said I'd totally be down for a third Tachyon promo card.
By that logic, don't they also gut punch their fans whenever they give promos away for any reason at all?
Besides, Handelabra Games has had a very unprofessional representative trolling these boards recently, so who's really doing the gut punching?
As far as trolling goes, you’re confusing migrantp and yourself.
I don't think you understand the definition of trolling; acting in a rude, inflamatory manner is usually considered trolling on the internet. Asking people to act calm, civil, and respect one another is... Pretty much the exact opposite of trolling. If anything, I'd be considered an anti-troll.
Their representative has basically pulled the equivalent of Microsoft's "Deal with it." guy when the XBox One was first announced. If you think it's trolling to ask that PR be done respectfully, please remove yourself from this conversation and take time to think over what you have said.
We will know the additional promo in due time. No reason to bring up the discussion about what is fair for promos again.
The clue is that this character is very interested in the cosmic events, I don't see Tachyon being much more invested than any other hero.
I think it is Voss, it really makes sense as he would know a lot about the different sides involved and the environments.
Also, seriously, we are due.
Agreed; whatever it is, we'll likely know sometime tomorrow.
4!!!!
Now we play the waiting game.....The waiting game sucks, let's play Hungry, Hungry Hippos.
3!!!
You are delusional beyond rational if you think you are an "anti-troll". A post above that you accuse the company of gut punching costumers. Explain to me how that isn't blatantly inflammatory? And not only is it inflammatory, but it is also baseless, fueled only by your sense of entitlement . It's like my 5 year old nephew throwing a tantrum in the toy store because I won't buy him that new Lego set that he "deserves". How do you expect MigrantP, or any other professional adult for that matter, to respond to that kind of attitude?
The anti-troll. Hilarious. Stop complaining and print your missing promos like the rest of us (myself included)
My hope is that the promo is "The Ranger", in his TARDIS with the Chameleon Circuit stuck on "Stout Barrel". His Power could be something like "Scour Time and Space: Reveal cards from your deck until you reveal a Bounty card. Put that card into play, shuffle the others back into your deck, and Chrono-Ranger deals himself X psychic damage, where X is 1 for every 2 cards reshuffled this way."
2!!!!
Everyone please stop discussing trolling in this thread (and perhaps anywhere). If you have a beef with anyone, send a message to the mods (arenson9, Rabit, imprimis5).
Didn't you know that CR's middle initial is Cooper?
Over 3000!
But… is it over 9000?
Yes. Didn't you know that by signing up you agree to by three copies?
Target reached !
The terrible update deprivation will soon end !
Now, let's hope Wraith finally discovers which villain has been stealing normal updates.
Maybe not. This might not be updated until after PAX.
Fairly certain it won't be. But I'm famous for being wrong. Maybe I will be again.
Surely Christopher has this entry prepped and ready, surely Adam has already done the art, surely Paul drove them like a task master to make sure this happened.
SURELY THEY BELIEVED IN US!
WHAT OVER 9000!
That's me, always an optimist.
How do you know Adam has the art done? This extra promo might be totally unplanned at this time. He could be finishing it at the hotel room at night during PAX. You never know.
Anyway, I'd be very surprised to hear anything until at least 2-3 days after the convention is over. Those things are exhausting!
I was just being hopeful and joking.
There’s no real way to convey that through text, excluding emoticons, and I refuse to use emoticons.
Im thinking he was just visited by the optimism fairy and wants that to be true very badly (true of us all, i think)
Surely the other WotC reveals are prepped as well. Just click that Post button already. Surely all the villains/heroes/environment will be revealed before the pre-order closes.
Goes back to waiting
Beware! You have just earned the ire of a mod!
I use this quote so much in real life, and most people don't get it.
3028!
That's 28 more than 3000! That means 28 people wont be getting promos, if you get one it's because >G secretly think you're awesome. 
GTG are doing PAX Dev as well, so they're pretty busy.
That's okay, I'm sure that update is coming any second now.
I'll just be sitting here hiting refresh until it does.
I say each person takes watch for an hour, then PM everyone when it's updated.
It's funny. They go off to these conventions with the campaigns and goals still running and ticking up up up up... and guess what? We hit them as they go out the door. HAHA!
Should have another convention scheduled next weekend so we can hit the goal for them as they head out the door.
Now to play the waiting game. Scratch that, I'm going to play SotM. ;)
It sure beats Hungry Hungry Hippos. ;-)
If you preorder at all, you get all the stretch bonuses listed, right? Just want to be clear.
Yes.
minus 84 copies of Wrath to be sold, minus 84 copies of Wraaaaaaaath
Finally, at long last, I got my preorder in! Yay for getting paid from my new job!
Oh crap now we will never get that promo revealed http://t.co/vrNb4mCbr9
That may be my favorite Baron Blade cosplay that I’ve seen.
That's none other than lateralis, president and CEO of Handelabra Games =)
Shouldn't you be conventioning? How do you have time to post here?
Also, how's it going? What kind of reception is the video game getting?
Oh wow. I didn't even recognise that was Jeremy until you said it. He makes a good Blade. Next con, I want him in a kilt, though.
That headline is a lie.
