OblivAeon Kickstarter

The beginning of the end is here!

Funded!

I pledged before I even read or watched anything! This is going to be awesome!

And funded!

8 minutes, who had that in betting pool?

Where is the first stretch goal information for funding?

Ugh. I want all the things, time to stop eating for a while.

Almost have another stretch goal!

WOW! 8 Minutes!

Boo! We are losing Sleulth!

Pledged!

The question here is not 'IF' the stretch goals will be met, but 'WHEN'. :P

I'm calling it now: the 100K stretch goal will be met TODAY.

Pledged toward ALL the promos/foil promos + the big box!

Wonder how fast to 100k, 45min??

Nearly at 70K within the first 15 minutes.   Can GtG pump out new stretch goals within the first day?

Well that escalated quickly, over 75K as it currently stands

I LOVE that new Young Legacy art! Can't wait to see more. 

Leaping huge stretch goals in a single bound!

Yeah I like the Canvis but I couldn;t talk myself to pay for it so got the $139 option

What else would they introduce, I wonder?

Sentinels day? Playmats? Clippings of Christopher's beard?

So. Fast. 100k in no more than 10 minutes I say.

40k is Omnitron-U

50K is parse

70K is SkyScraper

90 is Blade... and is that The Dreamer/The Visionary?

I've already seen a comment asking if GtG really wanted to end SotM

This is so exciting! I cannot wait to see what all the stretch goals are!

I hope they are ready to post the next set of stretch goals soon. $100,000 in 30 minutes!

I was thinking Luminary (Blade) and Visionary, yes.

another 7000 can they do it in 6 minutes 100k in 30 minutes ???

So will they give each stretch goal its own update or will it be just one long update?

Words cannot describe how hard I laughed as I watched this kickstarter launch...like I legit am dying over how fast this funding went and how quickly the strech goals were being met XD

Now less than $4,000! It's really exciting to see how many other people love this game!

Now less than $1,000 to go!

Ok, done. No more stretch goals. 31 days to go...!

:)

GtG : the quickest kickstarter on earth !

And DONE! $10,000 in 28 minutes!

yeah 100k 28 minutes

...done. 100K. In 28 minutes.

Ball's in your court, GTG :)

I WANT IT ALL! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFDcoX7s6rE

They've probably been trying to type an update this entire time and keep having to change it because we keep hitting stretch goals. :)

question, what is that ultimate collector box made of that it costs roughly 60 dollars by itself???

Well now they can just make one big upodate, with who knows 500k or a million mabie

Holy Ra-Beards folks!

1) I want a pledge level for the Collector Case + Foil box. I don't need the non-foil alts if I have foil ones right?

2) I WANT STRETCH GOALS PLX!

3) WOOOOOOOOOT

We're about to hit 110k, is that another stretch goal?

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

Based on the number of cards we will have (over 2,500) and the price point for that collectors case... I imagine it's made of wood, right?

So, think they have more stretch goals planned already? Or do you think we surprised them and they are scrambling to find new things to offer? "How many potted plants do we have in the office? Not enough!!"

by the way this isnt me complaining because I just saw US backers get free shipping so I am assuming this is part of the reason that the promos and the ultimate collector box costs a little more but still would like to know what it is made out of

They said they have more, but we shall see if they have enough. I am guessing they will wait until an hour has passed before any official update comes out. But there is always twitter...

We didn't surprise them. im 100% certain they had a fairly good idea how well this would do.

In case you didn't read the fine print, Art Prints aren't included unless you add $1 to the pledge.

What do you guys think? One million by tomorrow? :)

I'm 100% certain they didn't know how fast it would bust through the stretch goals, though. We're putting Tachyon to shame!

prints. not promos. just to clarify

Thanks, I will edit my post so nobody is confused (even for a moment).

KS has applied the "Projects we love" stamp on it now

eyes up the ficus on Christopher's desk

…Nah.

I hope they don't go crazy with the stretch goals and we end up with subpar quality stuff... or a huge delay in getting stuff to the backers. It would be a sad way to end this story. 

I'm just thrilled about free shipping. The USD and CAD are kind of bonkers now, so. it's going to pretty scary.

If there is a little delay on some of the stuff, I could live with that. Mostly I just want ALL THE THINGS! They've already promised that the foil promos will be shipped out in July, which is amazing!

kinda hoping for a few standalone villian miniexpansions still as stretch goals. maybe a villian who is crazy and wants the cosmic entity to win

They added 50 more slots to the top tier.

I'm fairly certain the stretch goals are all stuff they planned for ahead of time. Promos and box upgrades, for example are discussed in the KS overview.

source? and did they include the regular promos in this?

Source? Read the page?

We got told with the Oversized Villains cards sold in the last preorder that it would contain every villain that doesn't come with an Oversized Villain card.   So if a new mini expansion standalone villain came out it would have to include an Oversized Villain Card with it which I'm not sure I see happening.

Who is the split 90K streach goal?

I see Omnitron U, Harpy, Skyscrapper, then....what is that? That bald head looks like Vanessa but who is the man?

Quick question about kickstarter: when I pledge money, does it get taken out of my bank account then and there, or at the end of the pledge-allowal time?

Want to know if I should pledge now or after payday...

Just a bit of levity, and a little stretch to get to my potted plant joke. I've always found I make bad jokes when really excited. On a related note: I just had a terrible thought, what if it doesn't get funded? 

You know, the highest grossing kickstarter for SotM thus far has been Shattered Timelines, making $185,200 (over 900% the 20k goal). Think we can beat that by the end of today? 

At the end of the campaign.

Also. I think we're going to need a bigger boat.

true. one can still hope

Luminary! I mean, new hero, needs a promo. 

Money isn't collected until a campaign is over.  

For those wondering, I got an answer to my question about whether the box will accommodate for sleeved decks: "Yes!" That was my biggest concern. Woohoo!

It is on the main Kickstarter page, the paragraph just above the ULTIMATE COLLECTOR'S CASE banner.

So after the 31 day mark? Sweet…

just told wife I spent 109 on Sentinels. Yup I am sleeping on the couch tonight. So worth it :)

Yes, I'm just concerned about what happens after we blow past all the planned stretch goals and the crowd is still demanding more. 

It's really exciting to see how well the Kickstarter's done already.  :)

And the lady does look a lot like Visionary. Perhaps Twilight Visionary - Vanessa gone Dark and then back again, with the strengths of both and none of the weaknesses?

Totally!

More stretch goals coming this afternoon, according to Twitter!

Christopher is pretty surprised on Twitter. He says he is going to post a big update this afternoon. I think he is waiting for pledging  to slow down from light speed. 

that wont happen for a while. It will probably jump again after everyone gets off work.

Yup. I'm pledging as soon as I get home. Bye bye $140!

can they hit 200k in 2 hours??? only 7000 to go in 14 minutes

And are they going to expand again the signed, only 1 left of 100

Bragging time: I got the first $139 tier reward!

I was 15, I read slow LOL, but that was literly 1 minute

$200,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like they just did! 

Now we see if they get over 1.5k backers by then! 

I believe Christopher said no.  Not that there mightn't be more demand, but more than that would be too much signing.

My wife is gonna kill me… 300 dollars . Course she bought and Xbox one so…

Wait. How do you pledge the extra dollar to get the art prints?

Click manage pledge and change the amount without changing the pledge level.

Also, check the pledge level. $249 and above comes with art prints already.

EDIT: $249 level not the $139 level.

How far do people think this is gonna go by the end of the day? I'm predicting 2k backers for $250k!

EDIT: Actually, $275k. I was thinking that with the $300 tier full, it would be slower, but it won't have as much impact as I thought :P

200k in 2 hours

Ha. The signature level is sold out... I guess I'll have to take my $250 pledge and follow them around all the conventions until I get signatures on everything...

Well this looks promising.

Now I am wondering if the box will be available after the kickstarter, or if it's a kickstarter-only thing. I wonder this because I am torn between the promos + box at $109 or getting promos + foil promos at $84.

I love how funding increased by ~$10,000 in the time it took me to read and post to this thread.

So some Quick Math Orders are Avg. $135 per Person. So to beat Tactics

They need to hit: 2426 People For $327,510

Big thanks to GtG for letting anyone get the foil promos.  I was worried they would be a limited pledge level, and with My son's soccer and Library program I might miss it.

Figured I was screwed when I got home and saw $200k, but was delighted to see the only thing I was closed out of was the signatures.  (Which I can live without)

I can't wait to see how they deal with the updates for stretch goals, esp. any that were planned for 100-200k.

This is awesome.

Citizen Dare : - I dare you to add a "Sentinel Comics : an illustrated history of the Multiverse" book as the stretch goal for 1 million !

will second this question

Sentinels = license to print money. This is the end of this comics story line, but they need to do more with this format in another part of the multiverse. 

EDIT: This is the end of the Multiverse, but just the beginning of the Sentinel Comics line. 

A revamped Tac tics and the RPG come to mind. Plus, I'm sure those guys have somthing else up their sleeves for the brand. 

250k Hour 3???

almost 247K hour 3

I am impatient for the stretch goals.

To be fair, today has definitely delivered.

They should have had the first update ready to post the moment the KS went live. They knew we'd knock it out of the park! We're impatient! We want to see Omnitron U!

I hope they have the teasers and goal marks for the next set, considering we've cleared everything they've posted.

Can't wait to hear more!

So any guesses on the next hour, slowing down now, but when the first Update comes out, might start another wave. Plus you still have the "After Work" Wave, So I wouldn't be suprised if we beat Tactics in one day, and who knows, 500k I think is possible, 750k would be great, 1 million, I agree that should be a comic.

Starting to slow down. Only ~$50K in hour 3. We will probably see another wave from the after work crowd. Hopefully they won't set the stretch goals too far ahead with this much money already in. I would say the majority of the base has already pledged. 

I also hope that when they are out of planned goals they don't keep adding more. I have watched a couple of companies end up really under delivering because they got carried away with stretch goals. Robotech comes to mind. As long as we get a good product we will all be happy. 

This! Please!

I think $1million is a pretty good bet, given this start. My guess is $2 million.

Now that the $299 level is locked Dropping down pledge levels $132 Per person, So If they continue to drop I would estimate:

2519 People At $130 for $327,470 To beat Tactics.

279K Hour 4

there is a lot of stuff they could easily do with stretch goals though. The biggest worry I would say right now is doing so much stuff on stretch goals it delays the game. Personally I wouldnt mind seeing a stretch goal be something that helps out handelablra to get to a point they can release OblivAeon the same day as the paper copy or just to make sure everyone has their copy first, maybe a month delay. Whatever helps them finish SoTM the video game and gets them on sentinel tactics.

I wonder if they will break a million with this one. I hope they do.

I'd guess north of 500K but Kickstarters that have this kind of crazy start with a pre-existing fanbase tend to tailor off in the daily rates pretty fast.  The amount that has already been pledged is staggering and unprecedented for not on GtG, but potentially for any non-mini based boardgame expansion on Kickstarter.  For reference Tuscany funded at 450K and at the time was the highest non mini boardgame on KS.   Suffice to say, this is an amazing start

Just give us a new deck for each 50k or whatever it would cost to produce, please :D

Yeah, folks will have to keep in mind that after today and tomorrow, the pledge ticker will be REALLY slow until the last 24 hours where it will always pick up again. I've seen so many ppl get discouraged during KS projects that the ticker isn't moving with like 10 days left and get antsy.

If people wanna see more detailed info on how the kickstarter is going, or any kickstarter for that matter, check out kicktraq.com!

SotM is at #2 on the hotlist (of all kickstarter projects that are ongoing today): https://www.kicktraq.com/hotlist/

As the campaign goes on, the data collected will become more accurate.  Right now the "trending" numbers for OblivAeon is a bit rediculous... We're trending towards $9million...  once things are well underway, kicktraq will give a projection (as opposed to a "trend"), and it's actually somewhat accurate.

https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-oblivaeon/

Backers: 2130
Average Daily Pledges: $279,827
Average Pledge Per Backer: $131

We're at 700% funding!

ugh come on Christopher I want to see the update and stretch goals before my meeting. My boss gives me more work when I look happy during a meeting.

$300K in 5 hours!

301k hour 5 

23k to become thier highest grossing Kickstarter

Now it is #1

Accoridng to https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-oblivaeon/ It's trending to ~ $10,000,000

This is quite unlikely, but imagine that... I can hear their gears turning. SHould they buy a yacht, or 10 yachts?

322K hour 6

Updates? I am guessing that they are trying to reformulate a new plan now that there expected funding timeline has been shattered. In fact it has been blown to Oblivaeon!

I heard that this afternoon/evening we should get a message from the GtG gang

$150,000              Hour 1   $150,000

 $200,000             Hour 2   $50,000

 $247,000             Hour 3   $47,000

 $279,000             Hour 4   $32,000

 $301,000             Hour 5   $21,000

 $322,000             Hour 6   $21,000

Slowing down a bit Hopefully update soon

They could literally stop the KS today and this has been a massive success.  I wonder if they had any stretch goals part 300K....

OblivAeon Is now GTG’s Highest Grossing Kickstarter!!!!! Way to go GTG

Sentinal Tactics 2175 People Spent Avg. of $151 For a total of $327,403

OblivAeon is at 2514 People Spent Avg. of $131 For a total of $328,272 And Still going!!!!

The publicity that this Kickstarter should generate is pretty amazing. It should widen the audience for SotM. They should see an up tick of sales for all SotM products. Hopefully they are ready for catastrophic success. 

They could but then my pledge wouldn't go through and I wouldn't get the foil cards.

So let's not do that.

Ha, I wasnt suggestion they would, just as a reminder that as the funding inevitably slows down how amazing this has already been

Update posted.

STOP BUYING IN TO THE KICKSTARTER!!

hear me out....

we as a fan base have blown out buying power when it comes to stretch goals.   We could of kept teasing a bit more at a time.   Look at the spacing on the first ones .   Every 10k.   Now they will get caught up and you can bet your boots it will be every 50k or more on the next ones.   There's no bonus into buying In early.   Wait until the goals are all posted and let us all start to reach for them.   

We could of hit ten more or so if we hit this dollar amount over a few weeks.  Instead they don't need to be as generous.  They got our pledges. 

@bshugg Too late man. 

calm down and ley them enjoy themselves

No offense, but you're preaching to the wrong choir posting that on this board

AWSOME!

Akash as a box hero! Only 2 more hero in box to go! WHO COULD THEY BE?!

Benchmark? Revocorp?! Really cool. The alt universe variant seems really interesting. Angel-Investor backed Revocorp?!?!?! THE HOST?!?!?!

Ambuscade mini-expansion hero as Stuntman? YES! Awesome variant!

Akash variant and the Nexus Island seem to be directly connected to Scholar and the Infinite Void! I NEED MOAR HERE!

Ft Adamant and oblivion shards? yes please!

CAP COSMIC VARIANT OMG SO GOOOOD!

COMIC BOOK!!!!!!! COMIC BOOK!!!!!

My only complaint is that the ONLY....ONLY Canadian character is Citizen Dawn. WE NEED A CANADIAN HERO!

LMAO, Someone give foote a cookie

I can't even imagine what would make me happiest for the last two box heroes. I don't even know. I'm overwhelmed with excitement.

I'd wager that they already had the stretch goal milestones in mind before the kickstarter launched. And anyway, the sooner GtG knows that a stretch goal is locked down, then the sooner they can start working on said goal.

Must. Have. DAWN!!

I can't imagine they would leave Dawn out of this... but I fear that with her cosmic power she might be a... a... SCION?...

Gloomweaver! If he/it can't bring unspeakable horror to Earth, then no one can!

Expatriette is Canadian.

You're welcome!

I'll share. Cosmic Cookie-Bot has all the cookies.

COMIC BOOK COMIC BOOK COMIC BOOK

The last unlock character looks like Deadline.

Boy, I'd really like to have the whole story without having to dip into the RPG, but I'm not sure this is going to get near $1 million.

342k hour 7

Head is spinning.

The million seems difficult to reach. But who knows.

I think we'll clear $700K for sure... whether or not we hit $1million we will have to see...

So the gun-toting, daughter of an evil ruler in a volcanic island paradise who rules with an iron fist is a Canadian. 

1. I'm glad that they didn't do anything sterotypical

2. I completely forgot about by birth. Sorry

Also, if everyone pledged 5 more $ we'd get >$12,500

Benchmark is clearly Revanent. That is super exciting.

Will we pass 400k? I hope so

Mind. Blown. You're right! I think you are… maybe Revanent was a proto type?

I called Akash!!  Whew!

Finally got something right.

Also:

COMIC BOOK PEOPLE!!!

There's 350K.  Update?  Please?

?

This game has always been about comic book people. 

next goal is unlocked :)

Yep… and she's an expatriate to boot

A Canadian saying "boot" never gets old to my good ol' American ears

wonder if 350K unlock is Aminia Twain?

Anyone else think that at least one more of these stretch goals is another comic book?

No.

Clearly Revenant was the result of a corrupt and greedy corporation which sought to exploit people for wealth and power.

