Place to discuss theories on unlocking Termi-Nation Bunker
Place to discuss theories on unlocking Termi-Nation Bunker
It's not Win a game against normal Chokepoint with regular Absolute Zero, Bunker, and Unity at The Block.
I just did that without an Unlock.
storyline-wise (from the game files) says Chokepoint came into being after the Freedom Five prevented Dealine from destroying the Earth, and Chokepoint(named Choke at this time) heard a voice from Deadline's weapon. sneaking into the FF's tower, she got the Crystal from the Deadline Weapon, and using it to heal herself and becoming more powerful.
i'll try it tonight, but methinks there may be something here. Either deafeating Deadline first, then fighting Chokepoint with the Freedom Five in the Freedom Tower. Possible theory at least, eh?
Tried beating Chokepoint with 10+ cards from each of AZ/Unity/Bunker in her play area, no dice. Sure was fun though.
finally got to try this tonight, but to no Avail! Bunker had even used his Omni-Cannon to deal the finishing blow to Choke-point. no success unfortunately.
Storywise the 3 bios (from the wiki) also say that the three were defeated by Chokepoint after she defeated the Adamant Sentinels, then they went back in.
So I figure part of it might
Adamant sentinels must be first incapped against chokepoint, then loose with Bunker,Az, and Unity on team. Then back in with some new formula for each of them
I'm guessing (since I dont think we've seen a 'loose 2 games' unlock requirement yet) that it may be
'Loose to Chokepoint with a team of at least the Adamant Sentinels and Bunker. the Adamant Sentinels must be incapped first. Then defeat Chokepoint with a team of Absolute Zero, Bunker, and Unity. During this battle you must use Decomisioned Hardware at least 3 times
(the second part is based off of two things : 1) Choke destroying Bunker armor on her card in Vengeance Blade and the comment from the Podcast and 2) They had to redesigned the suit completely to fight her the second time))
Unsuccessful things for me so far:
- Building up Omni-Cannon and one-shotting Chokepoint
- defeating Chokepoint with at least 1 of each equipment in play
- Using Argent Adept to have Bunker play a card, use a power, and draw a card in the same AA turn
- defeating Chokepoint with no equipment in play
- playing each Mode 3 times in one game
It's a good thing you can easily stunlock Chokepoint with just Visionary and Wraith or Visionary/Tachyon. Makes messing around with her a lot easier.
No Unlock - Grandpa Legacy, Visionary and Bunker in Freedom tower.
Lost to Choke point first.
Then had 1 of all his equipment in play.
Nothing happened.
Recovered his Maintenence Unit from trash.
Nothing happened.
Used 2 Maintenence Units in 1 turn.
Nothing happened.
Got all 3 modes in play. Nothing happened.
Used Gatling Gun, Flack Cannon, Granade Lanucher and Omnicannon in the same turn. (Omni had 5 cards underneath).
Ran out of ideas at that point. Has anyone reported an unlock yet?
Yes, there's been an unlock on Steam. Same guy who got TN Absolute Zero. There's a screenshot available, check the Steam forums. Bunker is in the last position in a 5-hero game in Omnitron-IV. He's at under 10 HP, and the unlock is occurring off-turn. That's about all I can glean. PseudonymGamer posted a little about his AZ unlock, I assume he'll post about Bunker when he gets the chance.
He also mentioned that he was fighting Cosmic Omnitron. Looks like Tachyon jusy played Lightspeed barrage which killed Cosmic Omnitron. Bunker is looking beat up so low HP.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/337150/screenshots/

It could be having a lot of equipment and ongoing destroyed and then another hero do the final blow?
No unlock, but I just tried the obvious test of "defeat Cosmic Omnitron in Omnitron IV with Bunker (under 10HP)"
Fought Cosmic Omnitron in Omnitron IV with Legacy, Team Leader Tachyon, Tempest, Bunker and the Sentinels.
Had Bunker under 10 HP (he hit himself with the Omni-Cannon), and the Sentinels punched Cosmic out. So it's not quite that straightforward.
