The Potential Scions of OblivAeon

Confirmed as of [Editing] this post: Aeon Master (new), "Super Sonic" Progeny, Voidsoul (Writhe's shadowy symbiote thing), Sanction (celestial tribunal) 

Speculative:

Galactra - It's a no brainer that we will see Galactra as one of the scions. She references having knowledge that Captain Cosmic and his brother got their powers from Oblivion Shards and seems to weild an almost identical power as them in a different shade of color. Given all three have strong ties to OblivAeon and Galactra calling Cap Cos an "imposter", I'm betting the farm that we will see her in the final battle to come.

Empyreon - As a cosmic powered individual with EON at the end of its name, Empyreon makes a lot of sense as being a scion. What sells me more on this idea however is that Empyreon shows up in Cosmic Concurrence #15. Cosmic Concurrence #1 is all about Omnitron II. Cosmic Concurrence is also the book that gives us the comic Scions Aid. It seems to me that the Cosmic Concurrence book has a ton of OblivAeon related material so his apperance in the book certainly catches my eye. We see OblivAeon's hand on Cap Cos's incap art, so having two minor nemesis targets for Cap be Scions of OblivAeon doesn't seem to far fetched either as they are all pretty closely related.

• It's worth mentioning that Greezer is in Cosmic Concurrence for a few issues from #13-18 as well but I am not keen on him being a scion as I am Empyreon. I really feel Greezer is a "B Storyline" in the comic, a side piece of comedy while bigger stuff is going on. Consider that Deadline is also quoted in Cosmic Concurrence #13-18 as well. What do you suppose is the main storyline between those two right? But the Cosmic Concurrence book does bring us some other good guessing material. For instance, we have...

Rahazar - Who is this guy? No idea. But he has two big things going for him to put him in the potential scion catagory. The first is his apperance in Cosmic Concurrence #14. The second one that ties this together is that, somehow for some reason, his nemesis is Parse. Recall that Parse got her powers basically from OblivAeon when it created Omnitron II, and that the same exact thing happened to her a 2nd time to send her into the Fuge State promo territory. Both are direct connections to OblivAeon. Rahazar, given that context, really interests me as a scion.

Ruin - Now that we sorta know a little bit more about The Void, it's importance to the OblivAeon story, and it's connection to Argent Adept, I think a second look needs to be given to Ruin. I don't really have a convincing argument for why Ruin could be a scion other than his possible connection to the Void and Adept though. His quote from V5 Barons deck seems pretty rad though. He could be a being of The Void though which would give him more speculative scion clout then a lot of other guesses.

We don't know what fully happened with Chokepoint and her deck has flavor text from Cosmic Concurrence #19 which appears to be her attack on the Sentinels and Ft Adamant.  

Four letters: V-O-S-S

I guess when I heard scion initially I was thinking of the scions in progenys deck; a pain and hard to get rid of. Now that we know they're character cards, I figured they were still to the likeness of progenys scions but with hp. But they're actually probably villains on the side of Oblivean? That's neat too. It means various things to look at rather than different colored blobs. And I think it opens the opportunity for the scions to have nemesis symbols since I imagine Oblivean will not. 

Yeah, the names of the Scion cards are descriptors of Progeny: it is the Scion of Blight, the Scion of the Storm, et cetera, as one of OblivAeon's scions. So Progeny is back as one such Scion and we're getting nine others.

Voss seems likely, as does the thing on Scion's Aid; whether the two are the same remains to be seen...

If there is a Super Sonic Progeny, could there be other scions that are Progeny clones of other heroes? Like "America's Greatest" Scion or "The Price of Freedom" Scion?

I think Super Sonic Progeny was a play on Sonic the Hedgehog, not Tachyon, lol. After collecting all the chaos emeralds, Sonic becomes all golden and invincible (like Progeny now is!). Hilarious analogy!

Yeah, Voss and Galactra for sure. I really think that the dark passenger that left Visionary (see Unleashed Visionary promo) is another scion, probably he one seens in Scion's Aid.

Ok im glad someone got what I was doing there.

Fun Fact! There is 1 card in SotM that is a clear reference to Sonic the Hedgehog. Can you find it?

scion means part of the same family doesn't it? Hmmm interesting. 