Benchmark is a living example of the development of advanced technology for the greater good. He is progress personified… and he will save the world from OblivAeon. 

They are completely separate and independent products.

Please dont forget to stop by the RevoCorp gift shop and pick up some Benchmark action figures for the little ones. Complimentary, of course. 

A suggestion - there SHOULD be someday, a video documentary about the Sentinels of The Multiverse experience. How the story was created, the game made and published, and so on. With details on how the story (and the way it is implemented in the game) evolved through the years, how GtG coped with success and obstacles, etc. It would be fascinating , for gamers, creators and publishers alike. So many questions to ask...

I want to know more about the box

That will happen tomorrow, according to what I've read.

Remind me what Revanent is from please

Do you have Vengance? Go check out some of the decks and look for a Setback nemesis! Or you could look at Setbacks deck! He can also be found in Parse's deck I believe!

Here's Revenant on the Wiki: http://sotm.wikidot.com/villain:revenant

Revenant.

I hope that the million stretch goal is a full length Sentinels of the Multiverse feature film.  Which that can then lead into a full movie universe with shared continuity, and knock Marvel and DC down to the second and third tier slots of the superhero movie genre franchise under Sentinels where they belong.

And the part of Stuntman can be played by a stuntman!

I hope they add a $200 million stretch goal with that!

363K hour 8

Still staying at 20K an Hour:

$150,000              Hour 1 --11:00am             $150,000

 $200,000             Hour 2 -- 12:00pm            $50,000

 $247,000             Hour 3 -- 1:00pm              $47,000

 $279,000             Hour 4 -- 2:00pm              $32,000

 $301,000             Hour 5 -- 3:00pm              $21,000

 $322,000             Hour 6 -- 4:00pm              $21,000

 $342,000             Hour 7 -- 5:00pm              $20,000

 $363,000             Hour 8 -- 6:00pm              $21,000

I would just like to say how satisfying that update was.  I expected GtG to dribble out updates on the rewards that had been unlocked because, why woudln't they?  They've got a month to fill for that Kickstarter.  Instead, they just vomitted out a TON of fantastic art and information all in one go on the very first day of the KS.  The more I scrolled down that page, the better it got.

I have to admit, I'm pretty replete right now, not overly hungry for those mystery $450k+ levels.  If it all ended after the La Capitan and Deadline reveals (because that's totally what those are), I'll be good.  That was quite a banquet and I'm happily stuffed right now.

It seems pretty inevitable that it will eclipse 400K by the end of the day....that is frankly just amazing

The only thing in that update that seems off was the Harpy promo wasn't discussed.

we have the Harpy and Akash added to the Main page. Harpy's promo is Darkwatch Harpy. Or are you refering to something else?

Edit: +1 to Spiff happy they threw it all at once. I think they are wise to ride the hype train they are on right now: VotM shipping + ARG + End of Multiverse + 1st Day of KS.

It was added in afterwards. Dark Watch Harpy

Matriarch's transformation into Harpy got a pretty thorough detailing in the link they provided as part of the recent ARG.

I'm most curious about that black Christmas tree which seems to be following the Harpy alt around.  A new villain perhaps…?

On a side note, they've added Harpy and the new hero Akash to the KS's home page under Luminary Blade.

The original post was missing a description of the Harpy promo, but that was later fixed.

There was no text about Dark Watch Harpy! That's all I'm saying.

My french friends really like that.

There's not much, but there is some:

908% of goal Can we reach 1000% ????

Ah, cool. I missed that the last time I looked.

So wait a second...

If I get the "Complete Hero Variant Collection" which includes "EVERY hero variant card [they've] ever made, as well as the new ones released as part of this campaign." does that include Completionist Guise? If the Completionist Guise variant is only included in the Ultimate Collector Case, then that doesn't really fit within the claim that the Complete Hero Variant Collection includes EVERY hero variant card, including the ones released as part of the kickstarter campaign...

I'm hoping it's included in the Complete Hero Variant Collection because I already have a good storage solution for my copy of SotM, so I won't be getting the Collector's Case.  And I'm not adding an extra $50 to my pledge just for another Guise promo. 

Why wouldn't the complete hero variant collection include Completionist Guise?  He's just a hero variant like everyone else, right?

EDIT: maybe it's this text that's confusing?

At $150k, we add some awesome tokens and a more complete complexity/difficulty chart to the Ultimate Collector Case, and also add in a very special hero variant for Guise: 

The "and also" tells me the two are not tied.  They added tokens to the Box and separately, made an alt of Guise.

That could just as easily be read as…

They added tokens to the box and also Completionist Guise to the box as well.

I think it's the inclusion of the word "in"…   Completionist Guise was added "in" to what?  The box is what they were just talking about, so presumably that's what it was added "in" to.

Edit: In any case, I always like to make sure of the little things like this while the kickstarter is still going on.  I've been burned before by vague wordings and things left unsaid when it comes to kickstarters.  It really sucks to back something, then suddenly when it shows up at your door and you open it, you are missing something that you fully expected to receive. 

Geez, that update is a sensory overload of excitement. Really glad they gave us everything at once. Really felt like a good accomplishment. Looking forward to more updates and more goodness.

That's totally Deadline's silhouette. You think he'd miss this party? A chance to kill the being that killed his people? Of course he's back to take down OblivAeon.

378K hour 9

Hey! Good news! If everyone who has already contributed ups their commitment to $399, we will hit the $1million mark with extra to spare!

I'm sure you can make some of the money back by reselling the sets you already own on the secondary market. I could also give you some pointers on surviving on dust and rainwater if that amount is too harsh on the bank.

Who needs significant others or homes when we could have all the stretch goals unlocked?

looking at the email, I think a couple of those are comic books but the million dollar mark is the story bible.

no update till morning

My reading of the campaign is that all of the promos revealed as stretch goals (Completionist Guise, etc) will be given as rewards to all Kickstarter backers. IN ADDITION, if you back a level with the promo card set, then you will get ANOTHER version of each of the stretch goal promos, with different art.

Christopher in the kickstarter comments:

> I see that some of you are hoping for an update tonight. Just wasted to let you know, that's not going to happen.

Drinking heavily already, I see.

So

AeonMen - as pointed out to me, those are the guys in the orange armor on several cards already. And as Aeon and OblivAeon - cool cool cool!
 

Benchmark - so he has red power around his hands. That is benchmark then on the back of DW Expat?

What are we going to call Ivana Luminary, Stuntaman promo,  and the new Captain Cosmic promo?

I mean the rest are obvious, right now on the wiki I have Captain Cosmic: Fused but ... eh. that could be better. Ivana Luminary, and Stuntman: Action Hero - ( i kinda like that last one!)

any suggestions or chimeins from GtG Staff?

Or just not finished crafting the words

https://twitter.com/evildicemonkey/status/697219185101901824

I just wanted to be the first to call the promo Stuntman: “Ramboscade.”

You’re welcome.

Young Luminary seems pretty obvious to me, given the parallels to Young Legacy

I'm guessing we'll get more taglines for some of these once we get the actual cards. I was going with "Rambo Stuntman" in my head, but that obviously won't be official. I do like Stuntman: Action Hero.

Not sure about Luminary. I don't think it would incorporate Ivana. What's the parallel to Legacy of Destruction?

And speaking of that Luminary, her gauntlet is on the other hand, and she still has the scar. And does she make bots like Unity?

Mode "not serious" on :

Captwin Cosmic ? Cosmic Remix ? Captainfinitor ? Double Captain ?

Lady Luminary ? Lumilady ?

+1 for Ramboscade. Or Heroscade.

Except that she's not related to Ivan Ramonat. We also don't know her age: she looks young, but so does the non-promo Luminary.

I'd really like to see her get her own name, not a derivative. In her own world, she is the only Luminary, after all.

The,n let's call Blade Luminary  "the Bearded Luminary", and let her have the name.

Ivana: Candelivana?

and I have to admit I see the Governator more than Rambo, but Ramboscade flows pretty nicely.

Okay, so it's been about eight hours, and we've already funded OblivAeon ten times over.

God I love this fandom. Expect some contributions from me when payday happens!

393k Hour 10

Need another $4500 So We Fund 1000% on First Day!!!!

Raised So Far     Hour --  Central Time      Raised Per Hour

 $150,000             Hour 1 --11:00am             $150,000

 $200,000             Hour 2 -- 12:00pm            $50,000

 $247,000             Hour 3 -- 1:00pm              $47,000

 $279,000             Hour 4 -- 2:00pm              $32,000

 $301,000             Hour 5 -- 3:00pm              $21,000

 $322,000             Hour 6 -- 4:00pm              $21,000

 $342,000             Hour 7 -- 5:00pm              $20,000

 $363,000             Hour 8 -- 6:00pm              $21,000

 $378,000             Hour 9 -- 7:00pm              $15,000

 $393,000             Hour 10 -- 8:00pm            $15,000

Or "Hunky Luminary"

(Is it just me, or for once is the male version more sexualized than the female version?)

I have a question: Which pledge level gets me the new mini-expansion stuff? Becuase I really want Stuntman and Benchmark.

400k has been hit

400K at 10 Hours 32 minutes

think we can hit 500k by tomorrow?

All of them, from the $39 level up. They all include "PLUS all stretch goals!" in the description.

So anyone think we can do 50 or 100k Overnight???

Every pledge level from $39 and up includes stretch goals.

Agree, I think we will get in the 700-750k range in 30 days, Depending on the updates, but I am hopeing for the million.

To hit 1 million we need 7634 People Avg. of $131 

only 4612 to go!!!!! LOL

I say we call the lady Brightest Luminary cause that would piss Blade off he'd take it as a point against his intelligence while we were actually talking about the fact she's more radiant...

406K hour 11

Just because he looks “hunky” doesn’t mean he’s sexualised, he’s not at all. It takes more than that to create sexualisation. Also due to how society treats the views of bodies, it’s harder to create a sexualised male image than it is a female. For example, just being topless doesn’t make a man sexualised in and of itself, almost all of the time for a woman it does.
I do love the design of Ivana though, she looks awesome.

Wow, the Guise promo is making fun of all of us for…exactly what we are doing right now! Love the meta-poke.

Hey, is this finally the dude on Quick Draw??!

HELL YES! ALL OF MY MONEY THEY MAY HAVE!

Whatever it is, he's going to be the anti-Santa-Guise.

"Add one card from another player's trash into your hand. If it it sleeved, you may play it now. Otherwise, spend 5 minutes explaining to that player how important it is to keep their cards in mint condition and sleeve it."

I don't think so, but it could be.

I wonder what the tokens are that got unlocked with guise?

I'm trying to imagine a game with all three Guises.

Now I'm trying to recover from that insane nightmare world. Don't go there.

Be careful, that killed Cthulhu.

Hopefully tokens to keep track of things that other tokens can't, i.e., the Naturalist's forms, Setback's unlucky pool, promo Writhe and Mainstay's base powers, etc. 

Well played, sir. 

418k hour 12

12 Hours of Kickstarter:

Raised So Far     Hour --  Central Time      Raised Per Hour

$150,000              Hour 1 --11:00am             $150,000

$200,000              Hour 2 -- 12:00pm            $50,000

$247,000              Hour 3 -- 1:00pm              $47,000

$279,000              Hour 4 -- 2:00pm              $32,000

$301,000              Hour 5 -- 3:00pm              $21,000

$322,000              Hour 6 -- 4:00pm              $21,000

$342,000              Hour 7 -- 5:00pm              $20,000

$363,000              Hour 8 -- 6:00pm              $21,000

$378,000              Hour 9 -- 7:00pm              $15,000

$393,000              Hour 10 -- 8:00pm            $15,000

$406,000              Hour 11 -- 9:00pm            $13,000

$418,000              Hour 12 -- 10:00pm          $12,000

I am Done but What a Day!!!! Great Job GTG!!!!!!

I think this calls for a celebration my friends.

Congrats to everyone!

Will the 4 promos that were up during teh christmas sale be included in the big pack of them?  I did not know about those till just now and want to make sure I will hae them including the christmas guise once this all comes around.

The variant promo pack will contain every offical promo with new art. So yes you will get Santa Guise and the Termi-nation Trio. Sadly, America's Cleverest Legacy is not offical so that's a no on him.

How about Luminary of Hope?

Looks more like La Capitan variant to me Complete with energy rifle? La Space Admirale.

I'll be honest, I've cautiously assumed those stretch goals were just so those expansions would be made (pending an official statement in an update) rather than actually given to backers (unlike the ones that say they're "in the box/in Oblivaeon"). I hope you're right though, that'd be an awesome bonus!

From past kickstarters, mini expansions are part of the package. I'd be surprised if they depart from that now.

The ones "in the box" are the ones that you will get if you later buy Oblivaeon as a separate product.

So even today's worth of pledges, based on what Kicktraq shows, was enough raised to meet the base funding goal plus get to the Stuntman stretch goal.   Not as crazy as yesterday but still a significant amount.  

OK, before full reveals happen:

I'm going on record as saying the base power for Visionary Unleashed will be damage dealing of some kind, rather than deck manipulation.

Day 2, and we just broke half a million.

It's happening.

And 500k. Congratulations !

I think you can update, now, Christopher

Ivana = The Baroness

Stuntman promo = Montage 

Captain Cosmic = Family Reuinion

Yes it will probably be tomorrow when we hit 1 mil

The GTG warehouse is going to be so very full...

And of course as soon as I put in my order for the game and the expansions that are available, they put a tier for every Multiverse expansion. >_>

Oh well, at least I get the case and variants, which were what I was going for in the first place

It isn't hard to cancel orders.

You can modify/cancel your pledge any time you like until the Kickstarter ends :).

Edit - Also, WOW, nice work chaps :D. Kickstarted goal smaaaaaaassshhed! :D

This is my first GTG kickstarter, that's great to hear!

Fun Math:

At 12:19pm 2/10/16

GTG has 3927 Backers For a Total of $528,304 That is an Average of $134.5

That Breaks down to:

                                                                        Pledge Level          Backers                       Total

$1.00                 101                         $101.00

$39.00                  71                          $2,769.00

$54.00                   396                         $21,384.00

$69.00                   92                          $6,348.00

$84.00                  86                          $7,224.00

$99.00                   56                          $5,544.00

$109.00                 770                        $83,930.00

$139.00                 2022                      $281,058.00

$249.00                 142                        $35,358.00

$299.00                 100                        $29,900.00

$399.00                 87                          $34,713.00

TOTAL                   $508,329.00

                                                                                                             $528,304

Minus    $508329

                                                              Art Prints, Shipping and Extra :     $19,975

NEW UPDATE NEW UPDATE!

Update: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-oblivaeon/posts/1488366

Wait, wait, wait!!

Void Guard is a box set of FOUR heroes???? Entirely new DECKS of the Sentinels?!

(also, rolling my eyes at Deadline's hero name being Lifeline...shoulda known haha)

Oh my! The Sentinels will have their own hero decks! Awesome! And X-Treme Prime Wardens!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!1ONE!

Wow.  I didn't expect each Sentinels member to get their own deck.   I completely missed that.

Quick question, what is a void guard? It's really 4 new hero decks with each of the sentinels? X_x And as a backer we will get 6 hero decks for free? Thats like a dream come true. It cannot be true.

Those were some awesome stretch goals - I wonder if the Void Guard will have promo cards (because I would assume your couldnt use the SotM char cards with their individual decks)

This is the best kickstarter ever. They saved all the best for last.

So if Medico is getting his own deck, is this breaking the golden rule of there not being a hero dedicated solely to mass heals?

Even in the Sentinels deck Medico could deal damage.   

Anyone else notice that all the Covers from the ARG are coming true? Omnitron-U, Alternates for the Prime Wardens, now individual heroes for the sentinels? I see 3 covers left that need fulfilling: Be The Gate, End Of Days, and Scion's Aid :D
http://sotm.wdfiles.com/local--files/sotm-arg/bethegate.jpg
http://sotm.wdfiles.com/local--files/sotm-arg/endofdays.jpg
http://sotm.wdfiles.com/local--files/sotm-arg/scionsaid.jpg

I figure Scion's Aid will be a part of the game, so could it be that the 750K SG is promos for the Be The Gate cover, and the 1M SG is an Ennead related SG?

I would expect Be The Gate to be part of the "mission" deck mentioned on the front page of the KS

OMG THAT UPDATE!

True, but he will still likely have a lot of cards dedicated to healing others. It's been a few years since they said "no healers" so I'm sure they've had plenty of time to work him out so that he won't break the game.

Be The Gate could open up possibilities for even more promo cards, but I don't know if that's gonna happen. Would be cool, though. I'd love to have quite a few of the character featured on that card as promos.

As for Scion's Aid, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that it can result in another Luminary promo. Just a hunch.

And End of Days? Not too sure myself…

Edit: fixing 'Scion Said' to 'Scion's Aid'. I'm a stupid.

That's an interesting and exciting thought! But how would they do the Be The Gate cover? I'm not sure promos would cut it to really give the flavor of those mashups.

