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UNreasonable Requests for the Last Expansion

172 posts · 5120 views · started 2016-01-30 18:04 UTC
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The_Burning_Stickman
2016-01-30 18:04 UTC
#1

In light of this thread, let's have some fun.

I want it to come with a puppy named Legacy so I can call him Four-Legs.

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phantaskippy
2016-01-30 18:27 UTC
#2

I request that my copy be delivered by a singing pony carrying a signed and notarized apology for giving Fanatic a base power that doesn't deal damage.

I also request a villain whose super power is Cheez Whiz.  Because that is the true meaning of evil.

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Julia
2016-01-30 18:51 UTC
#3

I want all cards to be scratch 'n sniff.

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CodieH
2016-01-30 18:54 UTC
#4

I want promos for every character that say "you are now playing SkyScraper."

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skoticus
2016-01-30 19:12 UTC
#5

I'd really like to villain decks for all the heroes...Just, cause, it's fun to beat up friends and such.

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PeterCHayward
2016-01-30 19:46 UTC
#6

I would like 6 more promo cards for each hero, villain and environment.

That's right. Promo cards for environments. I wan 'em.

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Powerhound_2000
2016-01-30 19:47 UTC
#7

I want Guise and Absolute Zero to hand deliver this expansion to my house and play the game with me.  

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Trajector
2016-01-30 21:24 UTC
#8

I want a squishy plush Absolute Zero with mine.

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skoticus
2016-01-30 22:20 UTC
#9

That would be awesome

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grysqrl
2016-01-30 22:36 UTC
#10

Just don't make the mistake of playing against Plague Rat.

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Matchstickman
2016-01-30 22:54 UTC
#11

Scorpions. I want the box to come filled with them.

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Belle_Sorciere
2016-01-30 23:55 UTC
#12

I would like a DVD of a full-length big budget live action Sentinels film. No, wait, a trilogy. Yes, that. 

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Chaosmancer
2016-01-31 01:28 UTC
#13

The box is delivered with all 50 years worth of Sentinels Comics, perhaps two copies of each so some people can keep them in Mint Condition

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Benhimself
2016-01-31 01:51 UTC
#14

I want an official incap side for Cleverest Legacy.

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dorktron2000
2016-01-31 05:34 UTC
#15

I want my copy to come with a real Danny-Boy.

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McBehrer
2016-01-31 06:29 UTC
#16

I… Also, actually really want an official incap side for Cleverest Legacy. Could we at least have some effects, do we can play him? Please?

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grysqrl
2016-01-31 07:14 UTC
#17

Just make some up. Or don't get incapped.

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Belle_Sorciere
2016-01-31 08:03 UTC
#18

Spiff's solution is to just use Legacy's incap abilities.

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Benhimself
2016-01-31 08:34 UTC
#19



See, this wouldn't be a problem (my headcanon answer is -one hero may use a power - one hero may draw a card -reveal the top card of every deck), but I'm already tempted to custom-print out some copies and it'd be real nice to have artwork on both sides.

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Killswitch
2016-01-31 09:53 UTC
#20

Wait, I thought it was going to be an actial promo? So when we do get to kickstart the final set, we’ll get Clever Legacy?

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Belle_Sorciere
2016-01-31 10:13 UTC
#21

It's not going to be an actual promo.

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Ronway
2016-01-31 13:09 UTC
#22

I want the Sentinels of the Multiverse: The Cook Book. It should contain the recipes of all the character's favorite recipes.

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Pydro
2016-01-31 13:19 UTC
#23

It should contain how to cook Sentinel characters.

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Silverleaf
2016-01-31 13:20 UTC
#24

I want new art of the Cursed Acolyte wearing pants.

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speedyolrac
2016-01-31 13:41 UTC
#25

Christopher did mentioned it. And another said they might sting you in morse code to reviel the final final clue. Scorpions should also be a core mechanic of the last set.

I really want that box to really hold all the SOTM cards sleeved. Sleeving takes up 3/4 more space so I have no clue how they are going to acomidate that much variances.BUt i do hope they pull it off. Now what to do till we get it next year.

And Ronway should wear pants while posing for Cursed Acolyte. Very unprofessional.

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Silverleaf
2016-01-31 14:04 UTC
#26

I want two different boxes - one for sleeved cards, one for non-sleeved. I'm sick of having pesky extra space in my boxes because you weirdos need room for your obsessive little fetish. I have no idea why publishers pander to you as much as they do. :P

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The_Burning_Stickman
2016-01-31 14:17 UTC
#27

So, Gloomweaver edition?

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speedyolrac
2016-01-31 14:24 UTC
#28

Agree with The Silverest of Leaves.