I believe that would be Friction's supersonic streak.

Correct!

I've just noticed "sonic" is an anagram of "scion" as well :D.

Tails would be an awesome Scion.

Truly, it is those who fly above us (on physically-impossible organic helicopters) who have the furthest to fall.

Voss is high on my list.

Another on my list is Kaagra Warfang, she made a deal with some "cosmic entity" and gained the Bloodsworn Colleseum and the ability to move it thru reality.

It is also interesting to note, Wrath of the Cosmos came with Infinitor, Kaagra, Deadline, and Progeny.

Infinitor was directly tied to OblivAeon and was killed saving his brother. Progeny is a Scion for OblivAeon. Deadline is now fighting with the heroes against OblivAeon. Kaagra is not mentioned, and that would make her the only one not connected in some manner

I give Voss a 10% chance to be in OblivAeon. I'm reasonably sure that Voss isn't slated to be seen again until Tactics IIRC. I know folks have been itching for Voss, but I think that payoff is a ways away.

I'm totally on board with Kaagra

Just so I fully understand scion is synonymous with minion? It would be cool if some of the mini nemeses return as scions as is being suggested here. It'll cool to hear the ties between the scions and the new heroes, because I'm sure those are where the nemesis match ups happen. 

Scion is not synonymous with minion. More like lieutenant.

I can't be certain, but didn't we get some sort of confirmation that the art on O-X's Reset is from around the time of OblivAeon? I've never had much doubt that the shadowy figure getting punched in Reset is Voss, and if that art is from a time when the Scion's were active I'd say the percentages rise sharply.

Viktor, Tamar and Tyler Vance confirmed as Scions.

Dammit, Lowsley, we can't have any more stunts like what you just pulled!  Get out of here, before I bust you down to Scion."

The flavor text is from Freedom Five Annual #30 but I'm not sure the artwork matches with the text especially since we see the normal Omnitron in the card and not Omnitron-U

True, but we see the normal Omnitron-X body fighting the Aeon men in Defensive blast. Very likely that O-U reassembled his old body and then rebooted it, hence "Reset"

I could see that.   I would argue that the figure in the background of Reset is not necessarily Voss.   

Was that lady with the green fire and armor in the Twitch stream Citizen Dawn as a Scion?

It was Sanction and I doubt it 

I think it's Celestial Adjudicator as a Scion

THats two more scions we know of now. Sanction and VoidSoul (?). Also Christopher said about half are new characters and halfish of the scions are familiar villains. 

And they literally have no choice but to help Oblivean. 

he said some were compelled and some were volunteers. 

He also said they literally had no choice.

So really the only difference is whether they agreed to be scions the first time OblivAeon asked…or the second.

I wonder if Voidsoul counts as new given that we've seen him on Writhe's incap but never been officially introduced.  If he's new that would mean that we have 2 new ones (with Aeon Master) and Sanction and Progeny we've seen before (they've been their own decks or targets).

He also confirmed one of the Scions would essentially be a double agent of sorts, working for his/her/its own means against OblivAeon

Voidsoul shows up on Cause and Effect in Setback's deck which was the first time we saw him and it has flavor text from Freedom Five Annual #30.    Where did we see Sanction before?

I think she's the Celestial Adjudicator from the Celestial Tribunal environment.

Wow nice catch! Completely missed that but had this feeling Sanction looked familiar.

Even the background is similar to her card in Celestial Tribunal.   Considering where she came from it makes me wonder if she would be the one from Scion's aid.  Only piece that seems off is this her eyes are red in the deck but in that drawing her eyes are yellow.

Some more proof that Sanction is definitely Adjudicator... The filename he saved it as was "Corrupted Adjudicator"

I'd bet a shiny penny that the Scion's Aid one is a character with a little more personal resonance among the players than the Adjudicator.

There are still other possibilities sure but the Adjudicator of the known Scions would be my guess currently.  

If the "Aiding Scion" is a fixed character (rather than randomly decided by a mission during the game, for instance), it seems too massive and muscular to be Sanction, on the cover we know.

Christopher has revealed the traitorous scion's character card will have mechanics that reflect it's duplicitous nature, so I doubt it will be randomly decided.