Ah, you have a point. So Be The Gate is probably covered. Does that mean that only End Of Days is left? Or maybe Scion's Aid too? 
Now I'm picturing them announcing that the $1M goal is that there will be another box set of heroes like the Sentinels, only this time it's the Ennead. 10 heroes: the 9 Ennead plus Anubis, plus an alternate for Ra.

La Comadora. Called it! And her "Curse of the Black Spot" promo is sooo cool! Her black spot looks A LOT like the hole in Akash T's chest when she takes on void energies. I wonder if they are related?

Lifeline. Awesome. Not too much to say here, but the markings on Blood Mage's chest look AWFULLY CLOSE to the ones on Skinwalker Gloomweaver! What are the chances that this "bloog magic" was used by the cult of gloom as well? This doesn't bode well.

90's XTREAME Prime Wardens? YES PLEASE!

THE SENTINELS GET THEIR OWN DECKS?!?!?! WHAAAAAAAAT?! No one saw that one coming. MIND. BLOWN. And they look AMAZING

I wish! But there's no way they could afford to provide that with every pledge.

My only concern is that the update implies that Completionist Guise will only be available to those who are receiving the box.

It does no such thing. Rest easy dude.

It does no such thing. Rest easy dude.

Actually it does. nvm.

You would get it in the alt art hero promos anyway

I can't speak for anyone else, but as someone who will be getting the box and the variant pack (assuming Guise is coming in that as well) I wont need two copies, so I'm happy to arrange to give it to someone who isn't getting either

I could see lots of healing being necessary to fight OblivAeon -- how many regular Sentinels games end with the team at under 10 HP, having won by the skin of their teeth? And now, with OblivAeon, we're going to be doing multi-part missions against Scions and other villains. Sounds to me like you'd need a dedicated healer to survive that.

From the Comments

Completionist Guise will be in the Ultimate Collector's Case, the Complete Hero Collection, and the 5th Anniversary Foil Hero Collection!

Then why is he specifically listed with the other contents of the box? I really want to believe that everyone will get him, and I think they will, but until GtG confirms this I will remain slightly worried.

EDIT: Never mind, they literally just confirmed this, whew!

So...am I right in counting that there are (so far???) going to be 11 new hero decks?

Luminary

Harpy

Akash'Thriya

BenchMark

Stuntman

La Comodora

LifeLine

plus a new deck for each sentinel?

Sweet biscuits, this is awesome!

I'm also especially happy we have some dimentions to work with for the Collector's box. I didn't realize it before, but that thing is gonna be MASSIVE. I like that they're gonna add in magnetic clasps to keep it closed, hope it's gonna be strong enough to KEEP it closed when I will goof and accidentally hold the box from the wrong side, or when I drop it.

And it looks like we get a peek at some of the new tokens. Cool, they might add in 'nemesis' tokens.

I haven't even pledged yet!  Waiting for the paycheck on Friday so I can properly budget.

Ok, guys, need your help.  I was getting OblivAeon and the Heroes pack regardless, and now that I've seen the update, I'm all in on that box.

Which leaves the question:  Do I get the foil hero promos?  I'm sitting there asking myself if foil versions would actually be something good, much less worth an additional $30.

So sell me on them.  Go.

You're supposed to play with one(Gasp! The collector's value!), sleeve and display the second, and sleeve and seal away the foil.

OBVIOUSLY.

Well, they will be shiny.

And pretty.

Shiny and pretty.

I'm not fond of foil cards, and it is really hard to get a good idea of what they'll look like through just a picture. Just remember that you can always alter your pledge amount if you decide to get or not get the foil cards.

They are shiny.

And we want to Reach 1 million, More stuff for Foote To Scream about!!!

Isn't it funny that the entire comic series is centered around the Freedom 5, but we don't have any "Freedom 5" promos? But we sure as hell are getting a second set of Prime Warden promos.

This is not a complaint. I love PW. But it just struck me as odd ya dig?

I am surprised as well Foote that there hasn't been a promo Freedom Five.   The closest to it is Freedom Six with Shattered Timelines. 

Hmm. A possible stretch-goal?

Though admitedly there have been a decent amount of promos for each of the FV that they may not see the need to make a super team promo set.

I was just saying the exact same thing to DefeatedDust. Considering the F5 is the flagship team, it's odd that PW and the Sentinels are getting more content than them. Freedom Six does count, I suppose.

EDIT: More content as a team, I mean. Obviously each member has a number of promos, but those aren't part of a set.

Part of that might be the "Every Legacy is different" rule.  But it does seem odd.

Every one of the FV has two promos or more, though, so they're not hurting for representation.

What if the $1 million is a freedom five deck?

I'm wondering, since I think the initial funding wave is possiblly over, how long will it take us to get to the $750K and $1 million marks.

29 days. Give or take.

Oh you.

We still have a few group buys being arranged, that should give a push near the end of the KS (though not a $500,000 push!).

He's not wrong.  Big kickstarters usually see two very distinct periods of funding: one for the first few days as all the fans who have been waiting for it buy in, and then one in the last 2 days when everyone who set a reminder decides if they want to.

My hope is that in the next... 20ish hours, we hit 600k. if we do, i am entirely certain we'll make the million.

Will the promo pack versions of the new promos (O-U, Completionist Guise, extreme Skyscraper, etc, and all the new heros) be alternate art as well?

The F5 (other than Legacy) have promos to represent them outside the Freedom Five.

I…doubt it? Since they're new?

Rather than certainty we'll hit the million, I feel like we needed 500k by 24 hours (we did it!), 600k by 48 hours, and 750 by the end of the weekend for it to still be feasible. This is definitely a kcikstarter campaign where the first wave will be the biggest, the middle will be painfully slow, and the end will be another smaller wave. By the end of the weekend, those waiting for paychecks or time to REALLY sit back and see what they are getting into should also have pledged. That's when the only people left will be those waiting on reminders and those that find it late.

It may do a bit better if it is posted somewhere on the campaign page that you do NOT need the core set to play this game. The now 11 heroes you get covers the hero variety you'd want. You also get a couple environments, though seemingly only one villain at the moment.

Dang, La Commodora looks AWESOME.

Not to mention all the people that are pooling together money for group buys, apparently.

It says it clear as day on the front page Phantom. All unlocked variants throught SGs will also have alt art in that special pack.

Don't be surprised about a rather large 24 hour notice push. It happens every KS iv ever been a part of.

"To set these cards apart from their original print runs, Adam Rebottaro (artist for all things Sentinels Comics) is doing ALL NEW ART for every single card!"

Since this will be the Original run of all OblivAeon related promos, I don't think that counts for new art.

Common dude. Read a bit.

"That is why we're releasing the Complete Hero Variant Collection! This pack of cards includes EVERY hero variant card we've ever made, as well as the new ones released as part of this campaign."

"Currently, this Complete Hero Variant Collection contains 57 variant hero characters cards! However, as we unlock more and more Stretch Goals, we will be adding alternate art versions of those cards to this pack as well! Keep watching here to see that number go up"

I'm not sure how much they want to push this: while you are correct in theory, I don't know whether OblivAeon would be a satisfying first introduction to the Sentinels game.

That means ALL the promos will be in the pack. Not that they'll all have new art.

Edit: And believe you me, I've been reading the Kickstarter page over and over since it released.

But before this drags on and these posts get any longer, I'm glad that they're doing the Promo Packs. We can just see about asking someone in the know when the chance arises.

This question was asked ... somewhere and the answer was "Good question! I'll ask Adam." No answer since then.

"Currently, this Complete Hero Variant Collection contains 57 variant hero characters cards! However, as we unlock more and more Stretch Goals, we will be adding alternate art versions of those cards to this pack as well! Keep watching here to see that number go up"

Common Phantom. It's pretty crystal clear. I'll copy paste the entire front page for you if I need to.

True. It does seem like it will be a very different way of playing than it has been thus far. I get the feeling this boss on normal mode is gonna be more terrifying than any other on advanced. Can't imagine what he'll be like on advanced…

Cool your engine dude.

Also, "Common"?

On the one hand, I'm still convinced that this will hit the $1 million marker by the end of the campaign.

On the other hand, I'm beyond happy with everything we are getting already. Even though I want ALL THE THINGS! I'm really pleased with how everything has gone so far, and I totally think I will be getting more than my money's worth on this amazing Kickstarter!

I believe he means, "C'mon"

La Capitan hero deck, Called it. Woth 11 new heroes don't even know where to start. I lied it will be Harpy, La Comodora, Female Lumanary, And Xtreme AA because I need to stick to the man MAN. Nothing like playing intrument to get you in supershape, Xtreme AA has the same musles that Haka has.

I can't even Imagine what 750k will unlock, my mind is mostly blown now. The gates are open so anyhting can happen, Every hero can get a Alt timeline promo. Human Sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.

Now i need a Paycheck so I can buy the Foils, (shinies). I still Want a mini MDP to carry the box set around. 

Yup, I asked that question. And as Matchstickman said, the response was they'd check with Adam. At this point, I'd be surprised if it was all new art, though.  This campaign alone is giving us a bunch of new promos:

• 1 for each hero introduced thus far (7)

• 1 for each hero without a promo already (5 since Skyscraper has 3)

• 1 for Guise, Captain Cosmic, and Visionary (3)

• X-TREME PRIME WARDENS!!! (5)

• (Assuming) new promos for each member of Void Guard as well (4)

That's 20 promos that we currently know about. That's not counting the 11 new heroes needing a non-promo hero cards (31 total), they would need to be counted for the foil pack as well.

That would mean, for the foil pack (which includes alternate art for all original hero cards as well) and the base game, Adam would need to draw 62 original hero cards to give the promo packs "all original art". Just counting this expansion. At this point, it just doesn't seem worth it.

It's spellout out explicitly that the new variants we get through SGs will have alt art in that pack. Idk whats so crazy about a few more panels. Do you have any idea the total number of arts Adam has to art for the whole project? A few more character cards won't exactly be a deal breaker.

With that said, Adam has a loooooot of work ahead of him. I'm sure he will love every second of it though.

Do I ever wish that I had 400 spare dollars (Give or take the shipping to Europe) I would love to upgrade my digital to having the physicals and this seems the perfect time to do it!

If you create a go fund me type account for it I'll chip in one dollar.

Here's a theory for one of the stretch goals. Albeit a lame one, but still, just popped into my head, curious on if people would love it or hate it.

A set of rules that allow you to "deck build" in a sense, and explains how to go about it. Want to play as Chrono-Ranger but don't come accross your bounties enough to deal with the horde of enemies you face? Mix in a little bit of Tachyon's deck with him to accellerate your draws and play cards a bit quicker. Maybe you can mix decks half and half, but any trades have to be 1-for-1 (One-shot has to replace a One-shot). Or maybe you can change up to 10 cards in your deck however you like with any other cards from any other deck.

I don't know, just spitballing here. Thoughts?

Foote, please stop expressing exasperation. It's unnecessarily aggressive.

Math Fun For $1,000,000

The $399 Option is Pushing up the Cost per Backer Rate

At 3:34pm 2/10/2016

4077 Backers at $551,698 For an Average of $135.32

7408 Backers At an Average of $135 Equals $1,000,080

Need 7408

                                                                                                    Minus 4077

Equals 3331 More Backers To 1 Million

All these stretch goal are really a magnificient way to end the game (even if I will have nightmares about playing the Stuntman against Ambuscade, with the help of the Sentinels as both a deck and two individual heroes... and how to explain it.)

But what makes me giddy is that they are "just" stretch goals - and informations about the heroes in the box. I can't wait for the details of the game itslef - rather than every thing we get as a bonus ! We know nearly nothing, right now.

Haven't seen a Comment by Craig (Or is his job at the moment giving the rest of the team Oxygen or sharpening pencils for Adam LOL) Or Just trying to keep up with all the Twitter, Comments on Kickstarter, Forums etc… is he needing a 24 hour power drink???

I yearn for deckbuilding too, but the core of Sentinels of the Multiverse is about expression over customization. The game wouldn't be built around deckbuilding, which means end results of deckbuilding will span a full spectrum of garbage to overpowered.

A tamer version of that could be one hero whose deck can be modified from a sideboard during setup. I don't know if that's coming out, though.

As long as he remembers to pee. I keep reminding him, but I have to sleep sometimes.

I was going to say Blade Luminary for the original and Real Luminary for the promo.  Luminary just seems unnatural on him.

For promo Stuntman:  Contra Stuntman.  I'm hoping I'm not the only one who sees a resemblance there.  I actually think he seems like a Contra hero, Rambo, and Duke Nukem mash-up, but Contra was the first thing that came to mind for me.

The new Cosmic…  I'm undecided between Two-Face Cosmic and Combo Cosmic.

Let's not fight about the Completionist Guise here. I beleive that Greater than Games had been asked this, and let's wait. If they haven't by the next update, we can contact them again. We ahve a great thing here! A good, fun, ambitious community! Insane, and inbalanced when it comes to our fandom. but we are deep down good people. Let's celebrate oblivion with donuts, pie, and helping those in need get the Complete edition!

Conjoined Cosmic

Combosmic.

Captain Cosmic now undeniably has Firestorm as an inspiration.

Here are some answers!

1) Someone asked a while back if the unlocked mini-expansions, and promos, and Void Guard expansion, are really free to all backers. The answer is yes, they are really free to all backers.

2) Someone correctly stated this, but I wanted to officially say it here: the Completionist Guise variant will appear in the following products: Ultimate Collector's Case, Complete Hero Variant Collection, and 5th Anniversary Foil Hero Collection. It will not be available outside of those products, so if you are not getting one of those products, you will not get it.

3) Every card in the 5th Anniversary Foil Hero Collection and the Complete Hero Variant Collection will have a different piece of character art on it than any other instance of that card in any other product that is currently available, or that will be available at the time of its release. This means that Adam is going to draw two pieces of character art for each of the new hero variants; one for the regular release, and another for those products. 

So you think I should kickstart my funding of a kickstarter?

How Meta

Thanks Paul

Awesome news on the art! Poor Adam....

Has anyone told Adam he is doing all that work for us? We love him for it, but yeah. Poor Adam…

Well Hopefully he has been getting a head Start, They have been planning this for 5 years.

Oh. My. This is incredible. Thank you.

Thanks Paul for the summary!

One more question:  I believe it's been said before that the plan was for every hero to have at least one promo.  So what were you guys planning to do if we didn't make the stretch goals?  Would those promos just stay unreleased, or would they be kept in reserve for future special occasions?  Would they have still ended up in the promo pack?  Also, are there any plans to give the Void Guard promos?  Or do they count as already having promos because of the Sentinels?

i so want more details on the villians and missions and how they work in this one. also want to see if I can use the missions for any villian or does it only work for the Cosmic Enitity.

probably should ask are we officially calling the Cosmic Enitity OblivAeon now?

We've done this a decent bit, even had a campaign of deck building heroes vs. deck building villains to see how ridiculous it could get.  It got ridiculous.

Building balanced combo decks is also fun, but much harder, as you have to resist just putting all the best cards in.

I do to! I assume these gameplay bits will come in a future update, once the rush of stretch goals dies down.

I am!

so tomorrow? <<< looks towards Christopher and gang with puppy dog eyes

I wish they had a video or something of what the foils will look like. Sometimes foils are done poorly and look worse than non-foil (just flat shiny across the card) and other times they're done really well (only shiny in places that highlight the art and appropriately colored).

Well that's me spending all my budget on this.

Wasn't planning on buying anything else entertainment-wise, at any rate.

This is a good idea.  I'd be much more likely to upgrade to the foils if we got a good look at a sample.

Math to $750,000

So we are still staying at $135 Average

If that continues then we need:

5556 Backers with an Average of $135 to Make $750,060

As of 6:07pm 2/10/2016

Need 5556

Have 4192

Need 1364 More Bakers to reach $750,000

Based on the current progress, I'd imagine 600K sometime in the night...pretty darn good.  I would imagine that this is where it starts to slow for a while due to no intermediate stretch goals between 500 and 750K.

Math to $600,000

Yeah we should hit it by midnight

4445 Backers at an Average of $135 Equals $600,075

Need 4445

Minus 4244

Need 201 Backers to hit $600,000

Dshields:
You’re stuff is brilliant
Thanks!

God payday cannot come faster! I am really stoked about this and trust me, >G has failed to dissapoint! I’m chipping in as soon as I can.

Also, all the stretch goal stuff is super tight! I 'm most excicited for the Comic and the Void Gaurd! Though a question to Paul, Adam, and the crew: Will the hero-villains and the Void Gaurd have the same nemesis icons as their previous incarnations?

You don't get charged until the Kickstarter is over so if you know you'll have the money it won't affect your wallet right now.

Indeed. I don't currently have all of the money I pledged, but I will definitely have it on March 11, when the kickstarter is funded.