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skoticus
2016-01-31 14:30 UTC
#29

Also agree! Though, with all the extra space, I do plan on putting my fan-made stuff in there. And, of course, I'm assuming there will then be space (and hopefully smart space!) for the tokens and game-markers.

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bobbertoriley
2016-01-31 14:30 UTC
#30

I'm trying to figure out how this request is unreasonable…

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Powerhound_2000
2016-01-31 14:32 UTC
#31

Christopher has said in the Q&A from Friday and in the announcement post there will be a box that will hold everything sleeved.  Now there might be some sleeves that don't work but he said most sleeves should work. 

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Theta_Sigma
2016-01-31 14:44 UTC
#32

 

Yes! And I want him to be sized so that he can ride Mr Chomps!

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morph147
2016-01-31 15:09 UTC
#33

I want the box to come with all the sleeves I need to sleeve the cards.

 

also Christopher flies to every person who backs the Kickstarter and plays a game of sentinels with them

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Trajector
2016-01-31 16:11 UTC
#34

I am gonna engineer that game to involve Friendly Fire + Jack Handle.

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Matchstickman
2016-01-31 18:47 UTC
#35

You know, I think I want Sentinels' Sleeves now after reading that sleeve/box suggestion.

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morph147
2016-01-31 19:58 UTC
#36

Second. But how many sleeves would that be? Upwards of 2500 right?

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Belle_Sorciere
2016-01-31 21:45 UTC
#37

Hey, if Werewolf: The Apocalypse could have a cookbook…

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Catdrake
2016-01-31 22:04 UTC
#38

A version made of solid metal or wood so it would be dropped to great effect and noise onto the tabletop when the game is brought out.

A hero deck for every villain that's not canonically dead or otherwise utterly unavailable (Iron legacy, etc)

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MarioFanaticXV
2016-01-31 22:14 UTC
#39

I want every copy to come with a hundred dollar bill that has Ben Franklin's face cut out, and replaced with Guise dressed as Mr. Franklin. And there will also be an image of Legacy scolding him.

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Bunston
2016-02-01 00:06 UTC
#40

I would like the box to be indestructible as well, just in case I drop it into a puddle or a black hole.

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Pydro
2016-02-01 00:07 UTC
#41

I would like the box to also be a dice tower you can use in Tactics.

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Matchstickman
2016-02-01 00:32 UTC
#42

I would like a box that acts as a teleporter to other boxes, for those days when I can't get enough people in my local area to make a game and I can just shout into the box and one of you other box owners can step through to play.

 

Also a Mini Christopher in every box to recite rulings when we need them.

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PeterCHayward
2016-02-01 00:38 UTC
#43

 I would like a box that acts as a teleporter to other boxes, for those days when I can't get enough people in my local area to make a game and I can just shout into the box and one of you other box owners can step through to play.

 That, uh, sort of exists. :P

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Ronway
2016-02-01 01:31 UTC
#44

I want two new promos for every hero. One that is drawn by Christopher and the other as Mechanical Golems.

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phantaskippy
2016-02-01 02:11 UTC
#45

I want Christopher to use my custom character, Mittens, the very good kitty in the final expansion.

I want The game to come with every card sleeved in opaque sleeves that were custom printed to look exactly like every card in the game.

I want an environment deck that is Thiago's 12th birthday party.

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SirGropes
2016-02-01 07:52 UTC
#46

i want an official disney licensed version so i can play Simba, Genie, and Mulan against a villian team of Ursula, Hades, and the Evil Queen

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TheSoundOfTrees
2016-02-01 12:32 UTC
#47

I want Maia's postal adress, so I can send her love fan letters like the old fashioned guy I am.

And AZ plush toy should be a thing. Thinking about it - there should be plush toys of all the heroes. As merchandise to sell after the Sentinels of the Multiverse movie gets out.

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Julia
2016-02-01 12:33 UTC
#48

Talking Guise Pez Dispenser.

"You sure you wanna eat that? It came from my neck."

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Pydro
2016-02-01 12:34 UTC
#49

I want the inside lid cover of the box to include a picture of every hero. This way I can throw H dice into it to randomize the match.

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Trajector
2016-02-01 12:47 UTC
#50

Actually, some kind of feature to help randomly pick scenarios would be a terrific idea!

Since we’re being unreasonable, though, I want that feature to be a single giant H-sided die (where H is the total number of heroes, of course).

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tarsonas
2016-02-01 13:55 UTC
#51

I want a deck box for every deck that also fits in the case. 

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Pydro
2016-02-01 13:58 UTC
#52

I want a deck box for the deck boxes.

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Matchstickman
2016-02-01 14:41 UTC
#53

I want a sleeve for my collecter's edition box

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dpt
2016-02-01 15:28 UTC
#54

According to the Q&A, there are 5 heroes in the OblivAeon expansion. That makes 28 in all, which is a pretty awkward number for a die. There is a nice 30-sided design for a die, however.

