Artwork Unknown Character Speculation

Mostly for my own amusement. These are currently all of the cards from the released expansions with characters on them that do not have their own character or minion card. As >G has shown a tendency to offer sneak peaks of future expansions through the artwork, let's see what we can find.

{Edit} Updated to reflect Shattered TimeLines cards

[Edit] Updated to reflect Vengeance cards.

[Edit] Updated to reflect Wrath of the Cosmos cards.

[Edit] Updated to reflect new information found by Matchstick Man

Ghostly Images – Realms of Discord: Greatest Legacy and GI Bunker

Claustrophobic Delusion – Realms of Discord: Unknown figure in red with gold boots, probably Captain Cosmic.

Blighted Streets - Rook City: Young girl confirmed to be a young Ermine.

Scum and Villainy – Rook City: Friction. Proletariot. Char. Bulky figure at the back that looks like its on fire, probably the Radioactivist.

Maintenance Level – Wagner Mars Base: FrightTrain. Also on Flak Cannon.

Coolant Blast – Absolute Zero: Proletariot. Also appears on Scum and Villainy and Lead from the Front.

Frost Bound Drain – Absolute Zero: Char. Also on Scum and Villainy

Vernal Sonata – Argent Adept: Tempest's dog.

Syncopated Onslaught – Argent Adept: The Aeon Men. Also on Cerebral Haemorhage,

Silver Shadow – Argent Adept: Caprain Cosmic. Prime Wardens Tempest

Polyphoric Flare – Argent Adept: Siege-Breaker

Rhapsody of Vigor – Argent Adept: Confirmed to be the Idealist.

Counterpoint Bulwark – Argent Adept: Grotesque Arachnoid

Incapacitated - Argent Adept, Prime Warden: Tentacled alien elder god with single eyes in the centre.

Flak Cannon – Bunker: FrightTrain. Also on Maintenance Level

Incendiary Rounds – Expatriette: Citizen Slash

Shock Rounds – Expatriette: Revenant. Setback, also on Weak Heart and Violent Trickster.

Quick Draw – Expatriette: Unknown man in shirt with gun. May be Tony Taurus

Hollow Points – Expatriette: Argentium

Sacrosanct Martyr – Fanatic: Illusory Demon

Incpacitated - Fanaticm, Prime Warden: Grey-skinned ghouls/Vampires

Haka of Battle – Haka: The Radioactivist

Elbow Smash – Haka: The Hippo

Back-fist Strike – Legacy: Man in white, apparently with cap flying off. May be on Combat Stance

Incapacitated Side – Legacy: Woman cradling Legacy. Probably his wife, Mrs Parsons.

Lead from the front – Legacy: Proletariot. Appears multiple times. Also appears on Coolant Blast and Scum and Villainy.

Motivational Charge – Legacy: Citizen Anvil.

“Thokk!” - Legacy: Dark Hero

Overdrive – Mister Fixer: Zhu Long

Pipe Wrench – Mister Fixer: Zhu Long

Hoist Chain - Mister Fixer: Granite Oni

Dark Watch Promo - Incapacitated - Mister Fixer: Identified as Heartbreaker in For Profit description.

Call Forth – NightMist: Man-Grove

Heedless Lash – NightMist: The Seer

Mists of Time – NightMist: Cosmic entity holding the Earth

Incapacitated – Tachyon: Figure on ice slide. Figure in whirlwind.

Fleet of Foot – Tachyon: Friction. Also appears on Scum and Villainy.

Lightning Reflexes – Tachyon: Treacherous Ape

Lightspeed Barrage – Tachyon: Giant zombie/Frankenstein Monster with glowing red eyes

Nimble Strike – Tachyon: Female figure with red hair in dark red costume, part of the Slaughterhouse Six

Sucker Punch – Tachyon: Identified from the Hero Challenge acheivements as Biomancer.

Supersonic Repsonse – Tachyon: Writhe.

Synaptic Disruption – Tachyon: Figure surrounded in blue flames.

Flash Flood – Tempest: Giant red male

Incapacitated - Tempest, Prime Warden: Black skinned figure with trident and tentacles for hair.

Volatile Parts – Unity: Giant flaming figure, also on High-Risk Behaviour. Part of the Slaughterhouse Six

Powered Shockwave – Unity: The Radioactivist

Incapacitated – Visionary: Purple figure behind her. Probably Dark Visionary.

Demoralisation – Visionary: Toy Master

Decoy Projection – Visionary: Major Flay

Cerebral Haemorrhage – Visionary: Armoured figures. Also on Syncopated Onslaught

Suggestion – Visionary: Male figure with shaggy fur on shoulders.

Incapacitated – Rook City Wraith: Equity. Short figure in gold. Ermine.

Throat Jab – Wraith: Macabre Spectre

Combat Stance – Wraith: Thug in white with cap. May be on Back-Fist Strike.