He also mentioned that the traitor is the only scion powerful enough to resist Oblivaeon's control. Even with what little we know about Big O, that's definitely not a feat to be taken lightly. 

hmmm this begs the question is this someone we already know? Progeny maybe? 

It is almost assured to be someone we know already, because there would be no point in hiding their identity otherwise.

It will be someone we know. From the livestream:

Mirado28: @gtgchristopher if we guess who the Scion is that's "aiding" the heroes will you confirm it or just deflect it in your usual wonderfully cryptic manner? 

GTGChristopher: @Mirado28 I will definitely not confirm it. You can guess all you like, but you will find out when you get the game in hand. Even the playtesters will not know.

cmschex: oh this is going to be a fun challenge in playtesting…

cmschex: trying to guess who the double agent is

GTGChristopher: @Cmschex Oh, you'll know the double agent. Just not their true identity.

cmschex: well that isn't mysterious at all 

GTGChristopher: @Cmschex *juggles smoke bombs*

That certainly sounds like it's a familiar face.

My guess is that the Cursed Acolyte is a Svion and OblivAeon took his pants.

It's a Fixed Point.

I wonder if Ra is a possibility?

Technically the first apperance of Voidsoul would be base Writhe's incap art from a timeline perspective. But good call on the flavor text of C&E being from Freedom Five Annual #30

Also! From the recent livestream, it was confirmed that Dark Visionary partly resides in the Void. The incap art for Citizen Hammer shows them in the Void as well. This seems rather significant to me. I am fully on the Dark Visionary = Scions Aid bandwagon after that little nugget of knowledge.

What about The Scholar? This is a complete shot in the dark, and I don't really have any evidence to back it up, except that we see him begin to vanish on his Infinite incap side, and this could be how he returns. That's a huge stretch but I've got no other ideas. Though I'd also enjoy seeing Dark Visionary as the aide as well.

My guess is Mrs. Parsons.

Idk about that really. One of the things I have been tackling with is the timeline of things. Let's examine:

Oblivion Shards are the direct result of OblivAeon being hurt (as we learned from the art streams). We also know from those streams that the Scion who is aiding us has hurt OblivAeon before (which was also hinted at in the Scions Aid comic). We have seen or heard of at least 2 oblivion shards in the card game prior to the final expansion (also confirmed by the art stream). Those 2 being the one Captain Cosmic/Infinitor found for their powers, and the one the Scholar found to create his Philosophers stone (and Scholars first apperance is Mystery Comics #1. Super early!).

Whoever the Scion is that is aiding us has been around for quite a long time and predates Scholar at the very least. What interests me about the Dark Visionary angle is the nugget about her being connected and partially residing in the Void. It's possible that through her interactions with the timestream and the Void being at least partially temporal in nature that the connection ends there. But DVis hits a lot of check marks for the Scion however. She has personal familiarity with a lot of our heroes, doesn't nessesarily wanna destroy the whole world, desires power, ect, and this Void connection is a strong link to the end of the story.

The shard that The Scholar found was created by OblivAeon being hurt, but it need not have been the mysterious traitorous Scion that did the hurting. I assume there are other entities in the universe that haven't visited earth.

OblivAeon being hurt occurred toward the end of SotM storyline and Scholar has had his stone made from a shard long before OblivAeon was a threat.  So timeline wise that doesn't make sense 

OblivAeon was hurt by the Ra attack. How would the Scion know OblivAeon could be hurt (remember the Scion comes to our heroes before Ra's big attack)? And where did the shard that Cap Cosmic find come from?

OblivAeon has been hurt before the Sentinel Comics timeline starts. Ras attack was not the first time he was wounded.

I said that in one of the art Q&As that it was said that the Scion is the one who did the hurting

We assume he has.   I haven't read anything that says the OblivAeon shards came to be because OblivAeon got hurt.  It could just occur because of his presence or essence that exists out there.  

It was explicitly stated in one of the Art Q&As

Sorry, I missed that! I know it's been confirmed that the Scion had hurt OblivAeon, and that all Oblivion shards come from OblivAeon being hurt. Was it confirmed that the specific shard that The Scholar found came from the Scion hurting OblivAeon? (Or could it have been some other instance of OblivAeon being hurt?) Thanks!

Can you provide that quote because I definitely don't recall seeing that one.   

