Challenge: Arena Champions

I was playing against Kaargra, and by the time the battle was over, we had 44 favor to the Bloodsworn's 11.  This was mostly produced by Expatriette holding onto Mindbreaker, Seeker, and Indiscriminate all at once.  (Admittedly, getting this victory took 3 tries.  The first two had Kaargra getting ridiculous numbers of titles.  (In the first game, she got Chaos Lord, and then we got Lost in the Past, and the second game had Kaargra getting the Seeker/Mindbreaker/Indiscriminate combo)

This got me wondering how much favor we could aquire before the match was declared over.  So I thought I'd start a challenge in the manner of MarioFanatic's Raw Damage Challenge.  (The difference being that favor is harder to accumulate at absurd levels than damage is.)  The rules are the same: submit a screenshot and get added to the leaderboard.  Ranking is determined by how much favor the heroes accumulated, with no regard for how well the Bloodsworn did (although you must have achieved victory in order to be counted), but there is a bonus category for getting an exact multiple of the Bloodsworn's score.

Leaderboard:

120 favor - Nepycros
68 favor - UXM266
62 favor - deddragon
62 favor - BlueHairedMeerkat
58 favor - padcurtain
56 favor - Nepycros
56 favor - Estelindis
56 favor - riff.freelance
54 favor - LewdDolphin
52 favor - UXM266
50 favor - McBehrer
49 favor - MarioFanaticXV
49 favor - emcg575797
48 favor - jorgenp
44 favor - Arcanist Lupus

Bonus category

15! 15 times their score! Ah, Ah, Ah    (Nepycros)
14! 14 times their score! Ah, Ah, Ah    (Nepycros)
12! 12 times their score! Ah, Ah, Ah    (jorgenp)
8!    8 times their score! Ah, Ah, Ah    (riff.freelance)
4!    4 times their score!  Ah, Ah, Ah   (Arcanist Lupus)

Extra Special Bonus Category

0 favor - I don't remember who, but it was in a Weekly One-shot
2 favor - Deddragon
9 favor - LewdDolphin

Oh man. I had the closest game ever on the plane to Edinburgh, and I did capture a screenshot because dang. It doesn't beat your score (and I lost) but take a look at Kaargra's HP.


Ok I don't have proof because my kindle crashed but I hit 58 once

So, I didn't realize that they showed the pool on the winning screen then accidentally skipped the victory screen, so hopefully my final screen will suffice along with Nightmists's titles. The next damage to hit Nightmist would have destroyed everyone there. 

I did it all thanks to Nightmist.

EDIT: @MigrantP - Is it possible to get to see the titles on the victory screen as well? That would be pretty gnarly. 

Ow. That's brutal Migrant. Had a match like that recently. Forgot I needed to flip Kaargra... >_>

Aaah, Kaargra has a thumbs down when you lose - it should be the other way around...well, I mean, I'm not really sure how an alien manages to use the same method as the Romans for determining life or death in the arena, but for their part, thumbs down meant "No, don't kill him" (addressing the victor and concerning whomever they'd just beaten) while thumbs up meant "Yes, finish him". It's just that nowadays a thumbs up is considered a good thing, and I suppose we're more likely to treat the survival of both combatants as a more positive outcome than one of them being splattered all over the floor ;).

Yeah, but if Kaargra is drawing from Earth traditions in order to mock the heroes she's sentencing to death, it makes more sense for her to use the gesture more commonly thought of as negative, rather than what the Romans actually used, because that's what's most easily picked up from our culture :P

Not quite 50, but Tachyon was a beast as she kept on hitting the gladiators for 4 damage.

56 hero favour vs. 19 bloodsworn favour!  It was close.  :)  I like to think of Legacy, Sky-Scraper, Mr. Fixer, and Haka as Team Punching.  :D

Sixty-two! Chaos Lord Tachyon is best Tachyon.

Leaderboard updated!

...Are you sure?

Yes, I am sure.

I'm not sure it's right, but I'm sure that it's been updated.