They are just setting up the new Promo:
"Cosmic Mad Artist Adam"
Well, we haven't had any zombie heroes yet so...
Kilts all round!
I think the only way you could negotiate that is by putting on a hat.
DW Mr Fixer is a resurrected Mr Fixer does that count?
Seriously, I ask the same question. I'm not sure how he does it…
Honestly, you would not believe how awesome that costume was. He really looked the part. Even went so far as to get a contact to make his eye look blind. The lights glowing from the goggles up into his face gave him a great, ominously-evil look, too. It was awesome!
There are 5 milliseconds in between when I get to my hotel room and when I fall asleep. In those 5 milliseconds, I can post to the forum, fix some bugs, and check the weather for tomorrow.
It's going really well! Over a thousand people have tried the game and there's still a day to go. The response is overwhelmingly positive, which gives me all the feels. We're getting lots of useful feedback and suggestions. The main constructive criticism is that players familiar with Sentinels want it to go faster - skipping dialogs, faster animations, etc. And we're totally gonna let you do that =). The demo is slowed down a bit because at PAX we also have a lot of people brand new to Sentinels, and we have to try to teach them a little bit about the game in a very short amount of time.
Thanks for posting the pic.
I spot Christopher, Adam, Paul's hand (maybe?), Rabit, and MigrantP.
He's wearing his Legacy Ring so I'd say that is Paul's hand.
So, it's over 3,500 now. A new stretch goal for reaching 500 more, right?! Obviously, it should be that the game is now boxed with Mr. Chomps-shaped packing peanuts. You're welcome, >G, for this apparent choice.
I hope to see an update today but I expect today/tomorrow will be traveling and recovery time from PAX. I think they need to reveal the last promo before their preorder ends as that could see an increase in orders before it ends.
Also, the tall gentleman running the demo at the first table (facing left, arms crossed) is Donner. (Also, the gentleman playing the demo with the goatee and glasses is his twin brother, Jim.)
We really did have a great time and things went wonderfully.
I also see me! =D
Yeah, when I tried out the demo it was so awesome. Can't wait to see the finished product =D
I'm pretty sure his name is Evil Donner.
Copies of Wrath of the Cosmos Sold += 9
Paul and Christopher are posting today any chance we see an update regarding the Promo or WotC? 
Some reveals would be nice.
We are knocking on the door of 4k preorders!
And we havn't even seen the 3k promo yet!
Almost 4000!!! 
I imagine they're working on it. I can't speak for the GTG folks, but I know I didn't recover from PAX until today (and it's still a little questionable). It was a great time, but really exhausting. I'd be willing to bet we'll see something by end of day today.
And keep in mind they actually have to create the new promo - they didn't have it in their queue, waiting, so they had to create art, a power, etc. (At least that's the impression I have from their previous post; I could be wrong. 
)
If we're lucky, they even had time to test out the new power…
Yeah I'd like to see some reveal before the preorder ends. Hopefully with the cons over for a while we will get some daily posts.
You are not wrong…
Wait, what? Where?
(Who are you? 
)
This was my impression as well Rabit.
I'm still amazed it has almost reached 4000 and will likely go beyond that before the preorder ends.
For those keeping score at home:
We are at 3990!
Agreed - especially given that the previous SotM Kickstarter had 2,147 backers and the Sentinel Tactics Kickstarter had 2,175.
Welp folks! We are OVER 4k PREORDERS!
Good work team! Start cracking that whip Paul, your printer has a lot of work ahead of them
Hey, I just pre-ordered, do I qualify for all the goodies too?
Yes you do.
Had I been into SotM at the time, I would have done the Sentinel Tactics Kickstarter. Sadly, I am 4 months late to that party… 
But not to the current, ending party! 
And the promo is now up!
https://greaterthangames.com/content/last-day-of-the-preorder
Wooo!
Promo yeah!
Hoping for a villain promo but I like the variant for KNYFE as it might get some of my friends to give her another chance.
I wonder looking at KNYFE further how much interaction she has had with the Captian Cosmic and the PWs altogether. We've at least seen pictures of KNYFE and Captain Cosmic fighting the same green men.
Aw yeah, another K.N.Y.F.E. Interesting to find out that Paige has the knowledge to retrofit the suit herself, not just a adroit at stabbing things!
There is a hint of KNYFE's interest in cosmic events in KNYFE's bio:
she began her search for the temporal crossroads which drew the lines of the Multiverse closer with each cosmic event.
It serves as a good reminder that the bios actually contain a lot of neat information.
TL;DR
id be one of those people, so while not my first choice… I'm happy bout the promo. KNYFE is my least favorite hero deck, so hopefully this will make her more enjoyable for me.
Is it bad that I'm most excited for her haircut out of all of this? Because that look is pretty amazing.
I for one am glad it's not a villain, just because that would have given us an odd number of villain promos. Very happy to get an alternate version of a previously single-character-card hero. (I wonder if there will eventually be one for every hero; I find it hard to picture how the Naturalist could work with no Transform power, for instance.)
Yes, yes it is bad.
I went back to the page just now and could only see the top of her head. "What is Argent Adept doing on K.N.Y.F.E.'s card?" I said to myself, before realising my mistake.