I don't know if it matters really. I can't see why it would. But there is only 2 confirmed instances of OblivAeon being hurt, so as far as we can tell the presence of the oblivion shards in the early parts of the story came from the time our friendly-ish scion hurt him. Keep in mind Scholars first apperance is Mystery Comics #1, so it had to have happened before that.

You'll have to search through the transcripts of them all. I don't recall which one it was from, but I think it was from not this past Q&A but the one before that. It was something I asked though.

I found it then which I had missed before and it should be listed in this thread 

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> Gtgbigfoote: @Gtgchristopher do Oblivion shards come from OblivAeon himself or do they come from the Void? Neither?
> GTGChristopher: @Gtgbigfoote They are parts of OblivAeon. They occur when OblivAeon has been dealt a LOT of damage. They all are tied to specific events.

> Gtgbigfoote: @Gtgchristopher So, your saying that OblivAeon has been damaged way before the final events of this Expansion? Or is this Timey-Whimey shenanigans that explain shards appearing early in the story
> GTGChristopher: @Gtgbigfoote Definitely. You recently read about one of those times, even. http://sotm.wdfiles.com/local--files/sotm-arg/scionsaid.jpg

> Gtgbigfoote: @Gtgchristopher Im still curious about the oblivion shards coming from OblivAeon being damaged. Is it the case that OblivAeon was hurt indirectly by hero actions in earlier parts of the story and they just didnt know it? Trying to figure out how Cap Cosmic found thier stone.
> GTGChristopher: @Gtgbigfoote Why do believe that Scion's Aid happened that early?

> Gtgbigfoote: @Gtgchristopher OK I see what you are saying. So is it the case that previous battles with Scions (unknown to the heros at the time) kind of indirectly damaged OblivAeon?
> GTGChristopher: @Gtgbigfoote Yes! There. You've got it now.
> GTGChristopher: @Gtgbigfoote Though most Scions have not damaged OblivAeon.

Also, the "fixed point" thing is interesting. Maybe I get it the wrong way, but it seeems to me that for the multi/universe to continue to exist (past the Oblivaeon events), a "fixed point" event has to occur in every timeline (Vanessa Long having powers in this case). Perhaps the reason for this "fixed point" to occur is to allow the defeat of Oblivaeon, as Dark Visionary might be one of the only powerful enough entity to deal with this cosmic being.

Random but related thought… if Benchmark is the only hero of the Supply and Demand universe, what’s the story with that universe’s Vanessa Long? We know each Vanessa has powers we don’t know they’re all heroes…

It was my understanding that the Fixed Points in time were what OblivAeon was using to destroy everything and condence it. It seems like the fixed points help him mroe than hurt him

Nothing says Supply & Demand might not have decided that the world was better off with The Dreamer dead if he couldn't rescue her. Heroes make hard choices some times.

Or she got powers but she's not a superhero.

Yeah, signs point to "world of evil supers".

Okay everyone, last night I found a leak to one of the Scions. This might be the one from Scion's Aid--I think I recognize this. Spoilers ahead. Check it out before this gets taken down.

This is terrible news EvanDan55

I'm pretty sure this is how OblivAeon travels between the Multiverses and the Void.

How many Aeonmen do you think can fit inside?

Interesting, and I admit it would make sense. Do you have any evidence supporting this theory?

From Christopher himself in this post https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/the-child-is-the-center-8623

So, Kickstarter updates tell us there are ten Scions.  And "about half" are familiar villains, so sayeth the twitch feeds.  Thus, 4-6 Scions are established villains (in an "exact words" kind of way, others could be known heroes, but I'll disregard that for now).  Of those, we know about Progeny - despite us having first met him already functioning as a Scion, he's still an existing villain going into OblivAeon.  We can also be reasonably confident about the Celestial Ajudicator, though it wasn't a villain per say - I'm not sure whether it counts within the "about half".

That means we're looking for another 2-5 Scions.  The ones mentioned in this thread are:

• Chokepoint

• Empyreon
• Galactra
• Kaargra Warfang
• Miss Information
• Rahazar
• Ruin
• Voss

Miss Information is on this list, because although I mentioned the possibility in a different, similar thread and nobody else seems to agree, this post is self-referential.

