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Mists of Oblivion question

19 posts · 1096 views · started 2018-01-12 06:37 UTC
BK
bkerns
2018-01-12 06:37 UTC
#1

If Bringer of Dreams and Nightmares uses Mists of Oblivion, does he get the bonus fear on the power card for the towns and cities he would've destroyed?

AM
Ameena
2018-01-12 15:10 UTC
#2

I would say no, since they weren't destroyed...and actually, a quick Google to look for any previous incidences of this question brings up a thread in this very forum in which such was confirmed, see here - https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/bringer-of-dreams-and-nightmares-mists-of-oblivion-10519

RJ
rjc917
2018-01-12 16:31 UTC
#3

As someone who has not yet played Spirit Island, is Mists of Oblivion in any way connected to Nightmist and or OblivAeon?  I'm guessing no, but hoping yes!

P2
Powerhound_2000
2018-01-12 16:37 UTC
#4

I’m sure Christopher could make some argument that it is but I don’t see that as the intention especially since this timeframe these events occur in Spirit Island is the colonial age.  

RJ
rjc917
2018-01-12 17:00 UTC
#5

Nightmist's great great...grandmother?  We know her father was into paranormal stuff, why not farther back?

P2
Powerhound_2000
2018-01-12 17:18 UTC
#6

I guess.  I just don’t think such a stretch is necessary.   This game was originally created and it’s background completely separate from Sentinels.   I would say Spirit Island had more influence on what has happened with Sentinels as far as connection and references than the other way around especially with the original content released. 

ER
Eric_R
2018-01-12 17:59 UTC
#7

FAQ Added.

RJ
rjc917
2018-01-12 20:03 UTC
#8

Oh, I know they're separate, except for the Nexus of the Void connection.  I just really want them to be more connected!

P2
Powerhound_2000
2018-01-12 20:11 UTC
#9

Nexus of the Void is still a tack on by Christopher and not something the Spirit Island creator Eric ever intended.  

BK
bkerns
2018-01-13 02:35 UTC
#10

This was the answer I expected, but I was hoping it would work.  It's an ideal power for BoDaN otherwise.

AM
Ameena
2018-01-13 09:47 UTC
#11

Well, you'll still get Bringer's special-rule Fear for anything you would have destroyed, which is more than any other spirit gets for destroying stuff anyway. So it's not as if you lose out - quite the opposite, really ;).

BK
bkerns
2018-01-13 18:27 UTC
#12

You do lose out, because that special rule fear is the fair exchange for not destroying stuff, and then you miss out on the bonus fear on the card that other spirits would get.

AM
Ameena
2018-01-14 10:29 UTC
#13

I suppose it depends how much stuff you destroy - Bringer generates more Fear for destroying buildings than the other spirits do (two for Towns and five for Cities, versus one and two for everyone else), plus gets to Push them somewhere. So if you were playing with, say, Ocean, and pushed them into the sea you'd get some Fear for Ocean subsequently eating everything (since that's Ocean doing the destroying, not Bringer) >:).

JF
jffdougan
2018-01-15 02:27 UTC
#14

Note that Bringer doesn't get to push Cities. (Made that mistake before.)

AM
Ameena
2018-01-15 14:48 UTC
#15

Good point. I don't think I've ever hit a City hard enough as Bringer to trigger the effect anyway, but it's possible that I did and forgot about the no-pushing effect. Or maybe I did remember. I haven't played as Bringer for a while now...hmm, will have to fix that ;).

JF
jffdougan
2018-01-15 21:58 UTC
#16

I remember it because we had a game with Ocean, Bringer, and River wherein Bringer drew Tsunami and hit a coast I'd had to neglect for a couple turns (me playing Ocean). In part because we did things improperly, I think we generated 36 fear off the Tsunami, thresholds, pushes, and destruction. It still would have been impressive without pushing and actually destroying the cities, and we might not have won (I can't remember if that's the first time we ran the Fear deck or if we won that turn on TL 3.)

TA
TakeWalker
2018-01-16 03:47 UTC
#17

>36 fear

u wot m8 :D

JF
jffdougan
2018-01-16 04:05 UTC
#18

Well... when you've got a loaded up coastline, Bringer playing Tsunami and hitting the threshold, Ocean in the game and waiting to get fed, and mis-play the rule about pushing cities, it adds up. I remember us cycling the Fear pool twice, but not how much we exceeded it by after that.

AM
Ameena
2018-01-16 16:23 UTC
#19

Wow, that's cool :D. Generating a whole load of Fear at once is always satisfying, especially if you can earn two or more Fear cards at once and have a nice stack of them waiting to be resolved at the appropriate phase. Had an empty-Fear-deck victory the other day as Ocean and Shadow, pretty satisfying - think I've only emptied the Fear deck once before, if that :D.