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Silverleaf
2016-02-01 15:36 UTC
#55

I second the want for plushies of all characters.

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Pydro
2016-02-01 15:38 UTC
#56

I want them to include seeds that when planted will form the shape and color of the characters. I want to grow my own heroes!

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Silverleaf
2016-02-01 15:42 UTC
#57

I already have pea versions of many of the heroes. True statement. I mean they don't match colours or shapes, but they have SotM hero names.

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BlueHairedMeerkat
2016-02-01 15:53 UTC
#58

Well then I want two mini-expansion heroes.

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morph147
2016-02-01 17:57 UTC
#59

will agree with dpt. Here is to hoping for lots of mini-expansions

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jagarciao
2016-02-01 18:06 UTC
#60

Wouldn't that make it 31 heroes all?

EE = 10

RC = 2

IR = 2

ST = 2

V = 5

WC = 2

Mini-Exp = 3

O =5

 

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Pydro
2016-02-01 18:06 UTC
#61

I think it should come with a flip book so we can see a hero moving.

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jagarciao
2016-02-01 18:09 UTC
#62

I think the storage solution should be a shelf and in some alternate dimension... if they can make a maximum security prison to hold super criminals, I am sure they can make some self-storage spaces work...

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Trajector
2016-02-01 18:23 UTC
#63

Well then, I want them to invent the 31-sided die and use THAT! We are unreasonable in this thread, after all.

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Ronway
2016-02-01 18:31 UTC
#64

I would rather them create a die that has every match possibility on it, that way I can roll it and have everything determined with just a single roll.

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VisforYoshi
2016-02-01 18:56 UTC
#65

Nah. We need to add some sides for the promos as well.

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dpt
2016-02-01 19:12 UTC
#66

Oops, you're right. I was going off of  http://sentinelsofthemultiverse.com/multiverse, which is missing Guise and Wrath of the Cosmos.

31 is an incredibly awkward number of faces. You could do a 32-sided die modeled on a similar pattern to the 10-sided die or a slight variant, but it would be pretty unwieldy. If you don't want a die like that, the next possibility is 40 sides. I'm not sure whether or not 40 sides is possible yet, but then after that the next possibility for a completely fair die  would be 48 sides.

(This is based on classifying the possible symmetries. Fun with math!)

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dpt
2016-02-01 19:13 UTC
#67

That might make it better! How many promos are there so far? Of course we don't know how many new ones are coming with OblivAeon.

EDIT: Oops, that won't work. There are purported to be at least one promo per hero, which would put us at 62 or more heroes. Once you get over 60 sides, the next reasonable completely fair die has 120 sides, which just isn't going to work that well.

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PeterCHayward
2016-02-01 19:15 UTC
#68

999.

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arenson9
2016-02-01 19:40 UTC
#69

2,407 plus whatever comes in the final expansion and any additional promos and mini-expansions.

 

  • EE - 578 (41x10 + 27x4 + 15x4 = 410 + 108 + 60)
  • RC - 222 (41x2 + 27x4 + 2/Operative + 15x2 = 82 + 108 +2 + 30)
  • IR - 228 (41x2 + 27x4 + 8/Ennead + 15x2 = 82 + 108 +8 + 30)
  • ST - 220 (41x2 + 27x4 + 15x2 = 82 + 108 + 30) 
  • Vengeance - 339 (41x5 + 4/Sentinels + 20x5 + 15x2 = 205 +4 + 100 + 30)
  • WC - 224 (41x2 + 2/Sky-Scraper, 27x4 + 2/Kaargra + 15x2 = 82 +2 + 108 +2 + 30)
  • Villains - 260 (20x10 + 15x4 = 200 + 60)
  • Mini-expansions - 276 (41x3 + 27x4 + 15x3 = 123 + 108 + 45)
  • Promo Heroes - 37 (YL-1, RCW-1, Ra-1, Fanatic-1, DV-1, EH-1, F6-6, DWatch-4,  GIL/B-2, SST-1, Prime Wardens-5, Knyfe-1, Kvothe-1, TNat-3, Santa Guise-1, SI-1, HN-1, CR-1, Se-4)
  • Promo Villains - 8 (Omni, BB, Spite, Gloom, 2 each)
 
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VisforYoshi
2016-02-01 19:53 UTC
#70

I want five virtual reality headsets with programs for each hero, villain and environment and appropriate responses for cards that enter play. That way we can actually be that hero, and experience what they are. (Just try not to freak out too much if you're about to be hit by the virtual monorail)

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Ameena
2016-02-02 14:58 UTC
#71

Never mind the monorail, what about the Mongolian Death Worm or the Claustrophobic Delusion :O.