Perhaps they just went to the same salon.
We could have an interesting promo where he is just discovering his powers and therefore cannot change at will, not sure what kind of a power he would need to counteract being hamstrung by luck of the draw on his animal forms though. Possibly a "bottom of a deck" mechanic involved somehow?
I can now sleep soundly seeing that the promo has been revealed.
Thank you!
Called it.
I am definitely a fan of this haircut. Right there with you, Reckless.
Agreed!
Rabit, you like anything that has less hair.
Well… 
I suppose I might be over-compensating… 
Or you might be jealous of the hairlessness! 
You could play against someone like La Capitan who proceeds to steal all the Naturalist's form cards.
The WotC pre-order now has more backers than the ST & ST Kickstarters combined. And there's still half an hour left!
4481! Just 5519 from the big reveal of Cursed Acoylte's lower half.
Congrats >G!
Isn't the Cursed Acolyte a face card? If so, doesn't the bottom half just look like the upper half looking in the opposite direction?
Maybe it'll be sort of like Unity having to user her power to play her golems usually. Something along the lines of:
Unstable Form
Power: Play a card from your hand and choose a form icon on that card. You are considered to have that form until the end of this turn (or maybe start of the next turn).
It would still let him get effects out of a lot of his cards without having a form out, but at the expense of using his power for the turn. Could even result in some interesting combos like having one form out but using the effect of a different form on a one shot.
So if there had been 19 more preorders, would we have got another promo card?
We also found it hard to picture how Mr Fixer could work with no Strike power before DW Fixer came around.
"Salty Transform?"
Why not?
I found out last night that my wife hadn't read the link I sent her on the first day of the preorder and hadn't done it yet. :( (This was really strongly hinted at as a Christmas present.)
Powers that be: is there any chance of an extra one getting snuck in on Monday if contacted directly?
I'd reach out to Jodie at warehouse@greaterthangames.com
Yeah, but that's because Overdrive mentioned Strike by name; That's not the problem with Naturalist, his relience on changing forms is. It's a different source for the issue, so -- while it's the same issue -- the solution would have to be different.
I actually thought of much the same thing; play a card, and activate a symbol on it if you are not already in a form.
I was thinking something different: Discard a card, search for a form with a symbol on that card. You may use a power now.
I think ideas like that would seem too much like "different simply for the sake of being different". I'd rather that, if he's to have a new power at all, it was just something like "Scout: Draw four cards, then put two cards from your hand on top of your deck and two on the bottom." That would help him find form cards, but it would also make him more generally effective even while living without a Form, to the point that staying human all game might well be viable.
Pfft. You guys and needing to get The Naturalist into a form. I have seen him played without ever getting a form into play, so he isn't as reliant on being an animal as you folks let on.
I feel like it could be justified; maybe something happened to his powers ("Do not put too much trust in your powers, for powers are tools, and all tools can fail" -- The Naturalist, Natural-born Vigor) and he can only partially transform. Like Kehrolyn from BattleCon. The playing cards and activating triggers represents him taking on ASPECTS of that creature, rather than the full form, and it balances itself fairly well. An extra card each turn in place of the passives of the form, and being able to activate triggers from a form you aren't in would help to neutralize the issue of feeling like the cards from a form you aren't in are dead cards.
Here's what I'm thinking:
Unstable Form
Select one of the following: [gazelle symbol] [rhino symbol] [croc symbol]
Until the start of your next turn, you may activate the chosen symbol as if you were in that form.
At the end of your turn, destroy all form cards.
That reduces the side effects of not being able to retrieve your forms, being that you would just stick in Rhino or Crocodile the whole time with no drawbacks.
If you could decide to be in a Form as your innate power, you'd only ever be able to use the Form-specific parts of powers (Natural Form's Power, for example) if you had Natural-Born Vigour out, or someone else let you use a power. Actually, you wouldn't even be able to use the Form-specific parts of one-shots either, because the effect (of "pretending" to be in a form) would be gone before you reached your next Play phase ;).
That's a pretty bad power considering you have to either be able to use two powers to make use of it or rely on someone else to allow you to play a card, highly restrictive either way.
Better if it is "until the end of your next turn", like Expat's Aim. It's all about adaptability or (to entirely misuse it, even if it is more in theme for the Naturalist) evolution.
EDIT: Ninja'ed!
Fine, end of next turn then. Otherwise the post still stands.
Yeah, "end of next turn" is better - then you can properly take advantage of it :).
So, a question for Christopher if he's willing to answer it. Was Rogue Agent Knife always meant to exist (as I assume Guise was intended to exist at least since Vengeance came out - even if there was a risk his printing would be aborted, he was at least part of the original plan)? Or did you create her specifically because of this unlock (as with Super-Science Tachyon)?
Rogue Agent KNYFE was always meant to exist. As was Super-Scientific Tachyon. It was merely a matter of WHEN those cards became available.
These two quotes would appear to exist in contradiction to each other…
Doesn't mean she wasn't meant to exist. Just that events would have conspired to remove her from the timeline. Personally, I blame the Dark Visionary.
Or that SS Tachyon was always intended to go with the game.