I could certainly have gone for more, but I decided to submit this for the Bonus Category:

Bloodsworn 4

Heroes 48 (revised from the 49 in the screenshot, see below)

Factor:  12x

Edit:  Oh wait, did I have to get an exact multiple?  Dang, I could easily have gotten 48, but went for the extra one anyway :/

Edit 2: Just to say what that was...  Haka used Tai'aha to damage himself to collect "Reckless" before finishing off Kaargra.  If the exact multiple rule remains in place, can we pretend I didn't do that?  It's exactly 48 then.

The rules for the bonus category do require an exact multiple, but I accept your revision.  

> 12! 12 times their score! Ah, Ah, Ah    (jorgenp)

Am I supposed to be reading that in my head as though the Count from Sesame Street is saying it?

EDIT: Okay, I did it myself and got 50. Says 49, but it should be one more because the final hit did 7 damage.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=671553103

Making a change like that would mean a lot of the scores may be wron.  I assume that the Title Pool is just set to trigger after the defeat of Kaargra is resolved, but she causes the game to end before that increase occurs.

Also, it seems the OP has had several edits automatically undone for some reason.  It's not the first time we've seen that happen on a heavily edited post.  Weird...

Yep!

EDIT: Okay, I did it myself and got 50. Says 49, but it should be one more because the final hit did 7 damage.http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=671553103

I'm going to count that as 49, because the game ended before you could get the last favor.  But I will put you above the other 49.

I haven't noticed any edits undone.  On the other hand, I have the memory of a steel sieve.  Can you point out what has changed?

I don't see the updates for my score in the list.  Does it display correctly for you? 

Yeah.  I have you up in the main list with 48 points, and up on the bonus list with 12 times their score (Ah, Ah, Ah)

Well that's odd.  I see:

Leaderboard:

62 favor - BlueHairedMeerkat
58 favor - padcurtain
56 favor - Estelindis
52 favor - UXM266
49 favor - emcg575797
44 favor - Arcanist Lupus

 

 

Bonus category

4! 4 times their score!  Ah, Ah, Ah   (Arcanist Lupus)

I have seen the one with me in there before, though…  weird…

It's still there, looks like you need to clearr your browser cache/do things more complex that I can't even think of!

Have you tried turning it off and back on again?

So am I the only one seeing the old version of the OP?  I even tried Chrome just to see if it's a Firefox or cache thing, but the post looks the same...

Since I can't quote the original post for some reason I'm attaching a screenshot.

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I'm not in any running here, but 48 to 17 is the best I've done since this post started.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=677138292

54! And a victory!


I got a good one as well!

Is there a prize for the reverse--winning with the fewest hero favor?


Nice! Took me a minute

No prize, but there is now a brand new shiny leaderboard.

Challenge accepted!

Sorry about the colorless image, it’s the only way on my phone to fit the 500k requirement.

Nice!

Thanks! And thanks for pointing out a different strategy I hadn’t considered before, that was fun. I love that her picture isn’t there on the game end screen

is 68 vs 19 good?

Saved the picture from my phone!

It puts you at the top of the leaderboard, so I'd say that that's pretty good!

Leaderboard:

68 favor - UXM266
62 favor - deddragon
62 favor - BlueHairedMeerkat
58 favor - padcurtain
56 favor - Estelindis
54 favor - LewdDolphin
52 favor - UXM266
49 favor - MarioFanaticXV
49 favor - emcg575797
48 favor - jorgenp
44 favor - Arcanist Lupus

Bonus category

12! 12 times their score! Ah, Ah, Ah    (jorgenp)
4!    4 times their score!  Ah, Ah, Ah   (Arcanist Lupus)

Extra Special Bonus Category

2 favor - Deddragon
9 favor - LewdDolphin

Probably won't last long...

But YAY!

I wouldn’t say that. 62 was up there for quite a while and the best I could do was tie. I think you’ll have the lead for a bit.

And well earned, I’d say. Woot woot!

Thanks!

I had a 17-0 game go down in defeat.  I really thought I was going to pull off 20-0, then bam, everything fell apart horribly.  Ended up losing 27-20 when Warfang was destroyed by the Kraken, brought back, and given mind-breaker (or whatever that one is) when I should have had her shut down.

I had no gladiators in the trash, Kaargra a target and Judgement ->Get back in there on top of the deck.  Even had cards to burn for the destruction.