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morph147
2016-02-02 16:28 UTC
#72

eh good sleeves are 3 dollars for 50 so right now would need about 48 packs. Don't have roughly 150 dollars lying around for that. Guess I will be getting penny sleeves

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jagarciao
2016-02-02 16:33 UTC
#73

I just dip my cards in sealer varnish and hang dry them for a day... good for life. 

 

 

 

EDIT: Disclaimer: The statement above is a joke and should not be tried at home. I assume no responsibility for cards that are damaged in this manner. 

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Pydro
2016-02-02 16:38 UTC
#74

So don't hang them to dry?

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Bunston
2016-02-02 18:20 UTC
#75

I'd like the option to include the four Villains environments.

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Pydro
2016-02-02 18:25 UTC
#76

I want the box to be a platform bot so I don’t have to carry it.

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jajd2c
2016-02-02 18:29 UTC
#77

Maybe just have the promo "everything in one" box come with a Sentinels-themed back brace & weight belt?

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Rabit
2016-02-02 18:51 UTC
#78

I think the box should include a serum that will provide a random super-power.

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Julia
2016-02-02 19:06 UTC
#79

I want the entire game to be made completly out of wood as a collector's edition. They did it for Catan, and I don't think we deserve any less.

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Killswitch
2016-02-02 20:09 UTC
#80

Taking this a step further, I want the box to be a mobile defense platform.

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Blossercubbles
2016-02-02 23:00 UTC
#81

 

Seconded on the super powers! They could be as innocuous as, say, talking to squirrels and everyone would be happy!

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grysqrl
2016-02-02 23:05 UTC
#82

Why do you need super powers to talk to squirrels?

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Silverleaf
2016-02-02 23:08 UTC
#83

I've talked to a squiggle lots of times.

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Pydro
2016-02-02 23:12 UTC
#84

Serum for superpowers? That isn’t a great backstory. Almost as bad as “mutant.”

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grysqrl
2016-02-02 23:15 UTC
#85

Thousands of radioactive scorpions that shoot gamma rays out of their eyes?

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Belle_Sorciere
2016-02-02 23:16 UTC
#86

Mutant isn't bad. 

Inhuman is better, though.

Serum isn't bad either, but it could be a lot better.

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UXM266
2016-02-03 06:21 UTC
#87

I want it to contain Kate Beckinsale. Just for me.

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morph147
2016-02-03 14:22 UTC
#88

this is actually a good one that should happen. I will second it

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Pydro
2016-02-03 21:32 UTC
#89

I hope they start taking videos and pics and create a “making of” documentary.

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Pydro
2016-02-05 12:52 UTC
#90

I would like a complete set of SotM Trading cards.

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saykhia
2016-02-08 05:47 UTC
#91

I want the new Ra promo Super Ra God Super Ra which is the power level of Super Ra beyond the God form of Super Ra.

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Senf
2016-02-08 23:58 UTC
#92

 

Well with the current stuff that is out not counting the next expansion, and not counting promo cards for heros as that makes it much more complicated but counting every combination of group villians as a different villian option you would need a die with  4,389,236,280 sides on it. 

I tried to do the math for with hero promo cards but figuring in the fact that you can't have the same hero in 2 or 3 times using different promos it is far more complicated to do, but going to be over 150 billion combinations.

If you don't want all the different group villian combos as different options and not counting promo cards it drops down to 65 million.  Still going to be a very big die.  :)

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bobbertoriley
2016-02-09 01:57 UTC
#93

I want the Kickstarter to launch right now.

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BlueHairedMeerkat
2016-02-09 17:58 UTC
#94

Hmmm… someone remind me to do this maths once we know exactly what we're getting in Oblivaeon :smiley:

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DrZeeZee
2016-02-10 01:56 UTC
#95

*Commenter's Note: I'm aware the thread title is "UNreasonable requests..." however the following are actually UNreasonble demands.  I refrained from beginning a separate thread*

1.  All decks arrive pre-shuffled

2.  GTG licenses classic works of art for new 'alternate art' decks.  Just imagine Francisco Goya's 'Saturn Devouring His Son' as the art for Bugbear's 'Unpredictable Powers' card, or the works of Salvador Dali repurposed in the Time Cataclysm deck.

3.  To match the Oversized Villain character cards... Complete Oversized decks!!! (see demand 1)

4.  Fully weatherproof oversized oversized decks of all heroes, villains and environments.  Mom says go play outside?  No problem.  These 2' x 4'  oversized oversized Sentinels decks are intended for outdoor and playground usage!  

5.  Let's get meta baby!  One Mega oversized OblivAeon Villain character card large enough to block out the sun Mr. Burns style!  The end is nigh!

6.  Kickstarter ends March 11...product ships that evening!

 

I also unreasonably demand that one day you guys get the spark to keep on with this game, albeit in a unified Multiverse (a, hmmm, Uni-verse, if you will).  Thanks so much for this amazing game.  Excelsior!