Just the other day I noticed something interesting on the cover of the Freedom Four Annual #1. http://sentinelsofthemultiverse.com/comic
Think in the case of SST, he was saying it would not exist right now if not for the cross promotion, not that it would never exist.
Now I just wonder how many alt character cards we will have by the end.
Yeah, Rogue Agent KNYFE got moved up from being a thing we do in a year or two, to something we're doing now.
As many as we can get our hands on?
I wonder while Christopher is in a question answering mood if we’ll be getting a WotC update soonish.
A year or two? So two more expansions?
In the comment section for the Wrath of the Cosmos preorder, they mention that the plan is another couple years. Considering the frequency of expansions, I'm guessing that means 1-2 more expansions after Wrath of the Cosmos.
However, based on the size of the Vengeance box, it looks like it will hold the Vengeance decks, plus 5 more hero decks, 9 more villain decks, and 4-5 more environment decks (they're skinny). So, it'll fit the cards from Wrath of the Cosmos and the expansion after it. If there's two more expansions after wrath, then they'll need a bigger box (especially if they close out with another mega-expansion like Vengeance).
There will be another mega-expansion.
Ahh, but then there will be empty space in that box and how are we going to fill it!?
The last expansion will come with a bust of Christopher that has a chia beard. That should fill up the remaining space.
The Mega Expansion will be a suitcase within which you can store every piece of Sentinels merchandise available including the playmat and T-shirts.
Don't forget the Mr. Chomps plushie and the fully-functional life-sized all-hyphens-included Omni-Cannon.
It should probably have room for 3 Mr. Chomps.
That's how many Unity has in her deck, right?
This just in: The Sentinels Big Box sighted in the >G warehouse!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Seriously, Mezike, how did you get that spy picture?! I thought their security was tighter than that...
(That's awesome!)
I hear Jodie can be bribed with very hot peppers and coffee.
That makes for some rather nasty coffee.
I must have slipped in to an alternative dimension, the one I came from had the Wrath pre-order counter at 4481, in this dimension the counter reads 4482.
Can anyone tell me if it rains tacos in this dimension?
Maybe, as I saw it listed at 4480 just yesterday
No, we just get raining ice cream every now and then. The raining taco dimension is about three dimensions northeast of here.
When I was having trouble placing my preorder, I was told that since it was clear I was attempting to place an order before the event ended, they could add me in even if the trouble persisted thereafter. That being said, I was able to get things resolved before that, so that's not mine, but I'm guessing someone was having a similar dilemma.
If you don't keep a close eye on them, they breed.
Tacos, delimas or preorders?
Yes
I was really hoping for a character update this week with the GtGs folk recovered from the cons. 
The preorder count is 4486 now.....
Still no updates.....? Back in Kickstarter days, we got updates every Tues and Thurs.
Here's a thought, I hope GtG comes back with a surprise update that says "Hey! Thanks for waiting this long! As an appreciation for your patience, here's a shiny new super secret promo card!" *YEAH*
Like they haven't given enough already...
"Enough" isn't the point, if they don't want people to point out they're not doing something, perhaps they shouldn't say they're going to do it?
From the blog
"While a preorder is running, we will post daily updates on week days."
We got 9, of 23 and one of those was "Hey, it's over" which would extend the number of updates to 24.
I love what the >G guys and girls do for us and (think I) know how hard they work for us to get the game out to us, never mind all those lovely extras as well, but I never take anything they say regarding a timeline seriously, it's either ridiculously padded (to our benefit) or ignored for more important things (which I'm also good with).
Then why even worry about it?
I don't know I would call it worry. I'm just excited to learn more about the characters in the expansion and more artwork
I want more character info too.
For everyone.
Especially the Hippo.
The Hippo is the true center of the Multiverse.
The Hippo swallows the Multiverse - that's how the timelines are fixed.
Everything needs more Hippo.
Preorders is now at 4490.
A villain revealed? Awesome!
Deadline may have my favourite backstory of any villain yet.
His story has to be key for what is coming after this expansion. something is coming that he feels is worth nearly wiping out our planet to prevent. Something wicked this way comes.
That backstory is awesome on many levels. We know he is worried about the big bad coming so much that he'll wipe us out just to prevent it and that we have a group called the Enclave of Endlings. I wonder what Tempest thinks about that group since I imagine they had some contact with him after Voss wiped out his planet.
In the far, far future, will Jansa attempt to add Haka to the Enclave of the Endlings?
Maybe Jansa has already made a start? The true source of Haka's immortality is still a mystery isn't it? Could Haka have been offered immortality as he died in the desert, yet unaware of his pact with Jansa when he regained consciousness the following morning?
On another note, consider the timeline that ends with the Final Wasteland, Con's Bunker and Haka of Knowledge. Is this a timeline where Deadline is successful at driving Humanity back to the dark ages, thus avoiding the attentions of Jansa? Or a timeline where both Deadline and Jansa are defeated, Humanity descends into an extinction event, and only Haka is left? Or a timeline where Jansa destroys Humanity but Haka somehow survives the Terminarch's clutches (or has returned to Earth as an Endling in the same way that Deadline left the enclave)?