Cosmic Omnitron is scary, but ended up totally under control despite starting the game with two interpolation beams, a railgun and two EPEs. Legacy started with Heroic Interception, and boy did he intercept those EPEs. After that there was Take-Down and Writhe managed to stack non-Drones on Omnitron's deck so in the end we just punched him down.
It would make sense that Omnitron and/or Omnitron IV is involved since there is Omnitron tech in the suit? Or was it Omnitron that uses tech from the suit?
From today's Letter's Page, Chokepoint is fought in Omnitron IV during Termination. Unity and Omnitron-U were there, and I think Bunker was there too. Cosmitron was long gone at that point.
No unlock. Played against Kismet in Omnitron-IV with PW Argent Adept, Visionary, TL Tachyon, and Bunker. Environment cards ate 10 Bunker equipments and he pulled 10 equipments back out with Decommissioned Hardware. Each equipment was brought back from the trash in this way at least once. Bunker also destroyed his battery pack once to use an extra power. Bunker dealt the final blow.
I played each of Bunker's modes and other one-shots once. Ammo Drop was in play for the entire match.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that Ammo Drop went off a minimum of five times. I wasn't keeping notes on that since that wasn't the goal of the run. It went off repeatedly due to destroying Kismet Jinxes, but I don't know exactly how many times.
No unlock
Freedom 5 (with TLT)
Omnitron in Omnitron IV
TLT dealt a 16 hit Lightspeed Barrage defeating Omni.
Bunker dealt a 44 hit Omni-Cannon on the last drone
I have played several games with the team shown in the unlock vs Omni2 in Omni4.
No luck so far. I am trying all sorts of things. I will say that villian/environment combo eats through equipment. I am starting to think that may have something to do with it.
Maybe something like Bunker has more equipment destroyed during the game than he has HP upon the victory.
Just a thought. Anyone see any other reported unlock? Even one more data point would be really helpful.
Won a game with Bunker at 1 hp. So my last theory is wrong.
I posted this on the Unity forum, but the more I think about it the more I like the theory. AZ’s unlock is an extreme mimicking of his variant’s power. Perhaps Bunker is as well. Maybe iy is as simple as win a game where Bunker has destroyed 1 card, played 2 cards, used 2 powers and drawn 2 cards all in one round. There are a number of ways that this could be achieved between axularary power sources and mode cards. Given that for Unity and AZ the environment and villian don’t matter I am guessing that the same is true for Bunker. So I will play around with those conditions tonight.
My last game I tried this kind of thing. One round, I destroyed an Aux Power Unit and Recharge Mode at Start of Turn and put 3 cards under Omni-cannon, played Upgrade Mode and Turret Mode, then used Grenade Launcher, Flak Cannon, and Omni-cannon (12 cards under it by this point), finally discarding a card to keep Gatling Gun in play. I blew up a Villain card in the process and got to draw from Ammo Drop in the process. No unlock. I'll attach my log anyway.
Edit - I suppose that I didn't draw 2 cards in that turn. I believe that I tried blowing up Turret Mode with Tachyon and then having him draw from her power use that same round, though.
Yep. I had a similiar experience with no unlock. Played vs voss in the block. Oh well.
Are we about to have yet another Bunker variant with an unsolved unlock condition? This is the Bunker I've been looking the most forward to aside from the FV variant. I wish I had the time to help figure this one out.
How many people so far has unlocked him? On Steam there's one dude who did, but no further detail about what he did before.
I think a lt more people should attempt bunker, Unity and AZ are close to being figured out, we need more info for Bunker. Let's get out there friends!
Well, it's not have all three Modes in play during one turn (not at the same time), draw a ridiculous number of cards using Ammo Drop, and have Chrono-Ranger utterly destroy Grand Warlord Voss.
There was a hint on the stream. Something about omnitron. Still unclear.
Lt Vance would be the first guy to tell you that Omnitron is a major threat.
Cosmic Omnitron was an even more dangerous iteration, but it won't be the last.
Defeated Omnitron in Omnitron-IV with Bunker in the lead position. Bunker did not land the final blow.