 

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Phantom5613
2016-02-10 08:33 UTC
#96

I want a fully functioning, remote controled, action figure sized Bunker armor to come in my box; and the box itself to be able to fold out into a life-sized Bunker helmet that I can use to mentally control the mini-Bunker.

...Or a bagel. With butter.

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Belle_Sorciere
2016-02-10 08:47 UTC
#97

I want the box to hold another smaller yet otherwise identical box, which will itself hold another smaller yet otherwise identical box, which will itself etc.

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Alex
2016-02-10 09:45 UTC
#98

Your game looks great, I just have a few minor changes:

  • Could you change all the text on every set, except mine, to Comic Sans? It is a comic so there is nothing wrong with this, I think it will make the game more friendly
  • I think you could save a lot of money if you stopped bothering with all the fiddly dividers and cardboard boxes and just sent people all 2000+ cards mixed together with the tokens, etc. in a burlap sack
  • I'm not sure if this will appeal to snake people, try putting hashtags everywhere, give every character a twitter
  • I bet this game would sell better if you included a Wii remote in the packaging
  • The cards provided work well with each other, but are not legal in Magic: The Gathering tornaments. Could you fix this, I promised my daughter
  • You're game designers, right? Why do we need to waste all this time with "playtesting," just work out how it will be ahead of time
  • I spilled coffee on your card proofs, Photoshop out the stains
  • That one stain added character to the card, Photoshop it back in
  • I have this great product placement deal with Taco Bell, can you make "Quesalupa (TM) damage" an official damage type?
  • I cut the roof of my mouth using the card as a toothpick, please include relevant warning label along with complementary toothpicks
  • Make the manual be pure red text on a solid blue background, it will make it stand out
  • There's too many female characters, find some photographs of male actors and Photoshop their faces on some of the women, but make it still look normal
  • New expansion idea: Baby Sentinels of the Multiverse, see attached Powerpoint, I just learned about animated slide transitions and I'm pretty proud of this
  • Include an option for faxing the cards to people, about how much cardstock will we need to give our machine? 
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aawood
2016-02-10 12:47 UTC
#99

RIght.

Let H = Number of hero possibilities (including variants, of course!)

Let E = Number of environments

Let V = Number of villains (standard playstyle)

Let W = Number of villains (Vengeance playstyle)

With that in mind, the number of possibilities (including 3, 4 and 5 hero teams) would be…

E * (( (3H-3) * (V + 3W-3)) + ( (4H-6) * (V + 4W-6))  + ( (5H-10) * (V + 5W-10)))

If someone wants to give me numbers, I'll plug them in and we'll see how many sides that die has… Or someone else can go for it, of course! :slight_smile:

 

 

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PeterCHayward
2016-02-10 13:17 UTC
#100

Doesn't that have the issue of rolling games with multiple copies of the same hero? (Newest + Greatest Legacy, for example)

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dpt
2016-02-10 14:14 UTC
#101

I want the box to hold another larger yet otherwise identical box, which will itself hold another larger yet otherwise identical box, which will itself etc.

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BlueHairedMeerkat
2016-02-10 14:40 UTC
#102

It surely does! The maths is a bit of a bitch to do, but also fun!

https://greaterthangames.com/forum/topic/statistics-of-the-multiverse-6779

(Note: this is post-VotM, but pre-Termi-Nation; I intend to redo it when the OblivAeon dust settles for Everything Ever.)

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MrLeRobot
2016-02-10 15:15 UTC
#103

You also have to consider turn order, right? :)

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EvanDan55
2016-02-10 15:33 UTC
#104

A while back during the Shattered Timelines kickstarter, Paul said that if we broke around $200K (more than any of the kickstarters had made at the time), they would make 363 more Wraith promos, giving us a Wraith promo for every day of the year.

We're over double $200K. We want our Wraiths.

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Paul
2016-02-10 15:50 UTC
#105

Due to inflation, we've moved that to the $5 million stretch goal. Shhhhhh.

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pwatson1974
2016-02-10 15:56 UTC
#106

Goal locked. Stay on target, everyone.

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VisforYoshi
2016-02-10 16:00 UTC
#107

The staff at GtG (and maybe handelabra)  should perform Sentinels of the Multiverse: A Musical, in celebration of the final expansion. Written and directed by them

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Trajector
2016-02-10 16:41 UTC
#108

Lyrics to be provided by the $1 pledge level.

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Chaosmancer
2016-02-10 17:10 UTC
#109

Wait... 5million isn't that the Sentinels of the Multiverse: The Card Game: The Video Game: The Card Game? You wouldn't hold out on us for that one would you?