According to Con, the Final Wasteland came about when Plague Rat's infection got out of control and took out the human population to the extent that all the gribbly monsters came out of hiding and decided to take the planet for themselves. That's why there're Rat Beasts - they're the "descendants" of Plague Rat.
Jansa is the Big Boss? Deadline turns hero in the last expansion? :D
I don't think Jansa is a villain. I think he's a good guy; he doesn't make species extinct, he preserves their memory by saving one of them, and keeps them immortal in the Enclave.
Also, do we know if Jansa is male or female? I keep referring to him as male, but the name seems a bit feminine (it's pronounced YAN-sa Vee DARE-o) so whatever.
I really like Deadline's backstory, though. I can't wait to see Progeny's and Kaargra's. And the last, mystery villain.
Deadline is very cool, but we already knew most of this stuff from Adam's discussion of him in the GFBR podcast; about all we actually gained from this update was some art, the name of his species, and mention of the Enclave and Jansa. I'm not complaining really, but I'd much rather have found out what Kaargra's deal is or gotten some info about the fourth villain (Progeny we know almost as much about as Deadline, though he too would have been an improvement, since most of what we know is mechanics and these updates are pretty much all flavor).
I could see Jansa possibly being a bad future villain. Deadline just stole tech from this council and becomes a major threat to Earth. Who's to say that maybe this council isn't part of the reason some of these races are being wiped out or that maybe Jansa doesn't have a more devious reason for gathering those who are last of their race.
Maybe Jansa's intentions are benevolent but at this point anything is possible.
I may be missing out. Will you point me to this podcast?
I think he is refering to when Christopher was on there, but said Adam instead. Here's Christopher's most recent appearance.
http://gfbrobot.com/2014/08/20/house-rules-93-talking-wrath-of-the-cosmos-with-christopher-badell/
Thanks. That one I've heard. I was curious whether Adam did a podcast as well.
Whoops, sorry. Us immortals tend to get names mixed up after meeting several thousand of each, y'know.
To me, Jansa sounds like a collector of species. It may well be that Deadline's actions, which provoke the heroes to defeat him, may lure Jansa to earth in order to protect the loss of a unique species (Deadline) in his collection. Once there, he may well learn of Tempest and the other multiverse heroes, who are each unique in their own right, and try to collect the entire set :-)
A villain update about Kaargra Warfang a few minutes ago.
I think that's actually an environment, but I could be wrong. Think of Kaargra as the environment's Anubis.
No, it's a villain deck, the two environments are different
Hello again, Sentinels fans! Ready for another villain?! Probably not, but she's not going to wait for you to be ready!Christopher really makes it sound like its a villain.
On the Facebook page they already got asked the same thing and confirmed its a villain.
Kaargra's a villain?! I thought she was just misunderstood.
no that's just Deadline
Depends on what you consider wrong and right. Spiff seems to approve of kidnapping folks and forcing them to partake in fights to the death.
This whole time I thought Kaargra was just a reality TV host on a Survivor-type game show. I've been playtesting her deck so wrong...
She's no villain. Those aliens paid good money to be there. "Yes, Mistress Kaargra."
I think it's less "Survivor" and more "Hunger Games" (without the hunger part) ;). I remember playing against this one a while back, it was fun :).
Kaargra Warfang is a noble Leige, valiantly seeking the bravest and most noble knights of the Multiverse to join her at her court. She searches with heavy heart for those brave and virtuous enough to win the hearts of the people and survive the tests she lays before them.
Though many have tried and failed to live up her standards she moves steadily onward, resolute that one day her people will have champions worthy of their loyalty and trust.
And they call her a Villain. . .
Spot on.
Has there been any word yet on when this will be finished up? I figure it's still a ways off...but I was super spoiled by Sentinels Tactics coming out like 4 months early, haha.
It will not be out 4 months early, but is still currently on track to release before the end of the year. We'll keep you updated as it gets closer!
The end of the year is close enough for this fan. I've been annoying friends with new details of villains-to-come for a good amount of time, so far. =) Thanks for all the hard work, and the ever-amazing products!
Is there going to be a release party for it like there was for vengence?
Yes. It's being disguised as a Tactics tournament, though, and WotC won't be out yet.
Don't say that! We want both events!
On the same day.
That makes for a good tangent: we need more people at the tournament!
Is there any chance of finding out a bit about how Captain Cosmic and/or Guise play from either the GtG team or the playtesters? I must confess I'm always interested most in finding out about the new heroes (and remain impressed as to how they all feel quite different from each other).
I know playtesters aren't allowed to discuss them and currently the GtG folks are at Aus Pax. Even if they were here I imagine the best we will get is a character background story until the expansion is released. Though I am big fan of the characters bios.
Captain Cosmic plays a lot like [REDACTED].
Guise does a lot of [REDACTED] and then he'll [REDACTED].
I hope that helps.
You tease.
There are cards involved.
Oops! Revealed too much!
The cards were from very light stock - 20 pounds or so, and in black and white. The corners weren't even rounded. >G will have to up the production values for the final product.
I heard that there are also words and pictures... with colors!!!
Guise starts with a hand of four cards.
Captain Cosmic starts with a hand of three random cards plus another randomly drawn card.
Do they both have decks of about 40? Because that would be too cool.