Thanks :),  I also Sent a Message to all the Local "Media" Here in Kc of our Kickass Campain by our State Brethern, So who knows mabie one of them will mention a blurb

One of the first things I'm gonna do is have a 3 hero VotM game with Luminary, Stuntman, and La Comodora  Vs.  Blade, Ambuscade, and la Capitan. Probably in Time Cataclysm...  The new heroic versions of themselves Vs. The old villainous versions!

Then I'm gonna have a 5 hero game with The Void Guard and The Sentinels!

I wonder what names the Void Guard is gonna go by?  If it's still Medico, Mainstay, Idealist, and Writhe, won't that have some overlap with some of The Sentinel's hero deck?  Some of their cards refer to those 4 by name, so I would assume they'll get shiny new hero names while they're a part of the Void Guard team.

I'm assuming they'll have altered names much like the villains turned hero

I get the feeling from that art that they only just started designing the Void Guard, so they might not have the names down yet.

Yeah, most likely they'll give them different names to avoid confusion.

Honestly I wouldn't mind if the art for those heroes were done in "Sketch" style…

Yeah, like the incap for Fixer? That'd be cool.

Some relevant tweets:

More finished art for the Void Guard: https://twitter.com/GtGAdam/status/697537649469304832

Christopher being his usual helpful self on Nemesis icons: https://twitter.com/GTGChristopher/status/697452984976846848

EDIT: Corrected the second link

Both of those links lead to Adam's tweet about the Void Guard.

Now that I think about it, I would totally buy some sketch card versions of some character cards.  Either full on sketch cards, with it actually hand drawn on the card, or "Sketch styled" where it "looks" as if it's been hand drawn, but is really printed as normal.

Thanks! Fixed.

Thank you - I tried to find Christopher's tweet and utterly failed at that. Is twitter becoming more arcane or am I just bad at it?

Not sure. For this particular one, you need to go to Christopher's twitter page ( x.com ), then click on the "Tweets & Replies" tab, then scroll down a bit to where Christopher is being cryptic.

Ah, okay. Twitter is becoming more arcane! Also, I am bad at it.

Average is up to $136 Per Backer

Need 4412

Minus 4374

38 Backers to go till 600K

Yea, but I would rather commit to buying when I actually have the money than say so when I don't. Just in case something horrible happens.

600k 11:30pm

600K Reached, and Still climbing 750K is becoming Closer and still hopeing for the 1 million.

At 11:38pm 2/10/2016

4409 Backers With a total of $600,824 for an Average of $136.27

To Reach 1,000,000

7353 Backers at an Average of $136 For a total of $1,000,008

To Reach $750,000

5515 Backers at an Average of $136 For a total of $750,040

That’s 2944 More Backers to Reach 1 Million

And 1106 More Backers to reach $750,000

The $399 Option was the Smartest and Best thing for us GTG could do. The Cost Per Backer keeps going up which makes reaching 1 million easyer.

Pledge Level          Backers                          Total

 $1.00               119                         $119.00

 $39.00                 81                          $3,159.00

 $54.00                 439                         $23,706.00

 $69.00                 95                           $6,555.00

 $84.00                 89                           $7,476.00

 $99.00                 66                           $6,534.00

 $109.00                882                         $96,138.00

 $139.00                2237                      $310,943.00

 $249.00                158                        $39,342.00

 $299.00                100                         $29,900.00

 $399.00                137                         $54,663.00

  Total   $578,535.00

That Leaves $22,289 For Art Prints shipping and extra’s

Thanks for breaking this all down, dshields.

https://www.kicktraq.com/hotlist/

Back at #1, they must be on eastern time

Don't forget to suggest some search tags on kicktraq, a decent amount of people search for kickstarters to back on kicktraq instead of kickstarter since you can search by keywords and tags (and they have more searchable tags than kickstarter does)

I've already suggested all the ones that I think fit SotM in general. But the tags might not show up unless enough people suggest them.  There's a light green button that says [+ Suggest]

Edit: one that's not on their dropdown list, that I reccomend suggesting is "Standalone Expansion"  Since some might not know that you 'technically' don't need the core game to play.

So, this seems like a good place to post a list of everything I can confirm us getting, because it is making my head explode.

Base 5 heroes: Luminary, Harpy, Akash'Thriya, La Commadora, and Lifeline (previously Baron Blade, The Matriarch, Akash'Bhuta, La Capitan, and Deadline respectively)

6 stretch goal heroes: Stuntman, Benchmark, and the 4 Void Guard (Previously known as Ambuscade, {Revenant?} Writhe, Mainstay, Idealist and Dr. Medico respectively)

18 new variants: Omnitron-U, Parse (Fugue State), Extremist Sky-scraper, Visionary Unleashed, Captain Cosmic (Vengeance? Whispers of OblivAeon?), Completionist Guise, Luminary (Genderbent? Hero of the People?), Darkwatch Harpy, Stuntman (Ramboscade), Supply and Demand Benchmark, Akash'Thriya Spirit of the Void, La Comodora Curse of the Black Spot, Lifeline Bloodmage, the Five 90's Xtreme Prime Wardens (Argent Adept, Fanatic, Captain Cosmic, Haka, and Tempest)

There are an Unknown number of Environments in the Base, but we do know that Fort Adamant and The Nexus of the Void have been added, so 2 there and I'll assume at least 1 environement in the base.

"Several Villain Decks" according to the page in the Base. 2 Will be OblivAeon and the Aeon Men. Scions will make up the rest. I feel a minimum of 3 Scions, but if we use Progeny's deck as a reference we'll end up with 4 Scions (Flame, Blight, Storm and Frost)

So... staring at a minimum of 19 new decks with 18 variant cards coming down the pipe. And likely more than that. If we assume 3 environments base and 4 scion decks... 22 new decks of Sentinels goodness.

Oh and this is ignoring the Mission Deck since we have no idea how it will even work or effect the game.

Just do it. It could and should never be supported as an 'official' way to play, because it's ridiculous and broken, but it's also very fun. We played some games on these very forums:

https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/sentinels-deckbuilding-apostate-the-kleptomaniac-4772

https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/sentinels-deckbuilding-a-new-challenger-4809

https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/sentinels-deckbuilding-aka-shattered-heroes-game-3-4910

https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/sentinels-deckbuilding-game-four-fourth-time-lucky-4942

https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/sentinels-deckbuilding-v-is-for-vengeance-5028

https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/sentinels-deckbuilding-game-six-the-iron-lady-5200

https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/sentinels-deckbuilding-game-seven-flippin-heck-5236

Man, we should do another one of these. And ban Fixer, because Jesus Christ…

Yeah there is a reason Fixer has such an "underpowered" base power and somewhat limited card acquition.  Because fit him with Cosmic Weapon/Rod of Anubis/Micro-Assembler and look out

Seeing you list one of these made me realize we got at least one more direct Oblivaeon hint besides the code on Parse's incap side: Infinitor has a card "Whispers of Oblivion."

for the promo Luminary, I love the Hero of the People description.

Yeah, they really hid that one in plain sight, esecpially since many of us speculated Capt Cosmic/Inifintor's origin were tied to the Cosmic Entity and the Shards.

Oblivion Shards was another obvious example of this

Something about the Benchmark Supply and Demand logo design bugs me

The $399 Price point is doing great Pushed up Price per Backer now to $137

So at 8:04am 2/11/2016

4522 Backers at an Average of $137.34 for a Total of $621,031

To reach 1,000,000

7300 Backers at an Average of $137 for a Total of $1,000,100

Need 2778 more Backers for 1 Million

5475 Backers at an Average of $137 for a Total of $750,075

Need 953 more Backers for $750,000

Just think what would have happened if there was a playtester option.

All this new stuff is going to keep us playing for…a while. Just on its own. These forums are going to be fun for the next six months.

More so than usual, I mean.

I'm pretty impressed with the momentum, even after the inevitable slowdown.  I think 750K is certainly achievable by the end of hte weekend/early next week.

It's been said before, but thanks for the awesome job dshields.

I agree playtester at a $40 add on should be an option. We will probably need it with all the new stuff coming out lol.

After this glut of information it feels weird that we will not be getting an update today. Backing is still going at a good clip so $750K seems within reach, but $1M is a very big number. So we may only get 1 more stretch goal. 

Who said we won't get an update today?   Not meeting a stretch goal hasn't stopped other KS campaigns of theirs from having an update.   It just won't be quite as massive.  

That guy!

Thanks I just love playing with Numbers, and its so exciting to see this soar. I am sure GTG are just as excited as we are, what a way to end it with a record breaking sales Kickstarter. they are close to raiseing twice now than thier most funded Kickstarter previously.

Christopher did tell one comment that is might be a possibilaty, We only have 11+ Decks to playtest, and 11+ Promo cards to get ready in 3-4 monthes before Gen Con.  I wonder if GTG will be sending us each a Pack of 24 hour energy drinks LOL.

How about we ban your Undead bird summoning Flechettes spam?

Yeah.

I think it would be fun to build combo decks from just 2 heroes that are more balanced and try them out, I mean Be the Gate is cannon now, so why not?

I'm already pulling back from playing SotM this wee./weekend because I know how much I'm going to be playing once we start fully playtesting all of this stuff.  

Also, there are still a lot of things to update, like the villain decks, how missions work, etc

Shouldn't that be 24 variants?  Sky-scraper is three cards herself, and then, per the "All Heroes get a Variant" rule, the Void Guard should be getting individual variants, as well, since they will be four unique new heroes.

They told us when we joined that there would be other expenses. I just assumed they meant printing costs.

Hello fellows. I'm new to this kick starter and stretch goals. Do we receive these items when the game comes out or before. 

They all ship together normally.

I believe you will just recieve the foil cards around Gencon (August) if you are backed at that tier, the others should ship out when the game comes out.

Welcome to the forums!

This begs the question, will the second piece of character art be redrawn versions of their originals, or will we have for instance two brand new artworks for Young Legacy (including the one revealed in the KS announcement)?

Thank You guys.  Really a good game. Had a couple of gatherings and most of my buddies either purchased the board game or downloaded the game.  Looking forward to the finale.  

Hi True,

How Kickstarters will work is you back it at whatever level. They will get everything in and then ship you everything including stretch goals all at once. Then later down the road everything will pop up in the store but GTG will not ship to retail till we get our products.

With that being said the Foil card stuff will be shipped out in July

naw we will probably get some form of update. I want to say for their last preorder they did something everyday except the weekends. Have to remember we havent seen the enviornment yet or the missions or any of the villians. Plus we have no clue what the other heroes are currently up to in the game so they could give some story details. Maybe some details on the comic? Expand on the backstory of the heroes they have shown since we got a very generic blub in my opioion without much meat to them.

Would love to know more details on the oblivion shards story wise as well and if they will come into play at all. Oblivion shard deck anyone? The deck is kinda like the title deck but instead the heroes or villians or even enviroment do actions and if they accomplish a task instead of getting a point towards victory, they get a shard that makes them stronger somehow. This could be very environment deck now that I am thinking about it.

Like a mission deck, where you complete certain objectives and gain a reward?

yes but we have no clue how the missions work yet and what the rewards will be. My thought process with this was more the villian could also get the reward as well but again we dont know if that will be how it works as either.

The missions will probably have two types of rewards -- allies and something that will go toward making OblivAeon vulnerable.

Still holding at $137.32 Per Backer

To Double the Amount Raised by Tactics they need:

4780 Backers at an Average of $137 for a total of $654,860

They Have: 4599

They Need 181 more Backers to double the last most funded Kickstarter campaign.

New update is live now, although nothing in it is a real surprise to anybody here.

the biggest clarification is that the variant packs will contain new art for the Argent Adept, featuring Anthony Drake, but with the power/hp on the Kvothe promo. That leaves Worldbuilders as the only place to get the original.

Well it was nice seeing all the Legacy card art.

Now I'm annoyed again that I can't afford both the foil cards and the case.

I'm guessing, then, that the "not-Kvothe" promo will be the version that shows up in the video game?

I'm still not 100% sure whether or not we'll be able to get all of the promos with their original art (redrawn or otherwise). Completionist Guise would be proud of me...I still envy the original Young Legacy.

I  believe that any promos in the variant pack will have new art. That's how I've understood everything said about it over the years, anyway.

I'm not a big fan of foil cards, but I AM a fan of the idea of having updated art for base hero character cards, not JUST the promo variants. I wonder if there will ever be an option for that? Or will the only way to get America's Finest Legacy in new art, for example, be JUST through the foil box?

I want all of the arts and will gladly pay for them! Just not in foil as I see foil as a distraction from the art itself...

I know the answer to this! A recent KS update revealed that they will indeed get variants.

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To quote from that very update, and the reason my question exists:

Every hero variant card we have ever printed will be in the Complete Hero Collection. 

Every hero character card we have ever printed will be in the 5th Anniversary Foil Hero Collection.

…makes it sound like one JUST has updated art for promo variants, and the foil one has new art for BOTH variants and base character cards… Just… In foil…

Edit: I'd love to have EVERY character card in updated art, not JUST the variants.  But if the only option for that is to get them in foil, I will be a sad bugbear.

It looks like having them in foil is the only option.

My reading agrees with Bugbear -- the complete hero collection will have all the promo cards (with new art), but not all of the standard character cards, while the foil hero collection will have both.

BTW, my count of the current number of announced cards as part of this Kickstarter is 669. This assumes, though it hasn't actually been announced, that the four new hero decks for the individual members of the Southwest Sentinels will each get a promo card as well.

11 hero decks x 41 cards = 451

2 env decks x 15 cards = 30

New promo cards: 24

Complete Hero Collection: 37 existing promos plus 24 new promos = 61

Foil Hero Collection: 61 promos plus 37 hero decks plus 2 extra for Sky-Scraper and 3  extra for The Sentinels = 103

Of course, there's probably a bunch of villain cards and maybe some environment cards to be counted, once we know more ...

If the hero variant pack didn’t include the standard heroes, why show us the Finest Legacy art update? I thought the hero pack included everything.

Regardless, we have just decided to get the foil one, because yay driving up the numbers! And I just realized…they are shipping out the foil pack for Gen Con, but OblivAeon doesn’t appear until later. So I am totally going to play the Void Guard with the Sentinels deck!

The 5th anniversary foil hero collection:

The 5th Anniversary Foil Hero Collection is a box full of beautiful hero characters, all in foil and with new art! It will have not just the hero variants, but all of the hero character cards, including those from the core game and each expansion! However, we want to make this a special thing for just this year, so we're only going to make enough to cover this Kickstarter plus a few hundred extras to sell at Gen Con and to retailers. After 2016, these will not be available for purchase from Greater Than Games. If we have any left over, we will use them for charity events or other special things.

The hero variant pack:

That is why we're releasing the Complete Hero Variant Collection! This pack of cards includes EVERY hero variant card we've ever made, as well as the new ones released as part of this campaign. To set these cards apart from their original print runs, Adam Rebottaro (artist for all things Sentinels Comics) is doing ALL NEW ART for every single card! Check out how great America's Newest Legacy and Rook City Wraith look!

They're showing the Finest Legacy art update to sell the foil collection.

Counting Sky-scraper as 1, since I was counting Variants instead of cards.

I do not know if we have confirmation on the Void Guard getting Variants. It can be easily assumed but the argument could also be made that they do not have a Variant, seeing as they are semi-variants themselves… super-variants?

So would all of the new heroes in OblivAeon but they have variants already

Well, GtG has always said each hero would have a variant, but then again the 4 Sentinels already each have a variant card, so they could not get them and GtG would technically still be correct

Something that just occurred to me - will the incap art on all of the variant and foil cards be the same or re-drawn as well? (not that I am clamoring for it to be new)

I would expect the incap art to be new as well, although possibly showing the same scenes.

Do you think that the Skyscraper promos will be mix & matchable like the Sentinels are?

Considering their reasoning for The Sentinels being mix and matchable, I see no reason why that wouldn't continue to Sky-Scraper.

For those who do not know the reasoning, it was because people would do it anyway.

Ha. Yeah, they must have learned from their initial stand of not having two variant heroes in the same game.  

Who hasn't had a Triple Legacy on Iron Legacy battle? 

That's totally different - that is the same hero deck.  It isn't like they are saying using two Mainstays and two Medico's is ok, or two SS huge cards and one tiny

My train of thought was less about the parallels in the specific examples and more about idea of having a firm stand against something that players are going to do anyway. 

Two of the same hero deck in a single game isn't allowed, but kind of immediately became an accepted house rule for novelty games. I imagined this may have reinforced their attitude of not creating strict rules against things that players are going to try anyway and instead go with the attitude of "it wasn't designed for that, it's not balanced around it... but knock yourself out". 

Ah I see.  Well, I can say that in playtesting many of us did mix and match the Sentinels promos so I tend to think they actually are balanced around that concept.  I'd imagine the same will happen for Sky Scraper

An interesting house rule/variant might an unstable SkyScraper were you have both versions of her huge and tiny cards and when you switch to those forms you flip a coin to see which one you get 

Replying to my own post because it turns out I can pay for the $139 tier, it's just a question of what I'm willing to sacrifice in March to get it.

Electricity?

Nope, electricity is solid. I mostly mean WoW and Netflix.

oh. You won't have time for that with all the SotM you'll be playing!!