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VisforYoshi
2016-02-10 17:18 UTC
#110

I'm very amused by the thought of them aranging all the names in a way so that they rhyme. And Christopher having a dance routine set up with it.

 

On an unrelated note, I was promised scorpions in my OblivAeon shipment. I'm hoping I get those

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bobbertoriley
2016-02-10 17:30 UTC
#111

I want to see them do a blatant ripoff of the John Hodgman/Jonathan Coulton crossover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld9aV-tjH0c

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aawood
2016-02-10 22:50 UTC
#112

That's fine, we'll just demand the die comes with an extra deck for each variant! :slight_smile:

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Ronway
2016-02-10 22:54 UTC
#113

Whoa! This is my unreasonable request. I want to keep the gameplay official, so the die must only have all legal combinations.

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Dandolo
2016-02-10 23:13 UTC
#114

Not to worry we can just ask for both :).

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Belle_Sorciere
2016-02-10 23:26 UTC
#115

You win!

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Alex
2016-02-11 00:21 UTC
#116

I want villain cards that burst into flames when you defeat the villain. It would make hard-won victories so satisfying!

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phantaskippy
2016-02-11 00:29 UTC
#117

I want a movie based on a Board game based on the video game based on the card game.

Also the Wraith promo where she has a pony.  That was a great one.

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dshields
2016-02-11 00:52 UTC
#118

I want All the Villain cards to say evil things at random. And Paul's Voice over giveing a Play by play.

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Matchstickman
2016-02-11 02:55 UTC
#119

I want the game to teleport into my hands as soon as the kickstarter is over.

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Benhimself
2016-02-11 03:06 UTC
#120

I want a delivery of the promises made in posts #36 and #37 of this thread!

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Matchstickman
2016-02-11 12:07 UTC
#121

Er… sorry but they are. Back to your calculating engine!

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aawood
2016-02-11 12:53 UTC
#122

…They are. Gahh. Dammit Chris, stick to your guns!

Let's think about this. Currently, when picking a team, we start off with every possibility, then for each hero chosen we reduce the possibilities for the next choice by 1 + (the average number of promos per hero). That doesn't work here, because rather than just having one hero and a bunch of promos, the promos can mix and match. It's a different interaction between heroes and promos. So, short of calculating (for each team size) the chance of someone picking The Sentinels team, and then using a different calculation accordingly, we're stuck.

Except that's thinking of things literally, not mathematically. What we actually have is a large set of options (of every possible variant of every hero) which are bundled into smaller groups (of each hero + their promos, generally), where choosing any option removes the whole group from the option space. The same still applies with The Sentinels; there are so many possible options in the "Sentinels Team" group, and once you choose one you remove the group. We're already averaging out the size of each option group, so it's not really a problem if the size of any one group is different from the others (even drastically), as long as we're still constraining these choices to one group of a known number of options.

4 members, each with a variant choice, makes for 16 possible Sentinels Teams. For our purposes, this is no different from a single Hero with 15 variant cards. So all I need to do is revise my "for the purposes of" statement to:

  • For the purposes of this, The Sentinels team counts as 1 hero with 15 variants (16 possible team makeups).

And I think we're done? Maybe? Fingers crossed? :smiley:

(A s a side note, someone mentioned that they'd want this to also include each team order possible; this actually already does that! This applies to Vengeance-style villain orders too, which is nice.)

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Trajector
2016-02-11 14:09 UTC
#123

I want the Ultimate Collector’s Case to come with built-in hoverboard.

Not the stupid ones, the Back to the Future ones.

…because that case, when full, is going to need it.

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Pydro
2016-02-11 14:11 UTC
#124

That's why I want the case to be a platform bot.

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eggroll20xd6
2016-02-11 16:23 UTC
#125

I want a 100 volume omnibus that contains:

1. A novelization of the entire Sentinels of the Multiverse's lives prior to the beginning of the Sentinels Comic line written by Christopher.

2. Every comic in Sentinels Comics, Mystery Comics, Justice Comics, etc written and illustrated by Christopher and Adam leading up to and including the conclusion of Sentinels of the Multiverse, but gives us a preview to the launch of the RPG or Sentinel Tactics. This must also include quotes from every comic that are listed on the cards in context.

3. Design notes, drawings, and personal histories of each hero, villain, and environment from Christopher and Adam

4. "Creating a Multiverse: A Retrospective of Establishing a Company" by Paul with how they created GtG recalling the growing pains and saying goodbye to their first creation.

5. A Lego/Plushie SotM creation guide. 

 

All that should be do able in 11 months I think.

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dshields
2016-02-11 16:32 UTC
#126

 

LMAOROTF Best one yet

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eggroll20xd6
2016-02-11 16:50 UTC
#127

I figured I'd shoot for the moon in my request.  That may be the $1M stretch goal for all I know and they have been working on it since the beginning. Adam and Christopher have to be doing something while we playtest everything besides shipping things out.