Defeated Cosmic Omnitron in Omnitron-IV with Bunker in the last position. Bunker killed Partial Omni-Drone during the match but did not land the final blow on Cosmitron.
No unlock, so it's not quite that simple. I admit my Cosmitron game was a little cheesy, I used the ol' Wrest the Mind / EPE / Throat Jab thing to end it quickly.
Based on the only (?) verified unlock we have so far (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=883759772), here's what we know:
Here's what might be possible, based on the screen shot:
And here's just pure guesswork:
So, here's what I'm going to try:
Hi all, just had a thought based on John’s clue. We (or at least I) have been beating the snot out of Omnitron I & II in Omnitron IV, but I have been neglecting one important thing. Omnitron III or the Omniblade. I think we need a game where bunker is present with victories where I, II & III are destroyed. It may require that the Partial Omni-Drone in Omnitron IV is destroyed. Just throwing that out there.
It's not just
Defeta Omnitron 1, Omnitron II, Omni-Blade, (one of them in Omnitron IV) with Bunker on the team. There's more to it then just that. I think.
Maybe it's in the wording. Is versus Was. Is being that Omnitron is still around so he lost and Was being that Cosmitron is defeated. Maybe you just need to lose a game to Omnitron with Bunker(possibly in the first position) and then win a game with Bunker against Cosmitron in Omnitron-IV.
Confirmed. Just did all 3 (I & II in IV). No unlock. I have played so many games now with the various forms of Omnitron hoping to stumble onto something. I don’t know what to try next. This is not an obvious one easy to happen upon. I can’t believe that only 1 person has fpund it so far. I am willing to test ideas is anyone has something new.
Wait. OMNItron. OMNI-Cannon. Is there a connection between the two or are the names just similar? Probably has nothing to do with the unlock but I just noticed the similarity.
Just realized that the partial Omni drone never showed up in any of my last 2 games I guess I’ll go back in for more…
No luck with my "try to approximate Termi-Nation Bunker's power" attempt:
Heroes: Legacy, TLT, DV, Parse, Bunker vs. Cosmitron in Omnitron IV
On what I hoped would be the "unlock" turn, all of the heroes were down below 10 HP (trying to replicate the circumstances of the unlock screenshot). Cosmitron was not flipped, had 23 HP, with one component and the Electro-Pulse Explosive in play. I don't remember if Partial Omni-Drone ever came out. Bunker had Ammo Drop, Recharge Mode, Flak Cannon, Grenade Launcher, Heavy Plating, Maintenance Unit, and Omni-Cannon in play (With the exception of the Modes, most of those cards had been in play for several turns, and Bunker had drawn a bunch of cards via Ammo Drop). Omni-Cannon had six cards under it. Bunker did not go through his entire deck/reshuffle trash into deck. On Bunker's turn:
Start of Turn:
Put three more cards under Omni-Cannon
Destroyed Upgrade Mode
Play:
Played Recharge Mode
Played Turret Mode (destroyed Recharge Mode)
Power:
Grenade Launcher (with lots of buffs) -- (1) did 7 dmg to Cosmitron, destroying component and giving Bunker a card draw via Ammo Drop; (2) destroyed Electropulse Explosive, giving Bunker another card draw via Ammo Drop; (3) destroyed Internal Defense Grid.
OmniCannon -- destroyed all of the cards under it, including more Equipments, Ongoings, and One-Shots, killed Cosmitron.
So, in one turn, Bunker:
Unless there are additional requirements, like Bunker *not* being able to strike the killing blow, or something re: Partial Omni-Drone, or other heroes that have to be on the team, it looks like Bunker doing lots of things in a turn (like Termi-Nation AZ or Termi-Nation Unity's unlocks) is not the answer.
Let's not forget about Omni-tron III in Baron Blade's Vengeance deck.
I did not. It is not just defeating them (including the partial drone in Omni IV). Just randomly playing games now hoping to stumble on it so we hve a clue.
My current working theory is:
Bunker must be on the team.
Defeat Omnitron 1 in Omnitron IV
Defeat Omnitron 2 in Omnitron IV. The Omni-drone must be destroyed.