Ra, Visionary, and The Scholar are the heroes I've seen discussed, but as I mentioned above, we don't have any statements to go off of regarding Hero Scions, so I am leaving them out of this list.

Looking at the list itself, it breaks down very neatly into 4 "main character" villains and 4 "mini-Nemeses" from Vengeance-style decks.  looking for 2-5 things out of a set of 4 should give rather predictable results, so if GTG overwhelmingly favors either type of villains over the other, most of the relevant entries could be correct!  A mix, of course, would be harder to anticipate.  Since our available data is one solo villain and one Environment target, however, I don't have a solid theory on that yet.

Without that, it's down to rampant speculation.  Of these, I would be least surprised by Miss Information (well, she is my pet theory, after all), and most surprised by Chokepoint, who has already transformed from mini-nemesis out to solo villain with a minimum of fanfare - it doesn't seem like the character is sufficiently popular to push further.

What do others think about the options?

What about Voidsoul? He was drawn on the stream, called a Scion.

and sanction.  I think ,aye he included them without saying them not sure though. 

Sanction is mentioned in the first paragraph, as Celestial Adjudicator.  I note there that I don't whether that gets counted against prior villains or not, since it technically wasn't one.  That's why the number we're expecting is 2-5: 4-6 for "about half" of 10, minus 1 for Progeny, minus 1-0 for Sanction.

Voidsoul, though, I don't count.  It seems unlikely to me (though it is possible) that Christopher meant half of the Scions are characters we've seen in art before - I assume he meant actual cards.

I mean, during the art stream, Voidsoul was referred to as a Scion. Adam asked Christopher "Should I tell them the Scion's name?" before revealing the name Voidsoul.

i think he's counting it, just not as a villain we've face before. 

That.

Nailed this one Foote.

So the Scions that have been revealed are:

The Aeon Master

A Renewed and Golden Progeny

Sanction (a corrupted version of the A.I. of the Celestial Tribunal)

Voidsoul (the black line creature we've been associating with Writhe)

Empyreon (younger looking without the hole in his chest, does Empyreon suffer from us seeing his future before his past?)

Did I miss anyone?

Oh, gotcha.

Oh! I missed this, thanks! That being said, it kind of implies that OblivAeon has been interested in Vanessa Long before the SotM finale. Is OblivAeon creating these fixed points, or is he only finding and using them…?

What if the Scion's Aid scion is not "Dark Visionary" per se, but yet another version of Vanessa Long. I mean, if our Cosmic Entity is implied in this fixed point shenanigan, it just makes it more likely that one of the Vanessa actually know OblivAeon, right?

Now I am thinking that the entity possessing Dark Visionary was something dispatched by OblivAeon to serve his ends. Kind of like those mind-controlly spider things that were in Babylon 5.

I just caught up on the GenCon 2016 thread, so I thought it might be time to resurrect this one.

Confirmed 100%, in addition to Aeon Master, the gold Progeny, Voidsoul from Writhe's incap, and Sanction the Celestial Adjudicator:

• Nixious the Chosen, probably the previous owner of the Mask of the Matriarch.  Not sure if this counts as someone we've seen before, since we've known this person existed but not who they were.
• Darkmind, probably the dark aspect of Visionary.  We know Visionary finally "exorcised" this, so it's free to act on its own as a scion again.
• Borr the Unstable.  No clue who this guy seems to be.
• Faultless, who seems to be the double agent that advised the heroes in Scion's Aid.  But we also know the scion in that comic had a familiar voice, so what it his or her true identity?

That leaves only two (ish)!  Galactra and Empyreon are possibilities, but going from a mini-nemesis to a scion seems like a massive promotion to me.

A couple more that we seem to have hints about that haven't been mentioned yet:

• Fyodor Ramonat, Baron Blade's father, is still unaccounted for.  No suggestion he's any more than what he appeared, but come on, he's got to make an impact at some point.
• The Dark Conductor, previous owner of the artifact seen on the new version of Kvothe, was clearly a very bad person.  I don't think it's a coincidence that this was introduced so late, right before OblivAeon, and is clearly not just a reflavoring of Kvothe.

Also, do we know whether the scions have nemeses?  The prototype cards might have ommitted them, but that would be interesting.