 

*edit* For a bonus, Christopher to stop being cryptic every time he speaks and throwing smoke bombs.

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Arcanist_Lupus
2016-02-11 18:14 UTC
#128

I’ve seen a lot of crazy requests on this thread, but this is probably the least plausible.

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Trajector
2016-02-11 19:15 UTC
#129

Christopher loves those smoke bombs too much. Don’t take away his fun!

Edit: Swype-o. They are not “smoke books.”

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aawood
2016-02-11 21:04 UTC
#130

Can do.

As before, let H = Hero options (including variants), E = environments, V = standard villains and W = Vengeance villains. No change to these. Let's add another variable. Let A be the mean average number of additional promos per hero. (This wouldn't be useful if we were calculating the probability of any given team showing up, but for just figuring out how many options we have, it's perfect.)

With that in mind, the number of possibilities (including 3, 4 and 5 hero teams) would be… E * (((3H-3-2A) * (V + 3W-3)) + ((4H-6-3A) * (V + 4W-6)) + ((5H-10-4A) * (V + 5W-10)))

(Side note: for the purposes of this, The Sentinels team counts as one hero. Very glad that, officially, promos for them aren't allowed to be mixed and matched! f or the purposes of this, The Sentinels team counts as 1 hero with 15 variants (16 possible team makeups). )

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Yak_Guardian
2016-02-12 00:55 UTC
#131

Christopher's middle name is Cryptic.

 

Or if it's not, he'll never tell us.

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Ironic
2016-02-12 06:45 UTC
#132

I dunno, he does tend to deploy them in text form…

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Theta_Sigma
2016-02-13 12:50 UTC
#133

$1M stretch goal- everyone gets an official Christopher smoke bomb

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emcg575797
2016-02-16 22:59 UTC
#134

I would like a replacement Legacy deck with all of Legacy's art replaced with America's Newest Legacy. Then we can get art of America's Next Top Legacy showing off their freeze breath to mama Legacy in Next Evolution. It just feels weird playing young legacy with the wrong person in the art work.

 

Failing that what about Omnitron-V the vengeance style deck...

 

I'll get my coat.

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Silverleaf
2016-02-16 23:24 UTC
#135

I have one of those already, but I will happily accept a second.

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Estelindis
2016-02-16 23:42 UTC
#136

When I play Young Legacy, I imagine that all the artwork with her dad in it depicts her fond and inspiring memories of him.  :slight_smile:

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Ironic
2016-02-17 07:26 UTC
#137

I keep meaning to make some really good scans of all Beacon's Tactics art, to make a bunch of variant cards.

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BlueHairedMeerkat
2016-02-17 12:53 UTC
#138

Ditto for Greatest Legacy, F6 Bunker, WWII Bunker, Ivana Luminary… Actually, if we're being unreasonable, let's just have this done for all the promos :smiley: And if we're doing that, might as well tweak the decks a little…

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emcg575797
2016-02-17 15:53 UTC
#139

And how many of his cards are Legacy beating people up? If those are the fond memories… Does anyone have the phone number for Megopolis child services?

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Powerhound_2000
2016-02-17 15:58 UTC
#140

My unreasonable request:

Finally convince players that just because you don't understand X hero doesn't mean that hero is weak or needs fixing.

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emcg575797
2016-02-17 16:03 UTC
#141

 

We are going to need a bigger box. And our own personal Haka to carry it around.

 

I don't have an issue with the other promos, just this one. Mind you, when playing the video game Newest Legacy is my default Legacy, I like the pure damage power better than galvanise. I think two +1 damage boosts is slightly cheating, except when playing Plague Rat and then I avoid them like a plague of rats.

EM
emcg575797
2016-02-17 16:05 UTC
#142

Seconded. If only I can figure out how to play Fanatic without thinking I'm about to die by the next turn.

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pwatson1974
2016-02-17 16:09 UTC
#143

That is how you play Fanatic. :slight_smile:

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Silverleaf
2016-02-17 16:48 UTC
#144

Playing Fanatic is like being in a game with Ronway.

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Ironic
2016-02-17 16:53 UTC
#145

Cool.

 

Mine is to finally convince players that some heroes actually are stronger and weaker than others, and their mechanics did not spring perfect from the eye of Atman.  In other words, to get the community to accept I can (1) understand Absolute Zero, (2) have him among my favorite heroes when he actually works, and (3) be a little wistful that he was designed early on and some deep-seated problems with how his deck plays, which might not have been the case if he were being made from scratch today, with the technical acumen behind other combo-based self-damage characters such as Setback.

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Trajector
2016-02-17 18:15 UTC
#146

I think you accidentally made THE BEST UNREASONABLE REQUEST IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD.