If only. :D

Ladies and gentelmen, boys and girls, it is my greatest duty and highest honor to announce that today....was PAYDAY!
 

I'm now a part of the cool crowd!

This is my reading, too, alas - sadly, much as I would adore new art for the original 10 heroes in partcular (Sentinels art has gotten SO much better over the past five years, it's amazing!), I've just never liked foiling effects in trading cards.  So, I'll be forced to make do with "just" the fancy new promo cards.

This is what is known as a "first world problem".

WoW, definitely WoW. MMOs should not be on a subscription based model unless they're constantly adding content- and no, the expansions don't count since you still have to pay for those up front separate from the subscription costs. =P


Back on subject: Over 2/3 of the way to 1,000,000, and day three brought in over 70,000 USD despite this being the time when most of these begin to level off. At this rate, getting to 1,000,000 seems almost like a certainty, and we'll likely hit the 750k before the next update. It could average HALF of yesterday's pledges, and it would be able to make the 1,000,000 mark, even WITHOUT the initial surge.

Or, since the variant is going to extremes of her size-changing abilities, you play it so when you play a card that says to switch to Huge when you are already Huge, you go to Extremist Huge. Same for Tiny. Normal could be player choice!

I've got a theory about something that could be in the last two stretch goals. But I'm open to counter-arguments.

I'm fairly sure that one of these two goals will include promos for a Scion-based OblivAeon hero(money on it being Luminary. Why else would he have that silvery hand? It sure doesn't look like any kind of tech that he's made before.), and promos for the Void Guard.

Side question: I've never thought of this, but can you mix and match the promos for SWSentinels? Like have two be the regular versions and two be the Fort Adamant trained versions? Or do you have to use just one set of them?

Hmm.

It was never the feather, Phantom5613.  The answer was within the most recent page of the threat you were commenting on all along.

You can indeed mix and match the existing Sentinels promos.  It was explicitly stated so by GtG and many folks playtested them as such (as well as playtesting them as their own set)

The Sentinels are designed to work *better* together in their own sets. Let's make that clear. But there is nothing stoping you from mixing and matching.

I personally find mixing them reprehensible, but I'm a grumugeon

All you whippersnappers can take your fancy "pro-moes" or whatever they call them these days and Get Off My Lawn.

If they wanted heroes to have different powers they would have given them those powers in the deck.

kids these days.

I, for one, would like to see a plot of the total money raised on this Kickstarter vs time elapsed. I’m curious just how rapid the initial rise was.

dshields posted updates here with the hourly totals throughout the first day, it would be easy to generate the plot from there.

Question on the grandpa legacy art. I thought legacy was the first parson who could fly? So why is grandpa legacy flying in the new art? The fan boy in me wants Adam to fix this or at least give him a jetpack

Kicktraq... tracks... that sort of thing: http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-oblivaeon/

The father of Grandpa Legacy could fly according to his bio here http://sentinelsofthemultiverse.com/multiverse/heroes/legacy

I thought Legacy got bullet proof, which made Grandpa in the war that much more impressive.

Correct. I think Grandpa Legacy got his "inspiring presence" wasnt it? Edit: Nope, it was keen eyesight

Yes, but sometimes you want more detail than the daily charts.

I love how all the new art for the Legacies is done in a way that will simply fly on a foil print (puns, as always, intended). Paul and Pauline look great and really showcase how far Adam has come as an artist; I kind of prefer the original Greatest art, but the new one is still a great piece of work. I'm looking forward to seeing more of the alt-art over the coming weeks!

Maybe he isn't flying. Maybe he's falling with style.

Grandpa Legacy can fly and it is stated in his bio.

Yeah, I want more time resolution! Maybe I’ll go plot the totals from this thread in Excel when I get home (if XCOM doesn’t suck me in again).

Or one of those planes dropped him like a bomb and he's going to go wreck some Nazis' day.

The litle known origin of the Parson's 'Flying Smash'.

ok then I am confused. Each Legacy in the line is suppose to get a new power. so what did legacy get?

Superhuman durability. First Legacy who could stop bullets with his chest and stuff

Will the new storage box also hold the large villan cards? Also I hope we get a better idea how the mission cards work, cause I'd kinda like to know before I decide whether or not to jump in...

I'm assuming that all the new heroes will work with the old villains and old heroes with the new villain like before right

also I'm new to how lock starter works. So bare with me. If I chip in, I get the stuff before it's available on the market. Will the stretch goals also be for sale eventually? Is it better to hop in meaning it'll save me money in the long run depending on what I donate?

As an aside, I am sad to see how the tags on KickTrack are misleading. Ninjas, pirates, illustration, for kids, really ? It happens all the time on KT but, well.

The Storage box will hold all the cards ever released by >G, including promos, Large cards, and mini expansions

We should get more details on the mission cards before the end, but I can't confirm that.

Yes, everything in this expansion can be played with everything in all the old expansions

After the all backers have received their order, everything will go on sale, including all the stretch goals.

You do save money by chipping in now! A lot actually, given all the stretch goals. By backing at the $39 level, you get all the promos listed, plus the 2 mini-expansions AND the Void Guard big-mini-expansion.

Hope this answers all your questions!

thanks for your help! Even of I don't like the Oblivean play style, everything that's being offered makes it pretty worth it… I'm really excited about the villains turned heroes! Can't wait to see what other info they reveal! 

ChronoRanger_101, there's a space specifically for the large villain cards. See the detailed diagram in Updates #2 and #3. I also hope for a better idea how the mission cards work, and share your assumption about old heroes/new villains, etc.

In terms of kickstarter, you'll only get the stuff a short time before it's available on the market. About the stretch goals, that depends on the product and the stretch goal. In this case, you will get the following products that will be available eventually for retail (with the current stretch goals):

• OblivAeon expansion
• Hero variant collection (foiled or not) and carrying case, depending on your pledge level
• Benchmark mini-expansion
• Stuntman mini-expansion
• Void Guard small expansion (4 hero decks)

In addition, the following products will not be available for retail:

• 18 promo hero variant cards so far
• Art prints, if you add $1 to your pledge
• Large signed canvas print, at the $249 level

I think it's safe to say you will be getting a substantial discount over what you would pay later, except maybe at the $399 level.

Agreed. $40 for all the promos, 11 heroes, and 2 environments is definitely worth it in my opinion, even if you never touch OblivAeon in the end (The villain himself), though I am pumped to see what kind of fight OblivAeon will provide!

It's amazing to me how many ppl dont read the updates/main pages of these things. Not speaking about anyone specific, but it's pretty evident in the KS comment section that reading comprehension wasn't a lot of ppls strong suit in school (kind of like spelling is not one of mine)

Yup. I get particularly surprised by people asking questions in the comments of an update that literally answers that question right there.

(Is it really true that the mobile Kickstarter app doesn't let you read the FAQ? Major fail there.)

Yah… After I asked here I noticed that there was an updates tab… It answered a lot of the things I asked and then some. Oops…it's kinda hiddenish and I missed it the first time. 

Just for reference I asked Christopher his expectations funding wise for OblivAeon and this was his response:

I had a good feeling that we would fund. Maybe even in the first week. I had a reasonable hope that we would break $100k, and thought that maybe, JUST MAYBE, we might break $200k. But that seemed highly unlikely.

This is great.

No problem. There's a lot of information to absorb. In general on here we get pretty good questions, but the Kickstarter comments have a lot of people asking questions that are clearly answered.

Look honestly I still don't know that they will.

Peter, you're doing that thing again where you're living a few days in the past. Catch up.

Mustard!

I just can’t wait to see what the $50k stretch goal is!

I don't want to give it away, but it involves a karaoke machine.

On saving money by buying during the Kickstarter: Yes, you'll save money ON THE RETAIL PRICE. Often, though, products are sold at a discount from wholesalers. Combine that with the ability to possibly save on shipping by getting many products from the same wholesaler, and it is far from guaranteed that the Kickstarter is the best way to get the very best price.

There are some things in this Kickstarter that you will have difficulty getting other places:

• The new promo cards: Yes, you'd be able to later order the Hero Variant Collection, and thus get all of the cards, BUT the art on the new promos available via this Kickstarter is going to be different than the art in the Hero Variant Collection. So if you care about that and are not planning on being at a convention where GtG has a booth, this may be the only way to get _those_ cards with _that_ art save from buying them on eBay. Once you go the eBay route, you'd probably be saving money via the Kickstarter
• The Canvas print: Apologies if I've missed it, but it's not clear that the canvas print will be available after the Kickstarter. My guess is that if lots of people want to buy this in the future that GtG would do create more, but I think it's more likely that they'll get enough to fulfill Kickstarter orders and maybe a bit more, and then this will become unavailable.
• The Ultimate Collector's Box: They'll probably keep this in stock in their own web store, but it may be something that retailers aren't interested in and therefore distributors and wholesalers don't end up carrying it, so even if it _is_ available, it probably won't be available at a discount.

If your main interest is to get all of the cards and you don't care about having every single piece of art, and you don't need an extra box or a canvas print, AND YOU DON'T MIND possibly getting your games/cards later than other people, then you may have no particular need to order via the Kickstarter and can likely get a better price later.

Now, most of us may want you to order via the Kickstarter to help us get the total up to the unrevealed stretch goals, but don't kid yourself that you're saving money.

Well I'd say you save money on the mini expansions as those aren't part of the pledge cost.  

Are we getting an update today? I need my fix.

haha I feel like I just mentioned something about this…

In the last update they said the next update will be monday

No update until Monday as was stated in yesterday's post

Maybe. Depends on how much of a discount you get. Right now Coolstuffinc has the base game for $26.49. We have two hero and two environment mini-expansions announced so far. Right now Coolstuffinc is selling hero mini-expansions for $3.29 and env mini-expansions for $2.59. Total would be $38.30, which is a bit less than the retail of the base game.

It looks like the Kickstarter is throwing in 'free shipping' for US/Canada backers by basically tacking $10 on to all of the reward levels. Since you can bundle Coolstuff orders across many products, you can get pretty cheap shipping once you prorate it across a bunch of products.

Andy,

You're forgetting the Void Guard. That's at least equivalent to 4 hero decks.

Well I'm not entirely sold on whether the environments are mini expansions or being added into the OblivAeon box.   Also we have another mini expansion with the Void Guard Sentinels bringing us up to six decks at least.  

The Environments aren't mini expansions, they are the environments in the box.  But the Void Guard would be priced at least at 14.99 I would imagine (so 10 on CSI).

It was answered in the Q&A today. The two environment are being added to the OblivAeon box and will be the only two Environments of the expansion.

That's what I thought was the case with the environments. 

This comes up time and again: Kickstarters like this one, or MST3K, or anything made by an established miniatures company, which seem totally assured to reach some absurdly high result.  I mean, I (obviously) don't have access to >G's financial information, but given the scope of the project, I'd have bet on this Kickstarter doing at least twice as well as Shattered Timelines, and probably closer to three times as well.  Now, obviously, that $360-545K estimate also fell far short of reality, but it's closer to the current total than to Christopher's guesses.

It seems like there's this strong trend among KS creators to be very conservative in their estimates.  I don't know whether this out of fear of somehow "jynxing" the results, or just humility, or what - I would have expected more overly-ambitious guesses if anything, but that's overwhelmingly not what I see.

I don't really have a conclusion to this - it's just some thoughts I was musing on.  In any case, a big congratulations to the whole >G team!  Try not to get buried in the avalanche of success (and work) descending upon you.

So We Broke 5000 Backers!!!! Yeah!!!

They Have Raised more than double their Previous Most Funded Kickstarter!!!!

And we are on the path to Reaching 750K By Mondays Update!!!!

So at 5:06pm 2/12/2016 Where We Stand:

5047 Backers averaging $137.97 for a total of $696,316

So if we Stay Around the $138 Average

7247 Backers at $138 for total of $1,000,086

Need 2380 More Backers

5435 Backers at $138 for a total of $750,030

Need 568 more Backers

Pledge Level      Backers                    Total

$1.00                     127         $127.00

$39.00                   110         $4,290.00

$54.00                   521         $28,134.00

$69.00                   113         $7,797.00

$84.00                   100         $8,400.00

$99.00                   70           $6,930.00

$109.00                 1024       $111,616.00

$139.00                 2509       $348,751.00

$249.00                 172         $42,828.00

$299.00                 100         $29,900.00

$399.00                 197         $78,603.00

Total  $667,376.00

Difference of $28,940 For Shipping and Art Prints.

Forgot to change my Math

2200       Backers for 1 millon

388         Backers for $750K

The thing that Warms my heart is close to 200 people are getting all of the Multiverse. That an extra 80K GTG was not expecting at the start.

Well, sometimes the very thing one would expect to get funded very easily doesn't, e.g. the Cosmic Contest comic that was part of the Sentinels Story Wars campaign.  We've been asking for a comic for ages.  On the one hand, maybe it didn't fund because it was attached to another project.  But maybe it would have been even less viable on its own.  It's really had to say.  I imagine that, after one has had even just a single experience of a campaign they care about not getting funded, it probably teaches one to be conservative in one's hopes.

This feels sort of strange to me.  Given that they were thinking the kickstarter campaign would "maybe" reach 100k and at most 200k, that implies that they were planning on having NO environments in the expansion?

If they were expecting 100k then that would be Fort Adamant at 80k. Nexus of the Void is at 125k. So they planned for the likelihood of having at least one environment even with their conservative estimates. Both if their high end estimation was accurate.

Perhaps, but still strange to have as a Stretch Goal what many would consider a core part of the game.

The Rook City kickstarter released the expansion environments as stretch goals, although those were at 16k and 18k. Infernal Relics and Shattered Timelines did not, although Vengeance was the $150k stretch goal for Shattered Timelines. Wrath of the Cosmos and Villains of the Multiverse didn't have kickstarters, of course.

Looking at the old kickstarters, it's easy to see why they wouldn't expect much and how mind-blowing Oblivaeon's kickstarter is. Rook City reached $27,880. Infernal Relics reached $111,258, and Shattered Timelines reached $185,200.

I would argue that for this expansion especially new environments will probably be the most ancillary part of it, given that it will have a totally new encounter with a new way to play.  I would assume you use environment's in that gith but we don't know that for sure

The new game mode uses two environments at once.

VotM was original only supposed to have two environments and ended up at four due to how many preorders they got.  So it isn't a new thing.  

It also seems like an odd thing to worry about given that both environments are now guaranteed. Unless, I suppose the concern is why we're not getting two environments by default and these two being potentially additional?

2-4 backers away from 700k. 5,068 at $699,546

It's almost 700K now...

Yep, that's pretty much what I just said. 

And it's over $700k!

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That art print better be worth it. :)

$700K Hype!!!

Woot!

If we keep up the rate of today we should hit the 750K goal before Monday's update

All the 'Friday payroll' people came through for us! :D

Let's hope they manage to push us even closer to the 750K stretch goal!

The weekend is usually a slow down period so I will cautiously guess Tuesday night/Wed for 750K .  Either way, what it has already raised is amazing

I'm getting off the KS site either way - I'm getting in an argument with a guy claiming Chrono is a subpar damage dealer and that means it's time to go

Which I always find odd since KS doesn't charge anything until the end and has always worked that way.  

Backer average is now up to $138.

There are 200 backers for THE ENTIRE MULTIVERSE pledge level. I hope GTG enjoys loading pallets/containers at shipping time!

The pledge level is one of the only ways to get the game for some of us, unfortunately. I went for a scour of the stores in my city yesterday and they no longer carry the older expansions (and needless to say mini-expansions and acessories).

It is hard being in AU. Dodging demonic spiders and killer snakes AND contending with not being able to play SotM.

One person here explained his rationale for not pledging until he had the money in his hands. I don't remember where or who that was, though.

I also don’t pledge until I get the money in hand and the monthly budget plan is cleared and signed off. Just good rule-of-thumb I suppose.

Lots of people got monthly bills to pay, and they want to make sure they store away enough. Especially those with minimum wage jobs like me.

Good point on the Void Guard! And I missed that those environments aren't mini-expansions.

Anyway, where are we at? Guesses at retail and CSI price:

OblivAeon: $29.95

Two mini-expansion heroes: $7.90

Void guard: $14.95

Total: $52.80

CSI guessing at 2/3rds: $35.20

Assuming you get your shipping from CSI for free due to a larger order, that's less than the $39 pledge level, albeit not by much. Mind you, you miss out on all the promos going this route, so I'm not saying it's necessarily a good idea, just that the Kickstarter isn't necessarily the cheapest way to get the goods.

I think Christopher said they were aiming for a $40 retail price on Oblivaeon itself.

Yeah Oblivaeon wil retail for 3999, which would make the CSI price higher even before shipping

Huh. My bad. Thanks.

Heh. He is subpar, wait… subpar means amazing right?

Also, the MSRP for the existing mini-expansions appears to be $4.95, not $3.95.

In all honesty, when all is said and done, I'm happy with the price. GTG has made fantastic products, and if paying a little more means they can give us more? I'm happy they're giving us a chance to help them do it.