Thanks for catching up on this. As always, when playtesting is ongoing, my speculation threads and footenotes series posts are put on hold. I have a hard time keeping track of what is general public knowledge and what isn't so I tend to just not say much if at all.

I have no confirmation one way or the other on my thoughts below (there are many mysteries to be solved even for playtesters. Christopher has hidden a lot from us to his credit so I wouldnt read much into my below thoughts), but I would generally agree with your assesments of the confirmed Scions.:

Nixious, to me, is by far and away the most interesting. If you recall my Footenotes on Matriarch, my original working theory was that the mask was connected to OblivAeon himself. That seems to be wrong in light of this new information, but the fact that the mask is connected to a large cosmic being means I wasn't too far off at all which is exciting. There could be a lot more to explore there and I can't wait to do so.

Dark Mind being the expelled brain traveler that was Dark Visionary makes far too much sense to me to not be true. If you bought the foil collectors cards with variant art I think we see what Dark Mind looks like as well making this pairing even more plausable.

Borr is a mystery. Not a lot to go on by name alone. There are still a small number of villains in SotM artwork that have not been accounted for just yet. Maybe he is hidden in that group? We could say the same for Nixious and Faultless as well.

Faultless I have some trouble with. Is it ​really our aiding Scion? Mechanically it might seem so from the GenCon demo, but there might be more going on than we know. I truely believe the aiding Scion is one of the biggest reveals >G still has yet up their cuffs since the setup for it was so huge. It's their last big play. Why would they make that reveal at a GenCon demo and not during the opening of your final copy at home? That doesn't fit. To my nose, this stinks of a Red Herring. Maybe the reveal is the true identity of Faultless, but that line of thinking is where good red herrings want you to go. Food for thought. I'm unconvinced.

OK, so sorry if I totally necro'd this thread, but I think in light of the recent update, I have an idea. The three scions given us are nemesis of the three main hero groups (Freedom Five, Prime Wardens and Dark Watch) but Nightmist's icon is not listed on Faultless' card. Setback, Expat, Fixer and Harpy (really just the OblivAeon icon) are on his card. Could this mean something about Nightmist? She clearly is powerful, possibly the most powerful hero in the game (excpet Guise of course).

We already know Nightmist has become mist summoning heroes from the Multiverse to fight OblivAeon and isn't coming back.   

If anything, I think it largely has to do with her becoming the gate by this point in the story, so she's no longer around by the time darkwatch faces faultless

That's an interesting point.  I figured Nightmist was absent there just because she's canonically gone by then (although I'm at a loss to explain Dark Watch's connection to Faultless).

So far, the following heroes don't have a Nemesis Scion–although note that Christopher implied that at least one scion will have a different nemesis or set of nemeses on its back:

• Nightmist
• Ra
• The Scholar
• Unity
• Guise
• Chrono-Ranger
• The Naturalist
• Omnitron-X (not counting Cosmic Omnitron)
• Sky-Scraper
• Parse 

I think the fact that they managed to take him down is the connection, and the fact that all the remaining members are all 'broken' in their own ways, yet they all manage to dis-connect Faultless from OblivAeon an thus return it to it's order form, could result in something of a Nemesis situation.

Oh, I totally forgot that Faultless was covered in the Expatriette podcast episode.  Never mind, that one makes perfect sense.  Although I wonder if he has a different nemesis on his reverse side.  It'd be pretty funny if he reverted back into an entity of order and gained Guise as a nemesis!

It bothers me that, even though Faultless is clearly supposed to be a Dark Watch nemesis, the fact that Harpy uses the OblivAeon nemesis symbol means that the other OblivAeon heroes are technically also nemeses

I do wish each of the new heroes had their own unique nemesis symbol as well.  

Yeah, it bugs me too.  It also means they're each others' nemeses, in case of friendly fire.  And in some cases, like Harpy, it doesn't even make a ton of sense--in the lore, she was a hero for a long time before she ever heard of OblivAeon.  The other new villain->heroes have a strong motivation for becoming a hero because of OblivAeon (except La Comodora, whose motivations still aren't well-known, and Young Luminary, who has a true nemesis who isn't in the game).  Not sure about Void Guard, either, I'm not sure why they abandoned their old nemeses and now care more about OblivAeon than anyone else does.

