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An open Legacy plea to Christopher and Adam

33 posts · 1609 views · started 2016-02-10 19:12 UTC
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Maynes32
2016-02-10 19:12 UTC
#1

I know. I know this won't work. You don't have to tell me. But I'm going to beg anyway.

The world we live in is filled with people and actions that are, on their best day, morally ambiguous. And it's incredibly draining. Sometimes its hard to live in that world. For years now, I've loved the Sentinels universe because, at least the way I've read, watched, interpreted and loved the universe, it's not that way. The good guys are good, and the bad guys are bad. Except when the bad guys are REALLY bad, and then even the bad guys are good ;) Nobody has embodied this for me more than Legacy. Somehow the >G crew has managed to stuff all of the good-heartedness, earnestness, do-the-right thing-iness of Captain America and Superman into Legacy, with (at least for me), none of the campiness, cheesiness, or outright jingoism that either has, at times. Maybe it's the fact that Legacy is a Dad, and so that makes some of the earnestness, patience and desire to see the world as a good place a bit more understandable, I don't know. Seeing Legacy art just makes me think that the world could be a better place.

But, for me at least, no art that I've seen in Sentinels more embodies this than Legacy on "America's Cleverest Legacy". I can just see Legacy sitting down to do the crossword in the living room, still in his costume, but having put on a shirt and his glasses to minimize the "Legacy-ness" a bit. In walks a teenage Beacon, who earnestly (she is a Legacy, after all, even if she is a teenager) rolls her eyes. "Daddy! Can't you change out of your costume? I have FRIENDS coming over! It's EMBARASSING!" Legacy looks up, confused for a second as to how this could possibly be an issue, and then says "But, sweetheart, I'm SUPER at crosswords, I have to wear my costume!" All while smiling that America's Cleverest Legacy smile, with you left wondering if he is just taking the chance to good-heartedly needle his beloved daughter some, or if he could really, actually believe that.

Maybe it's just me - but I love seeing Legacy this way. That's why I'm asking, even though we've already been told "no", no, begging that you reconsider making America's Cleverest Legacy a real-life promo. Even if you have to change his (admittedly pretty over-the-top) power. I'd just love to see that part of Legacy, the part that I've always imagined, actually be a part of the in-game universe. Even if he just showed up with this art in some other card, not in a promo. Please, please use that art - for me it just sums up all of Legacy.

Thanks for listening,

BLM

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TheSoundOfTrees
2016-02-10 21:59 UTC
#2

I am sorry to intrude in your beautiful plea, but, if there is no promo card, I'd like to suggest a Cleverest Legacy t-shirt.

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Silverleaf
2016-02-10 23:16 UTC
#3

They've said several times it's not happening, it was just a little Easter egg reward for the ARG. Sorry, but I'll be extremely surprised if they go back on that.

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dpt
2016-02-10 23:22 UTC
#4

I love this letter and the forlorn quest that it represents.

 

EDIT: I especially love the explicit acknowledgement that the quest is hopeless.

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Spiff
2016-02-10 23:39 UTC
#5

Why is it hopeless?  We're already getting a bajillion hero alts, why not throw Cleverest Legacy into the mix and print it?  The incremental cost can't be high.

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Estelindis
2016-02-11 00:02 UTC
#6

I respect Christopher's story-vision for Legacy (all promos being different Parsons), and I wouldn't want him to change anything story-related that he has such a firm view on, but I have to agree that the art on the Cleverest Legacy card is amazing and exemplifies all the delightful things mentioned by Maynes32.

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Alex
2016-02-11 00:23 UTC
#7

Has anyone tried his base power out? I'm really curious what it's like and I foolishly decided not to bring my cards to college.

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Yak_Guardian
2016-02-11 01:41 UTC
#8

Remember BLM, a lost cause may be the only one worth fighting for.

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armadagon
2016-02-11 02:38 UTC
#9

It breaks Dawn, Omnitron, and Voss, since you can insta-gib them with a lucky reveal.  Also can insta-flip Skinwalker Gloomweaver.  Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.  He can seriously cripple Kismet, Angry Paul, and any other Villain that heavily relies on a single card type or has multiple common keywords among their ongoings/devices/etc.

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Rabit
2016-02-11 03:23 UTC
#10

That's why he's been errata'd.

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MCPooge
2016-02-11 05:07 UTC
#11

Maybe it will be the $1 million stretch goal. I mean, if we give them a million bucks, how could they say no?

 

:D

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Ronway
2016-02-11 05:12 UTC
#12

By giving us something superior at one million dollars. After all, 750k and the 1 million are 250k more than the previous stretch goal, so they have to be something super awesome!