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Silverleaf
2016-02-17 18:28 UTC
#147

I need a kitten dressed as a cowboy!

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Chrono
2016-02-17 18:34 UTC
#148

+1

And Wraith to set up the games for us in advance and keep track of the Villains and Environments.

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Ironic
2016-02-17 18:46 UTC
#149

Actually, I might change mine to that.

 

It would be ADORABLE.

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Silverleaf
2016-02-17 19:01 UTC
#150

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Ironic
2016-02-17 19:27 UTC
#151

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Trajector
2016-02-17 20:34 UTC
#152

She already does! You just don’t notice her. smoke bomb

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Estelindis
2016-02-17 22:00 UTC
#153

I don't mean general fond memories of their lives together, I mean memories of him kicking ass and being a hero, which is undeniably a huge part of his character and not something she'd be unaware of.  My understanding is that he's given her tons of hero training, and we know that they fought side by side at least sometimes (e.g. they were both severely injured in the fight against Iron Legacy).  So I imagine that, when she becomes Legacy in her own right, when she's kicking ass or protecting innocents, she is reminded of seeing him do those things before her.  I mean, when you lose someone really close to you, so many things they used to do remind you of them.  But, like I said, that is just the way I see it.  I didn't mention it to in any way invalidate some people wanting decks with her art, but to give my perspective on why the deck works perfectly with her dad's art, even when thinking of it as her deck.

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emcg575797
2016-02-18 13:00 UTC
#154

Estelindis,

I think your perspective is valid, and probably the best way of thinking about the deck. I am making an unreasonable request, and failing miserably at trying to be funny.

EM
emcg575797
2016-02-18 13:03 UTC
#155

 

Nothing accidental about it :wink: My arms still hurt after taking my two full boxes to my game group last night. I shudder to think how heavy it is going to be after OblivAeon.

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Kadrin
2016-02-18 13:29 UTC
#156

Aminia gets better and becomes a hero and has three different hero promos and two different decks and everyone is happy and not sad any more.

...I feel sorry for Aminia sometimes, even when she's brutally beating me into the ground (often).

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Matchstickman
2016-02-18 13:32 UTC
#157

My entirely reasonable demand is that the playtesters all be kidnapped and secluded in the luxurious >G hotel/bunker until all playtesting is done.

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Yak_Guardian
2016-02-18 13:53 UTC
#158

I've got the decks I use for playtesting with me… now where are those darn kidnappers?

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Silverleaf
2016-02-18 14:12 UTC
#159

I can't playtest without my rabbits.

Or my garden.

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Estelindis
2016-02-18 14:21 UTC
#160

I'm sorry, I didn't realise it was a joke.  I'm sure it would have come across that way in person.  Tone can be difficult to convey via this medium.  :)  But yeah, this is the thread for unreasonable requests.  If you're going to make some, here is the place to do it!

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Rabit
2016-02-18 14:48 UTC
#161

And this is why I use emoticons/emoji! :sunglasses:

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VisforYoshi
2016-02-18 15:50 UTC
#162

I want reprints of every single card in the game, where Guise is photoshopped into all of the card art

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Powerhound_2000
2016-02-18 15:52 UTC
#163

seconded!!!

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Rath
2016-02-18 16:38 UTC
#164

FTFY

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PowerSerg
2016-02-18 17:28 UTC
#165

Idk if this is totally unreasonable or not but I would adore if some decks got new cards so what like if I played with All New Legecy I could have her on some of the card art XD.  Really doubt that would happen but it be awesome. 

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Alex
2016-02-19 15:09 UTC
#166

I demand everyone in the world EXCEPT the playtesters be imprisoned, so we have the whole Earth to ourselves and can do as much playtesting as we want while our other obligations are put on hold. Also, we can establish a benevolent meritocracy based around game design prowess

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dpt
2016-02-19 15:18 UTC
#167

Pretty sure that that would end up with a dictatorship of Christopher. In any case, I would end up scrubbing the floors.

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VisforYoshi
2016-02-19 15:48 UTC
#168

I want Unity to get a bunch of GtG and Hadelabra bots added to her deck. And Christopher Bot needs to be incredibly OP

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ViolentSilence
2016-02-19 16:10 UTC
#169

All cards to be fully animated on youtube!

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Pydro
2016-02-21 12:40 UTC
#170

When Christopher reads the names, I want it to be animated (sorry Adam) and be like when the Animaniacs would sing songs with a lot of names.

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LeperKhan
2016-02-21 18:56 UTC
#171

No way. All cards to be fully animated ON EACH CARD!

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riff.freelance
2016-02-21 23:36 UTC
#172

If it wasn't for the Foil Hero Collection this might almost be a reasonable request. Variant Heroes, for eveybody! Every hero to have 3 variants at the end. This is my unreasonable request.