See, it actually made sense for me for Faultless, given it's actually freed of OblivAeon's control -- I wouldn't be surprised if the flip side was an outright helpful version of the character and acted directly against OblivAeon.

Know where that also bugs me?

The Sentinels all share the same icon, so they hurt each other. This is also applies to the Void Guard, since they all have the same nemesis icons.

So, Void Guard Mainstay can punch Sentinels Mainstay and deal himself extra damage while saying 'stop hitting yourself. stop hitting yourself.'

Actually, that gives me a good question for the Letters Page...

…and Medico can heal the Sentinels more with Hippocratic Oath!

Void Guard still has the same nemesis symbol as the Sentinels

Faultless at least makes sense with the Dark Watch because it “repairs” Setback. But that’s…helpful. I wonder what its flip side looks like!

You know what would be freaking terrifying?

If the final Scion was none other than Iron Legacy, plucked from out of time by ObvlivAeon and empowered to destroy his alternate universe parallels.  

It just occurred to me: Christopher said that the tenth Scion was in fact Tim Cosing.  And the one thing we know about Tim Cosing is that his name is 9 letters long.  Some possibilities:

• Aleksandr (Proletariat)
• Argentium
• Cassandra (Ermine)
• Biomancer
• Doc Tusser
• Gabrielle (Kismet)
• Jack Steel
• (Mayor) Overbrook
• Rainek Kel-(Voss)

If we follow the podcasts, Kismet is trapped in The Block, as of both the RPG and Tactics timelines, so it's not her.

Proletariat, too, is playable during Tactics, so he survives with no OblivAeon influence.

We also know that Doc Tusser was destroyed by Chrono-Ranger, after his white blood cells were engineered to devour his regenerating body.

We know also that Jack Steel dies during the Wagner Mars Base attack near the start of OblivAeon.

I don't think that either Ermine or Overbrook is emotionally charged enough to attract the attention of OblivAeon.

Voss, however....that's a likely candidate; we have yet to know his fate, too, since being flung into the Mists by Nightmist.  Argentium could make a neat Scion, but he seems more like a hired gun than anything else.  Biomancer, though?  Oh, that'd be gross...I like it!

I wasn't really serious about those suggestions, just compiling a list of 9-letter names.  Although I missed an interesting one, because I wasn't checking heroes: Nightmist.  Wouldn't that be a twist?

Yup, a look at the wiki proves that.

That would be quite the twist but one I think would fall flat.  

You'd think they'd mention something like that in the NightMist episode, though.

Tim Cosing is the helpful Scion, aren't they? That tips the scales in favor of Voss, maybe, since the scion said they were "beyond space and time" when OblivAeon found them.

Are there any other villain that we could have lost track of thqat could have become a Scion other than Voss? I'm still pretty sure it's him, but there's always a chance to convince me.

I'm inclined to say Faultless is the helpful Scion.

but in the letters page, it was said that faultless fixed darkwatch before basicly fading away, so I'd doubt that tim cossing is that anyways, plus it was said in the last update that the helpful scion was left for us to discover when oblivaeon ships

This might be another interesting point in favor of Nightmist, actually. She’s diffused her mist form into all the realities…

And it makes perfect sense that they wouldn’t say anything in her podcast. In fact, given how adamant they typically are that Nightmist is gone, done, fin, the end - it makes us all a little suspicious, doesn’t it?

We're all talking about the one on Scion's Aid, right? Because its dialog really sounds nothing like Nightmist would. 

Personally I think the way it speaks, calling everyone 'little heroes of earth' implies that it's (a) not a hero and/or (b) not of earth. I like Voss for it, but I'm nos sure, so I'll have to wait and see.

I'm pretty sure it's been explicitly said that Faultless is not the entity from Scion's Aid, that that's 'Tim Cosing,' the only scion we haven't seen.

Yeah, I meant I assumed that Tim Cosing was the scion from Scion's Aid, which leaves out Faultless. Sorry for the mixup.

I'm honestly struggling to think of who else it could be other than Voss that fits the whole "heroes already know them, smug and arrogant, probably not from Earth, was beyond time and space when they were found, doesn't want to trash everything", unless it's some minor Nemesis we currently know little info about. (Maybe Kaargra, but the scion comes off as a strategist, which doesn't really fit Kaargra but also fits Voss.)