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TeslaRoyale
2016-02-11 05:28 UTC
#13

Maybe it will be the $1,500,000 stretch.  Come on guys we can do it!

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Kingofsouls
2016-02-11 05:30 UTC
#14

I honestly thing that a second comic book (probably Cosmic Constest) is at 750 or 1 mil. But yea I would love to see Cleverest. The way I see it, Cleverest doesn't break the 'every Legacy is a different Parsons' rule because Cleverest is from a different timeline and thus is not the same Parsons as Finest Legacy.

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jffdougan
2016-02-11 14:02 UTC
#15

My current guesses are that $750k is another comic and $1M is the story bible.

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Reverend_Pete
2016-02-11 14:33 UTC
#16

 

I would pledge again to make this true.

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Powerhound_2000
2016-02-11 14:38 UTC
#17

I would love to see the promo be an official one too.   Though I also fully expected in the KS that we would be getting a lot of promo hero cards and not quite so many full hero decks.  

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Maynes32
2016-02-11 14:39 UTC
#18

I would be surprised if we get both of these. I would hope that either $750K or $1M would be another comic or the bible, but I think we're unlikely to get two. Didn't they say somewhere that one funding level would be improvements to the box? Or am I making that up?

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Ronway
2016-02-11 14:50 UTC
#19

The 70k stretch goal added foam blocks to the collector box. 150k added a promo and tokens to the box. That's two boc improvements thus far.

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skoticus
2016-02-11 15:08 UTC
#20

I, too, want to second that they really should do a Cleverest Legacy card. It fits the deck so well, it fits the personality so well, and it IS a different person, so it isn't breaking that rule. 

Even if they just fixed the errata'd bit and then drew/posted a back, I'd be happy to print it myself. It's just so delightful. And with all the money people are putting there way right now, surely there is a demand for ALL THE THINGS!

 

We just  love it all, is what we're saying. Stop teasing us!

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TheSoundOfTrees
2016-02-11 16:56 UTC
#21

Or the 1 million strech goal will be a new promo : Ultimate Legacy, the last Legacy from the far future. Power : another hero takes a full turn now. :innocent:

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Maynes32
2016-02-11 17:17 UTC
#22

Feels a little underpowered for Legacy, doesn't it?  :stuck_out_tongue:

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phantaskippy
2016-02-11 17:25 UTC
#23

Ultimate Legacy

Final Destiny

Power:  Merge with the Void.  Game over.

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Pydro
2016-02-11 17:32 UTC
#24

Power: Force Christopher to create and publish another hero to help with the fight or another villain to fight or an environment to fight in.

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Greywind
2016-02-11 17:34 UTC
#25

Just because OblivAeon is slated to be the final box expansion, there is always the possibility of later single decks being added it Christopher gets the itch to do so.

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Foote
2016-02-11 17:34 UTC
#26

Promo Variant

Power: Force Christopher to give straight answers to my damn questions about his story that I need to know.

Incap Power - Bribe Adam for answers instead

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dshields
2016-02-11 17:38 UTC
#27

LOL Love it, Adam Likes expensive toys though

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Maynes32
2016-02-11 17:45 UTC
#28

Believe me, this is saying something for Legacy, but I think that you may have gone too far in the other direction, Foote. :wink: I think that power is one step away from "Power: Alter the whole known universe to be in the image target player desires."

Much though I would also love that power.

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ketigid
2016-03-08 04:11 UTC
#29

I don't want to start a new thread, so I'll post here instead.

I recalled the reason for officially printing Cleverest Legacy was given something along the line of "Every Legacy promo is a different person".

However, with the latest 1million Freedom Five stretch goal on Kickstarter, this is no longer true. The "current Legacy" is represented twice.

So, I guess it's alright to print Cleverst Legacy as an official promo now, right, right?

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Arcanist_Lupus
2016-03-08 06:04 UTC
#30

Not quite.  The official reason for not printing Cleverest Legacy as far as I know was more or less "He was only intended to be part of the ARG."  While it's true that they said that they liked having every Legacy be different, I don't recall that ever being listed as the primary reason that he wasn't being printed.

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ChronoRanger_101
2016-03-08 09:30 UTC
#31

couldnt it be an alternate universe legacy? Or a great grandson?  I understand it wouldn't push the story forward any but does Completionist guise? Guise might be an exception though…lol 

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pwatson1974
2016-03-08 09:37 UTC
#32

Guise is always an exception.

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MrFettuccine
2016-03-08 14:53 UTC
#33

If you really want one, someone is arranging a group buy on boardgamegeek. I think the deadline is March 10th.

US & Canada - https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1537404/usca-americas-cleverest-legacy-group-buy

UK & EU - https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1537418/uk-eu-americas-cleverest-legacy-group-buy