Yes they do! And each have 1 character card.
Good grief. I'm not sure I can cope with that.
I really hope Ronway is wrong.
You always hope that.
Also.... also.... the cards will be available in English! and can be found in many locations on the 3rd planet from Sol, also known as your Sun!
Unless Galactus gets to it before December...
True. It does happen sometimes.
Thank you to all the helpful playtesters. I'll just wait patiently.
I’ll just wait impatiently.
Captain Cosmic fights with hardened yellow snow. This is so true it hurts.
Guise has a sidekick that is a big secret, most playtesters don't even know about. You see mystical cosmic energy once turned a tasty Indian lentil dish sentient, and it formed a wierd spicy collective right when Guise walked by, it followed him secretly, and still does. In the future he learns of its existence and they form the greatest super hero duo of all time. Guise and Dahls.
Thank you.
lulz. thanks for that.
No, no - thank you. 
Since the pre-order count has incremented marginally after the pre-order period ended (presumably due to orders in limbo having been cleared up), what are the chances that there are still two such pre-orders to get fixed which would get the count up to an even 4500 before the expansion is released?
Are you offering us a wager?
Does it look like I have antennae and blue skin?
Okay, fine. 1,000 smirfbleks.
At least he didn't go for the quatloos.
For one hundred quatloos, who did the captain maroon Ceti Alpha V?
"KHHHAAAAAAAAANNNNN!!!"
What's the Title Deck?
It's the area of the Ship (the new name for the GtG headquarters) that houses all of the titles for their upcoming games and expansions.
It's supposed to be top-secret. How'd you know about that?
An email went out to pre-order customers today requesting final address updates. It includes an image of the contents of WotC, including a divider card that says "Title Deck".
Plus it shows the mini-expansions in blister packs, which is super cool.
I hope I get that email soon.
It's not clear that we are allowed to divulge this yet.
Players are now encouraged to play for pinks. This is where you keep your winnings.
I like the packaging for the mini expansions but was a bit sad that the main power on Guise was too fuzzy to read.
The new mini-expansion packaging is really important. Not only does it look cool, but it prevents them from being bent in the mail or whatnot. I had to request new dividers because of that :(
Seeing some rule changes. Guise's power looks like it changed, although I can't read it because of pixelation. Neutralizing Resonator discards a card instead of putting the top card of the discard under the deck. That's cool. Ocular Swarm looks like it changed, too, but I can't tell what it says... maybe "whenever the heroes destroy a Manifestation card..."? Interesting...
Also, I just want to point out... look at the gameplay text on that 3rd card there. That looks NASTY.
Art looks fantastic, as usual. Looking forward to getting it.
It is awesome. That's all we can tell you right now.
Just enhance the image, it always works in the movies!
What we can deduce from the cards in the image:
Top card is easy, full text is boring for speculation posts.
second card:
"Cortex"
"Play this reduce target at the deals." This clearly reduces the number of targets in play at the start of the game.
third card:
Colo. . . assume it says "Color"
"Switch card sky-dam if." Apparently an indecisive space beaver that has something to do with color.
Scion
"When this deals each then, if the cards in other than Increase." Hmm. . . My guess is that this card increases "all target" damage by the number of targets damaged. Obviously some kind of peer pressure-rebranding theme.
Begining
"Destroy Destroy Destroy" Obviously a clear rip-off of the Dr. Who Serial "Genesis of the Daleks."
The other cards I can't figure out, but that's what we have so far.
Plague Rat in a fancy costume.... Who tamed that beast and why? Or did his human side kick in to make him even more dangerous?
I really wish I could see these pictures!
Ok, so I'm looking at Guise's character card, and it is REALLY hard to make out. Impossible, even. I can barely make out the words "Trump card," MAYBE, in his speech bubble, and "1 melee damage" in his power box. Will require more investigation.
So we finally know the name of Captain Cosmic's brother (at least it pointed that way) as Infinitor. I hope we'll have more dev journal on the characters and environnments that were presented.
Edit: ninjaed so I just removed the images
The main image is actually in quite ridiculously high resolution.
fe803fa8-08f5-4970-ba6f-b877fb38e1f4.jpg
The others are more reasonable:
Dang it, only my last name is visible.
You may not want to inline that image, it's a rather large file.
I like how the health of the Wager Master is at 51: just more than 50:50 :-)
The most important thing is you can read my name in full and not Ronway's or Silverleaf's, huzzah!
EDIT: Dang it! Beaten to it by Pydro while I was gazing at my amazing name.
My name is in there too, plainly visible! Immediately after Ronway, in fact.
Damn it, Matchstickman!
Not true, I can see both my last and first name, they just aren't next to eachother.
*subtly pointing out that Kaargra does not appear to be a target*
My last name is on there, my first name was hidden, too much awsomeness is a hazard to public safety.
Same. Between them, Craig and Hanna have got me covered.
Craig Parsons?
Hey! I can see "Ronway is Banned" in the names! ( the letters just aren't next to each other)
That's the one.
I noticed that too. I appreciate when villians break the norm. This should be interesting.
Not that side at least.
edit: fixed typo.
I can only assume one possibility is that she operates similar to Miss Information, then.