Me, too!

Yup! If I only had a brain. I took away the two hero decks instead of the two environment decks.

Chrono ranger gets shut down with a damage reduction of 1. He does have ways around it it is not east though. Other wise i love the 6 shooter time cowboy. (Can you shoot his six shooter more than 6 times in one turn?)

Yes, in Rook City.

My own personal math for the KS

We need $292,221 to reach 1 million.

We have 27 days

That means as long as we get about $11,000 a day (exact is $10,823) we'll reach the goal.

Today was our slowest day to date with $38,935. Even if we only get a 1/3 of that every day until the end of the Kickstarter we're good. And more than likely the last 3 days will be much better than that since people will be finishing up the group buys which probably will be quite large.

Mathematically correct, but I always think it's misleading to look at Kickstarters in terms of average per day, since the total gets SO concentrated in the first three and last two days.  Those five days will generally be something like half of the total amount.

So, don't panic if we drop below 11,000 for a few days, or even below 5,000.  Those last two days should hit at least 200,000 bucks by themselves.  I  am calling it - $1 million is foregone conclusion, and GTG may want to think about stretch goals for 1,250,000 and even 1.5 million.  My usual guideline of "final total is 3x the first three days" is probably optimistic here, but there's really no telling.

Displaced Armory to grab Jim's Hat.  Eye On The Prize four times.  Oh, let's say Sudden Contract (lots of One-Shots would work here), then Power.  Just like that - seven shots.  John Wayne eat your heart out.

Insert long and well-reasoned argument that Chrono-Ranger is a low A-tier hero here

And we might see $750k met before Sunday morning. ^^

Yeah, a linear model is not correct here. That’s why I was wondering about what the funding level was as a function of time, say, hourly. I bet the behavior we’ve seen so far looks like an exponential rise. Without actually fitting a model, I think that might put us with a final tally between $750k and $1M.

Of course, an exponential rise doesn’t account for any other behaviors towards the end of the funding period.

Had a look at Shattered Timeliens to get a steer on how the Kickstarter might go. After the initial spike, things are relatively constant from then on in, with weekends taking half as much per day as weekdays.

However, the scale difference is phenomenal. The inital day one for Timelines was $33k. By comparion, day 4 for this campaign was $38k, so i don't think expecting just over $10k a day (what we need to get to [Dr Evil] 1 million dollars [/Dr Evil]) is unreasonable. On KickTraq, today is already over $7k

Everyone knows this kickstarter is going over 2M$. My guess is 2.2M$

I think the reason for concern on reacing the $1M stretch goal is actually well placed. While I am confident we will make it, this campaign is very different from others that have this kind of start, and from many campaigns on KS in general.

The fanbase is already there, and most of those that have the game that want to expand have likely already hopped on KS and either pledged or intend to be reminded at the end of the run, the great majority being the former.

Other projects that make 1/2 their final pledge over the first 3 and last 2 days tend to have multiple add-ons (Arcadia Quest has so many...). Additionally, they are either entry level games, or you can get the core game in one of the pledge levels without a huge hit to your wallet. Here we only have The Entire Multiverse, which is a great thing to have, but not everyone can spend $400, so they will probably buy the core elsewhere and, if they like it, pick this up after the KS (unless they try the core soon!)

I fully believe that we can make the 1M, especially if we hit 750k by Monday, but I don't anticipate it soaring much higher than that. I think 1.25M would be pushing it at this rate, but I certainly hope they make as much as 2M for this glorious game :)

I competely agree. However, we've made $10,000 so far today and we're on day 5. Every bit over gives us leeway for a day when we don't make it that far. With the last two days giving us a big boost I'm not worried at all

There will not be any other Stretch goals per Christopher's 1st update:

 But if we end up with seventy bazillion dollars, we will still stop the stretch goals at the $1M point. That's all there is.

true dshields but I will throw this tidbit out there is there is stretch goals they could do with this kickstarter past a million that is just to improve the game but more cosmetic stuff. For example a strech goal could easily be at 1250000 Handelabra gets to hire someone to help them get the Sentinels of the multiverse the video game expansions done quicker so there is a higher possibilty of all the oblivAeon stuff coming out at the same time on both the video game and the physical game. Or another one could be instead of a cardboard box for the collectors edition we now get a Wooden Box that is high quality and wont break easily. Or another one could easily be GTG releases a mini setup for Sentinels RPG onto their website for people to try it out and get an idea what it is going to be about. Or another one that I will say I do like the idea of for the non american and canada backers is if you reach stretch goal of x, we will knock so much off shipping to europe and other places.

I am perfectly happy with the fact they dont want to create new content past the stretch goals posted since they are telling a story and dont want to muddle in that. Trust me there is a lot of things game wise I would still love to see for example a set of possible mission decks that could be used with any villian in the game. But I understand if it wont happen.

I love Kicktraq's trending data on day one of Kickstarters, it's like asking a little kid how much they think something costs.

"Oh wow,they made $400,00 the first day, how much do you think they will get in the end?"

"Thirteen million!"

"Well that seems a little high."

"Hmmm, ok, ten million."

725K.  Only 25K for the next stretch goal.   Seems highly plausible Christopher's Monday update will have to include what else has been unlocked.  

Chrono-Ranger is great, but he has to get going.  I'll take Expatriette over him any day.

I prefer heroes that show up early when the battle is tough than ones that mop up the villain after the heroes have turned the tables.

And yeah, we are going to hit 1 million.  No other stretch goals needed.

In case anybody is wondering, this is what the graph of dshields' updates looks like over time:

The raw data I scraped out of this thread is as follows:

I think there may be some time zone issues pushing the data points around by an hour, but still. Looks like we are probably going to level off around the $750-800k level...barring any rapid changes in behavior!

Is it just me, or does the base game cover on the picture of "The Entire Multiverse" pledge level have improved art on the front of it?

What's up with that?

Looking at patterns of other Kickstarters, my guess for this one is around 1.5 million.

For those worried. Consider this, most boardgame podcasts haven't yet had time to discuss the Kickstarter. Also both the BBG crowdfunding article and Tom Vassel's boardgame breakfast show haven't mentioned it yet either. So that's at least two or three major sources that people get news from that haven't mentioned the Kickstarter. Today was the first day I saw a banner ad on BGG as well and I go to that site at least twice a day (anecdotal, I know).

My point is that the word is still getting out. $75K looks to be a foregone conclusion before the weekend is out, and I am fairly certain we'll see significant bumps when the news sources I listed above mention the Kickstarter campaign. I believe $1 million will be attained.

Ah, I missed that - thank you!

Thinking about it, I am actually really pleased with that announcement.  Too many KIckstarters have fallen into the trap of a runaway success prompting them to announce more and more extravagant stretch goals, which ultimately cost too much and caused them a lot of trouble - anyone who remembers, say, the Ogre Kickstart debacle should be wellpla-esed that GTG have taken this lesson to heart and are proceeding with moderation.

(Unless those hypothetical non-existent goals would include a full Beacon deck, obviously.  All my logic flies out the window in that case.)

So we're up to $29,786 for today and the kickstarter is at $738,684. It looks like $750,000 is probably going to happen tomorrow.

I agree. I do like the idea mentioned earlier of cosmetic stretch goals, like “if we reach 1.5 mil, Christopher will do the name reading video wearing a rainbow hat.” Stuff that is easy, cheap, and valueless, but gives us something fun to strive for.

Would definitely like Christopher do the entire reading in-character as La Capitan!

The problem with Chrono Ranger are the high ammount of tutor cards he has (for Bountys and Equipment) and all the cantrips. Therefore nearly all of his games play out very much the same. Versus the Dreamer you get more creative but most of the times you do very very similar things. He does tons of damage but the gameplay gets stale fast. 

Is that necessary here?

Someone says they’re leaving the kickstarter discussion of Oblivaeon because it went on a tangent about the worth of Chrono Ranger. This spawns a tangent (in this discussion of Oblivaeon) about the worth of Chrono Ranger.

If you really want to continue discussing this I would suggest making a new thread.    

There was an old thread where the OP claimed that Chrono-ranger was the worst hero…

He can reopen that one then.

That particular thread…didn't end well…

Hit 740k.

Wow, was out of pocket yesterday, did not expect it to be that high when I checked back in.  Continues to really impress how well it's doing, (esepcially given the weekend is usually the time where funding basically stops).

Sorry for spawning the CR side conversation

I go to sleep for one night and it went up this high. I havn't preodered yet. Waiting till the money is in the bank before I do. Oh boy THis ship is sailing fast. What will we talk about after we reached all the goals

I hope more about the game mechanics or the new art done by Adam. 

We'll probably be too busy playtesting it to talk about it that much

I hope the stretch goals have more promos for the Dark Watch and other heroes with only 1 promo. Most of The Primed Wardens now have like 4. Would love to spread the love. 

You know, except for those of us who aren't Playtesters?

Has anything been said in whether or not we can pledge enough for two (or more) levels and get the extra stretch goals too? If not, I might have to dust off that other Kickstarter account and make a separate pledge. 

Not entirely certain I'm answering your question exactly but their are frequently group pledges where multiple people pay a single person and pledge  through their KS account to  save on shipping, multiple copies of the stretch goals are sent to that pledger (provided you tell >G about it).

In update 3 they say "No add On's" they are trying to streamline this kickstarter, so unless your doing a group buy outside the US NO add ons, so yes dust away.

Christopher Should be Unlocking the 750K Goal Tomarrow So close!!!!!

At 11:59am 2/14/2016 We stand At:

5380 Backers Averageing $138.4  For a total of $744,592

So for 1 Million We need 1867 More Backers

For 750K We need 55 more Backers!!!!

Pledge Level      Backers                                Total

$1.00                     136                         $136.00

$39.00                   115                         $4,485.00

$54.00                  556                        $30,024.00

$69.00                   125                         $8,625.00

$84.00                   107                         $8,988.00

$99.00                   71                           $7,029.00

$109.00                 1087                       $118,483.00

$139.00                 2668                       $370,852.00

$249.00                 184                        $45,816.00

$299.00                 100                         $29,900.00

$399.00                 227                         $90,573.00

Total      $714,911.00

Difference is $29,681 For Art Prints and Shipping.

To Reach 750K is 5435 Backers

So with a Previous Estimate 2 seconds a name

Christopher’s Video will be up to (900 Every Half- hour X 6) 5400 Names in 3 hours.

Like dshields says, this is allowed if and only if you are outside the US. (And I think they want you to e-mail them if you do it?)

So Backers have been Changeing thier pledges to bump us to 750K

2:44 2/14/16

$749,823 But # of Backers hasn't changed.

$177 Away, No Doupt we will reach it before The Update.

2:47 750K

Always makes me a little nervous when backers change their totals, because they may just be trying to get up to the Stretch number to see what it is, then pop it back down. I've seen it before. Hopefully this won't be the case, here.

Congrats, all! Only $250K more to go…

Woohoo!


By the time the update comes it should be several thousand clear of 750 so not really worried about that.  I have to say, I didn't expext this before Monday evening at the very earliest.  Pretty awesome!

Only 249k to apotheosis.

I'm not too worried about since we still have most of a month left before this ends and the pledge amounts today have been slowly going up.

Yup! Seems to be legit! Almost....toooo legit....too legit to quit....

That was me. And said money found its way into my hands so I pledged a few days ago. Can’t wait for the update to see what the 750k level unlocks

Yeah, lots of people wait for pay day, and lots of people wait for the end of the campaign (especially the last 48 hours, since you can ask KickStarter to send you a reminder e-Mail).

I'm still really interested to see how the playstyle is going to work. Sure there are going to be "several" villains, but they can only be played in this new playstyle (I assume). The last time GtG made a new way of playing, it didn't go over well until the NEXT expansion of that type...but now we only have one shot at this one! And TWO environments? I had often wondered, "Why bother putting the Dinosaur keyword on this Time Cataclysm card," but now, I suppose it makes more sense. Hope it doesn't muck up too much for our intrepid heroes.

Most of the people I heard liked Vengeance-style play even with just Vengeance.  I know I did.

I would like to hear more about this new gameplay concept, though - those are always exciting!

My gaming group did, too, but it actually seemed like you and I are the minority. There were a lot of complaints about the fiddliness of it all and a lot of tables never saw it out. Fortunately, VotM came along and rectified that. Maybe the newest stretch goal could add even more V-Style Villains…

I personally really enjoy the vengeance style, especially with Villains out now. However Vengeance games are usually way longer and require more bookkeeping than a regular game so it doesn't get as much play. 

How did it rectify things?  I've been holding off buying VotM because I didn't enjoy the Vengeance play.

The focus in testing and balancing the VotM villains was to have them focus a lot less on the effects that made Vengeance villains fiddly - namely things that interacted with each other villain deck.  The VotM decks are more contained within themselves (though can have some nasty combos with some cards in the other decks).  The other things is increasing the number of available decks by 200% increases the variability massively.  My main issue with the Vengeance format is that it was pretty much always the same fight. Now even 1 or 2 decks different completely changes the fight.

I'll freely admit I wasn't too pleased with Vengence, I mostly bought it for the heroes and then tried the style. I'm still not really sold on Venence style gameplay, but I'm trying to keep an open mind. I'm certain a great deal of how I feel about this is my playgroup (or lack thereof) as I play Sentinels in the flesh much less often than I want and so many of my friends are still easing into how the basics work. I'm not quite ready to spring Vengence on them. I almost didn't buy Villians (missed the preorder campaign, but did in fact preorder it. Got my first preorder promos here.) 

I guess you could put this in the unreasonable request thread, but I wish every Villian had a standard and Venence style deck because some of the Vengence ones are just so nifty. Vengence isn't all that hard to play, but it is daunting. My 2 cents.

All that being said I kinda fear change. I like my games to flow in a way I can "officiate" with some authority. As it stands everyone is looking to me to make things run smooth, I would hate to dissapoint. For that matter I think I've played against Warfang all of once. She looks great, but I need to make certain I can keep the game super smooth for the players I'm likely to have on hand. They're not simpletons by any means, but they just really don't feel a desire to spend time learning "how to play" a game when that time could be used on having fun. I really don't understand these guys at all. They play D&D, video games like Diablo, Airsoft and other group hobbies, but don't want to spend any downtime on the hobby. I upgrade a lot of thier airsoft gear for them, they ask me how to make a character that is good at X in an RPG and I give them options, and they don't ever bother to even look up potential builds for anything. They're cool people but their "geek" is greek to me.

I can't wait for more details about the playstyle comes out. I want to know more about the mission deck (decks?) and how environments interact. I've always thought there would be a way to play with 2 environments, Time Cataclysm and it's keywords just made it seem so obvious.

So Getting closer to and Should get an Update/Unlock Tomarrow!!!!!!

At 11:50pm 2/14/2016

5514 Backers for a total of $765,680 Average of $138.86

Need 7247 Backers Avg. of $138 for a Total of $1,000,086

If we get up to $139 Avg. It Drops to 7195 or 52 less Backers

Need 1735 More backers at $138 To get to 1 million!!!!

Avg $9760 Per day for 24 days To reach 1 million

Pledge Level      Backers                                Total

$1.00                     137                        $137.00

$39.00                  118                         $4,602.00

$54.00                   568                         $30,672.00

$69.00                  128                         $8,832.00

$84.00                   106                         $8,904.00

$99.00                  71                           $7,029.00

$109.00                 1115                      $121,535.00

$139.00                 2738                       $380,582.00

$249.00                 186                         $46,314.00

$299.00                 100                         $29,900.00

$399.00                 243                         $96,957.00

Total  $735,464.00

Difference of $30,131 for art Prints and Shipping

If we keep avg. $20K per day will reach 1 million in 12 days!!!

I understand this 100%. I am constantly making people play this game with me, and although they typically have a blast, I'm usually looked at as the master of all things Sentinels (which I am not, by any means). Always asking what they should do, and I'm like, "You're a super hero! You decide!" I don't want to feel like I am forcing different playstyles on them every other game. Not really sure how much play OblivAeon will see, but I'm definitely lapping up the 11 new Heroes!

Not to sound or be offensive to your playgroup, but it sounds like they're a bunch of wanna-be Mid-Maxers. I say "wanna-be" because normally mid-maxers at least put in the effort to cheese their characters on their own.

But in any case, have you tried using the Sentinels Sidekick app? It might help you out with keeping things straight.

You may need to put a leeeetle more practise into not being offensive, mate.

Min Maxers. And that's not a term to throw around lightly.

Oh, wow. I second this wholeheartedly.

Just sounds to me like they don't care to make characters.

Sounds to me like they've got used to being babied a bit. Maybe a little tough love is in order?

I know a group of friends where basically everything they do is organised by one couple. Gaming sessions are at their house, they feed everyone, they buy all the games, they decide what will be played, they teach the games, they organise the gaming vacation week they do every year. And everyone else in the group does exactly nothing but passively enjoy the advantages of that couple's work.