Disrupt the Field – Akash'Bhuta: Omnitron-X

Living Rockslide – Akash'Bhuta: Chrono-Ranger. Also appears on Shadowy Ambush.

Shadowy Ambush – Plague Rat: Chrono-Ranger. Also on Living Rockslide.

The Desert's Wrath – The Ennead: Giant Egyptian golem

"Dead or Alive", Eye on the Prize, Terrible Tech-Strike - Chrono-Ranger: Doc Tusser

"No Executions" - Chrono-Ranger: Target. Confirmed as Citizen Truth.

"The Whole Gang" - Chrono-Ranger: The Crackjaw Crew.

Defensive Blast - Omnitron-X: The Aeon Men

Demoralizing Presence - Iron Legacy: The Radioactivist. The hulking figure under the rock, sprculated to be Haka as it's similar to the his incapaciated side.

Iron-Fist Strike - Iron Legacy: Mainstay

"Diplomatic" Envoy - Miss Information: Possibly Major Flay, purely on the red arm whips.

"Old Lady" in the Street - Miss Information: Icy female

Isolated Hero - Miss Information: Four characters. Ermine. The Radioactivist. Zhu Long. Vyktor.

Projected Paralysis - The Dreamer: Sky-Scraper,

Vigilance - Iron Legacy: Man and child featured.

Weak Hear - Kismett: Setback

Violent Trickster - Kismet: Setback

Energy Burn - Knyfe: Unknown alien with visible glowing brain

Incidental Contact - Knyfe: The Aeon Men

Primed Punch - Knyfe: Unknown monolith, may not be a character.

Naturalist, Incapacitated side: Deadline

Hyperactive Senses - The Naturalist: Masked figure and illusory duplicates, part of the Slaughterhouse Six

Indomitable Force - The Naturalist: Deadline. The Idealist

Shifter's Strength - The Naturalist: Infinitor

Buffer Overflow - Parse: Tryragon Rex

Exploit Vulnerability- Parse: Unknown plant-based member of Crackjaw Crew

Quick Calculation- Parse: Korrupton, the Last Infektor

Reveal the Flaws- Parse: Captain Cosmic, Progeny

Snap Decision- Parse: Blonde woman hostage

Blackout - The Sentinels: Unknown figure in red and blue with gun and silver backpack, probably Riot Ray

Coordinated Assault - The Sentinels: Unknown red giant with green gloves, may be on Flash Flood.

Sentinel Tactics:- Ther Sentinels Two unknown members of the Crackjaw Crew

Cause and Effect - Setback: Unknown shadow creature

High Risk Behaviour- Setback: Unknown electrical villain in black. unknown mirror-masked villainess in orange. unknown stingray villain in blue. unknown winged villain in purple. unknown lava creature. Identified collectively from the Villain Challenge Document as the Slaughterhouse Six.

Plucky Break- Setback. Unknown electrical villain in black

Uncharmed Life- Setback: Unknown mirror-masked villainess in orange. Also appears on Nimble Strike

Destructive Response - Captain Cosmic: Multiple aliens with metallic skull faces and glowing brains. Also appears on Energy Burn.

Harsh Offense - Captain Cosmic: Woman with glowing blue eyes.

Wounding Buffer - Captain Cosmic: Horned blue creature firing laser beams from its eyes.

Incapacitated - Captain Cosmic: Giant stone hand

Incapacitated Side - Captain Cosmic, Prime Warden: Woman with pale green skin and red eyes. Similar but not identical appearance to Jansa Vi Dero.

Thorathian Monolith - Sky-Scraper: The Aeon Men

Fickle Fans - Kaargra Warfang: Many aliens

Stone Jaw - Title Deck: Unknown man in suit holding rock. may be Tony Taurus.

The Unbreakable - Title Deck: Two headed creature in sand behind Haka. May be Tryragon Rex, but lacks the three eyes of his individual card.

Thorathian Military - Dok Thorath: Flyign Thorathian female.

Hall of the terminarch - Enclave of the Endlings: Unknown funky Martial Artist. Believed to be Black Fist, Mr Fixer in his younger days.

The Endling Refuge - Enclave of theendlings: Purple cyclopean giant.

Best Card Ever! - Guise: Butler

Gimmicky Character - Guise: The shark

Where Did I Have That ... - Guise: Pool ball themed villain.

Other Notes:

Insider Knowledge shows 20 folders. 

By columns, they are:

1. Absolute Zero, Argent Adept, Bunker, Chrono-Ranger
2. Expatriette, Fanatic, Haka, "Knyfe"
3. Legacy, Mister Fixer, Nightmist, Omnitron X
4. "Parse", Ra, ?, "Setback"
5. Tachyon, (Tempest?), Visionary, Wraith

Insider Knowledge infor discovereed by McBehrer

Some of these (particularly the Desert's Wrath) may be reading too much into the images, but any others I've missed? Any on the list that have been confirmed anywhere?