Maybe some type of reverse Dawn. Can only be damaged once so many gladiators are in the trash.
...oh the joys of speculation.
Incredible ground-breaking spoilers:
The flip mechanics are original, and are all really cool, and thematic, or at least almost all of them. Or something. They all flip.
End incredible ground-breaking spoilers.
As for Kaargra Warfang, seriously, when you are in an Arena fighting for the approval of the the arena master and her horde of fans, one might think twice before considering her a target.
That’s how it always works; the heroes, foolishly assuming that she leads because she can’t fight herself, challenge her to a duel… Only to discover that, in reality, she is the best fighter there, and rules by authority of ass-kicking. Or something to that effect.
Seriously, though, i am AGONIZING over Guise. I need to know what his power is! I can ALMOST READ IT
His power is to drive players crazy by almost letting them read what he can do.
Maybe Kaargra enters herself into the arena once she deems you worthy of competition.
Now that would be an awesome!
In one build Kaargra took everyone out for Ice Cream after the fight, no matter who won or lost. I liked that version.
It was ok. It would have been much better if she didn’t choose the flavor for you.
Yeah, she always chose bread flavour, that was the worst.
Youve obviously never had brown bread ice cream then. It's a thing, and apparently delicious.
Kaagra's Dairy Delights: 32 Flavors of Pain.
French pain?
In America it’s Freedom pain.
I think you mean, Victory pain.
Ha, I see what you did there.
I can see my name on that list! It was a hoot being able to show that to a coworker!
So, we actually did something new and different with Guise's innate power: each printed version of Guise comes with a slightly different character card. Some of you will get a Guise who deals damage. Others, a Guise who can heal, or draw extra cards. It all makes sense for Guise, and so rather than containing him to just one innate power, we gave him thousands.
I look forward to everyone comparing notes on all the different innate powers! And remember, keep on saving the MultiGuise!
(These are all lies.)
Christopher, any chance at another character intro soon?
I expect at least one Guise promo card with the following power "You Win…Everything…Also everyone else at the table owes you five bucks"
Fingers Crossed
great. The collector in me just cried. Gonna be hard trying to get all versions of him now. Maybe release a Guise pack containing all versions of his character card? Please?
Edit: just noticed the lies part. Whew.
Maybe use one of Spiff's hp counter cards. Put different powers on the spinner. Random innate every game.
Unless Christopher really isn't joking, and the Title Deck is really the title of all of Guise's powers.
-mindsplosion-
Guise is a mini. Title Deck is part of WotC.
...yeah, good point. Oh well, it was a fun thought.
Bump
While the last email on the pre-order was a joy to see, it has been devoured by my hungry hungry mind. It there any chance for some more WotC-flavoured eyecandy? Please?
Does anybody know when WotC is going to become available for the general public?
For vengeance it was approximately a month after the others had received it and then I picked it up at my local store.
Yes, somebody does.
I find it interesting that Shattered Timelines came back into stock a couple of days ago.
I also find it very interesting that I have seen a picture of a 'standard sentinels deck quality' looking Title Deck being used in game that Christopher was demoing.
Holy crap! And a Captain Cosmic deck!
If I understand correctly, they get some small amount of the product air freighted to them and the rest is shipped via boat. That gives them some product to run demos like what you were looking at while the rest is still on its way.
I could totally be wrong, though.
This picture on twitter gives a bit of a preview of what the Title Deck is pic.twitter.com/vMDLvJZ2EN
In this case Tachyon became “chaos lord”
So I’m guessing the Title Deck is associated with Kaargra Warfang
Hmm. A deck of Titles...maybe something that isn't an Environment or Villain deck that is just a deck of modification cards? Or perhaps an Environment that has targets like a Chaos Lord and a Bloodsword Colossus (if I'm reading that one right) that grant titles to whichever hero (or perhaps the villain too) that defeats it?
Unless I misremember, Christopher took our sole production sample with him to Seattle.
If you are a member of the G+ Greaterthangames unofficial fan community then you would have seen someone posting a link to a news item which shows the front of the Guise blisterpack, you can read his base power in glorious detail!
Just another reason to join the G+ group.
I like that base power
Is this the most recent thread that Foote created?
Added to spoiler sheet!
As a note... I expect to receive WCos as a present at the holidays, and so did not pre-order it personally. Therefore, if it arrives to most pre-orders before then, I will not be working on updating non-public spoilers until after it's officially in my hand.
I havn't made a really good thread in a while. Waiting for WotC to come out and re-look at all the cards. Maybe something will jump out at me that I overlooked during proofs.
So, since I’m apparently the only one who’s seen this:
https://greaterthangames.com/content/the-villain-infinitor-causes-shipping-delay
This is totally a thing that happened.
Can someone explain that special thing? I’m a little confused about how it works…
You print it and give it to whoever you were going to give Wrath of the Cosmos to as a gift, since it won’t be delivered in time for Christmas.
The certificate? It's just a piece of paper to say "Hey, shipping done got messed up, sorry your present isn't here, this is what I got you. Don't hate me."
Sad face. The anticipation commences!
OK. That’s what I thought. It seemed like it was something more. I might just print it to myself!