That's fine if everyone's happy with it, but it's often very stressful on the person who's taking the "parental" role. I mean helping someone out is one thing, but doing everything for them is another - of course they don't want to learn to do hard things for themselves because it's easier if someone else does it.

Me? I'd make it clear that I'm happy to help, but they have to work too and take responsibility for their own stuff. They are missing out on a lot of the fun!

I'm kinda glad to have a little side conversation while we wait for the next update. Thanks all. 

Yeah, it's more the babying thing than a minmax thing. I really wish they were a bit more active in their hobbies. They seem to have no problem binge watching tv shows, but taking the time to design their own character requires too much effort.  I can't tell if it's laziness or apathy, but there it is. 

Not knowing them personally, could it be that they think you are better at creating unique and cool characters than them? I know that I have a hard time choosing skills, and abilities, and I get some help with that. 

They also might prefer doing the "fan fiction" thing. Maybe they'd rather write stories with existing characters than do their own world building. There's less thinking to how to play the character that way. We all know who Legacy, Wraith and Expatriette are, so there's less work needed to put into how to play them. They can easily jump in.

Me, I prefer creating characters than building them. But that's just me.

So Some Fun Math

Kickstarter charges 5%

Their “Processing agent charges 3%-5%

So Right off the top GTG makes 1 million and has to pay 100K

So shipping has been Avg. Around 30K so lets bump that up to 50K with all the Group buys that are still being gathered.

$1,166,670 Needs to make

 $116,667 KS and Processing Fee’s

 $50,000 Shipping

 $1,000,003 GTG gets 1 million for product.

Update today! Reward predictions while we wait?

DefeatedDust and I think either Golden Age Freedom Five, 70s Dark Watch (based on Funky Fixer), or some Be the Gate heroes.

Some people are off on President's day,are we sure there will be an update today? (not trying to be a downer, just it may not be a sure thing )

I think the next milestone should be $813,042

More than all of GTG's previous kickstarters combined (Sentinels or otherwise)

Updated #3 at the end says the next update will be Monday,

Christopher might have a riot if he doesn't post today holiday or not. 

I'd be really surprised if it were more heroes at this point. Course void guard was a huge surprise too. I do think another dark watch and/or freedom six team is likely. However the jump between goals was larger this time. Does that mean it could be something a little bigger cost wise? 

I'm anticipating promos will be the bulk of it. Actually, would be cool if we received a promo for a certain villain deck that we see in the covers: The Ennead. They dont need anything fancy added to the Shrine, they could just have the Ennead members themselves be the promos (they arent oversized after all!) Would still prefer them as a hero, but truth be told 11 decks is already a TON.

Good Idea I will add that to my list, at $982,209 will be Tactics X3 

On the Thursday update, they promised an update today (Monday).

I'm guessing it will be Void Guard promos and something else. Hopefully another deck at least.

Can't wait for today's update!!!

I would like a few new Environments.

I have loved Sentinels since my brother in law instroduced me to it a few years back.  That said, I have never been this obsessed with a game since the kick starter came out.  I don't know what it is but I have been eating/sleeping/dreaming sentinels the last week.

Christopher's evil plan is working!

Void Guard promos seem likely. Also, this was said in the Q&A:

Mariofanaticxv: Are the 750k and 1M stretch goals as major as the 500k goal was? I can't speak for anyone else, but I certainly wasn't expecting FOUR new heroes.
GTGChristopher: @Mariofanaticxv Not quite as major, but there's a LOT coming.

So whatever is planned, it's big, but not as big as Void Guard (though to be fair, it would be pretty hard to top that).

If we keep going at this rate, I may change my mind about finishing just short of $1 million.

Sorry, I had more to say but the new update just came out...

this is not a usual Kickstarter, it is dropping off, but not a Great rate, we stay in the 20k range for a few more days, and we may make 1 mil very soon.

$499 Wow nice set, and That will really help us hit 1 million

Power Ranger Idealist!

And Ghost Rider Mainstay

I like the promos, more story on the Void Guard, and especially a Guise appearance. However, it does seems a bit underwhelming that 250K raised only resulted in four promos.

Note to GTG, leave Guise out of your R&D department. 

But nonetheless, nice variants! Can't wait to see what the 1 Mill goal is! 

There is something I didn't really get about the kickstarter. I tried reading the kickstarter page and this forum thread but couldn't find exact clarifications.

In the Add-On part they wrote that you get printed artwork by adding 1$. but also in the 249$ pledge you get "Art print set". Does that means that if you add 1$ you get the few new prints added by OblivAeon and by pledging 249$ gives you all of the artwork prints that came with previous pre-orders?

Also, the difference between the 139$ and 249$ pledge is the art print set and the canvas art print. Could we buy those two seperately after the kickstarter? and if so, are they supposed to cost 110$? On the 249$ pledge it says "20% off" does that means that the art prints and canvas supposed to cost over 110$?
 

Great variants! I was particularly taken by the change from Dr. Medico to Malpractice. It's interesting that these promos seem to be coming from AFTER the OblivAeon event. I think that's the first we've seen of that, except for Tactics.

The Canvas Art Print is certainly around that price range. Thats an expensive thing to print on canvas. It is unlikely they will have it past this kickstarter.

The 1 dollar add on gets you 3 art prints on nice paper. These art prints you can get at conventions

From the comments:

Wednesday's update this week will have some awesome things for all of you fine folks to download.

 

Friday's update will contain OblivAeon gameplay. I'll post Friday's update in the morning so I can answer questions about it during the Twitch stream at noon.

-Christopher

agreed was hoping for some upgrades to the box or something. I am fine with it because free is free, was just hoping for a bit more. One thing I will note is on Mainstay's variant description it said something about other villians who are using the OblivAeon event to act out. Wonder if this means the 1 million mark will give us a few villians who need a good beat down while using OblivAeon to cause mayham

Can you? The promos are certainly available at conventions, but are the art prints also available there? I just don't recall seeing any at GenCon last year, but I might have missed them.

I think that's just to justify continued fighting against villains in the time period shortly after the OblivAeon event. But a new villain mini-expansion at $1 million would be possible. (However, the box for that SG is large enough that it won't be just one new villain, if so.)

When it comes to the void guard, will the other character cards and the sentinel promos work for the individual hero decks? 

The promos for the void guard is great! Can't wait for the update on Friday. 

Thank you for your help. I'm seriously considering upgrading to the 249$ pledge

I still didn't understand one thing - whats the difference between the art that you get by adding 1$ and the art that you get with the 249$ pledge?

The conventions are not really relevant for me, I'm notlikely to be in any gaming convention.

I FINALLY GET MY GIANT ROBOT! 

I've just wanted a giant robot Hero and I got one with the idealist... kind of. Still! GIANT KICKASS ROBOTS

Well, that's one part of my theory that's true.

Well, they don't have incap sides, they have worringly low health totals, original Mainstay and Adamant Dr. Medico specifically affect the Sentinels and no one else, and we have no idea how well the powers will mesh with their new decks.  But other than that, I see no reason why not.  Of course, if you really wanted to you could use Young Legacy's promo to play Fanatic's deck and no one would stop you.

The art prints you get for a dollar are three enlarged pictures of card art; in the past they've been done on high quality photo paper at 8.5" x 11" (US Letter size). The 249 USD level art is huge compared to that- 18" x 24", and comes on canvas (if I had to guess, I'd say probalby the same material the Sentinel Tactics maps are printed on), and from my understanding is a unique image that won't be on any card.

I'm not 100% sure but I believe it just means you don't need to add $1 at that level to get the art prints.

Appoligies for what I said before. Sorry if I offended you.

I believe that Christopher said there would be special rules for doing it. I think during one of Adam's art sessions. 

ooooh I forgot about that… Yeah. Good point. Thanks. That makes sense. The low hp would be a terrible idea to begin with. Lol

From the pledge listing I think you get the art prints automatically at 249 (and 299)witbout having to add the dollar. That is my impression… And since I have all the prints from shattered timelines onward framed on my walls, I really want to make sure I get these too… (and if Adam wants to print me off a few from core, rook city, and I to complete the wall, I wouldn’t mind!)

The $249, $299, and $499 pledges have the Art print Set included.

Every OTHER pledges require an extra 1$ for the 8.5 x 11 Art Prints of card art.

I did this by searching for "Art print Set"

So, the differences between the 139$ pledge and the 249$ pledge are

- Art print Set (the 8.5" x 11")

- Canvas Art (18' x 24"). Apparently this is unique to KICKSTARTER. "All canvas prints will be signed by Adam Rebottaro and are only available at the upper Pledge Levels."

So if you want the Art print set, add $1.00 to your pledge.

It's all gravy, I didn't get offended but I know some people could. I'm thick skinned, especially over the internet. You coul call me personally all sorts of names and I wouldn't mind.

Posted this a while back, felt like it was time to update it.

Still 5 base heroes (Luminary, Harpy, Akash'Thriya, La Commadora, and Lifeline)

Still sitting at 6 stretch goal heroes (Stuntman, Benchmark, and the 4 Void Guard)

We've got 22 new variants, but also I'm going to try and math out all the variants coming with the complete variant pack and the foil pack.

The KS campaign says 61 variants were coming with the Complete Variant pack, but that might be an updated number…yep, using the Wiki that seems to be an updated number. So I'll also use the 104 for the foil cards.

We've gotten confirmation of no additional environment decks, so we just have the 2.

No new information on the mission deck or vilain decks, so I'll stick with my minimum estimate of 5 all together (assuming Aeon Men deck is using the Scion Aeon Master as it's main villain.)

So, a total of (5+6+2+5) 18 decks of cards with (61 normal variants+104 foil cards) 165 new hero cards. Along with the comic and box and whatever else I forgot. This is getting pretty hefty.

I’m a lucky one with a 299 so I’m good then, I hope! (except for the wife backlash… :p)

I'm tempted to bump my bledge up to the 249$ goal. But only if we desperately need it... or if i get bored. lonely.... DAMN IT! It's too good to give up!

Hey, isn't the Idealist making a rude gesture in Britain?

She's a teenager now.

sigh They grow up so fast.

Always texting away on her phone. Mad at her adoptive dads for no particular reason all the time. It's a tough time for all.

Isn't she, like, mentally 8 years younger than her physical body? That would make her like what, 9 years-11 years old?

You mean, aside from one of them flaking out on the family and going off on a Ghost Rider walkabout on his own?

I mean, I've moved out from my parents, and would be mad at one of them for doing that.  Oh, Sentinels future.  You so edgy.

One thing I did find interesting was that all of the variant Void Sentinels seem to describe their changes as very immediate reactions to the Void Shards.  So their "normal" versions JUST represent them during the actual fight against Chokepoint?  Or do they go edgy at first, and then overt ime come back more to their old selves (which is to say, the default Void Sentinel cards)?  I guess we won't know until we get the default bios.

So the foil includes all the new heroes and variants from this campaign as well? And if I get the foils, the foils will come sooner than everything else? I have to admit it is rather tempting....

Note that Mainstay is not one of The Idealist's adoptive fathers. Only member of The Sentinels that fits is Doctor Medico.

Not really - she "progressed quickly" after the initial memory wipe.  I think it would be safe to say that her personality matches her actual age fairly well at this point.

Yeah, Mainstay's more like a favorite uncle.

Ah, good catch.

My group always plays Nick and Jackson as being with each other, so I whilst I recall that only one of them is Idealist's dad in-continuity, I had misrecollected which of them that is.

Right. Doctor Medico and his partner Caleb are the ones who adopted The Idealist.

Oh shoot. I thought this whole time that Medico and Mainstay were the partners. Opps!

Nope, just college bros that have been best buds since they first met.

Oblivaeon only needs 10k a day to reach that final stretch goal!

You are a gentleman of unusual size and quality.

Your face is shaped like an oddly-shaped grape.

You would take an unusually long time to gut a cow.

Heh, got 'eem

Ouch, and I thought Meerkat was the nice one of our family.

You make insults like a dairy farmer!

Still going Strong!!!!!

If we keep averaging 27K a day we will reach 1 million is 7 ½ days

At 8:36pm 2/15/2016 We are at:

5694 Backers Totaling $792,342 For an Average of $139.15

$9,029 a Day for 23 days is all we need for 1 Million.

To Break all Previous KS Fundraising we need $813,042:

5850 Backers Averaging $139 Totals $813,150

That’s 156 More Backers That we need.

To Get to 1 million:

7195 Backers Averaging $139 Totals $1,000,105

That’s 1501 More Backers That we need for the Million.

Pledge Level      Backers                                Total

$1.00                     144                         $144.00

$39.00                   127                        $4,953.00

$54.00                   582                         $31,428.00

$69.00                   132                         $9,108.00

$84.00                   114                         $9,576.00

$99.00                   76                          $7,524.00

$109.00                 1147                      $125,023.00

$139.00                 2822                      $392,258.00

$249.00                 189                         $47,061.00

$299.00                 100                        $29,900.00

$399.00                 251                        $100,149.00

$499.00                 6                             $2,994.00

Total $760,118.00

Difference of $32,224 For Shipping and Art Prints.

I really like Kicktraq's data.

Look at the daily amounts for the past four days. Three of the four beat the complete total for the Rook City Kickstarter -- and the fourth only missed it by $105! That's less than 0.4%.

Seriously, folks. It's amazing and beautiful how much this game has grown in popularity and maturity. Wonderful stuff...

To think that we are approaching 2000% of the original goal in less than a week is phenominal. This has been an amazing campaign to watch by any stretch of the imagination.

By an Stretch Goal of the imagination!

This is an impressively amazing kickstarter. 

My favorite part is that the least amount we've raised was on an American National Holiday (I do not know if Valentines is celebrated on the same day in most of the rest of the world, so I thought I'd play it safe in my phrasing) and it is still almost 3/4ths of the original funding goal.

Our smallest amount raised is more than half what they were asking for in the beginning, and they weren't entirely sure we'd make it. Love proving people wrong in spectacular ways

So there was a group of us on G+ at the time when those bios were published, and we read them together all excited about getting new stuff.

I remember having a genuinely joyous moment of "MEDICO IS GAY!" It was actually beautiful. (Because representation.)

Of course that was swiftly followed by glee that the news would really annoy bigots (and at least one bigot in particular), which wasn't beautiful but sure was satisfying.

Interesting observations:

1. The lowerbound projections indicate $1.5mil.
2. The trending chart has not yet reached an asymptote.

Was that one bigot a particularly infamous former member of this forum who managed to get himself banned more than once?

799,210. 790 until 800k.

The Daily Data tab for the Shattered Timelines Kickstarter is really interesting. Can you spot the day that Vengeance was announced?

https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-shattered-timelines/#chart-daily

Yeah, it kind of stands out there.

All bigots looks the same to me.

That's fair.

I am not going to open this can of worms.

Edit: Hit 800k.

The number of comments at one point exceeded Day One comments!

Man, looking at Shattered Timelines Kicktraq makes me so much more excited about OblivAeon's campaign! Kicktraq is so cool.

Also, I think it had to be 11-16 when they announced Vengance, since that's a big spike in funds, without an associated spike in numbers of backers.

Edit: I also like how the last three days of Shattered Timelines made more money then the first three (First three days made 50,876; Last three made 55,825)…  Imagine if OblivAeon does the same… (probably not likely, but one can hope! Haha!)

Yes, it was 11-16. :)

So, playing around with the numbers, doing a "what if" scenario… This is absolutely not how things work, but it's fun to mess with the numbers either way.

ST made $50,876 in the first three days, and $55,825 in the last three days. That's an increase of 9.7276%.

OblivAeon made $665,755 in the first three days, that number would be an extra $730,517 on the final three days (rounded up) if it somehow had a similar increase.

Edit: so as to not double-post

And the next spike coincides with their update detailing a little bit more about Vengance on 11-19

( Linky! )

I fully expect something similar will happen when we start getting updates with details on the other stuff in the OblivAeon box. Like scions, other decks, how the environments will work in the new game mode, etc.

I'm starting to think we'll definitely be getting to $1million!

I've learned to be wary of the word bigot...  I've noticed recently that more and more often people will just label others as bigots because they ("they" being the person doing the labelling) don't agree with this other person or their opinion. Which is ridiculous because that is by very definition, bigotry.

Of course I know that this isn't what's happening here. I'm just saying, giving people labels isn't something I'm fond of doing, whether I agree with them or not. (Edit: especially when they aren't around to defend themselves)

(Edit#2: Totally wasn't intending this as calling anyone out... Only realized it might be taken the wrong way after I had already posted it. My original intent was to give my own anectdotal experience. If you want to talk more about it, PM me? This thread probably isn't the best place for such a discussion.)

So! How about that kickstarter?  Soooooo close to 2000%!

Edit: $6,500 per day and we'll hit 1 million, btw!

Sure, it's like calling someone a "hater" so you can dismiss all criticism. I'm very careful before I apply labels (and I'm not fond of it myself, but sometimes it fits). I was just enjoying the discomfort of people who can't cope with diversity. This likely makes me a bad person, but if so I'm a bad person in a good way.

But yeah, Kickstarter!