Great thought! The comments from the one Steam unlock (Steam Community :: Error) indicate that the guy beat Omni I and then went on to beating Omni II.
I tried that yesterday (see a few posts up) and it didn't work.
Maybe there's something else that needs to be done while both Omnis are being defeated? Certain #/type of cards played? Maybe it's a combination of beating both Omnis and the mimic-TermiNation-Bunker's-power approach?
New working theory, based on the Steam forums. Another person has unlocked it by fighting Omni I in Omni IV, then fighting Omni II in Omni IV.
I think that it might be:
Bunker must be on the team.
Defeat Omni I in Omni IV. The Omni-drone must never enter play.
Defeat omni II in Omni IV. The Omni-drone must never enter play.
Possible additional factors: in the recent unlock, bunker ended each game with a mode card, and with the lowest HP.
I can't confirm he was the lowest HP but I can confirm he was below 10 for each. I did beat Omnitron 1 in Omnitron IV then Onitron II in Omnitron IV. Omni-Drone never came out either game.
No unlock
Got it!
used my current working theory that it has to be 2 games. Omni I and Omni II, both in Omni IV. The Omni-drone never entered play, which I think is key.
team was: Legacy, Bunker, TL Tachyon, Dark Visionary, RC Wraith
First game, Bunker was in lead position. Second game, Bunker was in last position.
In each game, Bunker ended in turret mode, and ended with the lowest HP.
will attempt to replicate on steam later tonight.

The only difference I had was that he was last both games, and he was not the lowest HP. Also I did not end on Turret mode the first game.
WIll attempt again
First game
OMNITRON-1 in OMNITRON IV
Bunker (18), Legacy (25), TLT (21), Wraith (26), KNYFE (24)
Bunker on Turret Mode for last round
No Omni-drone
Second Game
ONITRON-II in OMNITRON IV
Legacy (15), TLT (16), Wraith (19), KNYFE (21). Bunker (11)
Bunker on Turret Mode
No Omni-drone
No Unlock
In my games, and in the other unlocks I've seen, Bunker was at 10 HP or lower in the second game (and I made sure he was below 10 in the first game too). That might be a component.
I will try this! Thanks! I'll do my best not to spam
Saw a log for someone on steam who got the unlock. Bunker only ever dealt fire damage according to the log. Does that match with your unlock?
Unlocked It!
First Fight: http://imgur.com/sxzqwOZ
Second Fight: http://imgur.com/FwRyLWI
Proof: http://imgur.com/qO5ZKX6
The Only difference I did was Bunker was at less than 10 HP. meaning one of the conditions is "Bunker is at least at 10 HP".
Things to test: Does it have to be Omnitron? Does it have to be in Omnitron IV? How many games are needed?
I did projectile damage a bit. Some fire too, but not exclusively.
Just got the unlock!
Team-Bunker, Legacy, TL Tachyon, Wraith then FF Wraith, and finally D Visionary.
Bunker first on the first round with Omni and Omni IV.
Bunker last on the second round with Omni II and Omni IV.
No Partial Omnis were played.
Bunker dealt fire and projectile damage in both.
Bunker was not the lowest in both, but was below 10hp in both.
Bunker was in turret mode for both at the end. He played turret mode on the last turn and dealt the final blow.
It was a very close call in the last round.
I put my final win screenshot up with the unlocking screenshot as well. We know now that bunker doesn't have to be lowest, but probably low. He can also deal the final blow. If he has to be in turret mode, he doesn't have to be there for long. I was thinking that the first round, he played turret mode on his last turn as well, but he did not deal the final blow.
YES
So.
Bunker must be below 10. But doesn't need to be the lowest
He can deal the final blow
Tried replicating this and it worked for me too. Beat Omnitron in Omnitron IV with Bunker below 10 HP, in Turret Mode and the lowest HP hero target, and then beat Cosmitron in Omnitron IV, again with Bunker below 10 HP, as the lowest HP hero target and in turret mode. Finished off Cosmitron with an Omni Cannon blast and unlocked Termi-Nation Bunker. In both games, the Omni-Drone never entered play (It was discarded by Rook City Wraith's base power both times).