Thanks guys, sometimes I’m a little stupid
Well, bummer. I guess "it is what it is" as they say.
Given the blog post, I assume that Captain Cosmic's nemesis is Infinitor.
And here I thought I would get to show my son some new awesomeness.
My 8 year old is so used to Greater than Games kickstarter shipping that whenever I tell her that a new SotM game is coming out she says "Did you remember to order in Ann's name?" Ann is her sister.
It is sad, but it seems like a lot of Kickstarters are running into shipping delays right now.
Yeah, all of US shipping is somewhere between "moderately" and "extremely" messed up right now. The absolute worst aspect is ocean imports via West Coast ports, which unfortunately covers the vast majority of imports for the entire tabletop game industry.
Out of sheer curiosity, why doesn't anyone use east coast/gulf coast ports? I realize that coming from China would entail sailing around South America or using the Panama Canal. I have no knowlegde of shipping logistics. Just curious.
It seems like you've answered your own question, though I suppose I am only assuming that the answer is shipping further costs more money, I don't actually know.
Tiny Epic Kingdoms came to me recently via the east coast, mostly because the fulfilment centre was in New England.
I wonder if it costs more for a ship to travel a bit further, or to sit around somewhere waiting to be unloaded.
Want a preview? Spoilers available here! https://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1283639/i-got-chance-play-most-wotc-designer-warning-spoil
That got me pretty amped up for the expansion. The villains sound awesome. Before reading that, with no prior knowledge, I was interested in Capt. Cosmic but not so much in Skyscrapper. That has now reversed. Skyscrapper sounds like a lot of fun. I'll have to wait and see with the Capt… My excitement for this expansion has reached a new level.
Sky is pretty rediculous. The power creep is real.
I'm not seeing it.
Agreed. I was having a serious philosophical debate with myself - 'will reading this spoil things for me? Will I
still be excited after reading it? - and desire for any WotC knowledge won out. Now I'm even more excited than before.
Sky Scraper is a great deck. She's no Nightmist or Haka though.
Sky-Scraper*
Not scrapper.
I don’t understand why people STILL can’t get that right.
I know, that drives me irrationally crazy.
That extra P makes you pronounce it incorrectly, as if it rhymes with "crapper".
Man, that's cray-g.
A scrapper is someone who gets into fights. So, I can totally see why people still call Sky-Scraper Sky-Scrapper. She's feisty and gets into fights a lot.
To me that suggests that she has a bone to pick with the sky.
Could be. Maybe it fell on her once. So she got so mad she grew 50' tall and punched the sky in the face.
Yeah, but a skyscraper is already a thing. It's a play on the fact that she can become really really tall, like those giant buildings.
Skyscrapper isn't even an existing word. If she was Sky-Scrapper, that would mean someone who fights in the sky, and as far as I can tell she isn't particularly sky-based.
Basically Sky-Scraper is an interesting superhero name that makes sense and is an allusion to a familiar object. Sky-Scrapper is a crap name, superhero or otherwise.
Maybe she pulls the recyclable materials off the sky to sell to junkyards.
Good grief. It must be nice to have never misspelled anything before.
Just wait until the promo arrives - Sky-crapper. Look out below!
Sounds like an April 1st promo for the app.
That's a better name!
Power: Dump: Deal 1 target 1 projectile and 1 toxic damage.
Sky-scrapper. I mean Sky-Scraper bio has been written https://greaterthangames.com/content/have-you-seen-the-amazing-proportionist
She's going to have very fun thematic interactions with Voss fights.
I found out too late! I missed the preorder bonus!
Will anyone be getting an extra set?
First step, try to find a FLGS that got in on the pre-order and see if you can get the promo's there.
If that fails and no volunteers come out for trade just grab the scans once they are available, which will be not too long after the game hits release.
Woohoo they are starting to ship https://greaterthangames.com/content/it-has-begun
Aw yeah
Very cool. >G has very fast shipping times, too. Just another week or so!
Incap art was posted on the wiki page:
Captain Cosmic -
Infinitor or some other entity?
Sky-Scraper -
Tiny:
Normal:
Large:
I can tell the one figure is Fright Train but not sure who the other tiny figures are in that one
Guise-
Guise is awesome even incapped
By color scheme Purple with a bit of red I'd say Baron Blade, and the other one with pretty much same pale green all over might be Revenant. I don't have eagle eyes so you might want to take this with a grain of salt, but it's my take on that.
IMO It's most likely the final cosmic entity boss thing that's been teased (well, I think it's been teased)
I dunno if it's "final," but the stories for Deadline & Progeny certainly hint at something.
Tiny > Is that Dreamer looking in?
Huge > One of them looks like Vengful Baron Blade juding by the colors. Not sure who the third one is. This is totally a shout out to the Marvel Civil War when that size shifter guy died. NOt sure what his name was, Goliath?
My favoite thing about Guise is that he gets incapped by getting incapped. It reminds me of my favorite book from Kindergarten, The Monster at the end of this book, and that is a very good thing. I will probably refuse to flip his card. Because seriously, don't do that to Guise.
It reminded me of The Stinky Cheese Man and Other Fairly Stupid Tales.
The small green figurre is revanent from vengence.