[EDIT] Updated to catch errors.

I believe the sorcerer in green on Nightmist's card is The Master, the man who trained her in her backstory.

He is on the art we have for Vengeance, and seems a little young for the Master, to me. I don't remember who suggested some times ago that he could be the dragon on overdrive card, because of color schemes.

True.  I could see that case being made.

I nominate that we dub the guy in the wifebeater on Scum and Villa(i)ny Rainbow Smash, because his rainbow mohawk is pretty fantastic.

Also, the tentacle creature on Unload appears to be the Gene-Bound Shock Infantry.

And the guy in the helmet (thanks to one of the guys in my group that just walked into my coffee shop job) appears to be the Gene-Bount Ion Lancer.

Rainbow Smash is 20% cooler than the other villains.

I almost put that in regards to his mohawk, but I didn't want to clutter the forum with MLP.  But since it was someone other than me who made that reference I have NO problem with it! XD

I hope that dragon (from Mr Fixer's "Overdrive" card) turns up more often - I just think he looks so cool :D. Also, his colour scheme reminds me of Snarf...

I love that dragon too.  Whenever we play "Overdrive", we never say we're playing "Overdrive".  We say we're "Punching the Dragon!".

Isn't Ra the guy that Legacy is punching out on Motivational Charge? I also think it might be Ambuscade he's hitting on Back Fist Strike.

I'm more inclined to think that that's Citizen Anvil he's motivationally charging at (note the wife beater.  Very un-Ra).  As far as Back-Fist Strike goes, I don't know if it's Ambuscade.  I've never seen his face, and his face doesn't appear to be damaged from his genetic engineering.  I'm guessing that it's a random thug.

thanks for this list. nicely done.

You forgot the short guy on back of Rook City Wraith's card, first is Spite, then the half and half guy, then the short guy, then the woman.

RD is my favorite. So I certainly caught the reference. 

Also, Motivational Charge definitely has Legacy punching Christopher Citizen Anvil.

Given the futures of Legacy we've seen, I think having it be Christopher makes a LOT of sense.

I think you'll find I did include him, sir. Move along. Absolutely nothing to see here. Definitely no surreptitious edits, no, no, no.

Thanks, Koga.

what about Tempest's fish?

You will also find Tempest's Eel featured elsewhere... soon.

I don't see Mr Fixer's Harmony card on your list : 3 figures, one glowing blue, seems to have a staff of energy under arm, two glowing red-orange, one with a sword and a staff, one with what seems to be a nunchaku, all weapons apprently made of pure energy. The card has a quote of Black Fist (former pseudonym of Mr Fixer), it is possible that the blue figure is Black Fist, in some kind of energetic plane /universe /whatever...

I need time to look at all these things.  But the woman on Legacy's incapacitated side is almost certainly Young Legacy, right?

I thought Mrs. Parsons

I'm pretty sure that Chrono-ranger's poncho is on plague rat's plague locus.  Maybe its a closed loop!  Maybe chrono ranger goes back in time to stop plague rat, and gets turned into a plague rat (thus making the future worse).

Or maybe I need to take a fistful of crazy pills.

Plague Rat probably took his poncho during one of their encounters. I'm sure Chrono-Ranger has extras.

I believe that the unidentified character on Visionary's Decoy Projection card is in the top right corner of the Vengeance artwork on the main ST Kickstarter page.

Does someone know whose boot is seen on Ambuscade's Rigged to Detonate ?

Looks like Wrait's to me

I don't know, looks like Wraith's to me.

Thanks - I'll have to spend more time looking at her shoes than her beautiful eyes :)

Wait. In the image for Demoralizing Presence, doesn't the figure in the foreground look a lot like incapacitated Haka?

I like it. but to me it looks like Horus of Two Horizons Ra

nice compilation!

I don't know if this counts for what you're to list here (since, admitedly, these are not clear images, but since some of these were mentioned in earlier posts in this thread, i thought i'd toss it out there ...)

At http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-shattered-timelines/posts/350410 if you scroll down about half-way there is an image for Vengeance.  Prior displays of this image tends to cut off right below the word vengeance.  However, with this zoomed-out view there are some people standing in the background behind the vengeance words..

starting with the V in Vengeance and going clockwise...

1) someone in green holding a blue energy orb

2) someone in grey with a "Hulk" like physique and a bulbous head

3) someone in a green with an orge-like build

4) someone with white hair and an eyepatch

5) someone who looks a lot like #3 but with different clothes (a twin, or another multiplying person? or a robot or clone?)

there are also some other random colors in there at the far back that could be clothing or body parts for other people, but i tried to just list people with at least partially discernable faces.

number 2 looks like "Hippopocalypse"

The last one looks like he has a sort of tentacle attachment weapon thing on his right arm which is giving off red, electrical-looking stuff. This makes me think he's the guy attacking Visionary's Decoy thingy in that card in her deck. I dunno about anyone else.