Unlocked. Beat Omni in Omni-IV, never played a Mode, Bunker in first position, under 10 HP. Beat Omni II in Omni IV, Bunker in last position & under 10 HP, only played one Mode (Recharge) right at the end. Omni-II died to redirected EPE damage.
I had previously done step 2 but not step 1 - my HP was over 10. So, order of games matters and it seems pretty clear he should be under 10 HP in both. I did nothing special otherwise, and believe me I've been trying "special" with this setup.
Forgot to mention my team comp was different for both matches. Bunker/Legacy/KNYFE/Ra in match 1, TL Tachyon / Visionary / Wraith / Bunker in match 2. Team comp and size appears to be irrelevant.
Now, has anyone tried this not in Omnitron-IV, i.e. "Defeat Omnitron with Bunker in the first position and with less than 10 HP, then defeat Omnitron II with Bunker in the last position and below 10 HP"? Or have we all unlocked it in Omnitron IV?
Other things to verify
I can try getting some games in maybe this weekend, but thought I’d leave some ideas on what I want to try if someone wants to take the lead.
Confirmed.
Win a game with bunker with a mode card in play less than 10 HP (lowest of all heroes) against OT I & II in OT IV = unlock for me.
Unlocked here.
Did not have mode cards in play (never played any, actually).
Two different teams, against Omnitron in Omni IV. Bunker, Legacy, TLT, Elemental Wrath AZ, Sentinels, then Old LEgacy, SSTach, OmniX, Sentinels, Bunker
Bunker was tied with Tachyon at 3HP the first game, and was lowest at 2HP the second. Other heroes were under 10 HP though - Idealist was at 4HP and Omni X was at 8. The Omni reaper came out but was destroyed by Omnitron's Terraforming in th first game, no Omni-Reaper the second game.
Seems like:
Beat Omnitron in Omni IV with a team with Bunker in first position and under 10 HP, then immediately
Beat Cosmic Omnitron in Omni IV with a team where Bunker is last position and under 10 HP.
may be sufficient to get the unlock.
I did not get an unlock with beating the two Omnitrons with Bunker under 10 HP in Omi IV. Bunker was NOT in first position/last position. I mean, I can try again but at the same time that seems like a really random and arbitrary condition to add to the unlock, especially when it has to be different for each fight.
EDIT: And there's the unlock with first and last position. Weird. Maybe only the second game is required?
The community here and on the Steam forums have discovered the official unlock conditions for Termi-Nation Bunker!
Defeat Omnitron in Omnitron-IV with regular Bunker as the first hero. Then, defeat Cosmic Omnitron in Omnitron-IV with regular Bunker as the last hero. At the end of both games, Bunker must be active and have less than 10 HP.
YAY!
Funny that the unlock that was the last to be gotten/replicated was the first one we got the exact conditions for.
Now that we know the unlock requirements can some one explain them from a story perspective? They make no sense to me. I don’t see any special relatioship between Bunker and Omnitron mentioned anywhere and never heard anything on the letters pod casts that would remotely lead me to figuring this out.
Look at the incap side of the original version of TermiNation Bunker. It also got mentioned during the Omnitron Letters Page episode that Omnitron IV used pieces of TermiNation Bunker's suit that got damaged fighting Chokepoint.
Wonderful that yall figured this out. But why oh why did it have to be Omnitron? He's the one "easy" villain I consistently struggle with. Baron Blade, yawn. Ambuscade, training dummy. Gloomweaver, seriously? Looks like its finally time for me to figure out how to beat him. Damn you Sedative Flechettes and Technological Singularity!!
My team
Legacy, KNYFE, TL Tachyon, Wraith and Bunker.
Tachyon can get all the cards and can stop damage
Wraith can deal the damage (with all the boosts) and has decent control
Legacy, well, it's pretty obvious.
KNYFE i chose because her damage and play is pretty intense.
With this team I destroyed Omnitron 1 in a few rounds. Same team took a bit lonegr for Onitron II, but still sucess.