What I’m discovering is that no cares for Giant Robots! You’re all robo-ists!

I was honestly thinking we’d never make 100k, then I thought “imagine getting 400k! That’d be a hoot!”, " $750k? Pffft. Never happening " Now?

1M… No comment

This KS is totally going over 2M$. No problem.

Also, robots are AWESOME!!!

Oh man, I remember that. Two gays is apparently too many…

It's important to remember that they were token characters to draw money from the gay agenda or something.

It also made me laugh that he couldn't figure out how to play Parse, and thought she was way too weak to be functional.

Pshh.... Parse is awesome.... Now SETBACK... I still haven't gotten a handle on him... (aside from just drawing cards til you get looking up and surprising fortune... unless that's literally all there is to it?)

That's how I play…

xD

Playing Setback is all about how lucky you are with your draw.

I think we should demand GtG to create MORE ROBOTS.

At the risk of being in a minority, by the sounds of it, I also don't ever use Parse as I'v never had her do anything useful in my games and she seems remarkably lackluster.

I dont know what I am missing, but she jut stays in the box with Argent Adept and Nightmist as heroes that do nothing for me, fun-wise.

Stab me in the heart, why dont you - two of my three favorite chars you listed there (and Parse I enjoy as well)

Nothing personal, I assure you!

Edit: Nevermind! What was I thinking?

OH I know, one of the things I love about this game is that so many people can love it while having completely different favorites in who they play - it literally has something for everyone.  For example I really don't enjoy playing Visionary, Tempest is pretty boring to me and so is Wraith, but those final two are my daughter and wife's favorites to play respectively.

 I like playing all the heroes equally. I know, i'm awesome.

FTFY

Hey, if its not fun for you its not fun.

FWIW: Parse has deck manipulation that rivals Dark Visionary (it's flat out better in some cases), deals more overall damage than DVis while doing it, can easily get through DR, and all the while she brings to the table other powerful team utility like Critical Multiplier for example. I can make a very strong case that Parse has one of the top 3 strongest hero decks in the entire game and is an instant pick for me if I'm putting together an advanced mode team. 

FTFY

The only thing Parse doesn't have is any sort of damage mitigation or healing, so she relies on teammates or her deck manipulation to offset.  She can get focused down if there is anythign that targets the lowest hero consistently.  I find it's actually what keeps her from being totally OP

FTFY

I don't know what it is about her, but in all her time on my table she's always been the "I haven't really got much to do this turn" character.

I dont know if its really persitently unlucky card draw , but most of the heroes have had a Shining Moment or two that stand out in the memory, but never her.  She just sort of plinks away doing a some damage here and there and rearranges a few cards, but the way other characters do it just seem more impactful.

But as you say, fun is subjective! Some decks jut don't click with me, others do.  Argent Adept is a  looooot of work for any payoff and Nightmist always ends up either dead first or hiding in Mistform not contibuting.

To prove I'm not a total buzzkill, I do love the Sentinels and cant wait for the Void Guard iteration of them.  Super Sentai Rider Kick!  Go Go Robot Action!

:D

I LOVE AA, and NightMist is my wife's favorite–both are awesome if you can get stuff going.

But I'll also admit that though I like the idea of Parse, I've yet to find her useful.  I still try her out sometimes, because I have faith, but I am still waiting to figure out when she shines.

Scouting and manipulating the villain deck does enough 'damage' to the villain, IMO. Against certain villains, it prevents their best stuff from coming out (No Forced Deployments, Dark Heros, Galvanized, or any card that reveals the top H cards of the deck and puts these types of cards into play). Against others, it completely kills their turn (Hey Citizen Dawn, we'll let you play Citizen Spring, no problem! Omnitron, you can totally play that component that gives us an entire round to deal with instead of those blasted flechettes).

Irreucible damage in the right spot can totally turn the tide of the battle as well. Against Apostate, it means you can take out relics of your choosing, like that one that gives all other relics 2DR. Advanced Miss Information with her 2DR is usually annoying, but sometimes one turn of everyone doing irreducible damage to her is all you need to take her out.

She is also one of the few heroes that can destroy ongoings and environments as a power (Omnitron-X and Argent Adept being two other heroes that come to mind). That can save the heroes' collective bacon as well. 

If you want to deal large amounts of damage, then Parse isn't for you. The effect she has on the field isn't readily apparent, but in the right hands, the heroes will have a much easier time fighting the villain with her around.

FTFY

I can remember once shooting something for about 23 damage after I'd saved up Critical Multiplier stacks for a while and had deliberately done anything other than attack stuff till I could let loose the big hit. I find that's ap retty satisfying thing on Parse - get out all three copies of Critical Multiplier, then play Recompile as often as you can get it and just dump all the Critical Multiplier stacks on someone who can do other things besides hit something every turn, so they can one-shot the last half of the villain's hp away after a few turns or something :D.

The Adept can be effective with just two or three cards out, depending on which ones they are and on the current gameplay situation (ie what kind of abilitis would be useful right now). I had one game against awn where due to constantly having tuff broken I never got out more than two songs and an instrument at any one time, I don't think, yet we managed just fine and I think we won in the end as I kept giving people extra card plays and stuff. Alacritous Subdominant alone, for example, would make Unity very happy and you don't even need any instruments (assuming you're playing the base version of the Adept) :D. In other news, finding out somehere earlier in this thread (I think) a few days ago that the Adept is asexual I thought was pretty cool too - I think I like him even more now :D.

For those who prefer not to play certain characters because they can't really get a grasp on how to play them effectively (or can't really see what kind of use their deck can have), have you ever played in games with other people who do play those characters? It may help you see other ways of playing the character outside of the way you've been trying to play them and you may realise new tricks or methods to them that may make them more enjoyable. Off the top of my head, I think Fanatic and Setback are two that I'm not really a fan of playing too much. It might be because they have a lot of self-harmy stuff and not much by way of reliable healing (unlike, say, Nightmist with Master of Magic and the Starshield Necklace). My partner really likes Redeemer Fanatic, though, so she gets a lot of use during our games :).

That's a great description, dyeung87.  One of the things I love about Parse is how increibly thematic her deck is - she just does those subtle things that totally change the tide of the battle. (Like how Fixer just fixes porblems)

Plus Syntactic Analysis might be my favorite card in the game

Try and play her against the Chairman. When you remove every Prison Break from the equasion using Buffer Overlow/Extrasensory Awarness/Updated Intel, make short work of all the villain targets played due to the extra damage from Exploit Vulnerability, and allow your teamates to do crazy things with Syntactic Analysis/Critical Multiplier/Between the Lines, you will learn how truely terrifying her deck is. If she can GUT the Chairman, she can do the same thing to just about any other villain deck.

You have to play Parse with the same mindset you would play Visionary. She is a deck manipulation master, and frankly is much better at it (Visionary brings things like Twist and Mind Control however and DVis has manipulation build in at the base, and while those are much more situational, they are strong in their own right). Maybe doing that or playing that way doesn't seem "glorious" and I can see that being the case. But if you want to talk about the best way to "Win" the game, dictating the entire villain deck to the extent that Parse can strongly flirts with the edge of gamebreakingly powerful.

Good insights--I'm excited to try Parse again with these in mind.

And I totally agree that watching someone else play a deck can change things. I wasn't a big fan of AbZero at first, but seeing my friend play him made me realize how fun he could be. I like him a lot more now.

But, as stated above, play style has a lot to do with it. Which is one of the things I do really like about the game. My wife and I almost never overlap in which heroes we want to play, since we have such different preferences (except that I also prefer to get variety, so sometimes I appologive and take the ones I know are her favorites...)

An interesting bit of information, I rarely use Parse for her deck manipulation skills. I tend to go for her base power more so than any other power in her deck. Segmentation Fault probably being my second most used power for her. There are a few standard villains I actually like to use Deck Manipulation on every round; Citizen Dawn, Omnitron, and La Capitan are the only ones that come to mind. There are also some villains I rarely care to manipulate their deck; Baron Blade, The Matriarch, Plague Rat, Iron Legacy, Infinitor, Ambuscade, Chokepoint, and Progeny. All other villains I could go either way or only use want to use it up to a certain point, such as getting Miss Information's Clues out to get her to flip or seeing Grand Warlord Voss' ships get put to the bottom. As for Parse's deck manipulation, I don't like using it on Citizen Dawn, due to not wanting to get in a situation where I have to discard a Citizen.

Good advice! That makes a lot of sense.

Something fun to look at Compare the Daily from 

https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/gtgames/sentinel-tactics-the-flame-of-freedom/#chart-daily

To the daily of:

https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/gtgames/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-oblivaeon/#chart-daily

One is Baised on 10K a day, and our current is baised on 100K a day, but the Levels are simalar. so I hope we can keep following that trend.

Is it just me or has the funding speed picked up again? Maybe it was a weekend lull.

I think some of it is the new pledge level they added.

Not so much 6 the first day 2 today, the $399 option went up by 20 more backers and the $139 went up by 20-30.

the way we are going we will make another 20-30K today, that puts us at 1 million in 6 days.

I was talking about the $499 option, but I guess that only has 8 of the 5,800 backers anyway.

I know I was stateing that 6 +2 not much of a diffrence, its the $399 and $139 that has jumped

I upped the GB group buy by several hundred dollars which will have had an impact on the daily rate 

Can I just reiterate the wild fact that this kickstarter raised over $800K in just one week? Did anyone see this coming before the kickstarter happened?

We can only guess at the "Group Buys" as addon's at 12:49pm 2/16/2016

Our Average is at $139.47

Total $809,646

Total Per Pledge Level $775,184

Difference For Shipping and Art Prints and Group Buys $34,462

I certainly did not, but I'm delighted to be wrong again!

No Christopher thought we might make as much Tactics at the end of 30 days.

So I am wondering Paul commented on the Saturation of thier game, I am assumeing they have some kind of model or math etc...

With 270 people buying everything, if that blows thier figures up.

Plus just think I know Jodie is a Master Shipper, but putting together 300 orders of everything will probley take her a full day.

So My point is with all thier "expections" of where they thought they were, "Christopher just said in his interview thier KS campain prebuilt was 200K"

To where they think they are now. "Probley will break 1 Million." and have a very good problem of WOW we were all wrong with thier Bussiness Projections.

Still Rocking to 1 Million !!!!!

At 11:27pm 2/16/2016 we stand at:

5930 Backers For a total of $825,606 For an Average of $139.22

That surpasses All of their Previous Kickstarters Combined of $813,150

6475 Backers For a total of $900,025 Averaging $139 to reach 900K

7065 Backers For a total of $982,035 Averaging $139 To Triple the Tactics Kickstarter

7195 Backers For a total of $1,000,105 Averaging $139 For the 1 Million

That’s Total backers Needed at:

545 more Backers to reach 900K

1135 more Backers to reach Tactics X 3

1265 more Backers to reach 1 million

Pledge Level      Backers                                Total

$1.00                     148                         $148.00

$39.00                   140                         $5,460.00

$54.00                   613                         $33,102.00

$69.00                  136                         $9,384.00

$84.00                   124                         $10,416.00

$99.00                   82                           $8,118.00

$109.00                 1187                       $129,383.00

$139.00                 2929                       $407,131.00

$249.00                 193                        $48,057.00

$299.00                 100                         $29,900.00

$399.00                 263                         $104,937.00

$499.00                 11                           $5,489.00

Total       $791,525.00

That is a Difference of $34,081 For shipping, Art prints and Group Buys.

6 and ½ Days At 27k Will be 1 Million Dollars

Or $7927 A day for 22 Days Left to reach 1 million.

900 Names a Half-hour X 7 is 6300 Names Or 3 and 1/2 hous of Christopher Reading

X8 = 7200 or 4 hours of names

Also watch the 148 backers at $1.00 conservatively (lowerbound?) estimate that is another source of ~$6k if they end up increasing their pledge.

Was there any indication of an update today? I don’t recall seeing any, but I could have missed something.

It was stated we should be getting an update with things to download today. Not sure if it will have anything else or not.

Christopher said he would post updates Wednesday (today) and early Friday. I posted that earlier in the thread.

How dare anyone not have committed over 700 posts to memory?  For shame.

So we are getting download updates today? I missed out on past kickstarters. Are the downloads going to be art work or a sample rule book or what?

They didn't say what the download is supposed to be. Yay surprises!

We have no idea.

EDIT: Apparently no pants makes you post faster, who knew?

Well don't forget, Parse is pandering to several minority groups. How can she possibly be any good if she's not a neurotypical* white American male? eyeroll

*Loaded word I don't like using, but I can't find a better one right now. Apologies.

And Christopher is extremely busy today for other reasons, too, so it might be later before we get anything...

I wonder if by "download" he just means a dump of information and not an actual computer file. 

Hmm…"reasons," you say?

Moved all of it here to give it the treatment it deserves. 

Update updated. Wallpapers and avatars for KS.

Friday will be the actuall update on good things. Thats gonna be where the meat and taters are.

I hope it's steak and not chicken nuggets. 

Damn, suddenly I'm hungry for chicken nuggets.

The most important thing about this latest update is that we learned the Variant Stuntman doesn't have energy powers but does have cigar levitating powers.

EDIT: Wow >G. Why make avatars that need to be shrunk for your own forums?

Who wouldn't want those?

Magic cigars or oversized icons?

Originally just the magic cigars as there was no edit.  

Originally there was no edit because I was going to use Stuntman as my Avatar to show off what I was talking about, but the forum shrinks it down so you can't see the magic cigar.

But the avatars do look sweet full sized.

Thought I'd leave this here https://twitter.com/GtGAdam/status/700041145024294913?s=17

Er, what?

Also, that Bunker picture from Adam's twitter looks great.

saw that Adam's Art is getting better every day, I hope he keeps up his friday's Twitch's.

The more y'all say the more I think it's the guy I thought it was.

Also, how is neurotypical a loaded word?

Can't we just enjoy this game without injecting SJW bigotry into this?

Because the implication is that people on the autistic spectrum are abnormal, and many people aren't comfortable with that.

Can you explain what you mean by "SJW bigotry" please?

Ah, okay. Thanks for explaining.

Parse is totally my favorite character. If she pissed a guy off that much for such ridiculous reasons yay.

People who demand pandering. One of the great things about Sentinels is that it DOESN'T pander. You have Unity who's Jewish- but it doesn't feel like she's there just to be the token Jew; she just happens to be Jewish, there's more than that to her character. Similarly, Tachyon is a lesbian- but she's no there to be the token lesbian; rather, she just happens to be lesbian, and there's more to her character than that. Then there's Parse; if I felt like Parse was there to sell me the game as someone with autism, I would have probably stopped buying the game; but I never get that feeling- she's a character that happens to be autistic, and she's not there just for the purpose of trying to sell me the game. Actually, I'd go so far as to say that if I didn't bother to seek out the profiles and learn more about the characters, I probably wouldn't even know any of these things about them. It's not about representation, it's about writing characters, and that's how it should be- because no character can truly represent real people, and to insinuate they can is insulting to anyone that they're attempting to represent.

From what I've seen, SJWs generally seem to feel like the best thing a character can be is as far removed from the average as possible- but this generally just results in characters that are such one-dimensional stereotypes that they're boring to read about. And the whole purpose of SJWs seems to be to try and create division and hatred between two groups most of the time, especially amongst those that generally would get along just fine.

I thought Parse has Asperger's, but hey.

I think that discussing what is and isn't characteristics of "SJWs" is a bit off-topic.  However, I do agree that Sentinels feels inclusive without pandering.  Not that I think there's anything wrong with putting various different types of characters into any fictional setting in order to appeal or reach out to a specific demographic, but if the quality in question is the *only* feature of the character, then yes, it's going to fall flat.  As you say, MarioFanatic, being Jewish, or gay, or whatever, is in every case simply one aspect of their characters.  They are far from one-dimensional.

How is asking to see characters other than straight white cis males "demanding pandering"? Straight white cis males are hugely overrepresented in every genre. I don't see why people being happy that a character is a bit like them in a world where they are almost invisible in the media is in any way a bad thing.

And you say SWJ like that's a bad thing too. Having games that aren't all about straight white cis males isn't going to ruin gaming. On the contrary, we can tell more interesting stories with more diverse characters.

It's interesting to me that most of the people who use SWJ as a pejorative term criticise anyone asking for characters that represent them, while themselves getting terribly upset whenever a character isn't just like them.

She does; Asperger's is a type of autism. All Asperger's is autism, but not all autism is Asperger's. I'm just used to describing my own as "mild autism" that I generally don't specify that it's Asperger's unless it's to a doctor or the like. Sorry for the confusion.

Asperger syndrome is autism. The DSM-5 replaced autism, pervasive developmental disorder-not otherwise specified, and Asperger syndrome with a single diagnosis - autism spectrum disorder. Diagnostically speaking, what someone would be diagnosed with depended more on where they were diagnosed than it did on which profile they fit. Plus, a lot of people diagnosed with AS met the criteria for autism.

Sorry if that was a bit lecturey, I have a tendency to infodump.