The guy with the globe is the same sorcerer as on NightMist's heedless lash. I think the charactrer with an eyepatch is one of Voss's Lietenants.

1) Nightmist's Heedless Lash

2) Hippo Man from Haka's EE Elbow Smash and first edition Savage Mana

3) Not sure who you'r refering to

4) Viktor from Voss

5) Visionary's Decoy Projection

Edit: Jeez Paul, stealing all my glory!

I try my best.

o hai, my name!

That should say Flak Cannon.

@ the OP, you don't seem to have any of Kismet's cards in this list.  Weak Heart (EDIT: and Violent Trickster) very distinctly shows the same character with the one-spot die on his chest shown on Shock Rounds.

Also, I had a thought about one of Chrono-Ranger's bounties, "The Whole Gang".  Wouldn't it be rather fitting for a group of "young punks" with ill intentions (and little evidence of being especially smart) to be nemeses to The Scholar?  Perhaps, given his hippyish look, he was just as radical as them in his youth, but now he's mellowed out and learned to appreciate the big picture, whereas they're all nihilists (and possibly vampires for extra fittingness) who want to make sure everyone dies before they grow old.

Wait, there's different art in the first edition?  Can I see it somewhere?

https://greaterthangames.com/sites/default/files/forum/attachments/hero_haka_08_x2.png

Also like your interpretation of the characters on the whole gang

I'm pretty sure I know who the Whole Gang... gang is, and -- spoilers, I guess -- the guy in the hippo suit is called The Hippo.

Well that's disappointing.  You just can't improve on a name like Hippocalypse.

Hippopotoman.

A recent discussion at my gaming group led to the child on Rhapsody of Vigor being nicknamed "Samwise", as we decided it kind of looked like a hobbit.

Fail.

On the other hand, if he called himself "Saint Augustine", I'd stand corrected.  It could still work as his "Steven Ulysses Pervillain"  real-name.

By columns, they are:

1. Absolute Zero, Argent Adept, Bunker, Chrono-Ranger
2. Expatriette, Fanatic, Haka, "-yfe"
3. Legacy, Mister Fixer, Nightmist, Omnitron X
4. "Pa-", Ra, ?, "-ck"
5. Tachyon, (Tempest?), Visionary, Wraith

Isidier Knowledge infor discovereed by McBehrer

So, now that the Vengeance heroes have been previewed on the site, we can fill in those last few heroes:

KNYFE goes between Haka and Legacy.  Parse goes before Ra, followed by someone, followed by Setback.

Notable missing folks are The Naturalist and The Sentinels (who would go right before Setback, so they'd fit in that slot...)

I BUILT THAT

You sure did, chief.  Which is why I wanted to fill in the blanks.

If you click on the picture at the bottom of Parse's bio, you can see two villains. One appears to be the Orange glowy guy that we've seen before (in Unity's deck and other places). The other appears to be made of water (perhaps some Calypso/Poseidon water deity type villain.

Also, if you click on the picture at the bottom of KNYFE's bio. Have we seen that guy before? He looks vaguely familiar and I don't have my cards in front of me at the moment. Or is he new?

That's not a villain, that's my mom.

But seriously, he's gotta be some big time villain, K.N.Y.F.E. has to have a serious nemesis with that backstory.

He is indeed pictured somewhere. Can't remember where. 

Also, Calypso is a rather decent guess. Though I think the other guy is not the orange glow guy in Unitys deck, but possibly the mud man found on cards like isolated hero. The twoface like mouth connector flesh is the giveaway there. 

This guy has about the same messed-up mouth as Char; perhaps Char can transform into a lava form which has no hair (and thus no mohawk).

I have a very definite theory that KNYFE's nemesis is going to be the "final boss" of Sentinels, and thus not encountered until the sixth and last expansion.

Do you think it is the Galactus-esq celectial being chewing on the Earth in Nightmists deck? It's gotta be.

The problem with last bosses is they are never the last boss.

Foote, are you talking about Mists of Time?  I don't think that is the same one as the K.N.Y.F.E. picture.

I'm thinking the shadowy figure holding the earth, we might be thinking of different images, I think that one is the force behind Cosmic Omnitron.

Which leads to one speculative question, with no more Sentinels card game kickstarters, will we get any more awesome villain remakes?

Cosmic Omnitron is awesome, as is Mad Bomber Blade.  I want more.  The ones I make aren't nearly as cool as the ones the >G guys make.

Or maybe you were saying that being would be K.N.I.F.E.'s nemesis, that could be.

That is indeed my theory.

Also that.