My team, besides Bunker, was TLT, Dark Visionary, Parse, Argent Adept, in that order. Parse can prevent Flechettes or Singularity, Argent does his thing, Tachyon helps as usual, and Visionary helps control things as well as cheese it out with the EPE (I did this both times).
Bunker should focus on spamming his adhesive foam grenades, whittling the boss’s health down, as well as his own; get him below 10, then make sure to end the game STAT.
With this team, it’s a surprisingly easy set of fights.
I used a variation on this – substituted regular Legacy for Argent Adept (for tanking and increased damage), but otherwise the team was the same – with similar results. Got the unlock in one try.
In theory, at least. I had a game recently where Parse noped the Fletchettes only to replace them with more Fletchettes.
Ouchies
I guess your plan wasn't fleshed out! HAHAHAH! ![]()
Yeah, sometimes the deck just decides it hates you. Although if you are also using Extra Sensory Perception. You should be able to seriously mitigate the chances of that happening.
I've got worse; trying to get the unlock I had two Buffer Overflows out, and the enivronment played a drone which got Cosmic Omitron started. I sent away Fletchettes to get a fatal EPE, and sent that away to get the OTHER fatal EPE.
That’s what Visionary is for! The EPE is your friend!
Got the unlock. First game was easy with Bunker, Legacy, TLT, Wraith and OX. Second game was same team with OX and Bunker swapped (and cheesing the rewind function with the Infrared Eyepiece).
Ended up having to have Bunker shoot himself a couple times to get under 10 HP in both games.
Not if the EPE is played by the environment turn.
That's why I brought OX – never let Cosmitron flip in the first place.
Oh, the ENVIRONMENT did. I missed that.
I had a few bad runs against Omni 2. The worst was Legacy, Fanatic, KNYFE, Tempest, and Bunker. Everything was going well, but we were a little hurt. I finished off Omni 2 with KNYFE's Incidental Contact, but had accidentally healed Bunker to 11 with Cleansing Downpour. The worst is I could have hit Bunker first and gotten the unlock, I just wasn't paying attention.
Got it. Omni I was pretty easy with the team suggested above thanks to Parse denial card eliminating Fletchettes and 3 Critical Multiplers and that environment card that let’s you discard 7 plus cards to destroy it.
Cosmitron though took 2 tries. Couldn’t get Parse’s denial card at all both times and Bunker got taken out by an ill timed Technological Singularity the first time through. Oh how I hate Omnitron.
I'm tellin' ya, OX makes Cosmitron much more manageable. With a decent opening draw, you never have to see his flip side.
Interesting how philosophies differ – with the crew I used (Legacy, TLT, Parse, DV, Bunker), I much prefer Cosmi-tron flipped. On his regular side, he plays two cards, and it's harder to use Parse/DV effectively to control him. On his reverse side, I used Legacy to tank his energy damage, and between Parse, DV, and Bunker's Foam Grenades, it was easy to keep both the environment and Cosmi's deck in check to prevent surprises.
Using a strat from above(Bunker, TLTachy, Legacy, Wraith and Knyfe first; then swapped Knyfe out for O-X and had him at the head with Bunker last) I defeated both Omnis handily and got the unlock. I lucked out and got enough foam grenades and grapple hooks to keep the more dangerous enviro cards in line, and the damage boost from Legacy( with early draws of IP) made most everything else manageable. I also only ever got TS once a game, but since I kept my equipments slim I was able to get through it relatively unharmed for the most part. Did so well that I had to punch Bunker down to the appropriate health each time.

Well, a Drone in Omnitron IV causing Cosmitron to play an EPE on the environment turn is definitely one way to NOT unlock this variant...:sigh:
Yeah I had that happen too… all my heroes went from near max HP to incapacitated in a single turn.
Not sure if this is intended, but I was able to skip playing a card, and on another turn skip using a power with Termi-Nation Bunker's base power. I remember there was talk that these might be non-optional steps, but for now it seems the skip button is there and usable...
That's a bug, we'll fix it up. Thanks!