Oh man it went bad.

Sure, I'll throw my hat into the ring.

120 Favor, 15 times the Bloodsworn's Favor count.


It's worth mentioning that the only limitation on my strategy is time. This could conceivably go on infinitely, I just felt like stopping when I thought my place in the leaderboards was secure.

Now that the secret's out, I think having a high score isn't so impressive anymore. XD

What would that Strategy be exactly?   Not only is your score really high you also have an almost fully healthy team.  

Perfect lockdown. Take Down happens to be an Ongoing, which Mental Divergence can infinitely recycle. Not only that, but Argent Adept helps Legacy to draw AND play Take Down out of turn. Legacy becomes immune to Melee damage, Wraith reduces all the damage the environment deals to 0, and then picks them off with some heavy damage powers. So the Villain cannot play cards or deal damage, and the environment cannot deal damage. In the Final Wasteland, with 4 Heroes, the maximum damage they could deal is 3, making 3 Mega Computers comfy.

It's normal to accumulate ~7-9 tokens per round using this strategy, though once the combo is set up, make sure you turn off automatic drawing, and only draw when Legacy needs to get his Take Down; if you draw your whole deck, you can't use the Library's effect to play more Environment targets for Wraith to mow down for Favor.

Brilliant.

And there goes my first place position dying with a whisper.

I feel kind of like we need to give Nepycros their own Title now for essentially pwning the Arena.

Oh! I have a pretty good one!

So since my strategy turned out so well, I used some free time to see if I could get things to work even better for me.

So I went ahead and gave Wraith all 10 Titles.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/NmAenZt.jpg[/img ]

Is that worth an award? This is technically also an infinite combo, since the environment cannot deal damage, the villain cannot deal damage, and cannot play cards.

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Turns out when you play F6 Wraith, have all 10 Titles, and have all Equipment possible in play along with Grandpa Legacy and Dark Visionary providing buffs, you can knock Kaagra from 40 HP down to 0 in a single turn. Inventory Barrage and Last Stand are actually more than enough to bring her down with all the added buffs.

We got two leaderboards going, I have one with 68 points, in second place. 

Can you make sure the first post is accurate? Please see comments 35 and 36

Thanks!

And #47!

TRUE!

Sorry about that.  I don't like editing when I'm on my phone, and I tend to forget once I'm back at my computer.

No worries. Hopefully I didn;t come off too demanding or mean. I woudln't have noticed if my score wans't there (selfish, I know). But thansk for all the work!

This is my extra close victory:

How do you keep Kaargra alive long enough to accumulate 120 favor?  To reduce her damage, I've been hitting her with double Stun Bolts…unfortunately, the Targeting Computer is attached, which means she doesn't stick around long.  Only managed to be up 54-7 when she died.

Next Evolution + Lead From the Front. Immunity to melee means she literally cannot do damage.

He’s not dealing damage to her. That’s what the environment is for.

I'm not sure that's correct.  He references having three Mega Computers in play, and says, "So the Villain cannot play cards or deal damage, and the environment cannot deal damage.  ."  I'm assuming that the way he has Kaargra not able to deal damage is Wraith Stun Bolting her (or Throat Jabbing her), since he's using Visionary to keep re-spawning Take Down.  

In any event, if the environment is consistently damaging her, that still gives rise to the same issue:  Keeping Kaargra alive long enough to accumulate vast amounts of favor.

As mentioned earlier in the thread:

Next Evolution (Legacy is immune to one damage type) and Lead From The Front (Redirect Villan Target generated Damage to Legacy) make her impotent.

I wasn’t clear. The environment is for generating favor, not dealing damage.

Had a good run today, was a just for fun match. Thought I'd come back and check this out. Didn't know someone broke the system. Anyway, this was good for in the top 5 at one point in time.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=835722364


And toying with the "break the system" setup and got a crazy number with a similar, but different enough setup:

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/96099157749963337/1AAE86F1ABB0F1E6202F552DA8F73FEB14F0CBE9/337150_screenshots_20170109001008_1.jpg


At that point Kaargra should just be bowing to you not just look defeated.