Which leads to one speculative question, with no more Sentinels card game kickstarters, will we get any more awesome villain remakes?

I plan on making a couple homebrew ones, if that's worth anything to you.

Cosmic Omnitron is awesome, as is Mad Bomber Blade.

They made new versions of those two because they're stupidly weak by comparison to other villains (the only difficulty 1s).  What I think >G should do is go in the opposite direction - make Difficulty 1 or 2 versions of some disproportionately difficult villains (Dreamy, Kismet, Birdbrain, I'm looking at you), so that you'll have more options for introducing new players to the game.

Ommitron is no pushover. He is certainly much more threatening than gloomy or ambuscade. 

Ambuscade has managed to put us in our place sometimes. If he gets Charged Shots at the wrong time, MAN does that hurt. Especially once he starts blowing up his own devices to chain the attacks all together.

That being said, KISMET? Really? She's already a 2, and a fairly low one at that. I don't think they should make more easy villains; there are already plenty of those, and you don't HAVE to play against the hard ones your first time. It's a different issue than having Blade and Omnitron, who are so weak that once you learn the game you'll never touch them again. (Although, I don't think Omnitron's THAT easy. He should be a 2, what with his Singularities, EMPs, Flachettes, and Terraforming.)

I am truly on the boat of hoping this game DOES have a final boss. I've been saying for a long time. For me, it's hard to determine whether Iron Legacy or The Chairman is the hardest boss in this game up to this point, but if everything were to go the way I want it to go, there'd eventually be an answer to "Who is the baddest?" And it'd be the cosmic being.

I don't just want this game to end with a villain who is about as tough as IL or Chairman--I want an unkillable monstrosity that can only be beaten with the most careful of planning and strokes of luck. The one villain we can point to and say "Yeah, that's the hardest." 

I've fought him twice, once on advanced, and both times Visionary made him her female-dog.  He doesn't have enough minions, his Components are easily destroyed, most of his effects don't fire until the second turn, TechSing does nothing against most Heroes since only a few of them are heavily into Equipment (I think it's maybe 1/3 offhand; the rest have maybe 1 or 2 in their deck), Terraforming is blank for the first several turns, and at most he plays 2 villain cards every other round, compared to La Capitan having at least two every single round until you can get the Boat to stay dead, and 1 more if Mable comes out.  My second game against Omnitron was only three heroes (granted one of them was Unity, but I was playing her for the first time, and she lost all her cards in play one round); I was deliberately trying to assemble a team that he'd have a fair chance of whomping, and he still rolled over in thoroughly pathetic fashion.  Flechettes is an extremely strong card, but it's pretty much the only thing in his deck I fear, unless I'm playing a hero who relies on Equipment.  Maybe it's just that Visi is his Kryptonite, but I don't buy it.  I think he's weaker than Baron Blade, and probably about equal with Gloomy (the Cultists are definitely meaner than Omni's silly little Drones, one of which is like the Explosive but with 1/3-1/5 the HP, and both of them only hit the single highest hero there is, which is pretty much "not even trying" compared to the minions of Voss, Dawn or Dreamy).

The book lists her at 3, and I think that seems valid.  She made me sweat; ironically, she lost because luck was on my side, as she repeatedly failed to resolve Karmic Disjunction.  Had that actually landed, though…one time I started resolving it by mistake, and ALL FOUR of the cards were Jinxes, which would have meant her attack was +4 damage, and it hits all heroes.  At the very least, she's a high 2, but I could believe 3…and conceptually, she doesn't deserve to be that solid.  She's just a punk kid with a stolen gewgaw which makes her lucky; instead, she ends up as this psycho-kinetic wrecking bacll.  (Granted, it probably didn't help that we fought her in the Final Wasteland and she was using Abominable Snowmen to block our attacks.  And just when I was getting ready to take that card out, she busts out Lady Luck and I had to kill that instead, so we basically sat on our hands for two rounds until I draw my other Ongoing destroyer.)

I don't think they should make more easy villains; there are already plenty of those

Yeah, while I've had easy GAMES, Omnitron and maybe Baron Blade are the only easy VILLAINS IMO.  Anyone with minions is a steamroller, and even Ambuscade and Gloomy strike me as solid 2s, just because they have at least one way of dealing a huge amount of damage (Rocket Launcher from the High Ground, or the Ronway cultist with a +1 from one of the Relics).

and you don't HAVE to play against the hard ones your first time. It's a different issue than having Blade and Omnitron, who are so weak that once you learn the game you'll never touch them again.

This part I do agree with; they definitely deserved the upgrades.  But I think it ought to work in the other direction too.

See, there's your problem. 2 data points is not enough for a reasoned conclusion

Also you used Visionary both times.  This makes sense of why you would believe Visionary too powerful and Omnitron too weak.  Visionary is phenomenal vs. Omnitron, even if he doesn't get EPE.  WtM isn't nearly as good vs. other decks, because often you take as much damage as you give, or more, On an EPE it is the win button.