It would set up an interesting lesser of two evils choice, too. Do you take OblivAeon's power to destroy all of reality to give it to someone who "merely" wants to enslave everyone instead?

Of course, given how the two timelines shake out, I'm expecting that helpful Scion to not survive the fight.

I’m not fully on board with the Voss theory, for the simple reason that I can’t think of why Voss would want to be helpful. I know he explains in the cover text, but it just doesn’t seem like Voss to me. Voss is much more straightforward, rather than duplicitous and conniving. He attacks with an army, he doesn’t set up wheels within wheels.

I agree that the dialogue doesn’t sound like Nightmist, either. And I’d expect her appearance to be mist-themed rather than energy-themed.

I guess I got nowhere on this.

The Scion (whoever they are) is not interested in being helpful.  They are interested in taking OblivAeon's power for themself.  The only way they can do that is with the heroes' cooperation, so they're playing ball in order to reap the rewards.  Also, they keep all their stuff in this universe.

And the description of Voss' coup sounds like it utilized plenty of subtly and machinations.  He may prefer overwhelming force, but that doesn't mean it's all he can use.

Any thoughts on it possibly being wager master?

Wager Master is as old as creation, isn't he? I would think that he might be the one being in existence that could deal with Oblivaeon directly.

Though he probably wouldn't want to.

Lets bet on it…

Void Guard Idealists incap appears to have Faultless on it, though he's white... is that what his flipside looks like? See: http://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=File:Idealist_Void_Guard_Foil_Back.png

You know, I think you're on to something. Opposite color and no rage filled expression probably equates to his 'Order' form. Nice catch. Since Void Guard isn't out yet, or any of the OblivAeon heroes, I don't look at their cards alot(Foil hero collection), so details from that are easy for me to miss.

You may not think of Voss as conniving and duplicitous, but I encourage you to read his Bio again. The machinations of his plan to retake rule of his home planet were far from just simple brute force tactics. 

I have thought that Voss was a Scion of Oblivaeon before the expansion was confirmed, when we knew only whispers of what was to come, so I am onboard the Voss train.

Voss Train? Is that the offspring of Voss and Steven Graves?

Wouldn't that be a Gene Bound Train or Gene Bound Loco?

If Voss is going to Gene Bind his romantic partner then I don't think I like Voss very much.

Maybe the partner likes that sort of thing.

I don't think I like Voss very much anyway.

I notice that the purple glow around the mystery scion seems to be the same shade as one of Voss's two energy-shrouded arms. 

I do! Thanks to Christopher's Twitter feed!

https://twitter.com/GTGChristopher/status/877605666843643904

https://twitter.com/GTGChristopher/status/877605824977399808

That first picture is Flash Flood, from Tempest's deck. He also shows up on Coordinated Assault (in the Southwest Sentinels deck).

Sorry if this is already covered somewhere, but this was one of the first places a google search returned "Borr the Unstable."

Hey, cool! Thanks for posting those links!

You're welcome! Happy to help other lore-obsessed people like myself!

So, with the OblivAeon update for Oct. 3, we now know that the 10th scion falls between Progeny and Sanction in alphabetical order.  I am officially betting on Rainek Kel-Voss.

It is also, as was pointed out in the comments, the official place REDACTED would go.

I'm hoping it is actually REDACTED in the game and book now. His name with held despite the artwork showing clearly who it is.

Unless it isn't a recognizable character. Then I want a name.

I for one am looking forward to our SCP Foundation/Sentinels crossover.

Or maybe it's even someone without a fixed identity?  Pull a villain card, or even a hero card, out of the box, like Representative of Earth, and use that?  Or some sort of traitor mechanic?  (Or, more boringly, maybe it's just redacted/a mystery on the front and is obvious on the back.)

don't forget though, it would be the scion version name, which can be diffrent than what they once where called.

RANDOM


Oh buggerall, is Amber part of the Multiverse?

Oh, how awesome/confusing would that be?! 

I would definitely be interested in playing Sentinels of Amber.

Over on Reddit, the interesting suggestion of "Renegade" for the Scion's name was made.

Isn't that Chrono-Ranger from one of the future timelines? :O I forget which.

Yep from tactics