I honestly don't have much trouble with minion heavy villains, Akash is the only one I really get steamrolled by, and that is becasue I love playing her in final wasteland.

Wrest the Mind wasn't a major factor in either of those wins.  The first, non-advanced win was largely due to four heroes getting Legacy's damage boosts, but in the second, Visionary utterly dominated Omnitron with Precognition and Suggestion.  He has more situationally-weak cards than nearly any other villain - Precognition on Voss is nearly worthless, because you're usually just choosing which of three Minions to bring out, determining little other than whether you take cold damage or psychic.  But with Omnitron, she made him waste his turns replaying TechSing twice after all the equipment was already gone, and Brain Burned his destroyed Drones so that all he could recycle were a couple "fires at the start of the villain turn" Components, which were easily destroyed over and over.

I do plan to try Omnitron eventually with a non-Visionary party, just as I will never again play Fanatic against the Dreamer.  But I thought part of the idea with Sentinels was that "any hero group can beat any villain in any environment".  That ought to go both ways - any hero group ought to have to work at beating any villain in any environment.  Visionary seems to just be an "I win button" against Omnitron, and that's even worse than Fanatic vs. Dreamer, because Visi and Omni are in the same box.  There's no way they weren't playtested against each other, so maybe the designers could have made this match a little less one-sided.

I honestly don't have much trouble with minion heavy villains, Akash is the only one I really get steamrolled by, and that is becasue I love playing her in final wasteland.

Ooh, good thought!  I put her in Insula Primalis for similarly thematic reasons, but Wasteland is even better.

Ha! Have to disagree on that one - being able to avoid Voss's ships is a huge benefit!

Yeah, actually it's about how many targets are in the Environment deck, as AB has triggers tied to that. The Wasteland has the most targets of any Environment we've seen to date. (And I really hope we don't get one with more! )

To say nothing of all but eliminating the chance for a Forced Deployment, or keeping Voss limited to enemies that only hit one party member, rather than all.

And Gene-Bound Guards…seriously.  Hate those guys.

I said "nearly".  Yes it'd be nice to get rid of the ships, or the Translocator, or a Forced Deployment.  But all of those together are like 7 cards, with the other 18 being Minions.  A few minions are more or less nasty, so the ability to exercise veto power over them might be somewhat beneficial - but if you find that the next three cards are Minions and you send 2 of them to the bottom (which you must), you might just be bringing the Ship or something similarly nasty closer to being played.

Well, she only blocks the first time each turn, so if you have someone who hits multiple times (Chrono, Omni, etc.) you can hit her with a weak one first and then blast her into oblivion for the rest of the turn.

That was what I was doing, and it got two Yetis into play before the other guy convinced me to knock it off.  It was hardly worth it for the piddling few damage I managed to deal, and she healed herself later anyway.

bump.

I added this to the wiki

http://sotm.wikidot.com/character-references

And added the 

Dark Watch Promo - Incapacitated - Mister Fixer: Man in a grey hooded outfit, with a red symbol and a large blade.

to the list.

The "giant biker" on Iron-fist strike is pretty obviously Mainstay, so that should probably change. You may also remove the "identified by Reckless as The Master," as that is in no way an authoritative source.

When Vengeances comes out, I'll change what needs changing and add the Vengeance cards. Until then, it's not worth the hassle to change a couple of cards. If new information comes in to change the indetifications, I'll update them. At present, nothing more authorative than Rabit's suggested identification has been provided.

Updated with Vengeance cards.

I would say based off the "wrath of the cosmos" box art that looking at "Projected Paralysis - The Dreamer" it has to be Skyscraper.  

Did anyone notice the 2 characters on the right-hand segments of thepicture included in the latest email news update?


They look like a gladiator and an Endling to me, though I am just guessing.

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What about the two in vats from the latest Kickstarter update?

Yes. I then, just before I posted, realised that they were a sulph-orc and techno-metallic dwarf from Galactic Strike Force.

they've been in the vats for a while.  You can actually get a better look at them in the Bio-mimetic Plasma Vat.  

Ooooooh. Thanks! We don't play in Pike that often.

Ok so we have a few more pieces. Who is left in the artwork that we still don't know? Lets speculate.

1) We have the yellow/orange armor guys found scattered throughout a bunch of decks. 

Prediction: These guys could be related to Biomancer in addition to the robot look-a-likes we see in Argents deck and Legacys in Tactics. But my money is on them being the invasion force of our big bad cosmic entity.

2) We have the man on Expats "Quick Draw" and in the Sentinels deck "Hipocratic Oath"

Prediction: Expats Father!

3) The Soloman Grundy-esque frankenstien guy seen in Tachyons "Lightspeed Barrage" and in Wraiths Tactics cards

Prediction: I have no idea whatsoever.

4) We have the giant red guy seen in Tempests "Flash Flood" and in the Sentinels "Coordinated Assault"

Prediction: Geeze these are getting hard. No clue. Thought he might have been a gene bound something, but am not sure this is the case at all

5) We have the Sabertooth-esque guy found in Visionary's "Suggestion" as well as Beacons Tactics cards

Prediction: Hello? Mcfly? Anyone home? Again, not a single idea.

6) The "golden" outline of a villain found on Rook City Wraiths incap side

Prediction: Yeah...might be the soloman grundy dude...but I have serious doubts about that. I just didn't want to not have another guess.

7) The robot(s) with a green glowing brain found in KNYFE's deck (and possibly others)

Prediction: Could be related to the Host or our Cosmic Entity. Hard to tell. But they have cosmic-y roots for sure

8) We have the spaceman seen in Sentinels "Black Out"

Prediction: We know his name (I think). It's Riot Ray (flavor text in Beacons Tactics cards). But where he fits in is anyones guess.

9) The black creature in Setbacks "Cause and Effect"

Prediction: I think this is obviously Writhe gone horribly wrong (see his incap art).

10) Ninjas in KNYFE's deck

Prediction: I think these guys are connected to Zhu Long/Operative/Heartbreaker. Like a "League of Shadows" type organization

Have I missed any big ones? There will be a few added to this list when WotC goes live as well.

There is A LOT of ground to cover here in just two expansions. Like, a metric butt ton of characters and story to be explored. What do you guys think? Do I have it right? Wrong? Got a guess where I failed miserably? 

Hippocratic Oath only features three characters. Expatriette, Dr. Medico, and Chrono-Ranger. None of them look like the man on Quick Draw.

Thats Chrono? 

That's who I always thought was on that card

We've had this discussion before, that's him wearing his standard gear under the poncho. (goes to find link)

Silly Hey! Listen! Man. We go to find Zelda, not Link.

I'll like to take a moment to point out that Hippocratic Oath's flavor text is from Cosmic Challenge, quite similar to Cosmic Contest.

Well I didn't find it.

But I did think of another Ronway dead hero joke.

I think it's "Ultimate Challenge" and not Cosmic. Unless it was changed from the proofs. Dont have cards in front of me.

I know it's "Cosmic Challenge", I pulled the card out when you mentioned the character from Quick Draw appearing on it, making sure that I did not miss someone.

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Well I didn't find it.

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I found it!

https://greaterthangames.com/comment/57736

Hmmm. Interesting. I wonder why it was changed from the Proofs. In addition, I wonder if Cosmic Challenge and Cosmic Contest are also the same (being just another name revision)

Hey Christopher, I got more questions for the Letters Page!

Or it's like Marvel's Infinity crossovers. There's like 10 different crossovers with the word infinity in the title. 

And how many "Secret Wars"?

^

There are like 10 different comic titles in WotC flavor text with "Cosmic" in the name so I guess this doesn't surprise me.

Sort of off topic here on this but, did I miss where 2 expansions were confirmed for SotM? Last I heard, we had just 1 left with that last Mega Expansion of Doom.

Not sure where you got that from.

It's not been "officially" confirmed how many are left. Paul said somewhere in the comment section of the preorder updates that SotM has roughly a 2 year timeline until completion. There has been 1 expansion per year basically since the game came out. I just did the quick math. It also fits with some of the vauge hints I gleened while working at Gen Con.

For quite a while, some of us were sure that GtG had confirmed that there would be six total expansions. Some time relatively recently, GtG made some comments that disabused us of that notion. Some of us now have the notion that there are two remaining expansions. Are we right? Nothing has been definitively announced.

Yeah, who knows Andy. I'm just taking what I know at the moment and making an educated guess.

The yellow and orange guys appear in Sky-scraper's deck (I got Wrath earlier today) and the art makes me think they are robots, she's crushing one and another looks like it's been torn or something and blue energy is arcing around them.

If they are robots maybe they fit in with Biomancer? Though I'm still leaning towards F.I.L.T.E.R.

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Ooh, maybe like the Sentinels from X-men... that could work really well.

I had the same feeling of robots that you did looking at that card. I have my doubts about being related to Biomancer though. I think FILTER might be a better guess.

The main reason I feel this way is Omnitron-X's "Defensive Blast". It's true that not all flavor text matches with the art, but if we are going off the assumption that it does in this case, the picture becomes pretty interesting. The quote is from the comic "Terminus" (which I speculate might end up being the name of either the final expansion and/or our big cosmic bad). X says something to the tune of "End times? These are your end times". Given the close ties that FILTER no doubt has to Progeny and whatever is coming, FILTER seems like a great guess for these dudes.

Just wondering if anyone was gonna update it to WotC, also, (this seemed like the most appropriate place to put it) does anyone know who that rock thing is behind Haka in Title "The Unbreakable"?

I believe that thing behind Haka is Tryragon-Rex, you can see 2 of the heads and the tail.

I'll update when I have a copy of Wrath of the Cosmos to update from. Blame France. Or Ronway

[EDIT] And now updated.

The character on Wounding Buffer should be Korruption from The Enclave of the Endlings

No, it definitely isn't.

I'll have to look at the card art again but I could've sworn it was the Korruption. 

No, it isn't. Korrupton is insectoid, while the laser beam guy has curved ox horns and appears as bulky humanoid.

And the wounding buffer guy has purple armor/suit thing

The unknown soldiers in orange/yellow on e.g. Incidental Contact are called Aeon Men.

Yeah?

Unless someone at >G is being very tricksey (and what are the chances of that), yeah.

That's the first time I've heard the word. Was this mentioned online somewhere or in person?

Yeah, me too. But it's fully available to the general public on this site if you know where to look.

Scavanger hunt go!

Found it, thanks dude!

Link?

But that ruins the scavenger hunt for everyone else. I couldn't do that.

I can, but where's the fun in that?

The answer is here for those who don't want the thrill of discovering something new on the site.

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What is the card art for Incidental Contact?  I don't have cards in front of me and won't be able to get to them for a while.  

It's the soliders in Orange/Yellow jumpsuits with a blue visor.

On a related note, are those art pieces for the SotM Game App? I'm not familiar with some of them.

Ronway tells me they're from Story Wars.

That makes sense to me.

Aeon Men. Given the etymology of the word, combined with Omnitron-X's flavor text from "Terminus" and the Aeon Men's apperance on that card, there is probably enough circumstansial evidence to link them with our cosmic entity. Wonder if The Host fits into this at all.

My, that artwork is lovely!  

Updated. Thanks, Matchstick Man.

I never knew all that character art existed, thanks for the link.  Will be really useful for painting the Tactics minis.

Anyone know if there are good pics like that of the Citizens?  I have a bunch of unpainted minis that Ive kept pushing to the back of the queue as I can't find many good 'promo' type pics of them.

Not sure it's been listed already but the character on Nimble Strike and Uncharmed Life is Glamour according to Art Assets released by GtG much like Aeon Men was revealed.  

Quickdraw character identified! It's Ambuscade!

Can't wait to check out the podcast to learn more about this. It's certainly unexpected.

Yeah, I remembered hearing somewhere that it was a rare good cop in Rook City that alternated between trying to arrest her and ending up helping her.

It was a "cop" for sure!

Quickdraw?

Yes.  They reveal in the current episode on Expat who is the other person.  

Okay, so the character Quickdraw was first mentioned in the Podcast?

There is card called QuickDraw in Expat's deck that has her pointing a gun at another guy who is holding up a gun at her.   There is no character called QuickDraw we know of. 

I know of one!

In respect of SotM.  I'm aware of Quick Draw McGraw.   I don't even need the link to know that is where it would take me.  

Certainly would show up in Silver Gulch if he were a part of SOTM.

Why did I think this was the Expatriette thread? >.<

Hey gang!

So I may be missing this somewhere, but do we know who the silhouettes on "Old Tricks--New Allies" in Vengeance Baron Blade's deck are? They aren't the Vengeful Five, that's for sure. Looking at the silhouette, I'd guess that the two on the right are Tantrum and Argentium, and I think the one on the far left may be Choke, but I can't seem to find confirmation anywhere, and have no real clue as to who the two others are (or even where the tentacles are coming from). Anyone have any guesses on this?

Also, in case the news hasn't reached this thread yet--the big red dude with the cross on his chest in Tempest's "Flash Flood" and Sentinels' "Coordinated Assault" is Borr the Unstable.

https://greaterthangames.com/comment/175103#comment-175103

In order on Old Tricks-New Allies, ltr

Choke, identifiable from the armour cuffs

Vyktor, Thorathian shoulder spikes

Major Flay, tentacles

Argentium, liquid bidy

Tantrum, bangs

I wonder if we should go through this thread and see if there is still anyone we can't identify now that we know 9/10's of the Scions.

I'm far too lazy and tired to do it today though.

Some of us have been updating the wiki with this info when it's revealed.  I skipped Ambuscade, though--I think we have some art of Ambuscade in disguise, but I'm not confident which ones they are.

The only one I know for certain is the Cop from Quick Draw, with him and Expat staring each other down.

All the other cops I've seen from Rook City look to be Tony Taurus.

We’ve also learned from the Letters Page that Ambuscade is depicted on Quick Insight.

I think the cop holding up Rook City Wraith on the incapacitated side of her new art might also be Ambuscade in disguise. Too many differences between that one and Tony Taurus.

Thank you!